The Church is STILL Under Condemnation... and How to Get Out Of It!

Summary

The transcript of a thought-provoking discussion on the role of the Book of Mormon within the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is presented. The speakers delve into the perceived secondary purpose of the Book of Mormon, which they argue is to serve as a warning about societal collapse and the influence of secret combinations, or conspiracies, that have historically led to the downfall of civilizations. They emphasize the importance of not only recognizing the teachings about Jesus Christ but also heeding the warnings against pride, iniquity, and the dangers of complacency within the church. The conversation touches on modern societal issues such as the Federal Reserve, the military-industrial complex, and big pharma as potential manifestations of these secret combinations. The speakers also discuss the concept of the 'word of wisdom' in the context of resisting the corrupting influences of the last days and the need for individuals to actively expose and counteract these hidden forces of darkness. They conclude by highlighting the responsibility of church members to not only believe but also to act in accordance with the Book of Mormon's teachings, thereby lifting the condemnation they feel the church currently faces.

Takeaways

• 📜 The Book of Mormon serves a secondary purpose of warning against societal collapse and the influence of secret combinations, which is often overlooked by the church and its members.
• 💡 Members of the church are encouraged to not only believe in the teachings of the Book of Mormon but also to act consistently with them, bringing forth good works.
• 🕯️ The condemnation mentioned in Doctrine and Covenants section 84 can be lifted by repentance and remembering the New Covenant, which includes the Book of Mormon and the former commandments.
• ⚖️ The Word of Wisdom, as found in Doctrine and Covenants section 89, is not just about dietary laws but also serves as a warning against the evils and conspiracies of the last days.
• 🌟 The primary purpose of the Book of Mormon is to testify of Jesus Christ, while its secondary purpose is to serve as a warning manual against the deceptions and conspiracies that lead to societal downfall.
• 🔍 The church and its members are called to be vigilant and expose the hidden things of darkness, which includes being aware of and counteracting the influence of secret combinations.
• 🚨 There is a moral imperative to expose and counteract the influence of secret combinations, as emphasized by Joseph Smith in the Doctrine and Covenants.
• 🏛️ The modern church is criticized for not taking seriously enough the warnings and commandments given by God, particularly concerning the exposure and avoidance of secret combinations.
• 🌿 The story of the Nephites and Lamanites in the Book of Mormon provides examples of both failure and success in dealing with the influence of secret combinations.
• 📚 The book 'True Conspiracies' by Connor Boyak is endorsed as being relevant to the discussion of the importance of recognizing and countering secret combinations in society.

Q & A

What is the primary purpose of the Book of Mormon according to the speaker?

The primary purpose of the Book of Mormon, as mentioned in the script, is to testify of Jesus Christ. It serves as another testament of Christ and emphasizes His teachings and visit to the Americas as detailed in the third book of Nephi.

What does the speaker perceive as the secondary purpose of the Book of Mormon?

The speaker perceives the secondary purpose of the Book of Mormon to be a warning about the collapse of societies in the past, such as the Jaredites and Nephites, and the influence of secret combinations and corruption that led to their downfall.

What does the speaker suggest is the current state of the church regarding the Book of Mormon?

The speaker suggests that the church, as an institution, and individuals within it are not taking the warnings of the Book of Mormon seriously enough. They believe the church is treating lightly the 'warning manual' aspect of the Book of Mormon and is under condemnation for this.

What is the reference to 'secret combinations' in the context of the discussion?

The term 'secret combinations' refers to the corrupt and conspiring groups or societies that have historically led to the downfall of civilizations, as described in the Book of Mormon. The speaker argues that recognizing and countering these secret combinations is a crucial part of the church's role.

What does the speaker believe is one of the key issues contributing to the church being 'under condemnation'?

The speaker believes that one of the key issues is the church's failure to recognize and act upon the warnings in the Book of Mormon about secret combinations and societal corruption. This inaction and lack of awareness are seen as contributing to the church's state of condemnation.

How does the speaker connect the idea of 'wearing out our lives' with the church's mission?

The speaker interprets 'wearing out our lives' as a call to actively expose and confront the hidden things of darkness, which includes the secret combinations and societal corruptions. This involves being proactive in spreading truth and light, rather than passively accepting the status quo.

What does the speaker suggest is the role of individuals in the church regarding the 'hidden things of darkness'?

The speaker suggests that individuals in the church have a moral imperative to become their own investigative reporters, exposing the hidden things of darkness. This includes being aware of and counteracting the influence of secret combinations and societal corruption.

What is the significance of the Doctrine and Covenants section 123 in the context of the discussion?

Doctrine and Covenants section 123 is significant as it contains Joseph Smith's teachings about the importance of revealing the oppression and problems of society to the world. It is seen as a modern revelation that supports the idea that members of the church should be advocates for truth and light.

How does the speaker view the role of the Book of Mormon in the context of societal warnings?

The speaker views the Book of Mormon as a critical tool for societal warnings, serving as a manual to alert believers about the dangers of secret combinations and societal corruption. It is seen as a guide on how to recognize and counteract these dangers.

What is the speaker's perspective on the importance of the 'word of wisdom' in relation to the 'secret combinations'?

The speaker suggests that the 'word of wisdom', while commonly associated with health practices, also contains warnings about conspiring men and their designs in the last days. This is linked to the concept of secret combinations, indicating a broader interpretation of the 'word of wisdom'.

What historical example does the speaker provide to illustrate a society that successfully countered secret combinations?

The speaker refers to the example in the Book of Mormon where the Lamanites proactively hunted and preached against the band of robbers (Gadianton robbers), leading to their destruction. This is contrasted with the Nephites, who were seduced by the robbers and failed to maintain their righteousness.