Bassem Youssef on Palestine: The West is terrified of Israel
Summary
TLDRIn this thought-provoking conversation, the guest shares his journey from being a heart surgeon to a political satire host and eventually a stand-up comedian. He discusses the challenges of performing comedy in a second language and the cultural differences in humor. The discussion delves into the complexities of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, highlighting the role of media, politics, and the West's support for Israel. The guest emphasizes the importance of accountability and the need for a more nuanced understanding of the situation, while also expressing his frustration with the lack of balanced reporting and the dehumanization of Palestinians.
Takeaways
- 🌍 The interviewee, a former heart surgeon turned comedian, discusses the complexities of performing stand-up comedy in a second language and the cultural differences in humor.
- 🤔 The conversation highlights the challenges of speaking out against Israel in the Western media, with the interviewee sharing personal experiences of pushback and career impact.
- 🗣️ The interviewee criticizes the media narrative surrounding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, arguing that there is a lack of accountability and a double standard in how the story is covered.
- 🚫 The discussion points out the apparent disconnect between what is happening on the ground and the discourse in the political and media spheres, which can lead to public frustration and political danger.
- 🤬 The interviewee expresses frustration with the Western support for Israel, arguing that it sends a message that power and weapons can lead to applause, even in the face of human rights violations.
- 📺 The conversation touches on the role of the media in shaping public opinion, with the interviewee accusing some outlets of acting as mouthpieces for political or foreign interests.
- 🔥 The interviewee calls out the lack of journalistic integrity in coverage of the conflict, citing examples of unverified stories and the repetition of allegations without fact-checking.
- 🌟 Despite the challenges, the interviewee emphasizes the importance of speaking out and using platforms like comedy to raise awareness and provoke thought.
- 🎭 The interviewee's upcoming special is described as a personal story that transcends cultural boundaries, aiming to bring people together through laughter and shared experiences.
- 💭 The discussion raises questions about the influence of religious beliefs on political decisions and the potential consequences of apocalyptic ideologies in the hands of those with power.
- 🌐 The interviewee reflects on the power dynamics in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, arguing that the asymmetry in military strength and international support creates an uneven playing field.
Q & A
What was the main reason behind the guest's transition from being a heart surgeon to a comedian?
-The guest transitioned from being a heart surgeon to a comedian after 19 years of medical school and working as a surgeon due to the events of the Arab Spring. They left their medical profession during the Arab Spring and started their own political satire show, similar to The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, which eventually led them to comedy.
How did the guest end up in America and start a new career in stand-up comedy?
-The guest had to escape their home country due to trouble arising from their political satire show. They went to America and at the age of 45, started a new career in stand-up comedy, performing in their second language, English.
What challenges did the guest face when performing comedy in a second language?
-The guest faced challenges such as not having a foundational understanding of the language, the need for extensive studying, imitating, rehearsing, and pretending to master the language. They also had to quickly acquire the unique rhythm, music, and delivery style of English comedy, as they did not have the luxury of time to practice for years.
How does the guest feel about the current media narrative surrounding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?
-The guest feels that the media narrative is biased and one-sided, with lies and justifications for the actions of one party being blatantly obvious. They believe that the Western media is desensitized to the violence and atrocities committed, and they criticize the lack of accountability and consequences for Israel's actions.
What was the guest's experience like when they first spoke with Piers Morgan regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?
-The guest initially declined the offer to speak with Piers Morgan but eventually agreed. They felt that the media narrative was skewed and decided to participate to provide a counter viewpoint. Their appearance went viral, highlighting the lack of representation of their perspective in mainstream media.
What is the guest's opinion on the use of the term 'terrorism' in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?
-The guest criticizes the use of the term 'terrorism' as it is often used pejoratively to describe enemies rather than based on a fair assessment of actions. They argue that the term loses its meaning when applied inconsistently, and that the power dynamics between the involved parties must be considered.
How does the guest view the role of Western support in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?
-The guest believes that Western support, particularly from the United States, enables Israel to act without consequence. They argue that this support sends a dangerous message that power and weapons can lead to impunity for actions that would otherwise be condemned.
What is the guest's stance on the current situation in Gaza and the West Bank?
-The guest is deeply critical of the situation, describing it as a humanitarian crisis and a human rights violation. They mention specific instances of violence and repression, such as the bombing of hospitals and the detention of Palestinians, and express frustration at the lack of international response.
How does the guest feel about the portrayal of Palestinians in the media?
-The guest feels that Palestinians are dehumanized and treated as lesser humans in the media. They argue that the media often ignores or downplays the suffering of Palestinians, contributing to a climate of desensitization and acceptance of injustice.
What is the guest's perspective on the concept of 'moral army' as described by the Israeli Army?
-The guest is highly critical of this concept, viewing it as a propaganda tool used to justify military actions and violence. They mock the idea of an army that claims to be moral while causing civilian casualties and violating international law.
What does the guest suggest is the impact of the current conflict on future generations?
-The guest suggests that the lack of accountability and the normalization of violence will have a detrimental impact on future generations, teaching them that power and support from influential countries can lead to impunity, regardless of actions.
Outlines
🗣️ Critique on Media Narratives and Western Support
The speaker expresses frustration with the media's portrayal of the Israel-Palestine conflict, highlighting the lack of accountability and the normalization of violence. They criticize the Western world's support for Israel, arguing that this enables human rights violations to go unpunished. The speaker also discusses the role of the media in shaping public opinion and the importance of challenging the status quo.
🌍 The Role of Comedy in Politics and Society
The speaker, a former heart surgeon turned comedian, discusses the challenges and rewards of performing comedy in a second language and the unique opportunities it presents for connecting with diverse audiences. They also delve into the power of humor to shed light on serious issues, such as political corruption and social injustice, and to spark dialogue and change.
🏛️ The Impact of Political Rhetoric on Public Perception
The speaker reflects on the dehumanization of Palestinians and the impact of political rhetoric on public perception. They argue that the portrayal of Palestinians as lesser beings has led to a desensitization to their suffering. The speaker also discusses the role of the media in perpetuating these narratives and the need for a more balanced and empathetic approach to reporting on the conflict.
🤔 The Complexity of Defining Terrorism
The speaker questions the usefulness of the term 'terrorism' in the context of the Israel-Palestine conflict, highlighting the asymmetry in power dynamics and the double standards applied to different acts of violence. They argue that the term is often used pejoratively and fails to acknowledge the historical and political complexities of the situation.
🕍 The Influence of Religious Fundamentalism on Politics
The speaker discusses the influence of religious fundamentalism on political decisions, particularly in relation to the Israel-Palestine conflict. They express concern about the role of extremist religious beliefs in shaping foreign policy, especially in the United States, and the potential for these beliefs to lead to dangerous outcomes, such as the promotion of conflict rather than peace.
🎭 The Intersection of Comedy and Social Commentary
The speaker, a comedian, shares their experiences of using humor to address serious social and political issues. They discuss the tension between making people laugh and raising awareness about important topics, such as the Israel-Palestine conflict. The speaker emphasizes the power of comedy to challenge narratives, provoke thought, and humanize complex issues.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Military Actions
💡Human Rights
💡Western World
💡Stand-up Comedy
💡Cultural Touchstones
💡Political Satire
💡Arab Spring
💡Desensitization
💡Media Narrative
💡Moral Corruption
Highlights
The speaker discusses the complexity of performing comedy in a second language and the unique challenges it presents.
The interviewee shares their personal journey from being a heart surgeon to a political satire show host, and then to a stand-up comedian in their second language, English.
The conversation delves into the differences in humor and cultural touchstones between American and British audiences.
The speaker highlights the intense challenge of performing comedy in English with an American style in England, and then in various European countries with diverse cultural backgrounds.
The interviewee talks about their experience of doing stand-up comedy in Arabic and the complexities of dealing with different Arabic dialects and cultural references.
The speaker discusses the role of comedy in politics and the importance of presenting counter viewpoints in the media.
The conversation touches on the media narratives surrounding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the lack of accountability for Israel's actions.
The interviewee criticizes the Western media's portrayal of Israel as a moral and ethical military force, highlighting the absurdity of such claims.
The speaker expresses frustration over the normalization of violence and the desensitization of people to the suffering of Palestinians.
The interviewee discusses the asymmetry of power dynamics between Israel and Palestine and the implications of this on the conflict.
The conversation addresses the dehumanization of Palestinians and the lack of global outrage towards their plight.
The speaker challenges the use of the term 'terrorism' and its implications in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
The interviewee talks about the political and religious influences on American support for Israel, highlighting the role of Evangelical Christianity.
The conversation examines the disconnect between what is happening on the ground in conflicts like in Gaza and how it's reported in Western media.
The speaker reflects on the personal risks and potential career consequences of speaking out against Israel, especially in the American entertainment industry.
The interviewee emphasizes the importance of comedy in providing a platform for sharing uncomfortable truths and fostering understanding among diverse audiences.
Transcripts
If Today Israel decides to stop their
military actions and all right we'll
leave you we're good no more killing
people will applaud Netanyahu like good
it's good that you didn't kill more
people you don't understand you
understand that we have seen the biggest
human crime right unfold in front of
right for 6 months and Israel will walk
away from it no accountability there's
going to be no consequence for it
whatsoever as long as you have the power
the the weapons the support of the
Western World the support of America you
can do whatever you want and you will be
even applauded by stopping short at a
total Annihilation Israel has corrupted
the West morally for 100 years you
cannot come with a straight face
lecturing us about morality or about
human rights anymore B MF hello hi Joe
how are you you okay I'm great good um
for those not I thought this was Joe
Rogan I don't know I was Che oh I'm
sorry to disappoint they told me going
to be on podcast with Joe it's like Joe
ran just Bridge D yeah with with show
I'm not as yoked as Joe Rogan as well
unfortunately
I have got a full head of hair take that
H I hope it works for you I also have
less um problematic political opinions
yeah just about not quite I haven't got
the100 million Spotify deal just yet I
mean if anyone's if anyone's out there
considering it I mean we will take it
yeah has a full set of hair after all
yeah
exactly um how are you bass you okay I'm
I'm great I'm great good very glad to
have you here um for those not familiar
with your work why don't you tell us who
you are what you do how would you like
to introduce yourself uh very quickly I
I used to be a heart surgeon all my life
7 years of medical school yes I have I I
have I have to I have to brag about that
rightly so I have to brag I'm I used to
be a heart surgeon I used to be a heart
surgeon yeah and then after 19 years of
medical school and working as a uh a
surgeon I left all of that during the
wake of the Arab Spring I had my own
show uh political satire show kind of
like the Egyptian version of The Daily
Show with uh John Stewart
I was in Egypt for three and a half
years I had three seasons went into
trouble because got into trouble because
of my show had was arest interrogated
had to leave uh the military the
islamist hated me both so that means I'm
doing something right and then I had to
escape went to America and 5 years ago I
started a new career at the age of 45
doing standup comedy in my second
language in English and now I am having
a European tour in English starting with
London April 6 uh doing 16 cities 25
shows in 30 days it's impressive man I
mean that that that's that that's a good
intro yeah it is a good intro we we we
we're done we good yeah finish you've
done you've plugged the tour so we can
finish now much draw a line under
it so I mean we'll we'll talk about
comedy I particularly actually want to
talk about comedy in the context as well
of of kind of the politics of what's
happening at the moment but just a a
word on performing in a second
language uh at the beginning it was very
daunting still today because at the end
of the day you are not you don't have
that kind of foundation all of your life
with that language so you're not a
master of the language you think you are
but at least you try to act as if you
are uh but deep inside you know that is
it's not your language and
uh me coming from the background of
being a doctor being a nerd I had to
there's a lot of studying a lot of
imitating a lot of rehearsing a lot of
pretending to look like as if I'm I what
I'm
doing um and also comedy in a second
language is very interesting because
each language has its own own Rhythm own
music
own sense of delivery so and this is
something you cannot teach you you just
have to acquire it and I had to do
that very quickly in order to because I
was already starting late so I don't I
didn't have the luxury of time and doing
it for years and years and years and and
and practicing with it so yeah it it is
it's quite quite Tusk I mean even
between Americans and and British people
right the sense of humor is completely
different the cultural Touchstone is
completely different Absolut the the
nature of the comedy is completely
different right so imagine I'm doing a
standup comedy with my second language
in in English while actually being in
America and then coming getting that set
up with in in Europe talking to a people
that might not even be British but might
be British from other Origins so you see
how everything is not yeah set up
against you almost a fail I'm sure not
going to but it's intense yes yes it's
very intense I'm I'm I'm doing a comedy
in a language that's not mine with a
second language American style in
England and many of the people who come
to my show are not from British origin
but from somewhere else in the word it
is and not just I mean England is
actually the the the easiest part
because at least they speak English but
if you go into people and many of the
people who come to my shows are
immigrants imagine going to Sweden yeah
or to Denmark or to Germany
English there is a third
language so that is quite that's quite
challenging have you tried to scan it
back the other way yet and and do comedy
cuz I imagine even if you were trying to
the jokes you couldn't just translate
them right the sense of humor would be
completely different right no you're WR
in English I started doing an Arab
stand-up comedy a year ago after the
English and tell I tell you what the
English is much more easier for me stop
it yeah really because when you speak to
when you do English is a unifying
language believe it or not it's a
universal language when you talk about
the Immigrant experience people that
come to the show they can relate to you
in Arabic I'm speaking to people from
Arabic dialect Arabic D background you
just talked about like the British humor
and the American humor no let's talk
about the Moroccan dialect and the Saudi
dialect or the Egyptian dialect that has
nothing to do with it's totally
different so you're going out and even
the tool of communication which is the
language is quite variable I'm not
talking about the difference between uh
a New York accent and an Alabama accent
I'm talking about like the difference
between someone who's living in in
Oklahoma and someone who living in the
Deep parts of Scotland or Wales totally
different that is how V variable and how
diversity Arab dialects are it's not
just a case of accent it's vocabulary
it's almost references uh experiences
all of that has to be taken into account
so Arabic is actually much more
difficult for me okay well we're going
to talk about the role of Comedy I think
and particularly actually as well the
role of Comedy within politics over the
course of this interview one of the
things that I well I'll be honest sort
of I think for lots of British people
you sort of first came onto their radar
culturally as a result of an interview
you did with Pierce Morgan right yes um
in the wake of October 7th yeah so can
you talk to me about why you wanted to
do that interview I mean it was sort of
like I said 10 days after October 7th
happens was it to do with sort of media
narratives put presenting a counter sort
of viewpoint why was it that you wanted
to go and and speak to P well I didn't
want to I was actually offered to come
on to PE Morgan show five days before
and I said no twice and for the third
time I said yes and then they canceled
on me a couple of times because they
were having other people
going but it it actually I should have
been on that show a week before and I
couldn't because I didn't know what to
say because the media narrative was set
up in a way that like you're going to be
burned if you come and talk about
anything other than the Israeli point of
view but then 10 days in I saw the
narrative and I saw there like the lies
were so obvious and being like looking
at things from the outside it's like
something was not checking out something
is not working and I and I know a little
bit of research and I see the lies and
and the stuff that they were using in
order to justify killing so many people
were just crazy like oh Israel is the
only military in the world that warns
civilians before they bomb us like what
kind of excuses that you know the same
thing that they say about the Israeli
Army the Israeli Army is the most uh
moral army in the world because they are
vegan Army which is which is in it's
like you can write a whole like routine
about that they use degradable bullets
reusable body bags yeah nice you know
sustainable sustainable missiles you
know it's just it's like what we should
celebrate that
yeah yeah go Israel just what the hell
is this what this is farce this is far
and just like people are like like the
people in the western media platform are
like nodding yes yes yes but then they
they bring in like an Arab do youas are
you serious it's just like and I saw all
of this and I said like wait wait wait a
minute you're just talking about like
the killing of Gaza and that's normal
what about the West Bank where there's
no Hamas and I talk about this in many
interviews I talk about the banality of
evil how people are just expecting
accepting so many things take it as
normal I mean I I when I was on that
interview like with pce Morgan we didn't
even hit the
3,000 death Mark at the time now we're
33,000 we're just and and we people have
been so desensitized and they like one
when when I was there we're talking
about who bombed the hospital is it
Israel or is this the missfire by a
Hamas rocket since then Israel bombed 36
hospitals and there is nothing it is
like fine and because there's always a
justification there is a Hamas uh bay
underneath the hospital do you have a
proof yes here's a CGI video that's it
and and we have to take Israel account
for anything that we don't speak it's
just the fact that the Western media
that has lectured us for years about
transparency and journalistic integrity
they just like oh yeah yeah that makes
sense yeah yeah yeah we're going to act
stupid and let it go it's just like very
stupid so maybe even within the first 10
days it was enough for me to say wait a
minute that that's stupid this is very
stupid how how are you people like
accepting that so I just went there I
said like how many people should we kill
as many as you can I just like I went
with everything that they said and it
just people say wait a minute that's
stupid how are you accepting this oh the
thing that was the thing that's very
striking for me at the moment is the
fact that International journalists are
not allowed into Gaza right now which is
you know a revealing fact right if if
you don't want it's been for that for
six months and even the only one who's
there who's Al jazer has been uh labeled
labeled by Israel as a terrorist
terrorist organization and we have okay
okay yes yes master yes yes of course
yes whatever you say whatever you say
talk we'll talk about that in a minute
so stupid why why are is the Muslim
media so emasculated when it comes to
Israel yeah why do they do where where
their blls go where they like the whole
like their fiery opening statements
about Ria and Ukraine but when it comes
to Israel oh no so okay of course yes
there are terrorist there are collateral
damage it's really it's really
interesting to me for two reasons right
the first because I think I saw you
talking about this another time and you
sort of said that really the talking
points you went on there you didn't even
think that you were sort of did like an
incredible performance right the talking
points the things you were talking about
actually were the things that a lot of
people people say to each other right
but it's just not represented in the
western media so you you didn't feel
like it was like some crazy thing you
done and then obviously it does like 22
million views or whatever but that
contrast with Ukraine I think is
revealing right because I think either
our morality is universal and you can
take issue with military aggression
regardless of who the victims of it are
MH or your morality isn't Universal yeah
listen I mean the thing is the the the
quiet part that should be said out loud
people don't care about Palestinians and
they look at them as lesser human beings
forget Gaza forget Hamas forget the
proportionate response in the West Bank
since 7th of October 495 people were
killed 100 of them were children in the
West Bank and that is normal because we
have been so desensitized by the 33,000
people who cares about 100 people dead
you see how the banality of evil how
people just get used to it and it
becomes like a regular thing people talk
about but it's the hostage the hostage
they what 70 hostages 30 hostages 130 I
think 130 hostages well in Israeli
prisons there are 5,000 Palestinians
half of them are not even accused of
anything that's 5,000 hostages 5,000 but
it's okay it's normal people just accept
it and go on nobody talks about them
because these are host when you go in
and you kidnap people from other people
homes and you put it in your prisons
that's not a prisoner that's a hostage
when you displace like a more than 1200
people from their homes on daily basis
that that that that is not normal but
yet people just accept it and forget
about it the fact that Palestinians
Farmers cannot actually get any part of
the land to Agri to for agriculture
outside of area sea which is the most
fertile part of the West Bank and
Palestinians cannot have a land there
can you imagine they have to go on and
you know you can't even dig for Wells
for you can't dig for for in West Bank
I'm not talking about Gaza because Gaza
is evil it's Kamas you know but like
there like in the west back you can't
even dig a well you can't even increase
the depth of your well the the the the
is an Israeli sat have five times the
amount of water per capita than in a
Palestinian and people just have to live
about with that it's like yeah it's
normal it's okay it's just like it it's
like the it's the the normaly and the
people just getting desensitized for
things like if it Happ if a 100 children
died in 6 month anywhere in the world
people will be like up in arms but the
Palestinians it doesn't matter because
they are animals so if you treat people
like animals I say this everywhere if
you treat people like animals and they
refold against you like animals why are
you
surprised what do you think is behind
that dehumanization the word you use was
desensitization right yeah do you think
it's something deliberate whether that's
via the media via propaganda do you
think I don't know but it's there I
don't know if it's design because like
when you go it's by Design suddenly
people I'm going to be put in the in the
category of a conspiracy theorist I
don't mean like that but like but I
don't know what it is but like
the atrocity was happened to
Palestinians for years had just like
been like swept swept under the rug and
nobody cares until and then when there's
like a more than heavier than usual
attack suddenly the the the W oh no
Israel that's too much come on it's like
but they were terrorists there were
people in the hospital and we had to go
in and kill them okay okay okay okay all
right you know like remember I mean you
have remember this scene when like uh
Israeli forces like were were were
dressed as doctors and nurses and went
into a hospital in the West Bank and
killed three people why it's like
because they are
terrorists yeah okay okay and you know
like this is this is an example how
Israel defines terrorism
2010 there's a woman named z and her
husband were killed and then a few years
later she published a a Facebook post
it's like may God unite Us in heaven and
because of that post she was accused of
being a terrorist and she was put for
under detention in in a in a prison for
8 months This Is How They Define who's a
terrorist you know they they kill you in
workers today seven people died from the
International Center kitchen first okay
it's Kamas it's like oh it's us but oops
mistakes happen well it's us what he can
you do collateral damage you see so it
doesn't the whole idea that they waste
so much time trying to waste this time
in this
like mental exercises that doesn't need
anywhere and even when they say okay you
kill him
yeah but don't Israel have the right to
defend itself you see how this circle
the conversation gets you get you go
don't get anywhere with them but there's
no historical context right because I
feel I feel like there's essentially a
system of provocation provocation
provocation until eventually the point
you made right which is that essentially
you get a reaction either from the mass
or from from other groups whoever it is
yeah and as a result of which when we
discuss and talk about the recent
example is just well what about October
7th right but that kind of unitary
approach to the history of it you dude
it of the of the context of Decades of
whether it's oppression violence
terrorism from both sides enacting on
each other no don't say from both sides
okay because this is unfair you cannot
you cannot
compare an Arsenal that is armed to the
teeth you know one of it's a nuclear
it's a nuclear power and you just like a
few militants you cannot just it's it's
it doesn't work it does doesn't work
especially like here's the thing Israel
wants you to think that everything
started of October 7th as if there was a
ceasefire in October 6th actually two
weeks before October 7th Israel did like
three air strikes in Gaza just regular
normal and before October 7th there were
234 Palestinians were killed 76 of them
with children in the West Bank that's
normal the idea of like they keep
pushing you and pushing you and pushing
you so if you throw rocks they break
your limbs if you take up armed
resistance you're terrorist if you sit
put in your home they will come in and
use settlers to take to kick you out
like they will take your home and your
land away so there's no point of you
doing anything if you are not even
living in Palestine and you choose to
boycott
Israeli uh Goods you are not going to be
able to work with 37 state federal uh
States uh governments because they have
rules against BDS which is weird that
like South Dakota have to have a rule to
defend
Israel Commerce it is just doesn't make
any sense anymore it just doesn't make
any sense and I don't know the whole
idea about like trying to make like oh
but they did this and they did this no
they this is all a reaction they keep
pushing you as a matter of fact I don't
even know how come the 7 million
Palestinians who live inside Israel have
not all joined Hamas there is a very
famous interview by ihud Barak in 2014
when gon leevi he a repor in Hearts he
asked him
if you were born Palestinian what would
you do you know what B says like I will
join a terrorist group to fight for my
country and you have all of this in
front of all about Kamas Kamas Kamas you
have like Netanyahu admitting on tape
that he was supporting Hamas and he was
like letting money flow to them it's
just it's just it is right in front of
you and they have the audacity to deny
it and so like they look at your face
like I don't
care when I say both sides I'm not
drawing an equivalence between the
actions from either side I think it's
clear cly the power D Dynamic is
asymmetrical right you know you have on
the one hand un occupied people and on
the other you have one of the most
highgrade militaries of anywhere in the
world what I mean the longest occupation
in the mod modern history what I mean to
say when I say both sides is that that
that violence is exchanged yes the scale
of it is different yeah but there is
certainly still violence that heads from
the Palestinian direction towards the
Israeli one that's what I was referring
to when I said I mean if you put me like
against the wall what what what do you
expect me to do I mean killing me behind
your walls you're killing me with your
drones behind your screens you're
sitting comfortably do you use me as a a
video games you know an x square and a
circle boom and then you're you're just
like happy that I am in my confined uh
on behind confined walls and and then at
a certain point when the walls are
breached you are going to get face to
face with what you have created right
because it's so easy it's like I because
yes like a a Palestinian taking a knife
and going and kill you that's terrorism
but if I fly and then 64 4,000 $64
million F16 and iom like a a missile and
killing like annihilating a whole a
whole square a whole like block a that's
not terrorism that's War I just boom
because it's I there's there's comfort
in being remotely removed of killing of
all of these people so you're just like
sitting there in your comfortable spaces
and pushing buttons and killing of all
of these people and when somebody comes
in and push your bullet back it's like
oh terrorism do you think terrorism is a
useful term I don't know what you call
it I mean it doesn't here's the thing we
waste our time in in in defining things
I was in France 24 the other day and
they were asking me what do you think is
this what Israel is like doing is
genocide because there was no genocide
in front of October six like what who
cares really who cares who cares about
the definition of genocide and i' say it
it's like how about like other Wars like
too much
killing a lot of
murders extreme termination of life yeah
is that better yeah is that better does
the the word genocide bother you that
bad and then you know what after you go
in and you prove it
genocide well so what Israel has the
right to defend
itself it it it's not ending the thing
is you think you're going to win a
conversation or an argument it doesn't
matter because at the end of the day
they it's all a waste of time in order
to do what remember how like for 2
months they were asking what's the
proportion response which is the most
stupid question ever does Israel have
the right to defend itself well you know
what I think that Israel has the right
to go [ __ ] itself seriously I mean
because this is like [ __ ]
up so when I asked that question I'm not
trying to I'm not sort of trying to get
into abstract linguistic conversations I
think it's useful because it
demonstrates that quite often we just
use terrorists as a as an insult right
we use it as a pejorative term to
describe our enemies rather than because
the point you made right what is the
difference if you drop a bomb on a
school from a plane you kill innocent
people mhm and the difference between
someone who walks into a building with a
bomb strap to them and blows it up and
kills and people is there a material
difference between those two things yeah
because one of them is done by the
chosen people we are the chosen people
we are the chosen people God chose and
you know what really pisses me off about
the Christians who repeat that [ __ ]
they are the chosen people and I said
like if you think they're the chosen
people why don't you join them why don't
you join why don't you become Jewish I
mean it's like wouldn't you feel
unchosen wouldn't you feel left out
they're the chosen people join them
and this the same Christians don't see
what they do in Christians when they go
to Jerusalem they get spit on kicked by
Jewish people who actually despises
Christians this whole [ __ ] about
like Jew
Christians je Christian judeo Christian
values there's nothing called Jud
Christian this actually was adapted in
the 20th century it was not meant to be
made by the founding fathers or anything
that was like made up very recently and
it was not part of American history and
was just like increase after the
Holocaust but it wasn't really part part
of our American culture and the fact
that they openly despises Christians and
they they they openly make fun of Christ
and make you have videos of rabbis
talking about the Virgin Mary as a [ __ ]
who have actually slept with someone
else and she made this whole idea about
like the Son of God so she wouldn't be
stoned or killed by the Jewish people
they talk about that openly but then a
lot of Christians go in and talk about
Islam and how a harmful religion we are
and they don't they really ignore what
the Jews when with the extreme Jewish
people in Israel say about them it it
and maybe the one thing the gold the the
silver lining of all of this like maybe
now are people are are are are talking
about this is it not does it not full
foul of the same problem though right
that in the same way that in the west we
kind of particularly in the media and
absolutely our politicians actually they
try to characterize Islam as being
defined by its most extreme proponents
it's fundamentalists which I think is
wrong like I I I I dispute that to the
strongest level similarly to argue that
extreme
rabbis the most I don't know um extreme
Orthodox individuals their version of
Judaism is not the Judaism Judaism of
for example sort of Western liberal Jews
and I don't know if it's fair to sort of
characterize that entire faith based on
absolutely I agree with you but isn't it
weird that the same extreme rabbis are
the head rabbis of the Israeli Army is
it is isn't it like weird that like
their words is being repeated by the
Prime Minister themselves when the Prime
Minister talk about the amalik when when
you talk about the amalik basically
you're giving permission to kill
everybody woman or child or anything
because they're the amalik they need to
be wiped out yeah so it's the same way
like you cannot uh judge the Arab word
or the Muslim word by some extreme
rhetoric said by the leaders of Isis
right but if the president of Egypt or
the king of Jordan or the king of Saudi
Arabia starting to repeat that rhetoric
that's problematic correct you don't the
whole idea about like we need to kill
the infidels and if the president of
Egypt started saying that that's
problematic now if the the prime
minister of not just that his the
members of his cabinet I mean we just
talked about the example about like
insulting Christians Ben gair he is the
Min he's the minister of the of of of of
um of National Security of Israel the
guy said like spitting of on Christians
is not a hate crime it's part of my
faith that is a minister M so I'm not
I'm not picking on EX because you can
pick on Extreme people on the internet
from the Muslim side from the Christian
side from the Jewish side but I'm
talking about people who are in position
of power yeah no I'm not just like
picking random people from the thing
because and also all of these people
that you might think it's Fringe or
controversial it is not there is a movie
that I highly recommend it's a
documentary there's a two-part it's on
YouTube it's called praying for
Armageddon I really I really urge
everybody especially Americans to watch
it because they're talking about how the
ideology of the Armageddon and the
second coming of Jesus has been a huge
part of American politics I mean the you
see the reporter asking people from the
from the Congress like Laura bobbert
which is like a rightwing like she say
she's from Colorado and she said uh he
he asked about the Rapture and the
second com he's like I believe that
there are two nations in this planet and
this world that were created to to honor
the glory of God they are the United
States of of America and Israel I'm
going to be uh uh I'm going to work for
both I'm going to be loyal for both and
then you have asking other people like
don't you think that this is the whole
thing about second coming of Jesus and
Rapture is Extreme say no I don't think
it's extreme when Jesus come I'll be
here waiting for you for him so and
here's the here's the here's the problem
you have American politicians supporting
Israel for that
religious promise of Apocalypse M and
they believe that they did that is going
to be like a seven years of tribulation
is going to be the end of war and and
when that happens the second Jesus will
come and on the other side there the the
Jews believe the same thing but the the
the the outcome is different because the
Christians believe that all Jews will
either be killed or converted and the
Jews believe that the one who coming is
not the the second coming of Jesus is
going to be the real Jesus the real
Messiah and everybody will be enslaved
by the Jews you understand how how
stupid you know how stupid it is and now
they're talking about now they're openly
talking about the red heers they brought
like five cows from Texas they paid
$500,000 to fly them from Texas that is
more than all the money that I've ever
spent on my life on plane ticket they
flew cows from Texas and now they are
going to turn 3 years old by the 10th of
April and they are going to have a
ceremony by killing them having a blood
sacrifice burning the bodies of the cows
and having Jewish people bath into the
water so they going to be be purified so
it's going to be a a way to go to like a
step to in order to build the Third
Temple over El which is you understand
the people who control the word are
religious Fanatics and I come from a
place that where I was told like your
religion is dangerous your religion is
apocalyptic no Islam is bad come join
our secular ranks and I come as like
what the hell is this you guys are even
crazier at least the people who talk
about and the end of days in Islam don't
have nuclear weapons like you at least
the people who are back home are just
like all that they have like maybe a
little like primitive bombs but you have
like the biggest nuclear Arsenal and
you're pushing for Armageddon right in
front of everybody and what what is this
you understand you understand my
confusion I came from the Middle East
secularism hey separation of of church
and state and then suddenly is like but
you are going to be killed because you
are on the wrong side of history and
Jesus is going to kill you it's like
what the hell you're preaching to the
converted man I'm I'm an atheist I'm but
you understand how crazy I do what do
you think the point of difference is
right in the states comp comparing the
States and Britain right I think in
America there's much more of a political
consensus particularly when it comes to
Israel right particularly when it comes
to Israel the things you've just
outlined and that Evangelical tradition
and in the UK whilst there is
particularly in the political class and
the media class um that alignment there
is I would say a more Divergent strand
of thought particularly within the
political left that is willing to be
critical of Israel in a way that the
American left perhaps isn't is that just
down to evangelicalism is there
something different happening
politically in America evangelis well
you know 80 80 million people in America
are evangelists that's quarter of the
population so that's a huge mass and you
know what is SC what is scary and crazy
about it is that the Bible that they
they follow is the scoffield
interpretation of the King James Bible
the scoffield interpretation was was
published last in the 19th century by a
university press uh University uh sorry
Oxford University press and it it has
footnotes that interprets the text in a
different way and it is quite
manipulated in order to kind of flip the
narrative towards Israel and there's a
very famous joke they say the Christian
Bible is read from left to right the
Hebrew Bible is read from right to left
the scoffield Bible is read from bottom
up because the notes the foot notes
controlled everything so that actually
be found a huge it resonates
with the evangelicals in the the South
Baptist Church and this is like a you
know people like you know Jerry fowell
John haggy John haggi he is the founder
of Christian United for Christ they have
a $7 billion budget to affect to
influence the candidates in the Congress
they John gagi gave $80 million from his
own not his own money because this his
congre people in his congregation to
Israel and he find all of this so that
so part of it is a religion huge part of
it is money M because many of the
Democrats are not even Evangelical but
they you have now Apac on their Twitter
account bragging about all of their
candidates that we have supported have
won their primaries said isn't that a
foreign
agent isn't that a foreign asan is that
what what is this yeah I mean remember
2016 when everybody said oh my God
Russia is interfering and tampering
cyber security it's stering and then you
have like you have AP just open it's
like yeah if if support Israel you're
going to win the election with our money
I like what what is and people just like
looking at they like okay that's fine I
like I was like am I in AAR is what I'm
what I'm seeing is madness you
understand and people are just like yeah
okay it's normal and whether in Britain
I mean I don't understand much of
British politics I cannot really
understand the effect nobody but like
there's one thing that happened in the
beginning of the war where Rishi sonak
Rishi sonak the Prime Minister when when
he went to Israel he stayed in in in in
the King David
Hotel the King David hotel which was
bombed by the stern gang a zus gang
killing 91 or 92 British soldiers and
and you know Israel doesn't do anything
by chance this is a humiliation and if I
was a British s like how come my prime
minister goes in and stay in that hotel
that we 92 British soldiers were killed
by Zionist uh
gangs and because of that
people like isak chamir and all of those
people weren't even allowed into London
because they were on the terrorist list
for many years until he became a prime
minister so he had diomatic immunity so
you look of all of this it's like why do
you accept that how do you accept all of
that I mean how do you how you how do
you live with that it's just as an
outsider I come and I say is this for
real I'm am I the only one seeing this
am I stupid or maybe I'm anti-semitic
and I don't know that's that's what I
was talking to you about like what
terrorism means right on the plaque
outside the King David Hotel it says
something like I'm I'm paraphrasing but
it's something like you know the brave
Freedom Fighters of the stern gang you
know took action against the British
military oh my God and it's like you
know and and Rishi sonak stayed in that
hotel well yeah and then in I hope
you're happy rishy I hope you're happy I
hope you're happy motherucker is it [ __ ]
is that the term I don't know um but
interestingly the the the the politics
here is kind of changed a little bit
like it's shifting in Britain I don't
know if you're if you're familiar with
it at all but you know particularly on
the left wing and the labor party we've
we've gone from October 7th happens and
you get the bizarre sight of Kama the
leader of the lab party basically saying
that Collective punishment is acceptable
and he used to be a human rights lawyer
right so he should he should know better
than that and gradually he's sort of
been pulled I think as a result of
electoral politics softening his stance
and now demanding a humanitarian Sea
Fire but for me I'm sort of looking at
it thinking well what's what's the point
of difference to what you said earlier
it's like okay how many people have to
die choose your number where is it that
you say okay enough is enough now we've
gone too far I'm changing my position
because once it started you I feel like
anyone with any grass basic grph of the
history knew what was going to happen it
was going to be a blood bath right it
was going to be a m but nobody even
imagined that would be that big but you
know what's really sad about it Joe
what's really said about it if today
Israel decides to stop their military
actions and say all right we'll leave
you we're good no more killing people
will upla Netanyahu like good it's good
that you didn't kill more people thank
you for not killing 60,000
thank you for stopping at 33 you see
there's not going to be even
accountability for Israel if they stop
they like okay okay good thank you so
much for listening to thank you for
giving people the the the the disabled
and the people who killed some food
thank you so much Israel you don't
understand you understand that we have
seen the biggest human crime right
unfold in front of R for 6 months and
Israel will walk away from it no
accountability there's going to be no
consequence for it whatsoever they even
they even getting more arms get getting
more Aid getting more money getting more
support of the western world even being
applauded for killing not so much
civilians see how you see it's just
people are just like are screamers like
Stop The Killing that is the minimum
that is the minimum that you can ask as
human beings and when it finally happens
whatever happens in the last six month
whether in the West Bank or the EAS of
Jerusalem or Gaza will just go
unpunished what kind of message are we
telling our
children
that as long as you have the power the
the weapons the support of the Western
World the support of America you can do
whatever you want and you will be even
applauded by stopping short at a total
Annihilation that is the message
basically we're telling to our children
what kind of what kind of values are you
sealing to the to today's
generation I think it's very it's it's
not going to end one for anybody no um
interesting phrase you use there right
which is Western support for Israel mhm
and quite often we hear here in the UK
well what does it matter if our
political position changes if we
withdraw our support for Israel what
difference will it make um as if that
kind of ignores the fact that we Grant
export licenses for weapons that go to
Israel and then get used in Gaza and I
kind of wonder what you make of those
arguments that International pressure
can't change the fact of what's
happening there why don't we withdraw
our support to Ukraine yeah if it
doesn't make any any difference
then it's just
it doesn't bear engaging and and the
fact that you have like an evil player
in the world just like violating all all
the international laws and getting away
with what kind of message are you giving
to the rest of the world how can you
have a moral uh standing if anybody else
commits war crimes if you're letting
this happen you can't I mean and the
thing is I I said it before I said
Israel has corrupted the West morally
for 100 years do you cannot come with a
straight face lecturing us about
morality or about human rights anymore
you can't you can't just go cry about do
you remember Charlie ABDO yeah 11 people
were killed terrible the world leaders
collected into the streets of Fran like
oh Charlie ABD and we I we Chang our
profile you sweet 11 people oh my God
30,000 people ah there collateral damage
and aable it's sad it's sad it's just
like and you walk you watch these like
TV anchors yeah there's so much civili
it's sad but it has to happen I mean
what other what what can we what can we
do not this
yeah this anything but this what else
can we do what else can we do it just
it's very frustrating to look at this
and just I I I mean it is it is comical
but it's painful okay let's talk about
that because you talk about frustration
you talked about how sad it is I agree
with both of those things I'm also
conscious of the fact that you've made
me laugh multiple times over the course
of this conversation which
and not in like a rude way like you're
being funny and no please do I'm a
comedian my ego feeds on you laughing
stroking your ego sorry you're so
amazing B please I'm full of
insecurities and I I need I need I have
delayed payment on my ego can you can
you tell me can you tell me more about
the tension between those two things
about sort of subject matter that
perhaps even some people would say you
shouldn't make jokes about that or we
shouldn't laugh about that it's so
serious it's so upsetting that there is
no humor there is no way to laugh in
there well sometimes it's very difficult
to but like I I didn't even attempt to
make any jokes what I did was just like
I was just like I was just like
repeating the talking points like
impersonating like oh sorry yeah yeah oh
please go ahead I kill I I I I was just
like in person I was just like speaking
my mind of how I I view these people and
it comes out comically because it is
nonsense yeah it's
nonsensical you know and and and the
thing is the you
I I said before you they make you get so
used to Cruelty you don't even know how
to keep up like I I'll give you an
example remember how Donald Trump is was
so difficult to make fun of yeah because
by the time you you catch up with one of
his one of his like atrocious statements
he's already on the second one he said
stuff like oh you can grab I grab them
by the [ __ ] and every oh my God grab
the p and then like two weeks later I
can go into Fifth Avenue and kill
someone in and shoot someone in the face
I like oh my God and then he moves so
became normal because Normal this is
isra what is doing it's just like it's
upping the cruelty and just by the time
you're now 6 months you have we know you
don't even talk
about children starve to death or people
killing each other for flow or or babies
dying because there's no electricity
incubators we don't even speak about
that because we forgot just like it's
BEC so normal we don't talk about the
little people that were like mutilated
and killed we don't even talk about
sexual violence against we don't talk
about that we don't talk about that
because it became so more normal just
because it's it's is are you still
talking about that still talking about
the incubators we have past that we we
we now killing them in front of you in
cameras and we will deny it and we not
going to be able to do anything about it
and if you speak about it you're an
anti-semite you see you see how it is so
stupid yeah and I and I and I and I and
I don't know I
mean it is very
depressing yeah and and and yet it is it
is it it's mind-blowing and and and this
is this is I think the frustration that
comes with like the people who are on
television media because the people in
the streets that goes out every every
weekend they see these things and the
reason why they escalate the anger and
they escalate the frustration is they
see people in the media and on on the on
the political level they don't speak
about that at all as if it doesn't
happen so so so now now at a certain
point
these uh these protest will be more
intense it's like oh look at them
barbaric hate hate marches yeah
anti-semitic yeah you push them to that
it's like oh look at the reaction that I
have just made them
do you see you see how it is this is
this is that have been doing I mean I
gave you an example a synagogue a
synagogue in in Toronto was hosting uh
an event a real estate event to sell
land and houses in the West Bank illegal
settlements which is violating all kinds
of laws and you can only buy it if
you're Jewish which is another
discriminatory law so people went and
they they marched they they had a
demonstration against in front of the
synagogue and know what the pro like oh
look at the anti-m they are they are
they in front of our synagogue oh
Holocaust
anti-semite oh please they forgot and
and they don't talk about the what what
in what led to that you see it's just
like it's about your reaction oh he's
there angry Arabs terrorists they want
to kill us you see that it's been going
on for six months and we and people
falling for it every time but I think
that's quite dangerous politically right
the thing you're talking about there
where everyone can see the reality of
what's happening in the ground it's
actually particularly it's almost a
phenomenon that's associated with social
media right there's no longer a filter
there's no longer control of the
information you can just see the video
right you see what's happen Holocaust
until years after it but you're seeing
the Holocaust right right live you're
watching it happen right and people
don't care and there's a disconnect
right between the reality that you can
see here and then the actual discourse
the conversation whether it's in
political class media class uh large
parts of culture and that disconnect is
a very politically dangerous thing right
because all of a sudden you have this
huge group of people who are very angry
and go why aren't you [ __ ] talking
about the thing that I can see with my
own eyes are you not morally outraged is
this is this not a problem so one I
think it's politically dangerous but two
I wonder if that changes
how you feel as someone of cultural
significance that almost that
responsibility then almost forces you
into participating in discourse raising
awareness challenging people publicly in
a way that perhaps you'd expect a more
political figure or not say that you're
not an intellectual but like a public
intellectual you're almost entering this
Arena because of the complete absence
it's like a vacuum right the people that
should be talking it about it aren't
yeah well I think that's why people I
mean I it happened to me before in Egypt
was a comedian talking about stuff but
on people's mind and and I just had to I
happen to hit a nerve and I'm doing the
same thing when people ask me why do you
think it went viral the P Morgan like
because I was speaking the stuff that
people are saying every single day I'm
not I'm not in I'm not that smart by the
way I'm just like repeating what people
are saying everywhere else and you're
not giving them any kind of
attention so it went vir like oh this is
exactly what you're saying and you you
you you you you want to they they feel
connected they feel uh they feel that
what they say that is is related so
that's why it goes viral and uh but but
the thing is it is not that difficult it
is right there in front of your eyes and
and and it just as you said the
disconnect is is is is is harrowing it's
it's it's very difficult it's very scary
it's really scary it's really scary um
last couple of questions before I'll let
you go why I'm enjoying this I'm
enjoying it as well it's great actually
um okay so I mean I'll give you I'll
give you an examply about the disconnect
you had you
had uh the Western media running with
the decapitated babies and the gang rape
and whatever and and even the Israeli
media refuted these allegations there
were no decapitated babies all all of
the the story about like cutting peoples
out of their babies out of their wombs
all of that was refuted and they talk
openly about the zaka and the had United
how they squandered people for millions
of dollars and for these lies that was
repeat by Senator Anthony uh secretary
Anthony blinkin that that didn't happen
I mean the senator the Anthony blinkin
DES testim in front of Congress you
remember it's like the father has his
eyes gouged the mother had his breast
chopped off she was raped the little
girl had her limp amputated one of the
and the other kid was having his finger
amputated and then they did all of that
and they sat down having dinner having
breakfast and laughing I said where
where's the IDF where are the planes
that were hitting theuts where where are
we stupid are we [ __ ] stupid you
expect to say this story in front of
Congress and the IDF proudly brag about
like an a response time of 3 minutes
where's their f-16s and the Apaches and
their tanks there were actively shooting
they're just like sitting there having
breakfast after like comfortably only
all of this including cutting off
someone's Limbs and raping another one
what kind of this Jake Tapper on CNN he
went and he said every he went with
every single sub story allegation of
rape allegation of decapitate abuse he
went with every single one of them and
he did not refute any one of them none
of these Western media Outlets even
bother to translate the Israeli media
and I said like me an Arab a middle
eastern I'm using Israeli media to prove
my point you see how stupid this is see
how crazy this is none of them just like
guys we messed up we we we went too with
this we apologize because these stories
were used in order to make people accept
the killing of so many Palestinians we
are part of this we are sorry none of
them did it and I even say like you know
Jak taper like he's he's a great
journalist I don't mean to say that he
sucks but he does but like Jake taer he
has a a great uh new show on CNN called
the United scandals of America and I
think he should include his own coverage
in that show because that's a scandal
what he did uh so yeah that that is the
Western media such a disappointment yeah
for sure and I wonder I'm not going to
obviously ask you for like what's how do
we bring peace to the Middle East
because I think that's not my problem
you guys mess it up you come to a
comedian after 75 years I don't care you
you guys mess up I I don't I don't have
any solutions but all I can tell you is
whatever is happening in the media right
now is ridiculous and it's stupid and it
has to stop and it's an insult to
everybody's intelligence do you think
then okay so do you think it's it's as
simple as this that there's uh a problem
with it like general intelligence you
keep saying stupid right is it just that
the people who work in the industry
aren't smart enough to real they know
exactly what they're doing they know
exactly what they're doing they know
exactly what they're doing they know
what Israel is doing is wrong and
they're covering from it why I don't
know I'm I'm not going to give any I I I
have no idea but what is happen what is
happening right now and this like
scandalous covering the coverage of the
news is violates every single lesson
that they gave us about the news and
about about transparency when you have
the New York Times being this the
mouthpiece remember 2003 or the New York
uh times were the mouthpiece of the Bush
Administration about the wmds where we
never found we had the same hair in the
UK and I said like you know what fine
I'm an Arab I'm used having a news
publication being the mouthpiece of a
president you know it's like it's
nostalgic I I understand I understand
that but 20 20 20 years later the New
York Times become the mouthpiece of a
foreign government of Israel like you
know they actually like they they push
all of these like crazy stories they
just repeat that allegations like give
the the story for like an Israeli IDF
spokesman and her her nephew and they
have all of these like alleged
non-verified stories and they and when
when even the the daily which is the New
York Times podcast even when they pulled
back they they they they they doubled
down and they did what they did what
Nixon did when the New York Times
exposed him before about like the the
stuff that was that okay there's a story
there's a context here so New York Times
19 beginning of 1970s they published a
piece about Nixon uh using lies about to
justify the Vietnam War so Nixon went
crazy and he launched an investigation
to know who leaked it and that led to uh
what and then when that happened in the
daily the New York Times instead of
actually apologizing for the LI they
said they launched an internal
investigation to see how how who leaked
the the facts about how this was a b
story you understand how it is so I can
accept as a middle eastern you being the
mouthpiece of a president but you being
a mouthpiece of a client State a CL
state that we fund from our own
taxpayers money that's that's an insult
that is just like a a very low way to to
to to drop to to descend then yeah yeah
the New York Times yeah the beacon the
beacon of Western media I'm conscious
that we've we've spoken a lot about the
media in this which is fine but I'm kind
of I'm seeing on the one hand right okay
so we can't send our reporters into Gaza
they're being denied access right and on
the other hand we've got the information
that's coming straight from the IDF and
anyone who knows anything which these
International reporters do by the way
you know they understand War to a pretty
serious
extent they understand that there's also
an information War as well as a
practical War right that who controls
the airwaves that's relevant who can put
out information it's useful right it's
the reason why sort of the video cameras
on the drones in Ukraine and Russia has
been so useful because you get to see
all this video distributed on Telegram
and on Twitter and it can change
people's opinions about a war right so
if you understand that that's the fact
and the IDF are not letting you go into
Gaza surely you say well okay well we're
not going to just reprint your news
releases until you send us in there
we're not going to the information
you're giving us we can't verify it it's
not true yeah or at least how about
having a bit of Comm sense like for when
the again when the New York Times
publishes like a hit piece just like
repeating the talking point of the
saying there's actually about 450 miles
of Kamas tunnels inside 450 mil of
tunnels you know that the New York
Subway system the New York Subway system
in the richest country of the world in
the richest state of America is 400 it's
it's seven miles less than
that seven miles less than that you want
me to believe that like in a small strip
of land Gaza Hamas build I mean you
should hire those people to fix your
infrastructure seriously I mean what
kind of feat that the Hamas people have
450 Mi of tunnels underneath
Gaza you don't need anything more than
common sense to say that this is
[ __ ] you don't need reporters to
report from inside to say this [ __ ]
yeah you have you have Israel which is
like a that has been caught lying many
times remember shakla the the the
Palestinian American reporter that was
killed for a whole year they denied they
deny it's like oh and then they even
released doctor videos of Islamic Jihad
killing it and then it's like oh okay it
was us
sorry it's just they lie they lie
consistently and they don't care and if
you catch them lying it's like well
we're defending
ourselves yeah very dangerous for the
journalist with a camera um let's talk
about
calling things [ __ ] oh yeah saying
that's [ __ ] that's a lie standing up
and and speaking out which I appreciate
in the context of a war is not
necessarily you know um the most
dangerous thing in the world but it is
nonetheless uh Brave particularly in the
context of a medeor environment which
we've just been talking about which at
times is particularly uncritical when it
comes to this conflict mhm we ever
concerned about speaking out about this
in the way that you have done
particularly actually for your American
audience which I know it's different
here in the UK a little bit different
but certainly in America where speaking
out against Israel it can be I mean it
can be career suicide for people right
at times yeah yeah and I had a little
bit of push back and I lost a couple of
jobs in Hollywood was
that you know but I I always say like
I'm I'm lucky that I'm in stand-up
comedy that I there's no middle man
between me and the audience yeah so
maybe I've been dropped by the establish
but I have been chosen by the
people did you see that did you see you
see how cheesy This was oh my God that's
so cool like I was dropped by The
Establishment but I was chosen by and
you should open with that when you start
I should open that and and and I don't
know I mean uh as you said like there's
no middl man between you and the
audience got people come and pay the
ticket and come to see you doing life
audience I don't I'm not under the mercy
of some executive producer in Hollywood
waiting for me to give a role and you
know or there it's fine you do it
yourself and I I I don't I think I'm I
don't even think I'm a good actor I
think I suck so maybe maybe maybe i'
I've done Hollywood a solid possibly for
the best thing
the cameras never see me what when
people see you performing live and we'll
we will wrap this up in a second what
can they you're coming to my shows right
do you want me to yeah do we have
tickets for Joe yeah baby I guess I'll
come there we go I endorse this man um
what can people expect when they see you
is it political what are you going to
talk about it is political but it
doesn't have to do anything with the
current events because I this is as you
know in standup comedy you work on your
special and I have been working on my
special for 5 years and that's my first
special so it's it's political but it's
my personal story it's like me moving
being a doctor coming becoming a TV host
in comedy being interrogative for my
jokes and then finding myself in America
under Trump and then being finding
myself in a trump Ry or in the middle of
a bombing or but me trying to get the
American citizenship so it's all about
personal stories that is relatable to
anybody even if you are Arab if you're
white if you're British if you're
American it's a very International
Global story that I think brings people
together and and I I want people to come
not as I don't want this to be a
political statement for what's happening
because I don't think I'm ready to talk
about what's happening right now but I
think it's uh it's good to have to get
people and and and and and share a
moment of laughter and even about some
uncomfortable truth about us being
different and having to have all of
these kind of expectations against us
that's it's been an absolute pleasure
thank you so much Joe cheers thank
you
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