Front Wheel Drive in Forza Horizon 5 | Tuning Quickie
Summary
TLDRThis 'Tuning Quickie' video focuses on optimizing front-wheel drive builds for Forza Horizon 5, emphasizing the importance of maximizing front tire grip for competitive performance in Class A and below. The video suggests using high front and adjustable rear arrow, experimenting with tire compounds like semi-slicks or rally tires, and adjusting drivetrain mods based on play style. It also covers tuning tips, such as setting differential lock, brake tuning, and chassis reinforcement, to enhance cornering and control. Practical driving advice like maintaining corner entry and using trail braking is provided to improve performance on circuits.
Takeaways
- 🏎️ Front-wheel drive (FWD) builds are best suited for Class A and below, excelling on circuits where handling is more important than power.
- 🚗 When building a FWD car, like a 97 Honda Civic, the focus should be on maximizing front tire grip, which can be achieved through front aero and the right tire compound.
- 📉 Even in lower classes, adjustable rear aero can help reduce power (PI) while maintaining or even improving handling.
- 🔧 Tire compound is crucial for FWD builds; consider semi-slicks or slicks for better grip, and experiment with rally or drag tires for unique handling characteristics.
- 📐 Maxing out front tire width is recommended for FWD builds to maximize front grip, and increasing rear width can also be beneficial.
- 🔩 Wheel choice should balance style and performance; lightweight wheels can improve handling and reduce unsprung weight.
- 🔄 Drivetrain modifications are less class-specific for FWD; clutch and transmission upgrades are more valuable for automatic players, while manual players might prioritize differently.
- 🚦 Upgrade brakes for circuit-focused FWD builds, but avoid overdoing it to prevent wasting PI.
- 🔧 Chassis reinforcement can aid in handling, but a full cage might be excessive; balance is key.
- ⚙️ Differential tuning is key for corner exit behavior; a higher diff lock can help maintain grip and reduce understeer, especially when accelerating out of corners.
- 📉 Brake tuning can be adjusted to bias the rear, which can help with turn-in and reduce the need for mid-corner corrections.
Q & A
What is the best performance class for front wheel drive builds in Forza Horizon 5?
-Front wheel drive builds are best in a class and below, excelling on circuits where handling takes priority over power.
Why is maximizing front tire grip important for front wheel drive builds?
-Maximizing front tire grip is crucial for front wheel drive builds as it helps maintain better control and handling, especially during cornering.
Does a front-wheel drive car need rear camber angle?
-Yes, contrary to a common myth, front-wheel drive cars do need rear camber angle, and adjustable rear camber can often drop performance index (PI) while improving handling.
What is the significance of tire compound in front wheel drive builds?
-Tire compound is key in front wheel drive builds as it significantly affects grip. Upgrading to semi-slicks or slicks can be beneficial, and experimenting with rally or drag tires can provide unique handling characteristics.
How should one adjust tire width for front wheel drive builds in Forza Horizon 5?
-One should maximize front tire width for better grip, and it's usually beneficial to increase rear width as well, as it often doesn't negatively impact performance index (PI).
What are the advantages of using lightweight wheels in front wheel drive builds?
-Lightweight wheels can improve handling by reducing unsprung weight and are often preferred for their aesthetic appeal.
How does the choice of wheel spacing affect front wheel drive builds?
-When wheel spacing options are available, prioritizing front track width is important. Widening the rear can help reduce body roll or increase rear grip if necessary.
What role do drivetrain modifications play in front wheel drive builds in Forza Horizon 5?
-Drivetrain modifications are somewhat independent of front wheel drive specifics. For automatic players, these mods are more valuable, but for manual players, clutch and transmission upgrades are less critical.
Why is upgrading brakes recommended for front wheel drive builds in Forza Horizon 5?
-Upgrading brakes is recommended to improve handling, especially for circuit-focused builds, but it's important not to overdo it to avoid wasting performance index (PI) points.
What suspension type is suggested for front wheel drive builds in Forza Horizon 5?
-Race suspension is suggested as it maintains better grip compared to rally suspension, which was beneficial in Forza Horizon 4 but doesn't seem to have the same advantage in Forza Horizon 5.
How can chassis reinforcement affect the performance of front wheel drive builds?
-Chassis reinforcement can help improve the car's handling by making it more stable, but fitting a full cage is usually excessive and not necessary for optimal performance.
What tuning adjustments are recommended for the differential in front wheel drive builds?
-A low differential lock should maintain better grip and help pull the car out of a corner without understeer. However, increasing diff lock near 100 can exploit the game's physics to maintain grip during cornering.
Why is brake tuning important for front wheel drive builds in Forza Horizon 5?
-Brake tuning is important to find the right balance between front and rear braking force, which can help with corner entry and prevent understeer caused by excessive front tire load.
How should one approach tuning rear camber angle for front wheel drive builds?
-Rear camber angle is a great tuning tool to manage oversteer. If the rear end slides out too much, adjusting rear camber can help pull the car out of the corner and reduce the need for correction.
What is the recommended approach to damping tuning in front wheel drive builds?
-Damping should be used to fine-tune the front to rear grip balance. Increasing front damping or lowering rear damping can reduce snap oversteer while promoting understeer.
How does alignment play a role in the performance of front wheel drive builds?
-Alignment is important for optimizing cornering feel and ability. Front toe adjustment, in particular, can significantly affect how the car corners and should be tested and adjusted accordingly.
What is the suggested strategy for tire pressure when tuning front wheel drive builds?
-Front tire pressure should be set higher than the rear to aid turn-in. The pressure should be adjusted based on the compound and the vehicle's weight, ensuring not to overheat the tires during cornering.
What driving tips are provided for front wheel drive builds in Forza Horizon 5?
-Key driving tips include staying turned into the corner without correcting, practicing braking on the racing line, not touching the gas until hitting the apex, and using light brakes on throttle for mid-corner corrections to simulate left-foot braking.
Outlines
🏎️ Front Wheel Drive Builds in Forza Horizon 5
This paragraph introduces the concept of front wheel drive (FWD) builds in Forza Horizon 5, emphasizing their competitive advantage in Class A and below, particularly on circuits where handling is more critical than power. The focus is on maximizing front tire grip using a 97 Honda Civic as an example. The speaker discusses the importance of front and rear arrow tuning, tire compounds, and the myth that FWD cars don't need rear arrow adjustments. They also touch on the significance of tire width, wheel choices, and drivetrain modifications, highlighting that sport transmission can lower PI while reducing shift times. The paragraph concludes with advice on brake upgrades and suspension choices, suggesting that race suspension might be more effective than rally suspension in Horizon 5.
🔧 Tuning Tips for Front Wheel Drive Vehicles
The second paragraph delves into the tuning aspects of FWD builds, starting with differential settings that affect corner exit behavior. It explains how a low diff lock can help maintain grip and avoid understeer. The video script then moves on to discuss brake tuning, suggesting that even a slight bias towards the rear can improve cornering. The paragraph also covers front and rear arrow adjustments, chassis reinforcement, and how to manage oversteer and understeer through tuning. It advises on damping, spring stiffness, sway bars, alignment settings, and the importance of tire pressure in relation to grip and heat management. The speaker wraps up with driving tips, emphasizing the importance of staying turned into the corner, managing throttle application, and the potential benefits of trail braking for improved cornering with FWD vehicles.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Front Wheel Drive (FWD)
💡Tire Grip
💡Tire Compound
💡Rear Anti-Roll Bar (Rear ARB)
💡Performance Index (PI)
💡Drivetrain Mods
💡Brake Bias
💡Chassis Reinforcement
💡Tire Pressure
💡Trail Braking
Highlights
Front wheel drive builds are best in a class and below, excelling on circuits where handling is prioritized over power.
Maximizing front tire grip is crucial for front wheel drive builds.
Front arrow is beneficial even in B-class, and adjustable rear arrow can also reduce PI.
Tire compound is key for front wheel drive, with upgrades like semi-slicks or slicks being worth considering.
Experimenting with rally tires or drag tires can provide unique handling characteristics.
Maximize front tire width for better grip, and consider increasing rear width for added stability.
Bigger, heavier wheels are generally more PI efficient, but lightweight wheels can improve handling and aesthetics.
Prioritize front track width when choosing wheel spacing, and widen the rear if needed to reduce body roll or increase rear grip.
Drivetrain mods are independent of front wheel drive specifics, with clutch and transmission upgrades being less important for manual players.
Sport transmission often drops PI while lowering shift times, making it a valuable upgrade.
Brake upgrades are recommended for circuit-focused front wheel drive builds, but avoid overdoing it to save PI.
Rally suspension worked well on front-wheel drive cars in Horizon 4, but in Horizon 5, race suspension is preferred for better grip.
Chassis reinforcement can help with grip, but a full cage is usually excessive.
Weight reduction is always a strong choice if it fits within the build.
Tuning the differential is key to managing corner exit understeer in front wheel drive builds.
Brake tuning is an important aspect of front wheel drive tuning, with a bias towards the rear recommended for some builds.
Front arrow should be high on circuit builds, while rear arrow is a great tool for managing oversteer.
Damping is the final tweaking tool to balance front to rear grip, with adjustments helping to reduce snap oversteer.
Spring stiffness is usually balanced out of the box, but adjustments can be made if necessary.
Sway bars are a great tuning tool, with low or no front arb for more front grip and stiffening rear to reduce body roll.
Alignment is important, with camber and caster adjustments ensuring optimal tire temperature and cornering feel.
Front toe plays a significant role in cornering ability, with small adjustments greatly affecting performance.
Gearing is independent of front wheel drive specifics and has been covered elsewhere.
Tire pressure should be set with front higher than rear to aid turn-in, with adjustments made based on compound and vehicle weight.
Driving tips for front wheel drive include staying turned into the corner, practicing on the racing line, and managing throttle application.
Trail braking can be a useful technique for front wheel drive cars, especially with a heavier front brake bias.
Transcripts
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hey everyone welcome to this tuning
quickie on front wheel drive builds for
forza horizon 5. if you aren't familiar
with the tuning quickie series from
horizon 4 these guides move pretty quick
and don't dive too far into the details
because i've usually covered the topics
elsewhere these videos are all about
getting you the info you need to know as
quick as possible so with that said
let's jump in front wheel drive from a
competitive standpoint is best in a
class and below and usually excels on
circuits where handling takes priority
over power let's look at building a car
with this 97 honda civic a very strong
b-class choice the goal here is all
about maximizing front tire grip so
front arrow even on b-class is pretty
helpful and on lower classes it barely
costs any pi sometimes it even drops it
also it's totally a myth that
front-wheel drive cars don't need rear
arrow they do and on top of that the
adjustable rear arrow often drops pi as
well so you should usually take it your
tire compound will be key even on
low-class cars big compound upgrades
like semi-slicks or even slicks can be
worth it you can also experiment a bit
here by trying rally tires or even drag
tires in some builds which will give you
some pretty unique handling
characteristics but can allow you to fit
some more upgrades while being still
fairly grippy tire compound is in my
opinion the most important upgrade to
play with and dial in for front wheel
drive you should absolutely max your
front tire width if possible too
remember front wheel drive builds are
all about maximizing front grip and it
usually doesn't hurt to increase your
rear width either it's usually free or
drops pi due to the added rim weight but
having the extra grip in the rear will
keep it in check around corners and
prevent you from having to correct for
rim weight and size honestly i focus on
style over everything but generally
bigger heavier wheels tend to be more pi
efficient for what it's worth i often
run lightweight wheels to shave off some
unsprung weight and improve handling and
because they look better if you have
wheel spacing options prioritize front
track width and you can widen rear if
you need to reduce body roll or increase
rear grip drivetrain mods are pretty
independent of anything front wheel
drive specific if you play on auto these
will be more valuable but for manual and
manual with clutch players the clutch
and transmission upgrades are somewhat
less important also worth mentioning
here that the sport transmission often
drops pi while lowering shift times as
well you may just need to tweak your
final drive for platform and handling
since front wheel drive builds are often
circuit focused it's worth it to upgrade
brakes just don't overdo it and waste pi
now in horizon 4 for whatever reason
rally suspension seemed to work really
well on front-wheel drive cars i
personally have not noticed that to be
the case in horizon 5 though race
suspension seems to maintain grip better
so that's what i always run chassis
reinforcement can actually help quite a
bit here but the full cage is usually
overdoing it we'll touch on this one
later though and weight reduction if you
can fit it is pretty much always a
strong choice and from there just fill
out your power alright let's talk tuning
starting with the differential which is
the key factor in determining corner
exit understeer realistically a low diff
lock should maintain grip better and
pull you out of a corner without
understeer however the main physics
tweak in horizon 5 that makes the game
less of a sim and more towards arcade is
the fact that it allows you more front
tire grip while trying to break or
accelerate during cornering this can be
exploited to a point in front wheel
drive by increasing diff lock near 100
you'll often still be able to maintain
enough grip to let your power pull you
through the corner without inducing
understeer now front wheel drive builds
are really the only place i strongly
suggest playing with your brake tuning
even though horizon does let you put a
lot of force on the front tires it can
still be best to move some bias towards
the rear in some builds to leave some
grip for cornering test your braking
distance to make sure you aren't
sacrificing much but moving a bit of
your force towards the rear can help you
on corner entry if you're comfortable
with trail braking though moving too
much bias to the rear can restrict your
ability to trail brake you can probably
guess where i'm going with front arrow
on circuit builds this should be high
rear arrow is a great tuning tool so
let's take a look at what it can do if
your rear end is sliding out too much
it'll start to pull you out of your
corner forcing you to correct which in
front wheel drive costs you a lot of
time you really want to be able to turn
in and stay in your corner in
transitions a loose rear end can
introduce snap oversteer as well chassis
reinforcement rear tire width and
pressure and rear arrow are some of the
key factors in fixing this you can
overdo it though and cause understeer
you actually want the rear to push out
just a bit it helps point the car into
the corner so damping should be your
final tweaking tool to dial in the front
to rear grip balance increasing front
damping or lowering rear will reduce
snap oversteer but promote some
understeer so if you aren't having
issues with the rear end sliding out
then decrease front or increase rear
damping to push more suspension grip
over the front tires spring stiffness is
often quite balanced out of the box i
wouldn't play with this unless you need
to and i always drop ride height to
lower center of gravity and get those
extra style points sway bars are another
great tuning tool if you like softer
suspension setups running low or no
front arb can give you a lot of front
grip and stiffening rear can help reduce
body roll and keep you locked into the
corner the whole minimum front maximum
rear arb strategy is usually attributed
to meta tuning and stretching the game's
physics but in front wheel drive it's
actually pretty realistic i've seen
plenty of front wheel track cars with no
front sway bar and huge rears alignment
as always is pretty important but
follows the same rules as any of my
other guides for camber and caster just
make sure your inside tire temp averages
about 10 to 20 degrees fahrenheit hotter
than the outside now front toe is gonna
play a big role in your cornering feel a
few fractions of a degree here can
heavily alter your cornering ability so
make sure you test this i usually fall
somewhere between 0.1 and 0.3 gearing is
another setting very independent of
anything front wheel drive related and
we've covered it elsewhere so finally we
come to tire pressure set your front
pressure higher than your rear if it
isn't already this will help with
turn-in then you generally want to drop
pressure a bit depending on your
compound and your vehicle's weight lower
pressures can improve the grip feel but
too low will cause your tires to
overheat faster so take a few laps and
make sure you aren't getting too far
into the yellow or orange heat zones
when cornering and that's about it for
tuning i'll leave you with some final
driving tips for front wheel drive here
like i said throughout the video making
sure you can stay turned into your
corner is key in front wheel drive if
you can't corner without correcting you
need to adjust the tune if it helps to
practice turn on that racing line or at
least braking line to help gauge braking
distance and aim for your apex which by
the way is often where the inside
checkpoint flag is on a race also make
sure you aren't getting on the throttle
too early or too hard make a habit of
not touching the gas until you hit your
apex because with most front-wheel drive
builds you'll start to straighten and
understeer out of the corner if you're
too hard on gas too early if you need to
make mid to late corner corrections it
can be helpful to apply light break
while on throttle to simulate a bit of
left foot braking to keep you in your
corner and if you're comfortable with
trail braking or want to learn it can be
a great tool to improve your cornering
this works best with heavier front brake
bias you want to brake for your corner
and then ease off but maintain some
light braking pressure during your turn
in this keeps weight over the front
tires increasing grip and turn in
ability then by the time you hit your
apex you should be off the brake and
start to apply some throttle this is
effectively impossible on keyboard but
you can manage it with a good braking
control on a controller or of course
with a wheel and pedals don't worry too
much about trail braking though unless
you already feel confident in your other
driving abilities and just want to push
yourself that little bit farther alright
everyone hope this video helped you
build for front wheel drive i'll see you
in the next one
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