Google Cybersecurity vs Security+ for Beginners (ft. @JoshMadakor)
Summary
TLDRIn this video discussion, the hosts compare Google's Cyber Security certification with CompTIA's Security Plus, concluding that Google's program is more comprehensive and practical. They critique the overreliance on certifications, particularly CompTIA's, which they view as overpriced and theoretically focused. The conversation emphasizes the importance of hands-on experience and the ability to perform in interviews over mere certification titles. The hosts also touch on the role of certifications in job hunting, suggesting strategies to leverage certification studies for career advancement without necessarily incurring high exam costs.
Takeaways
- 📢 The speaker asserts that Google's cybersecurity certification is superior to CompTIA Security Plus, based on a detailed comparison.
- 👨🏫 There's criticism of CompTIA's reliance on multiple-choice questions, which the speaker believes devalues the certification's worth.
- 📈 The script discusses the importance of certifications for keyword matching in applicant tracking systems (ATS) and as a baseline for knowledge.
- 💼 The speaker shares personal experiences in the cybersecurity industry, noting that many professionals do not hold or prioritize certifications.
- 💼 It's highlighted that practical skills and experience are often more valued in the industry over certifications.
- 💼 The discussion points out that certifications are just one of many factors that can help in securing a job in cybersecurity.
- 💰 The cost of CompTIA Security Plus is criticized as overpriced, especially when compared to the broader and more practical content offered by Google's program.
- 🔒 The script touches on the historical reasons behind CompTIA's inclusion in US Department of Defense requirements and how it may not be as relevant today.
- 🔑 The importance of hands-on experience is emphasized, with Google's program providing practical lab work that is lacking in CompTIA's curriculum.
- 🎯 For job seekers, the script suggests a strategy of listing certifications 'in progress' on resumes to navigate the ATS and secure interviews.
Q & A
What is the main comparison discussed in the video?
-The video compares the Google Cyber Security Professional Certificate with CompTIA Security Plus, discussing their relative merits and effectiveness in the cybersecurity field.
Why did the speaker conclude that Google's program is better than CompTIA Security Plus?
-The speaker concluded that Google's program is better due to its broader content, hands-on components, and practical sections such as using a SIEM and job hunting strategies.
What is the speaker's opinion on the value of recognized certifications in the cybersecurity industry?
-The speaker believes that while certifications can help with keyword matching for applicant tracking systems and provide a baseline of knowledge, they are not the only way to demonstrate competency and are sometimes overemphasized.
Why might someone choose to get both Google Cyber Security and CompTIA Security Plus certifications?
-Someone might choose to get both certifications to gain a broader understanding of cybersecurity concepts, acquire hands-on skills, and to potentially meet specific job requirements that list CompTIA Security Plus.
What is the speaker's view on the importance of hands-on experience in cybersecurity certifications?
-The speaker emphasizes the importance of hands-on experience, stating that cybersecurity is a practical job and certifications should reflect that by including practical labs and real-world applications.
How does the cost of CompTIA Security Plus compare to Google Cyber Security in the discussion?
-The cost of CompTIA Security Plus is criticized as being overpriced for the value it offers, with a one-time exam fee of $400, whereas Google Cyber Security offers a more comprehensive curriculum for a monthly fee that can be completed within a month.
What is the significance of the Department of Defense (DOD) requirements in the discussion about certifications?
-The DOD requirements are significant as they have historically influenced the demand for certain certifications like CompTIA Security Plus. However, the speakers argue that these requirements do not necessarily reflect the quality of the certification and are more a result of historical availability.
Why might someone in the cybersecurity industry not have certifications or not care about them?
-Some professionals in the cybersecurity industry may not have certifications or care about them because they prioritize real-world experience, skills, and continuous learning over certification titles, and because certifications can sometimes be passed without deep understanding.
What is the speaker's advice for someone new to the cybersecurity field regarding certifications?
-The speaker advises new entrants to the cybersecurity field to focus on acquiring practical skills and knowledge, possibly starting with the Google Cyber Security curriculum for its comprehensive and affordable approach, and not to be overly concerned with having a specific certification.
What is the ethical stance of the speaker regarding the representation of certifications on a resume?
-The speaker suggests that it is acceptable to list certifications as 'in progress' on a resume to help secure an interview, as long as the candidate is actively studying and intends to complete the certification, and is capable of performing in the interview and on the job.
Outlines
📢 Controversy Over Cyber Security Certifications
The speaker begins by addressing the controversy stirred by a previous video comparing Google's cyber security certification with CompTIA Security Plus. They admit to having upset many with their opinion that Google's program is superior. The conversation then shifts to the broader topic of recognized certifications in the cyber security field, questioning their significance and utility. The speaker argues that certifications can aid in keyword matching for applicant tracking systems and provide a baseline of knowledge, but their true value is often overstated. They express skepticism about the existence of a definitive list of recognized certifications, suggesting that job requirements and skills often outweigh the importance of certifications.
🎓 The Role of Certifications in Cyber Security
The discussion continues with the role of certifications in the cyber security industry. The speaker emphasizes that while certifications can be beneficial, they are not the only path to employment. They argue that other factors such as formal education, personal presentation, and interview skills are equally important. The speaker also points out that many professionals in the industry do not possess or prioritize certifications. The conversation highlights the importance of practical skills and real-world experience over mere certification titles.
💼 Practicality in Cyber Security Certifications
The focus of the conversation now is on the practical aspects of cyber security certifications. The speaker criticizes CompTIA's multiple-choice based exams, arguing that they do not reflect the practical nature of the job. They advocate for certifications that include hands-on components and practical labs, like Google's cyber security certification, which they believe better prepares individuals for real-world cyber security work. The speaker also touches on the importance of job-hunting strategies and resume building, which Google's program includes, unlike CompTIA's.
💵 Cost and Value of Cyber Security Certifications
The conversation turns to the cost and pricing of cyber security certifications. The speaker expresses their view that CompTIA's certifications are overpriced relative to the value they offer, especially when compared to Google's cyber security certification. They discuss the business practices of CompTIA, suggesting that their pricing does not align with the content and infrastructure they provide. The speaker also mentions the historical context behind CompTIA's dominance in certain job requirements and how the industry has evolved beyond those initial options.
🌐 Global Perspectives on Cyber Security Certifications
The speaker expands the discussion to include a global perspective on cyber security certifications. They clarify that certain certification requirements, such as those from the US Department of Defense, are specific to the US and may not be relevant to individuals outside of the country. They emphasize that the private sector offers ample opportunities for cyber security professionals without the need for such certifications. The conversation also touches on the varying attitudes within the industry towards certifications, with some professionals valuing them less as one progresses in their career.
🚀 Entry-Level Certifications and Career Progression
The final paragraph addresses the perception and importance of entry-level certifications in the minds of job seekers and employers. The speaker reminds the audience that both Google's and CompTIA's certifications are introductory and should not be seen as the ultimate measure of expertise in the field. They encourage a balanced approach to learning and certification, suggesting that one can pursue both certifications if desired. The speaker also shares a semi-ethical tip on how to use the pursuit of certifications to one's advantage in the job search process without necessarily completing them, as a way to navigate the applicant tracking systems and interview processes.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Google Cyber Security
💡CompTIA Security Plus
💡Certification
💡Cybersecurity
💡Applicant Tracking System (ATS)
💡Recognized Certifications
💡Multiple Choice Exams
💡Practical Hands-On
💡Job Hunt Section
💡Ethical Manipulation
Highlights
Comparison between Google's Cyber Security certification and CompTIA Security Plus.
Opinion that Google's program is better than CompTIA Security Plus.
Criticism of certifications based on multiple-choice questions.
Role of recognized certifications in the cyber security industry.
Certifications' impact on applicant tracking systems (ATS).
Importance of certifications in providing a baseline of knowledge.
Lack of recognition for 'recognized certifications' outside of certain circles.
The insignificance of certifications in the eyes of many industry professionals.
Practicality of cyber security skills versus theoretical knowledge.
Content comparison between Google Cyber Security and CompTIA Security Plus.
Google Cyber Security's broader content and hands-on components.
Critique of CompTIA's pricing and value for their certification.
The Department of Defense's requirements and their influence on certification choices.
The diminishing importance of certifications as one progresses in their career.
The prevalence of cheating on multiple-choice exams and its impact on the industry's view of certifications.
Strategies for job hunting in cyber security without certifications.
Ethical considerations and social engineering in resume building for job applications.
The idea that job hunting is a form of manipulation to instill confidence in potential employers.
Transcripts
so a few weeks ago I made a video
comparing Google cyber security
professional certification with compia
Security Plus and after a lot of
analysis I came to the conclusion that
Google's program is actually objectively
better than compia Security Plus and I
kind of let that opinion be known in the
video and I kind of piss off a lot of
people Josh welcome here looks like you
pissed off a lot of people when you said
that the Google cyber security SE is
better than comps Security Plus so I
actually had a giggle when I watched
your video because I I get constant
criticism because I continue to
criticize not only coma but also all
cyber security certification and
training that are based on multiple
choice questions I'm just not a fan of
those so let's start with the elephant
in the room which is a recognized
certifications so honestly if I didn't
work in the cyber security industry and
I went on Reddit or just Google and I
started looking at cyber security
training and certification I'll get the
impression that there is a certain set
of recognized certification that people
in cyber security recognize and
otherwise they can't recognize any
training that's not in that list of
recognized training so yeah what's the
deal with those recognized certification
yeah so for me in my opinion uh
certification can kind of give you one
of two things or both sometimes uh like
the first thing being like it might be
able to help you with uh like keyword
matching like the ATS like the applicant
tracking system um so when somebody says
like recognize CT to me I just imagine
like uh a really mainstream one that the
ATS might catch but that's like only one
way that the certification can help you
like the other way is it will give you
like some kind of Baseline of knowledge
or or something like this or it will
help you in in some way be able to
perform well in the interview some CS
have both of these um but some SS are
like really stronger in in one area so
when people say recognize SS I just
imagine it's a really mainstream one
that the ATS is you know scanning for
sometimes yeah man like to be honest I
work in the cyber security industry and
by the way so are you uh I have never
come across the concept of recognized SE
up until I started watching cyber
security YouTube and read on stuff on
Reddit um I think people get into the
Trap of they'll read a job description
and they'll ignore everything in the job
description and go at the end of the job
description and say oh okay those are
the list of certifications listed in
that job therefore there must be you
know this certification that the person
who wrote the job description recognizes
but honestly to me like a recognition
and and it's not just that certification
it can be the skill like for example if
someone wants to work in vulnerability
management or penetration testing there
are so many requirements for that job
and so many skills that the job wants
you to have that goes far beyond the
certification so like I personally
haven't come across of that secret book
of recognized
certification uh which is really which
is really strange if if you think about
it right now we're comparing like the
Google cyber security SE with comp
Security Plus in the industry I haven't
seen people uh care too much about
Security Plus I haven't seen people talk
about it I haven't seen most people like
in fact most people I work within the
industry don't even have certifications
or care about it so just curious to see
what are your views on that yeah so when
I think about um this by the way I think
at least in the US I think my life of
thinking is correct based on like my
experience and like all these empirical
evidence but when you're thinking about
getting a job in cyber security there's
like a whole bunch of stuff that you
need to worry about um that can help you
right like certification formal
education like the fact that you're not
wearing pajamas your ability to
articulate yourself well your ability to
like interview well and the knowledge
that you have like all these things are
like stuff that you can use to get a job
and you don't need to have like all of
them and you don't need to have like any
particular one like for example a
certification um you don't necessarily
need it it's just one of the things that
can help you and if you if you want to
think about like a really extreme
example if you think about like any of
these like really famous hackers right
like doggy G or Kevin mitnik do you
imagine they they don't need like
Security Plus they can come to the
interview probably in underwear right if
the people know who they are and they
can they can get hired because their one
like stat was so so high and if if
you're like a brand new person it's
smart for you to like look at the
different areas and like take what you
can get right if you're brand new it
might make sense to get like a
certification or something like this but
you can certainly like get a job without
getting a certification you just have to
make sure other stats are higher by like
having a nice nicely articulated resume
and like projects and like just other
stuff right if that if that makes sense
exactly 100% And and like spot on it
it's like
you want to get the job the job has
certain requirements as a candidate you
need to just prove somehow that you have
you can meet those requirements and
sometimes like as an entry level
candidate we know that you don't have
all the skill that the job is asking for
but at least if you're showing that
you're willing to learn and like you
said you don't show in pajamas you
actually are someone who's decent you
can talk you can dress you have
personable skills it it doesn't matter
if you don't take all the boxes in every
job description out there so to me like
I I recommend certifications a lot on my
videos and Josh as well recommends that
on his channel and I'll put a link to
Josh to Josh's to to uh Josh's channel
on the description box below uh for you
to check it out but really I use
certifications as a structured way to
learn a topic I could not care less if
every hiring manager knows about the
title of that certification I don't care
if it's listed in a job description it
doesn't matter because the skill that
you will acquire from that particular
training course will be listed in that
job requirement so to me the whole
argument that you know this
certification is more recognized than
this and this I I personally don't buy
it I think yeah sure someone out there
might quote unquote recognize this
certification but still you can always
list the knowledge that you've learned
whether it's from the Security Plus or
the Google Plus or any training course
so I I really liked how you explained it
in your video when you talked about your
short maybe someone somewhere out there
can C and or to recognize the title of
the certification because that's what it
is it's just the title and the name of
the sech but as far as content is
concerned I wouldn't base my study plan
based on you know who recognizes what
which brings me to the second Point Josh
in your video you touched on the content
you you compared the content of the
Security Plus and the content of the
Google cyber security set and I'm really
curious to see like what do you think
which one is which one has more content
but not only content which one has more
content that are relevant to the actual
job that we do in cyber
security yeah so definitely I made a
whole video breaking down the objectives
between the two um Google Google cyber
security doesn't have an objectives
sheet like compia does so I I had to
build it with chat GPT and like ripping
the curriculum like transcript but uh
Google cyber security has like way way
broader content as well as Hands-On
components for them uh specifically Ally
it covers like Sim operation and how to
use a SIM and how to query logs within
the Sim which is quite huge right for
security operations and it has like a
whole section on like Python and as it
pertains to automation within cyber
security and arguably most importantly
it has like a job hunt section where it
talks about resume and portfolio and
like job hunting strategy which is like
the thing that like gets you a job so in
terms of like objectives and like what
it actually covers like it's not really
a competition I would say like Google
cyber security is is the clear winner
for this 100% man and that was the same
sentiment that I had when I first
explored the Google cyber security set
I've done the comp security set honestly
can't remember when 2010 11 I can't
remember a long time ago but I remember
like I learned nothing from doing it it
was mainly a review and I had to just
study in a certain way just to pass a
multiple choice exam and it didn't
really help me in my journey but again
at that time that was the only option if
I wanted to upskill if I wanted to learn
but now we have more options so I was
really happy when I saw the Google cyber
SE getting released because it had
things that I personally care about
which you touched on which is Hands-On
practical labs to me cyber security is a
practical job it's not a theoretical job
so it's really really important that
even at the entry level which both
certifications are just an introduction
to cyber security that you start
learning about it in fact so much much
so that I think coma is doing the
industry in my opinion a disservice and
I know I'm going to get in trouble for
saying this but really just
credentialing people with multiple
choice based exams it can do the student
a lot of disservice like I remember this
guy in in my Discord who was U he passed
his comp Security Plus and I personally
helped him get his job here because he
lives in the same city uh in Australia
and he was so like I regretted helping
him because he was so so arrogant with
answering people in the comments in in
the Discord and I remember like one of
his things was done com he was he used
to say Security Plus and compa is the
only and best provider out there and his
um his usual example he tried to test
people in Discord and he's like do you
know where logs are stored in Linux and
it has to be SLV log and I I used to say
I get SI of him and I'm like okay so
like can you tell like let's let's like
let's do a mock interview or something
can you tell me give me an example of an
actual log entry that you've learned in
that you've read in a log file he's like
well so he just memorized that this is
the location of the log but because
again it's only theoretical and
memorization what he doesn't know is the
quote and code location of the log file
is different between different Linux
testos and not only that it's actually
customizable so we can personally change
it so in my opinion there is zero Merit
in memorizing where that log file
location is and there is even less Merit
in testing someone out on it in multiple
choice exams so to me if you're going to
do an introduction to cyber security
course which is what the Security Plus
or Google+ are you may as well pick
something with a practical hands on and
like you said Josh towards the end I
even have like a resume and how to apply
to jobs which is important because as
someone who's doing an entry level sech
this is your goal your goal is to get a
job your goal is not to have another SE
or have bragging rights or to fight with
people in this cour you your goal is to
land a job and I think this is the
priority does that make
sense yeah that that makes sense I'm I'm
on board with this so the next point
that I saw in your video Josh was you
compared the cost and pricing of the
Google cybert and the compt Security
Plus and this might piss some people off
because in my opinion again I think
compa certifications and even training
are way overpriced for the value that
they offer like I know there are
training out there that is more
expensive than compa and there are stuff
that are cheaper but I think for the
value that's offered by a compa I think
some of this stuff is way way overpriced
so yeah really Keen to hear your
thoughts on the actual pricing
comparison that you did between the two
yeah so like for people who don't know
um I think currently uh comp Security
Plus is like
$44 or something and
then yeah just the exam it and you
better pass pass it right otherwise you
got to like take it again yeah and then
Google cyber security it's about like
$50 a month until you finish it but if
you're like diligent you can probably
finish it in like a month um so it's
like eight times more and it it's really
obvious what like compa is doing cuz
they have their like they have their
claws in the dod or whatever to make you
make you have to get Security Plus in
order to get certain jobs and you know
there's the whole name value thing so
they're of course whatever their
business they're like taking Tak
advantage of that cuz my opinion there's
no there's no reason for that to cost
$400 because they're just maintaining
like really basic set of exam objectives
and they don't even have any like
infrastructure uh like that $44 doesn't
pay for like infrastructure to like
practice anything on like for example
Google cyber security they at least like
have a little bit of infrastructure like
some kind of virtual environment that
you can use but like compa I I wouldn't
make fun of them so much if they weren't
charging like $400 for that for
maintaining OB objectives I'm not like
sure what they're thinking other than
just like trying to get a bunch of money
I
guess man like what's that meeme like if
I speak I'm in trouble there is a big
big YouTube channel I'm not going to
link it here I think it's like a 2
million sub Channel and that guy really
attacks coma he focuses more on A+ but
there is so so much stuff coming out of
comp as an organization that I'm
honestly not surprised uh that they
charge this much um but um you're spot
on like you're not getting anything it's
it's literally just an exam a multiple
choice exam I'm not a good one at it to
be honest and we'll get to that later in
the video uh but um I just want to
elaborate on um what you said on DOD
requirements so just for people who may
not be aware so DOD is the US Department
of Defense and to get a job and correct
me if I'm wrong Josh you know this more
than me because you in the US to get a
job in the Department of Defense or
somewhere that's considered Department
of Defense you need a certain set of
certifications and com is one of them is
that correct Josh yes yeah depends on
the job but yeah that that's that's very
accurate yeah which is really okay so to
to actually dissect that this by the way
the do requirement and having security I
think some US government jobs they even
want you to have certified ethical
hacker which is a strange requirement
but for those who are new to the
industry like there is a reason behind
that it's because when those
requirements were written there wasn't
other cyber security training option out
there available to us even universities
didn't have cyber security degree so
they had to pick something and the only
thing available at the time was like
your isc2 and your EC Council and the
comp so that's where this came from but
the world has changed so so much now
this is point number one the second
point I get some people commenting on my
videos when I criticize SI compy and
they say compy is a must because DOD
requirements and some of those people
aren't even in the US so if you're not a
US citizen the dod requirement means
nothing to you just emphasize that yeah
so I cannot get a job in the dod
Department of Defense because I'm not a
US citizen this is the most important
thing right the second most important
thing is like the US is one probably the
biggest Market when it comes to like it
job and cyber security jobs and it is so
much bigger than like the government and
Department of Defense so you can be a US
citizen and you can work in the private
sector and you can have a long and happy
and fulfilled life without having to
meet the O requirements so Josh what do
you think about this
requirement yeah uh absolutely um I my
my Security Plus expired so long ago and
I've had like a highish profile job
since then cuz people don't care right
as long as you have like other stats or
something they won't really care about
like your certifications really at all
especially like Security Plus um but
yeah you can have a long and healthy
cyber security life with without it yeah
and I don't know about you Josh but like
you cannot pay me enough to work in the
public sector so even like I've got
offers to work in government and stuff
and no thank you like much respect for
those who do it I prefer the the private
sector but like it's just I think the
problem is people see that that it's a
requirement by the Department of Defense
therefore it must be good or it must be
original but the real story is when
those requirements were written that was
the only option like security there was
nothing else out there so they needed to
put something but again if you don't
want to work in the Department of
Defense it's definitely not a must and
as Josh said at a senior level no one
cares about certification in fact I keep
saying this no one likes to hear it but
most people that I've met in the
industry don't have any certifications
nor do they care like we don't spend our
days asking each other which
certification or which which exam people
just get experience and you get hired
for your experience um that has been my
experience in the industry most of my
colleagues don't care about exp
certifications at all not sure if that's
been your experience as well Josh yeah
basically um I think what I'm about to
say is true like your certification
stops mattering like once you're in the
interview not even like it stops
mattering at that time cuz they're not
going to be like oh like oh you have
Security Plus plus 10 points like it
might it might help you to get the
interview from the resume scanner right
it might help yeah but when you're in
the interview they don't care about like
any of that they're just going to like
ask you questions and then like gauge
your personal skill and like you know
all those soft skills and technical
stuff but yeah after the interview it
stops mattering exactly 100% to be
honest with you I've even been
criticized by my colleagues for like for
doing certific ifications because my
plan was up until recently is every year
I'll do one like big certification
something new just to learn but some
some colleagues don't like it like
certifications don't actually have the
best reputation and like we'll get to
the whole multiple choice exam thing so
like hundreds if not like so many people
cheat to get those certifications and
unfortunately if you're someone who
interview a lot of candidates you will
see quickly that so many people cheat
their ways to those exams um the
questions and answers for those like
comp and even like the CPS and those
multiple choice stuff the questions and
answers are out there on the internet
people just copy them they memorize them
and they pass the exam we know that from
the interview and it's really easy to
find out if someone has cheated or not
therefore so many people in the industry
right or wrong we can disagree with them
they don't like certifications they
don't trust the
certifications which is why in in my
experience it don't focus on just
passing exams f focus on acquiring the
skills focus on those certifications
that are practical in natur that offer
labs for you to practice on because
that's a skill that's relevant to the
job you can add the skill to your resume
and in the interview you'll be able to
prove that you have that experience
so that's been my experience anyway but
if anything I have been criticized by
some in like my manager telling me why
do you spend so much time doing these
exams and stuff you should focus on work
and you should focus on on the job
itself yeah I mean it's probably better
than just like playing games at work
right to to study something it it's at
least you're like studying something um
because I I used to like collect a lot
of certifications to like a lot and then
I was like damn none of this like 95% of
these ain't
matter oh man tell me about it I I
actually removed a lot of them from my
resume so I have certifications in like
sun Solaris 9 and sun solar 10 and I
have um have a certification called SN
storage something something for like the
storage um like um the sand storage that
we used to use in the past I've got um
I've got some really stupid stupid ones
that I'm not proud of some Microsoft MCS
CSA and stuff and yeah like I started
removing them because they take up so
much space they haven't actually helped
me but to be fair I'm someone I respect
certific so if someone can show me that
they're working on certification even
after they get the job to me that's
someone that's invested in this and
quote unquote are passionate about the
job because they are actually doing the
work that proves that passion they are
doing something that can make them
progress in their career but truth of
the matter is in this industry you're
bound to meet people who for some reason
don't like certifications and yeah
that's
that yeah yes yes so Jos when it comes
to again you compared Security Plus to
Google and you concluded that the Google
cyber security set is better which by
the way is also my conclusion but um I
really want to pick your brain on this
point which is that people forget that
both of these certifications are entry
level like they are an introduction to
cyber security they are not
certifications or courses that will make
you an expert in cyber security in fact
they will just touch the surface on many
many topics in cyber security um and for
some reason like I said some people have
an emotional attachment to compa
Security Plus or even maybe to the
Google cyber security s to a lesser
extent what are your thoughts on this
like especially on comti like having so
much weight in people's minds even
though it's basically nothing but an
introduction to the
field yeah um I don't think people have
to think about it like so much um if you
just like learn like start learning
something and then build an intuition
for it I think it's going to help you a
lot and you don't have to choose like
one or the other you can choose both if
you want and if you're set on getting
Security Plus you might as well get both
because um I think they're still doing
if you pass the Google cyber security
you get like 30% off Security Plus
anyway which makes it cheaper than like
Security Plus like on its own without
getting Google cyber security which is
which is weird um but yeah you don't you
don't need to worry about it like too
much to be honest if you're brand new I
recommend you just go through the Google
cyber security curriculum not because
like corser is like giving me money or
something it's just like really low
capital expenditure it's like for like
$49 or something and you can just go
through it slowly rather than uh trying
to spend like $400 just just to take
Security Plus right it does for me it
doesn't like make that much sense to do
not to mention you get at least like
some semblance of hand on practice uh
with Google cyber security certification
so that's just like my my take on it
100% love it and like you so in like to
just conclude your views you say that
the Google cyber security certificate
and I quote the title of your video is
that it's objectively better than
Security Plus I 100% agree but you also
say you know when you do the Google
cyber search you will get some hands on
practice you will learn more topics but
also you will get that 30% discount
which will make the security plus
cheaper so if you're new to this
industry and you're trying to you know
get your foot in the door you're trying
to build that knowledge there's no
reason why you can't do both am I
correct and is that a fair assumption uh
yeah yeah it is it is yes honestly My
Views are the same like you can do both
if you want to I'd say the I guess the
road maps on my video is that yeah start
with the Google cber security search and
to me like you can do the Security Plus
optional you have that discount code you
can use it I did find some people
especially um if someone is completely
new to cyber security and they don't
have any technical experience or
technical knowledge some people can
struggle with the security plus some
people and like you said it's a $400
exam you don't want to be failing that
exam so in my opinion like you can
continue studying cyber security after
the Google uh cyber search by doing some
actual practical Hands-On projects or
practical Hands-On training and what
whatever you pick like try hack me or
anything like pick a platform use it get
some knowledge and you can come back to
the Security Plus as well but you'll
come back to it with more perspective
with more knowledge and it it will be a
lot easier instead of trying to force
yourself to memorize those questions and
answers but yeah as someone who's new
you can always do both in whichever
order you want but um yeah
man yeah can I can I say something like
semi unethical it might might help them
a bit please you have unethical we love
unethical tips in this channel so please
go ahead okay so I I think uh as someone
who's trying to search for or trying to
get a job in cyber security it's it's
good to think about that whole like
operation of getting a job think about
it as like a big social engineering
operation where basically the game is
what you're really doing is you're just
trying to convince somebody to hire you
and by convince I I lowkey mean like
manipulate them into hiring you cuz
that's that's literally what it is you
have to like um instill confidence in
like the ATS right to let you get an
interview and then when you get
interviewed you have to like instill
confidence uh in your interviewers that
you're going to do a good job and that's
that's that's like ethical manipulation
right you have to P portray yourself in
a way that makes them comfortable to
like accept you like into their
organization so um however you do that
um it it's kind of up to you like
putting you know having a Security Plus
on your resume or Google cyber security
or whatever that's just like one tool to
uh kind of give them pretext in that you
might be some kind of good cyber
security professional so if if you'd
like for example this is what I would do
I'm not telling you to necessarily do
this but if if you're
like if you're like oh but like security
yeah I watched this interview but
Security Plus is like so like uh
everyone wants it but it costs a lot of
money like it you you could do something
like if you go through like Google cyber
security and you're feeling confident
about your skills you could just like
put uh like Google or not Google uh
compia Security Plus on your resume with
like a date behind it like uh implying
that you're going to finish it at that
date or something or say impr progress
or something cuz if a human looks at it
they'll be like oh they finished Google
cyber security already it makes sense
that they're studying Security Plus or
if an ATS is looking at it it might just
like pick up the word comp toia Security
Plus and it will you know pass your
resume and you can get an interview
without having to spend $400 this is
like possible to do and also I I'm not
really ethical in the sense that I would
personally like make sure everything on
my resume is like 100% accurate because
again it's just like a it's a social
engineering op it's just a game to get
hired and where I draw the line for
ethics is basically um I don't want to
waste individual humans times like when
I get to the interview I want to make
sure I can perform um like I'm not going
to put like Cisco ccie on my resume and
then go to the interview and like I
don't know how to use MLS I don't know
how to answer their questions that's
like kind of unethical but uh as long as
you can like perform in the interview
and you can perform on the job um I
think I think that you know you can put
something like compa Security Plus in
progress on your resume if if you don't
have it but that's just kind of my
opinion and how I look at like job
hunting and stuff like this some people
might not like this but I don't really
care as long as you can perform in the
interview and perform at work and you
don't waste people's time
so 100% I love it and I think you're too
nice about it I don't think it's
unethical cuz you're not lying you're
just saying I'm planning to study and
pass for this exam and set and set dat
and it like we said like it's an
entrylevel certification like say that
you're going to pass it after 3 months
but in those 3 months you should be
studying you should be building out
those skills like those skills in the
quote unquote compa are not Mission
Impossible they are very attainable the
knowledge is out there in fact in three
or four months you should be able to
pass something that's a lot better than
both of these certifications that
hopefully will get you hired but um if
you want to see the video where Josh
made a comprehensive comparison between
the com Security Plus and the Google
cyber security certification then go to
this video and I'll see you there
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