Clarke Lecture: How Safe Is Safe in the Treatment of Drinking Water for the Public? - Dr. Trussell

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25 Nov 201329:48

Summary

TLDREl guion del video ofrece una perspectiva histórica y actual sobre la seguridad del agua potable, desde la conexión entre agua contaminada y enfermedades en el siglo XIX hasta los desafíos de las sustancias químicas y orgánicas trazas en la era moderna. Se discuten avances en tratamientos de agua, la importancia de la regulación y la necesidad de un nuevo paradigma para abordar los riesgos emergentes, enfatizando la importancia de la ciencia y la colaboración para garantizar el agua potable seguro.

Takeaways

  • 😐 La relación entre el agua potable y las enfermedades se estableció en 1854 por John Snow, quien demostró que un brote de cólera en Londres estaba vinculado al agua de un pozo específico.
  • 🔬 Durante el siglo XIX y gran parte del siglo XX, el enfoque en el agua potable se centró en el tratamiento para prevenir enfermedades transmitidas por el agua, como la caries y la fiebre tifoidea.
  • 🏭 El desarrollo de la industria química en el siglo XX trajo consigo avances significativos pero también problemas, como la creación de compuestos químicos que persisten en el medio ambiente y en el agua potable.
  • 🌐 La publicación de 'Cierto silencio' por Rachel Carson en 1962 marcó un punto de inflexión en la discusión nacional sobre los impactos negativos de ciertos compuestos químicos, especialmente el DDT.
  • 🔬 A finales de los 1960, las técnicas analíticas mejoraron significativamente, permitiendo la detección de contaminantes químicos en el agua, incluyendo los productos químicos porosos (BTEX) y los compuestos orgánicos volátiles (VOC).
  • 🚰 A lo largo del siglo XX, se implementaron cambios en el tratamiento del agua para prevenir los productos químicos secundarios y se establecieron programas para limpiar las aguas subterráneas contaminadas.
  • 📉 La regulación del agua potable se vio influenciada por la Ley de Delany, que buscaba erradicar cualquier cantidad de carcinógenos en los alimentos, lo que llevó a la EPA a establecer límites de calidad del agua (MCL) basados en límites de cuantificación prácticas.
  • 🌿 La detección de nuevos grupos de compuestos químicos en las aguas, incluyendo medicamentos, productos de cuidado personal y hormonas, ha elevado preocupaciones sobre la seguridad del agua potable.
  • 📉 La tecnología de análisis del agua ha avanzado rápidamente, lo que permite detectar trazas de compuestos químicos a niveles cada vez más bajos, planteando desafíos para determinar cuándo el agua es considerada segura.
  • ⚖️ Se sugiere que se necesite una nueva discusión sobre el riesgo y la seguridad del agua potable, considerando la detección de compuestos químicos a niveles cada vez más bajos y la necesidad de un enfoque precautorio.
  • 🛡️ Se propusieron cuatro directrices para abordar la nueva era de contaminantes en el agua, incluyendo la preferencia por no tener compuestos químicos人造 en el ambiente, el reconocimiento de que este principio no siempre es factible, la búsqueda de mejoras continuas en el tratamiento del agua y la búsqueda de sustitutos para compuestos persistentes.

Q & A

  • ¿Cuál es la conexión entre el agua potable y las enfermedades?

    -La conexión entre el agua potable y las enfermedades se estableció en 1854 por John Snow, quien demostró que un brote de cólera en Londres estaba conectado con el agua tomado de un pozo específico.

  • ¿Qué cambios se produjeron en el tratamiento del agua potable durante el siglo XIX y principios del siglo XX?

    -Durante el siglo XIX y principios del siglo XX, el enfoque fue en el tratamiento del agua para prevenir enfermedades transmitidas por el agua, como la fiebre tifoidea y el cólera, mediante la presión continua, la filtración rápida y la clorazione.

  • ¿Qué símbolo se asoció con el agua potable segura en el siglo XX?

    -En el siglo XX, el olor a cloro en el agua potable se convirtió en un símbolo de que el agua estaba libre de enfermedades microbianas, representando que una civilización había entrado en la Edad Moderna.

  • ¿Cuál fue el impacto de la industria química en el agua potable?

    -El desarrollo de la industria química en el siglo XX llevó a la creación de muchos compuestos que mejoraron la vida cotidiana, pero también introdujo sustancias químicas en el agua, lo que generó preocupaciones sobre la seguridad del agua potable.

  • ¿Qué fue el punto de inflexión en la discusión nacional sobre los efectos de los pesticidas y otros compuestos químicos?

    -El punto de inflexión fue en 1962 con la publicación del libro 'Silent Spring' de Rachel Carson, que demostró las consecuencias no anticipadas de ciertos compuestos químicos, en particular el DDT.

  • ¿Cómo se detectaron por primera vez los contaminantes orgánicos en el agua potable?

    -Los contaminantes orgánicos en el agua potable se detectaron por primera vez en la década de 1960 gracias a las mejoras en las técnicas analíticas, especialmente el Cromatografo de gases y el Espectrómetro de masas.

  • ¿Qué son los compuestos disinfección por desinfección (DBP) y por qué son importantes?

    -Los compuestos disinfección por desinfección (DBP) son sustancias químicas que se forman cuando se utiliza cloro para desinfectar el agua, y son importantes porque pueden representar un riesgo para la salud, a pesar de que se encuentren en niveles muy bajos.

  • ¿Cuál es la relación entre la regulación del agua potable y la 'Ley de la dosis práctica' (PQL)?

    -La 'Ley de la dosis práctica' (PQL) es el nivel más bajo que se puede medir de forma confiable, y ha sido utilizado para establecer el nivel máximo contable (MCL) para los carcinógenos en el agua potable, con el objetivo de ser lo más cercano a cero que sea factible.

  • ¿Qué son los compuestos orgánicos emergentes y cómo afectan el agua potable?

    -Los compuestos orgánicos emergentes son una nueva clase de sustancias químicas, incluyendo medicamentos, productos de cuidado personal, y hormonas, que se encuentran en niveles muy bajos en el agua potable y que representan un desafío para su tratamiento y regulación.

  • ¿Qué sugiere el discurso para abordar los riesgos asociados con los compuestos orgánicos en el agua potable?

    -El discurso sugiere la necesidad de un nuevo enfoque para determinar qué niveles de compuestos orgánicos son aceptables en el agua potable, lo que podría incluir la adopción de un enfoque de precaución, la mejora continua en el tratamiento del agua, y la búsqueda de sustitutos para compuestos persistentes.

Outlines

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🧪 La Seguridad del Agua Potable a lo largo del Tiempo

El primer párrafo aborda la perspectiva histórica y tecnológica de la seguridad del agua potable, desde la conexión establecida en 1854 entre el agua potable y las enfermedades, hasta los avances en tratamiento del agua en el siglo XX. Se mencionan figuras clave como Tom Hawkley, George Fuller, John Leal y la lucha contra enfermedades transmitidas por el agua. La introducción del cloro como desinfectante y la reducción en tasas de mortalidad son destacadas como logros significativos, con el olor al cloro considerado un símbolo de agua segura y un paso hacia la Edad Moderna.

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🚗 El Desarrollo de la Industria Química y sus Consecuencias

El segundo párrafo explora el desarrollo de la industria química en el siglo XX y su impacto en la vida cotidiana, desde el caucho sintético hasta el DDT y otros compuestos químicos. Sin embargo, también se destaca el cambio en la percepción pública hacia estos compuestos químicos, especialmente después de la publicación de 'Silent Spring' por Rachel Carson en 1962, que resaltó los efectos no intencionados de ciertos compuestos, como el DDT, en el medio ambiente. La aparición de contaminantes en el agua, incluyendo los byproducts químicos causados por el cloro, y la respuesta de la EPA y la sociedad a estos hallazgos se discuten.

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🔬 Avances en la Tecnología de Análisis de Agua y Nuevos Desafíos

El tercer párrafo narra el progreso en la tecnología de análisis de agua, especialmente la introducción del gas chromatograph mass spectrometer, y cómo esto ha permitido la detección de contaminantes químicos en niveles cada vez más bajos. Se mencionan los desafíos que representan los nuevos compuestos orgánicos trazables (POCIs) y los compuestos orgánicos volátiles (VOCs), y cómo la ciencia y la regulación han tratado de abordar estos problemas. También se discute la evolución de las políticas de regulación del agua, incluyendo el concepto de nivel máximo de contaminación (MCL) y el límite de quantificación práctico (PQL).

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🌐 La Nueva Era de Contaminantes Orgánicos y el Desafío de la Seguridad del Agua

El cuarto párrafo enfatiza la llegada de una nueva era caracterizada por la rápida expansión de la población mundial y el comercio, y cómo esto está impactando el medio ambiente y la presencia de contaminantes orgánicos en el agua. Se discuten los desafíos de evaluar y manejar estos contaminantes en ausencia de una comprensión científica completa de sus efectos, y se sugieren posibles enfoques para abordar estos problemas, como la mejora continua en el tratamiento del agua y la búsqueda de alternativas a compuestos persistentes.

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🛡️ La Búsqueda de un Nuevo Paradigma para la Seguridad del Agua

El quinto párrafo aborda la necesidad de un nuevo paradigma para definir la seguridad del agua en la era de los contaminantes orgánicos trazables. Se sugieren cuatro directrices para abordar esta nueva realidad, incluyendo la preferencia por el agua libre de compuestos antropogénicos, la necesidad de un filtro para tomar decisiones antes de que la ciencia esté disponible, la mejora continua en el tratamiento del agua y la búsqueda de sustitutos para compuestos persistentes. Se discute la importancia de un enfoque precautorio y la utilización de criterios de riesgo mínimo para guiar inversiones y regulaciones.

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🤒 Los Contaminantes Microbiológicos y su Relevancia en la Seguridad del Agua

El sexto párrafo compara los riesgos de los contaminantes orgánicos trazables con los de los contaminantes microbiológicos, destacando que, a pesar de la baja concentración de los primeros, los segundos, aunque en concentraciones más bajas, pueden tener consecuencias más inmediatas y graves para la salud humana. Se argumenta que, aunque los avances en la detección y tratamiento de contaminantes químicos son importantes, los patógenos siguen siendo una amenaza significativa para la seguridad del agua y merecen una inversión continua en la ciencia y el control.

🏆 Agradecimientos y Reconocimiento de la Trayectoria del Orador

El último párrafo no es parte del discurso principal, sino que es un agradecimiento del moderador por la presentación y un reconocimiento a los premios y a las personas involucradas en el evento, incluyendo a los receptores previos del Premio Clark, a la familia y amigos del orador, y a los patrocinadores y voluntarios que hicieron posible la celebración.

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Keywords

💡Tratamiento del agua potable

El tratamiento del agua potable se refiere al proceso de purificación y desinfección del agua para su consumo humano. En el guion, se menciona que desde el siglo XIX se centró en el tratamiento del agua para prevenir enfermedades transmitidas por el agua, como la cólera y la fiebre tifoidea, lo que demuestra la importancia histórica y continua de este concepto en la seguridad del agua potable.

💡Desinfección

La desinfección es un método utilizado para eliminar o reducir el número de microorganismos en el agua. En el guion, se destaca la introducción de la clorazione como un método de desinfección en Estados Unidos, lo que contribuyó significativamente a la reducción de las tasas de mortalidad por enfermedades relacionadas con el agua.

💡Industria química

La industria química es un sector que se enorgullece de sus avances en la producción de compuestos que mejoran la vida cotidiana. Sin embargo, el guion señala que los avances de la industria química en el siglo XX también trajeron problemas, como la contaminación del agua potable con productos químicos que no se anticiparon inicialmente.

💡Plomo de cloro

El plomo de cloro es un compuesto químico que se forma como subproducto al tratar el agua con cloro. Aunque el cloro es eficaz para la desinfección, el guion menciona que también puede generar compuestos orgánicos por desecho, como el plomo de cloro, lo que plantea un desafío para la calidad del agua potable.

💡Rachel Carson

Rachel Carson fue una bióloga y escritora conocida por su libro 'Silent Spring', que alertó sobre los efectos negativos de ciertos pesticidas en el medio ambiente. En el guion, se la menciona como un punto de inflexión en la conversación nacional sobre los problemas ambientales, incluidos los relacionados con el tratamiento del agua.

💡Cromatografía de gases y espectrometría de masas

La cromatografía de gases y la espectrometría de masas son técnicas analíticas que permiten la detección de compuestos químicos en muestras de agua. Estas tecnologías, como se menciona en el guion, mejoraron significativamente en el siglo XX, permitiendo la detección de compuestos orgánicos en el agua que antes no se podían detectar.

💡Compuestos orgánicos por desecho

Los compuestos orgánicos por desecho son productos químicos no deseados que se liberan en el medio ambiente. El guion habla sobre la presencia de estos compuestos en el agua, como resultado de la contaminación causada por la industria química y la agricultura, lo que ha complicado el mantenimiento de la seguridad del agua potable.

💡Regulaciones del agua potable

Las regulaciones del agua potable son leyes y directrices que establecen estándares para la calidad del agua que se sirve al público. El guion menciona cómo las regulaciones han evolucionado para abordar la presencia de compuestos químicos y microbiológicos en el agua, reflejando la complejidad de garantizar la seguridad del agua potable.

💡Riesgo

El riesgo en el contexto del guion se refiere a la posibilidad de daño o perjuicio, especialmente en relación con la salud pública y el medio ambiente. Se discute cómo se evalúa y gestiona el riesgo asociado con las sustancias en el agua, y cómo la percepción pública y las políticas pueden influir en la regulación y el tratamiento del agua.

💡Precaución

La precaución es un principio que se menciona en el guion como una posible estrategia para manejar la incertidumbre en la ciencia y la regulación del agua potable. Se sugiere que, en lugar de esperar una prueba definitiva de daño, se deben tomar medidas preventivas cuando se identifican riesgos potenciales, lo que puede ser controvertido pero también esencial para la protección de la salud pública.

Highlights

No man does his work alone, emphasizing the importance of collaboration in achieving success.

The connection between drinking water and disease was established in 1854 by John Snow using maps and interviews.

19th and 20th centuries' focus on water treatment to prevent waterborne diseases like cholera and typhoid fever.

Introduction of key figures in water treatment advancements: Tom Hawkley, George Fuller, John Le, and the role of chlorine.

The rapid decline in death rates due to effective water treatment in the US during the first half of the 20th century.

The Modern Age brought challenges such as the development of the chemical industry and its impact on safe drinking water.

Rachel Carson's 'Silent Spring' highlighted the significant consequences of chemicals like DDT, changing the national dialogue.

The discovery of disinfection byproducts like chloroform and the presence of VOCs in groundwater.

The challenge of determining safe levels of trace organic chemicals in drinking water with limited evidence of health risks.

The implementation of the Superfund program to clean up groundwater and the shift in disinfection methods.

The development of analytical techniques like gas chromatograph mass spectrometer for detecting trace chemicals in water.

The presence of residual drugs, personal care products, and hormones in waterways as a new concern for water safety.

The rapid expansion of detection capabilities for trace organics, suggesting a 'new law' similar to Moore's law for technology.

The need for a new paradigm for safe water due to the impact of population growth and commerce on the environment.

The proposal of four guidelines for managing trace organic chemicals in water, including seeking continuous improvement.

The importance of finding substitutes for manmade compounds that persist in the environment and prioritizing those with health effects.

The comparison between the risks of trace organic compounds and microbiological contaminants in drinking water.

The call for investment in understanding pathogens and their control in water, especially considering potential water reuse.

The summary emphasizing that while trace organic chemicals capture our attention, pathogens remain the most significant health risk in water.

Transcripts

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no man does his work alone and I wrote a

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little insert that you all have that you

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can read at your leisure that talks

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about some people that I collaborated

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with while I done my work so I won't go

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through that any any further here I'll

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just if you don't mind I'll just jump

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into my my

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presentation so so in this talk I'll try

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to provide a a long-term perspective on

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the issues we face in making water safe

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making drinking water safe I'll take us

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back in the past to the middle of the

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19th century David already did some of

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that we'll talk about what happened

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since then and then we'll talk about the

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New Age The Next Generation must face

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the title of the talk is how safe is

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safe in the treatment of drinking

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water so the connection between drinking

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water and disease was established in

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1854 by John Snow a noted physician in

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Victorian England using maps and

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interviews of the effective population

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snow connected the collar outbreak in

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London at the time through drinking

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water taken from the Broad Street

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well during 19th century and much of the

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20th century that followed the focus in

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drinking water then was on the treatment

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of water to prevent waterborne disease

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diseases like chera in typhoid fever

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showing the little organisms that that

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we all love that are responsible for

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that here are some early Personalities

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in that effort I've just picked a few

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among many Tom hawkley a civil engineer

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in Victorian England who is an advocate

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of continuous pressurization of Water

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Systems to prevent

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contamination George Fuller who

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developed rapid Sand Filtration to

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purify the water John le the first to

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introduce chlorination in the United

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States to disinfect the water and able

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woman who played a pivotal role in the

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adoption of chlorination Nationwide as

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as we mentioned

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earlier data on the rapid decline of

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death rates in the US in the first half

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of the 20th century like this CDC data

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shown here are often cited to

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demonstrate that drinking water

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treatment was one of the greatest

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engineering achievements of the 20th

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century by the 1960 when I graduated

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from high school it might even be said

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that our Public Health officials took

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comfort in just a little bit of a

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chlorine smell in the drinking water it

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was a sign that their water was free

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from microbial

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disease that chlorine smell was a happy

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moment in fact you could say Safe

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Drinking Water became a symbol that a

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civilization had made it into the Modern

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Age but the Modern Age also brought

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other problems with

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it safe drinking water was only one of

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the great achievements of Science and

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Engineering in 20th century another

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great achievement was the development of

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our chemical industry we invented a lot

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of chemicals to make our life easier

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Dupont even coined the slogan Better

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Living Through Chemistry let me give you

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some examples of the important chemicals

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that were invented in the first half of

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the 20th

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century when when rubber was in short

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supply we invented synthetic rubber we

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still make our tires with it

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today I don't have to tell you how

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important penan is it was discovered in

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1928 but making large quantities was a

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very difficult thing to achieve but by

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1944 uh in the middle of World War II we

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were making millions of doses for our

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troops we invented nylon as since

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synthetic fiber that replaced silk in

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women's stockings Nyon is both tougher

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and cheaper than silk I remember when I

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was a kid my mother you know nylons were

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cheaper than silk stockings but you can

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only wear a Silk Stocking once because

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they were ruined after

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that and nowadays I don't think anybody

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wears

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some

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DDT the miracle pesticide we use it for

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everything for lice pests in the kitchen

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elm disease mosquitoes I remember my dad

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spraying it all over the

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place for me personally one of the most

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dramatic was the herbicide

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daon dond came out in the mid1 1950s

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when I was a kid and one of my chores

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was to pull the crab grass out of our

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dondra

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lawn I spent a lot of long hot

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summer afternoons in that lawn I grew up

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in Southern

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California for me

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personally well

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so then my uncle Amos who was a farmer

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told my dad about

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daon my dad sprayed daon on the lawn the

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stuff killed the grab grass but it

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didn't touch the dondra I was sold on

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the chemical industry as you might

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imagine was quite proud of these

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achievements this ad from penwal in

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1946 or maybe 47 is a good example the

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text in the ad Begins the Great

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Expectations held for DDT have been

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realized during 1946 exhaustive

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scientific Studies have shown that when

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properly applied DDT kills a host of

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destructive pests and is a benefactor to

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all of

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humanity

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and it was

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true with all these new chemicals being

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as powerful as they

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were and with human nature being such

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that it is you won't be surprised that

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not everyone saw it the same way

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chemicals that can produce such

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impressive results were naturally

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suspect in 1962 a Tipping Point came in

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our national dialogue about these issues

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when Rachel Carson wrote the book Silent

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Spring in that book she demonstrated

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that some of the most miraculous of

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these manade chemicals DDT in particular

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had significant consequences that had

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not been

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anticipated Carson's book stood the test

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of Science and captured the imagination

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of the world

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Community it was the analytical sciences

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that brought the issue to drinking

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water in the late 1960s analytical Tech

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techniques vastly improved particularly

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important was the gas chromatograph Mass

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spectrometer using these instruments and

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there's one shown here using these

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instruments EPA conducted surveys of the

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nation's Water Supplies they have found

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evidence of chemical spills which they

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were looking for but more important they

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also found perhaps more important they

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also found that when we use chlorine to

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disinfect the water it caused chemical

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byproducts like chloroform and later on

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vol Al organic chemicals which we call

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voc's were also found in groundwater

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basins all over the

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nation when we found these disaffection

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btics of vo's we faced some important

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decisions on the one hand these

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compounds were found at very little

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levels we hadn't found them until we had

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these fancy

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instruments also and this is important

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the evidence that they represented a

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health risk

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was what I call second order science

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there was no direct evidence or

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certainly very little direct evidence of

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Health consequences from Human exposure

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rather there was evidence in studies

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from animals exposed to much higher

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levels of chemicals and that evidence

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had to be extrapolated across one

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species to another and across orders of

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magnitude of concentration and across

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Decades of exposure in order to figure

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out what what its impact would be

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it' be a long time before this issue was

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settled

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science also the risks imputed were

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generally small when compared to the

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risks that the population ordinarily

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engages in during everyday life the

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decisions we make all the

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time there were also concerns on the

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other side of the Ledger though even

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though there was ambiguity about the

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level of risk where the customer is

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concerned the drinking water customer

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the risk is

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involuntary so it becomes a matter of

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public trust we're making decisions on

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behalf of the

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public also there was evidence that the

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public was concerned about the

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issue and finally some important figures

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in the industry began to Advocate that

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these chemicals be removed Abel wman who

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I mentioned before was the one of the

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most visible of these figures Abel was

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in the late 80s at the time but believe

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me he was still very

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persuasive so there was a lot of debate

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but in the end the nation spent the rest

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of the 20th century changing

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disinfection to prevent disinfection

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byproducts and implementing super uh

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super fund program to clean up our

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groundwaters

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Nationwide so you might ask in light of

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all this fuzzy information about the

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risks of the chemicals how do we decide

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what levels we would

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achieve it's important to understand

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these regulations written at a time you

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can tell I practiced CU it's all

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recorded it's important to understand

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these regulations written at the time

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when the official I look at Washington

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DC was still reflected by the Delany

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Amendment which was an FDA regulation

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that banned any chemicals any chemical

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added to food uh which could induce

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cancer in

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animals so or man man or animals so so

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far

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carcinogens any amount was unacceptable

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no amount was

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acceptable so in the operating this

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environment EPA proposed an interesting

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strategy they proposed an maximum tment

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level

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goal and a maxent level the max level

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was the enforceable level and for

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carcinogens the goal would be zero but

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the MCL will be set as close to the goal

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as feasible but of course there were a

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lot of debates about what level is

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feasible so to help this resolve this

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issue in the debate EPA offered that an

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important consideration determining

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what's feasible would be the Practical

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quantification limit which would be the

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lowest level that you could reliably

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measure so the lowest feasible level for

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an MCL would then be the

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pql so from that time on all carcinogens

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the M the MCL has been set at

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pql in essence through the artifice of

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this practical modification limit we set

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a goal of Zero no contamination can be

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measurable but as a nation struggle to

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address Vault organic chemicals and dvps

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as we went on in those decades to deal

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with it the science of Water Analysis

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continued to advance in 1997 just as we

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approached the end of the 20th century

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German

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scientists uh reported the presence of a

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new group of chemicals in um European

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rivers and streams and then 2002 the um

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us Geological Survey published a

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national uh study showing these same

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chemicals were widespread in US

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waterways as

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well some of these chemicals were

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residual drugs we take to protect our

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health and that we then pass on the

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environment and our urine other these

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residuals of personal care products like

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perfume insect repellant or

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sunscreen caffeine and coffee others

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were natural hormones like estradiol

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or e or synthetic hormones like ethanal

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esile which we take for birth control

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some are sweeteners we use to sweeten up

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our sugar-free soft drinks like um

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sucrose or Ace sulfane

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K now we had a new thing to worry about

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these emerging chemicals occur at the

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part P trillion level a thousandfold

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lower than the dpps and V's we found

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four decades ago again the levels are

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low enough it's hard know the best

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course of

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action as we work to meet this challenge

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it's becoming clear that we're resolving

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it will require resources more than just

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our drinking water industry it may

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require that we build a new consensus

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about what it means to have safe

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water these Trace organic chemicals I

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would

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argue in our environment are harbingers

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of a new age that we're now entering

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this new age has two characteristics

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that are important to understand the

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first is the rapid expansion of the

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Earth human population which is having

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impacts that um are Beyond those we've

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experienced before and the second is

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that even more rapid impact or expansion

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of worldwide

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Commerce as the level of our Commerce

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continues to increase along with our

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population indeed much faster than the

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population increases the detrus of our

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civilization uh will become increasingly

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present in the environment around us

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Trace organic chemicals and drinking

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water are only one form this debris

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takes we see evidence of in the smog in

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Southern California that started to

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appear in the late 40s early 50s we saw

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evidence of acid rain in the

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70s the ozone layer in the 80s and of

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course the global warming we talked

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about earlier

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today but where drinking water is

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concerned it is the accumulation of the

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trans organic chemicals in water that

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has become the big

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issue for the moment our strategy

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continues to be to treat them below the

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levels of detection and we've got some

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great Hardware to do

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it but the Improvement of SC of the

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science of Water Analysis is rapid and

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inexorable so we're able to find this

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chemical detrius our civilization at

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lower and lower levels in increasingly

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at places we've never been able to find

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them before for since

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1970 I would argue analytical technology

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has been the fastest growing area of

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water

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science this chart shows a crude plot of

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the history of detection from measuring

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ter Organics and water during the course

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of my career and well beyond the idea is

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we can make our own equivalent of Mo's

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law so you know Mor was the guy who said

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that the number of transistors on a

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microchip doubles every two years well

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you know you could say say that our new

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law will be the detection of Trace

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Organics drops by half every 2 and A2

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years and so if you plot that out we'll

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be one picogram per liter by the

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2035 one molecule per liter by the end

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of the century I don't know where we'll

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go after

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that so what does it

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mean well increasingly I think we know

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something is there when we don't know

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what it's being there at that level

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means

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so the question is when is the water

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pure when is it

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safe this leads us I think to an

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essential question in this new age do we

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need some kind of new discussion about

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risk about when water is

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safe but we have problems discussing

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risk over the past four decades here in

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the US we have developed them refined a

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formal risk assessment process to help

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us address these unknowns

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scientific reviewers have weighed in

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weighed in many of them U much brighter

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than I many times and a lot of formal

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procedures have developed for testing

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and extrapolating the test data from lab

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animals to people from Days of exposure

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decades exposure from exposure of GRS

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per leader to exposure picr per leader

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and so

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on but our risk assessment process can't

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keep up with the new chemicals being

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generated by Commerce

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the process is too low slow and it's too

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expensive we're finding ourselves with

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an increasingly longer list of

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unregulated chemicals unknown

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significance as a result inadequate

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guidance is presently available to help

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the public gain perspective on these

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chemicals we operate from the

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perspective of

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fear to address this dilemma the

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Europeans have adopted a precautionary

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approach much like the approach we took

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the dpps when amble woman weighed in

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three decades

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ago

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necessarily essentially the principle

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states that evidence of harm rather than

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definitive proof of harm should prompt

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policy but of course it's much more

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complicated than that and too much

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precaution would prevent uh progress and

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we certainly don't want to PR progress

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so the whole idea is pretty

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controversial this cartoon I think does

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a good job of capturing the

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extremes some would say Europe has

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carried precaution to an

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extreme how might we achieve better

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balance I'd propose four guidelines we

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could consider in this new era one I

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think we all have to agree we prefer

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that we we not have these manmade

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chemicals in our environment or in our

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drinking water that's the place to start

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second we should recognize that this

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first principle is not universally

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achievable therefore we need a screen to

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help us make intelligent investment and

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decisions before the subtle science is

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available and third in the treatment of

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drinking water and waste water we should

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seek continuous

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Improvement implementing affordable uh

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broadspectrum treatment technology as

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they become

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available and fourth we should find

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substitutes for manmade compounds that

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persist through our treatment processes

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when I say we I don't mean our industry

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I mean our nation we need to find

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substitutes like we did for detergents

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like we did for C uh

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cfc's but those things that persist on

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water environment and we should give

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priority to those that have demonstrated

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health

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effects I said we need some kind of

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screen to help us guide us in our

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investments I think perhaps the Minimus

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risk would be

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useful place to start with that screen

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of course the problem is that while we

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all agree on the principle of dious risk

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or dominous things there's often strong

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disagreement as to what level of risk is

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in fact dominous so the specifics are

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not something we just resolve with signs

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it has to be decided by some excepted

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Authority a regulator a court of law

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perhaps the national

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eies but there's Reason for Hope our

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Regulators already use a variety of

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diminish criteria in managing

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risk and Regulators also in the world do

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also as an example the FDA generally

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a lifetime risk of one million as

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the Minimus in their

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regulations more than that over the past

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five or six decades the developed world

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has built a sophisticated

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infrastructure of cons uh for the

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consideration of Minimus risk where

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chemicals are concerned and these are

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reflected in guidelines advice

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advisories regulations regarding human

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exposure to chemicals medicines

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agriculture food water in a number of

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different

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areas and they're used by recognized

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authorities like the EPA FDA wh The

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Institute of medicine and it it seems to

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me that perhaps these could serve as a

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launching point for a more comprehensive

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set of the Minimus

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criteria so what about those

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microbiological contaminants we started

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with when we began our efforts on water

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treatment 160 years ago are they

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important

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anymore this chart shows the top eight

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illnesses in the US this compiled by CDC

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all but one are gastrointestinal

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diseases that are that could be

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transmitted by water today these

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diseases are primarily spread in food

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and person person

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contact but it's pretty evident there

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are still plenty of gastro in testal

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diseases around in the population and

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getting them in our drinking water would

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be a great way to spread them around to

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a lot more people and um this is what

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seems like is going to happen in the

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Philippines the next several

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weeks I propose to take a moment to go

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through the exercise of characterizing

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these organisms as Trace organic

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compounds torqus that were designed by

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nature and and try to Prov a little bit

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of of an engineer perspective on this by

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comparing them with the the trace

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Organics that nature has made with the

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trace Organics we've made so this fellow

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was refreshing himself with a nice glass

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of water let's compare how the presence

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of two chemicals might affect him first

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let's look at ndma nitrosol De methyl

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mean this is a man-made chemical EP has

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on its contaminant canidate list

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California's Public Health goal is 3

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nanog per L 3 *

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10us uh G per

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lader so let's compare ndma to the neuro

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virus neuro virus is the most common

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cause this top thing on that list I

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showed you uh the elding 50 the the dose

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that would cause half of us to get sick

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is about 2700 genome copies so say 2700

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molecules now let's put these an

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equivalent basis first ndma 3 nanog is

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about 2.4 * 10 1 1 molecules per

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ler and then neur virus so um in

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molecules that's about it's 2700

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molecules per liter for the ld50 so that

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comes

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to 2.2 * 10-7 GS per

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liter can might suggest we use moles per

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liter now I ask you to note the

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concentrations for ndma on the left are

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about all about 8 to 10 orders of

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magnitude lower

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than the concentrations for for the nor

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virus higher I'm sorry higher

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than higher than the con for neuro virus

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that's that means they're 100 million to

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10 billion times

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different now let's look at the

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consequences first ndma estimates are if

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you're exposed to three NR of ndma and

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you're drinking water every day for 70

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years you're chance of getting cancer

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increases by 1 in a

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million remember your chance of getting

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cancer is about 1 in four

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anyway if you happen to

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be one of those one a million uh your

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the Fate is yours alone the rest of your

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family will be just fine their risks are

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still just one

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four for n of us if you drink this water

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the con ation and with this conation

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norovirus in it you have 50/50 chance of

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48 Hours of acute gastroenteritis get a

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bed we're talking the full circuit thing

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intense vomiting explosive di you'll be

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sitting on the L with your head in the

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sink and in the following days unless

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your hygiene is near

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superhuman several members of your

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family will have the same

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experience so as I pointed out earlier

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by all men measures of concentration

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ld50 for neuro virus is 100 to 10

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million times lower than the con the

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Minimus concentration for neuro virus

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yet the consequence exposure to the

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neuro virus seem awfully

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unpleasant I think this is special

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caution for poal

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reuse if if we believe poal reuse in our

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future and I I believe it is we need to

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continue to invest in our understanding

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in the science of pathogens and their

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measurement and control because it's

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going to be the most important thing we

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worry

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about so let me summarize our old

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Paradigm for Safe Water was to use

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natural water sources unaffected by the

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activity of

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man TR organic compounds we're now

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seeing in our water are har dangers of a

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new age where the growth of population

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and commerce and improvements in endal

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chemistry make that natural water

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Paradigm

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unworkable where to organic compounds

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are concerned we need a new paradigm for

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Safe Water ultimately

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conventional regulations need to be

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expanded to address this sort of thing

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but in the meantime benchmarks might

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exist do exist which might be used to

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develop the Minimus

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guidelines finally it's the trace

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organic chemicals that capture our

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imagination but I think it's the

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pathogens that are the most important

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health risk thank

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you

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I I don't know if I take questions or

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we're

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done if someone has a question be if if

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you do um I apologize won't be able to

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see your hands all I can see is the

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light in my

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face

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questions or

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comments good J good job

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w

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rhs congratulations Clark Prize

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recipient so I do want to uh turn your

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attention to the the card that rhs had

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written and it's in your program

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and what I thought was in interesting

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about the pro the uh the note was the

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number of people that you acknowledged

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uh Perry Perry mccardy Mike Kavanaugh

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Larry Leong Isham n n who are here

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previous Clark prize recipients Jim

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Morgan Charlie Amilia George sabag gloss

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John criten who's here Carrie how who is

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here um but you mentioned your family

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and Liz it's been great to get to know

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you over the years and thank you for

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coming and it's great to have you here

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Shane and Brian thank you and your wives

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Seline and Lindy who haven't met but

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thanks it's good to have you here and um

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I want to uh thank Jim Swindon uh as

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always and Morton Smith it's good to

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have you here representing the

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foundation and your families it's good

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to have you here uh the Joan Irvine

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Smith and Nal Richard G Clark Foundation

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has been a great suppor of NWI for over

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20 years now and we truthfully honestly

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appreciate that support I want to thank

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again the trussle family for attending

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all the previous Clark PR Clark priz

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recipients it's great to have you come

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back every year I don't know if people

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tell you that but it is it's great to

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see you and I want to mention endur

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staff Brandy Gina and Roxanna we

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couldn't do this without

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you we had great support from our

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volunteer students as always you're

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always welcome

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and I want to mention our nwri agencies

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we had a number of board members come

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and that's fantastic it was good to have

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you here so thank you for a great

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evening I appreciate all you coming and

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we'll see you next year thank

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you

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