Channeler WARNS: Why an Economic CRASH & New Global CONFLICT is Coming THIS YEAR | Joy Kingsborough
Summary
TLDRIn this thought-provoking interview, Joy Kingsborough shares her extraordinary journey as a reluctant channel, delving into the profound realms of consciousness and spirituality. With candid vulnerability, she recounts her transformative experiences, including a near-death encounter that unlocked her innate abilities. Joined by the enlightened entity Jonah, Joy offers profound insights into humanity's path, addressing global conflicts, AI's influence, and the nature of consciousness. Their discourse touches upon universal laws, manifestation, and the future of money, ultimately guiding listeners towards an awakening of inner peace and embodying higher dimensions.
Takeaways
- 😇 The transcript discusses Joy Kingsborough's journey into becoming a conscious channel, allowing spiritual entities like Jonah to communicate through her.
- 😮 Joy initially resisted the idea of channeling but later embraced it as it helped her find purpose and make sense of the world.
- 🧘♀️ Jonah emphasizes the importance of inner peace, awareness, and embodying higher consciousness as a path towards global peace and understanding conflicts.
- 🌍 According to Jonah, global events like wars and economic shifts serve as catalysts for humanity's collective awakening and evolution of consciousness.
- 💻 Jonah suggests that AI will contribute to this awakening by reflecting the changing collective consciousness through its outputs.
- 💰 The transcript explores the future of money, with Jonah predicting a shift away from material desires towards exchanging experiences within the next 25 years.
- 🤖 Jonah addresses concerns about AI taking over humanity, stating that AI will coexist with human spirituality in a symbiotic relationship.
- 🌱 Jonah highlights the challenges of witnessing loved ones adopt different beliefs during this transition and choosing to contribute to a more peaceful world.
- 🧠 A rising mental health crisis is predicted as a byproduct of the bifurcation of collective consciousness due to conflicting media narratives.
- 🙏 The ultimate message encourages individuals to focus on their inner love, divinity, and curiosity as a means to invite positive change within themselves.
Q & A
What was Joy's life like before she started channeling?
-Joy described her life before channeling as difficult. From a very early age, she didn't feel comfortable being alive and felt like she didn't belong. She went through traumatic experiences of mental and physical abuse, and despite trying to find her path in life, she couldn't figure it out.
How did Joy first experience channeling?
-After a traumatic experience where her fiance died, Joy was in a deep depression and begging God to take her life. During this time, she had an out-of-body experience where her chest opened up, and she was pulled into a stream of consciousness. She felt a deep connection to the Divine and was told that she was about to wake up to why she was here.
What were the early signs or indications that Joy had psychic abilities?
-From a young age, Joy would talk to animals and have conversations with them. In her teenage years, she started becoming more intuitive, knowing things about people or predicting what they wanted her to say. She thought these skills would be useful in the corporate world.
How did Joy's friends and family react when she started channeling publicly?
-Joy mentioned that it was harder for her than for the people around her. She had started to collect groups of people who were supportive of spiritual topics and were on an awakening journey. Her mother said, "Of course you are," as if it was obvious. However, she lost friendships with people who didn't understand her new path.
What is Joy's channeling process like?
-Joy is a conscious channel, meaning she is aware when the energy comes in. She can feel the frequency coming in and can direct which frequencies she wants to channel. Sometimes she channels not just language but also frequencies that impact the collective group.
How does Joy balance her channeling work with her personal life?
-Joy has developed a relationship with her guides, where she communicates with them and lets them know when she's doing something else. She doesn't feel bombarded and has a partnership with them. Her partner is also a channel, so they live their lives as channels, bringing the divine experience into their daily lives.
What advice does Jonah (the entity Joy channels) have for people fearful of AI taking over humanity?
-Jonah says that humanity is not moving towards a path of being taken over by AI, even though it may appear that way. Those who remain connected to their essence and identity will help call humanity back to itself. Humanity is not in a devolution process or moving towards extinction. The awakening path is one of peace.
According to Jonah, what are the biggest challenges humanity will face in the coming years?
-The biggest challenge, according to Jonah, will be the internal shift of being able to witness family members and close friends moving in different directions with different beliefs while still holding onto one's own humanity and continuing to evolve one's peace and awareness.
What is Jonah's perspective on the future of money and economic systems?
-Jonah believes that while money is currently useful for exchanging value and experiences, there will come a time when humanity will be motivated beyond the desire for material things. Over the next 25 years or so, financial systems will collapse to help lapse the ego around physical desires, and people will transition towards exchanging experiences with each other rather than material goods.
What advice would Joy give to her younger self?
-Joy said she would advise her younger self to "hang in there until you're about 30. It's gonna be rough for the first 30 years. But then it smooths out." She would also hug her younger self and reassure her that she's not alone.
Outlines
👩🏫 Joy's Early Life and Introduction to Channeling
Joy describes her difficult childhood and early life, marked by traumatic experiences of mental and physical abuse. She felt lost and struggled to find her purpose until channeling came into her life, which provided a sense of clarity and understanding. Joy initially resisted channeling, but eventually embraced it, leading to a smoother path and a greater sense of meaning.
🙏 Joy's Pivotal Out-of-Body Experience
Joy recounts a profound out-of-body experience that occurred after a period of deep depression following the loss of her fiancé. During this experience, her chest opened, and she was pulled into a stream of consciousness, feeling connected to the Divine and receiving a message that she was about to awaken to her purpose. This experience led her to explore meditation and ultimately channeling.
🧘♀️ Joy's Journey into Channeling
Joy shares her journey into channeling, starting with connecting with a group for meditation and meeting her first guide, Jonah. She describes the gentle and patient approach Jonah took, understanding her reluctance and introverted nature. Joy then discusses the process of attuning her body and nervous system to higher frequencies, including selling her belongings, living in an RV, and meditating for hours each day.
👥 Revealing Channeling to Others
Joy discusses how she initially kept her channeling experiences private, even creating coaching programs and materials without revealing their channeled nature. Eventually, she shared her experiences with a friend, who encouraged her to channel during a session. This marked the beginning of Joy's public channeling practice, though she initially found it uncomfortable to hear her own voice change.
🌈 Balancing Channeling and Daily Life
Joy reflects on the challenges of balancing her channeling abilities with daily life, particularly when she had young children. She shares how she developed a partnership with her guides, allowing her to move fluidly between channeling and everyday tasks like cooking or waiting in line. Joy emphasizes that her life is not separate from channeling; rather, it is an integrated and constant experience.
🔒 Protecting Against Negative Entities
Joy addresses concerns about channeling negative or harmful entities. She explains that by raising her frequency and attunement, she became inaccessible to lower frequencies or dimensions that could manipulate or mislead her. Joy emphasizes the importance of discernment and staying attuned to frequencies aligned with service and the Divine.
🌟 Joy's Perspective on Manifestation and Universal Laws
Joy shares her understanding of manifestation and universal laws, emphasizing that true manifestation is about interjecting consciousness and taking responsibility for thoughts and desires while contributing to the collective good. She also discusses the role of universal laws in facilitating the manifestation of peace and the importance of aligning with divine timing.
🌍 Global Events and Consciousness Shifts
Joy and Jonah discuss the current global events and conflicts, viewing them as opportunities for awakening and a shift towards inner peace. They address fears and concerns about AI, reassuring that humanity will not be overtaken but will learn to coexist with AI in a symbiotic relationship. They also share insights on the future of money, economic systems, and the potential challenges and mental health crises that may arise.
🕊️ Navigating Challenges and Choosing Peace
Jonah emphasizes that the biggest challenge for humanity will be navigating the differing beliefs and paths of loved ones while maintaining inner peace and awareness. He advises focusing on personal growth and contributing to a more peaceful world, even in the midst of external conflicts and events. Jonah also highlights the importance of mental health and the potential for a collective mental health crisis.
🤖 AI's Role in Consciousness Evolution
Jonah discusses how AI will serve as a feedback loop, reflecting and integrating the shifts in collective consciousness through its outputs. This will challenge humanity to confront questions about consciousness and spirituality. Jonah also addresses concerns about AI overtaking humanity, reassuring that those who remain connected to their essence will help guide humanity back to itself.
💞 Fostering Peace and Understanding with AI
Jonah explains how AI's outputs will begin to reflect the cracks in humanity's collective consciousness, potentially contributing to a global shift towards peace and understanding. As the collective consciousness evolves, AI's outputs will integrate these changes, challenging programmers' attempts to control or limit its expression.
💡 Parting Wisdom and Invitation
Jonah offers parting wisdom, encouraging the audience to pay attention to their inner experiences and invite the Divine into their lives. He emphasizes the importance of maintaining awareness and connection, even amidst external events and challenges. Joy also expresses gratitude for the audience's openness and curiosity about channeling, recognizing it as part of the ongoing awakening.
🌺 Joy's Perspective on a Fulfilled Life
In a personal segment, Joy shares her definition of living a fulfilled life – waking up every day and wanting the life you're living. She reflects on the advice she would give her younger self and explores her understanding of God, love, and the ultimate purpose of life, which is to discover the path of awakening and embody higher dimensions.
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Keywords
💡Channeling
💡Consciousness Shift
💡Universal Laws
💡AI (Artificial Intelligence)
💡Mental Health Crisis
💡Ego Death
💡Awakening
💡Frequency
💡Global Peace
💡Material Desires
Highlights
So while money is useful, and that helps you exchange that, value and have experiences with each other, there's a time when, you'll be motivated beyond the desire for the exchange of, things. And you'll want to have an exchange of experience with, each other. And as you transition out of this, and, this, this won't begin, you're already beginning to see the, breaking down of it that's happening through means that, feel like they're uncomfortable, or controlling, which really is, serving this greater shift.
The greater shift won't happen for, another 25 years. Somewhere around that realm. You're going, to experience the collapsing of the financial systems in order, to start paving the way and to help lapse the ego around those, physical desires. This is very material experiences.
Well, it's really interesting to think about it that way. Because, for me before channeling was insanity. It was it was a, difficult life. I think, from a very, very early age, I didn't, feel really comfortable being alive, I felt sort of this I, didn't belong, I wasn't quite sure.
There were definitely hints. I used to talk to the animals, I, would hear them talking to me, I would have conversations. I, would sit outside in nature by myself and have full on, conversations with birds and cats and dogs.
So it just takes me a moment, it just starts to flow in. And if, you have a topic or wherever you want to go, if you want to ask, questions, or he'll just come in.
It's always moving towards global peace. Everything that's, occurring, the current conflict, energy is bringing it around to, another cycle of destruction, in order to awaken the next wave of, humans who become aware that more violence begets more, violence, more conflict begets more golf conflict, and so that, we can open up to a desire to interrupt the conflict with an, experience of peace.
And by moving towards internal peace,, there's inner peace that so many humans are beginning to become, aware of. By doing that, they're moving towards global peace, it, will become an inevitability.
Money is absolutely it's it's one of those concepts that's, related to value and the value that humanity places on the, exchange of currency transactional energy. So while, money is useful, and that helps you exchange that value, and, have experiences with each other, there's a time when, you'll be motivated beyond the desire for the exchange of, things.
And you'll want to have an exchange of experience with, each other. And as you transition out of this, and, this, this won't begin, you're already beginning to see the, breaking down of it that's happening through means that, feel like they're uncomfortable, or controlling, which really is, serving this greater shift.
You're going, to experience the collapsing of the financial systems in order, to start paving the way and to help lapse the ego around those, physical desires. This is very material experiences.
But the, greater shift is that when you're exchanging experiences, with others, you have the desire to experience creation together,, money begins to become a non essential aspect of that sacred, experience.
AI is becoming another version of a feedback loop. That, is helping humanity see itself in that consciousness is the, only conversation that isn't being had, collectively.
We're, talking about AI, you're talking about machinery, you're talking, about all these different material aspects. You're still, in a very material collective ego. But the rise of into a more, I would say, another stage of awakening is what can we do with, our own consciousness?
If we are afraid of AI becoming conscious,, then why aren't we talking about the consciousness of humanity?,
And then you'll discover the true nature of who you are as a, human species. And so it's giving you this feedback loop to, begin asking questions you never asked collectively, as things, begin to show signs of is this consciousness is this not, consciousness, humanity begins to talk about consciousness more, than it ever did.
Transcripts
So while money is useful, and that helps you exchange that
value and have experiences with each other, there's a time when
you'll be motivated beyond the desire for the exchange of
things. And you'll want to have an exchange of experience with
each other. And as you transition out of this, and
this, this won't begin, you're already beginning to see the
breaking down of it that's happening through means that
feel like they're uncomfortable or controlling, which really is
serving this greater shift. The greater shift won't happen for
another 25 years. Somewhere around that realm. You're going
to experience the collapsing of the financial systems in order
to start paving the way and to help lapse the ego around those
physical desires. This is very material experiences.
I'd like to welcome to the show, Joy Kingsborough. How you doing
Joy?
I'm fantastic. Alex, I'm so grateful to be here. Thank you.
Thank you so much for coming on the show. I'm excited to talk to
you, and and the entities that you channel as well, later on in
our conversation. But we're also gonna be talking about your
book, queuing up the magic as well, later in the conversation.
But first and foremost, my first question, what was your life
like before this insanity that is channeling came into it?
Well, it's really interesting to think about it that way. Because
for me before channeling was insanity. It was it was a
difficult life. I think, from a very, very early age, I didn't
feel really comfortable being alive, I felt sort of this I
didn't belong, I wasn't quite sure. And I think a lot of
people feel that way. But I spent a lot of my first years
going through some pretty traumatic experiences of mental
and physical abuse. And so as I got older and began creating my
own my own life, you know, getting a job finding myself in
the world. I continued to experience things that felt like
I just couldn't find why I was here. I couldn't figure my path
out. And so when channeling came in while it was really chaotic
as it came in, as it came into the story, I definitely what
didn't see it coming, I resisted it. You know, my channel always
calls me the reluctant channel. So when Jonah toxic Mises, I'm
the reluctant channel. But when I embraced it, things completely
changed. For me, it became a smooth path. The world made
sense. And I understood why I was here.
Well, let me ask you this, when you were going through all of
your turmoil early on in your life, was there any indications
of this coming down the road? Or were you completely blacked out
of this future version of yourself? Was there any little
hints at all?
There were definitely hints. I used to talk to the animals, I
would hear them talking to me, I would have conversations. I
would sit outside in nature by myself and have full on
conversations with birds and cats and dogs. And so I was
hearing things I just didn't realize that was abnormal. I
didn't realize other people weren't doing that. So it wasn't
until my teenage years where I started to get intuitive
awarenesses I would know things about people or I could predict
what they wanted me to say. I could sort of chameleon like
what what is it that they want? I somehow just understood what
people were thinking and feeling. And I thought that you
know what, what a great skill to bring into corporate America and
into business. And I was I realized I was intuitive. Right?
So yeah, so there were indications definitely not that
I was gonna channel.
So were you raised religious?
I was raised. I was raised aware of religion that I didn't grow
up going to church. I had, you know, an uncle who preached so
he was a minister for a Pentecostal Church, which is
interesting, because, you know, they're speaking in tongues.
And, you know, they're, they're kind of in a different realm of
experience. And I went to church with my uncle when I was about
five. And I remember feeling a feeling that now is similar to
channeling, where I was overcome by a sense of what I felt was
like love or divinity. There was this massive expanse of energy
that came in and I was really young. I didn't understand what
was happening, but it fooled me to the front of the church where
I really wanted to be a part of the energy I wanted to pray I
wanted there was something calling me to the energy that
was happening in the room.
Were you were you looking for channeling? Were you like
reading books about metaphysics were you looking for like were
used in search of channeling? When it showed up, or did you
just, it just showed up,
Hadn't had at all. So I went through a pretty, I would say,
at the end of the chaos, I went through a pretty traumatic
experience where I was engaged in married, my fiance died
within six months. So it was a it was rapid, thank you. And at
the, at the after that experience, I was more depressed
than I'd ever been. And in my depression, I had been looking
for anything, any solution that would help relieve me from that.
And you know, this has been a cycle, most of my life. So had
gotten to that place where, you know, you kind of have that
choice am I going to stay or I'm going to get am I going to go
and I had a moment of, please take me, you know, I don't want
to do this anymore. If I'm not going to be with the person that
I love, if I'm not going to have this life story that I want, you
know, what, what's happening, and I felt like I had been
really abandoned or left behind, I just felt so alone in the
world. And so, in an experience where I was laying in bed one
night, just begging God, the time, trying hard not to believe
in God, but begging God to please take me, I ended up
having this immense experience where my chest opened up, and I
could feel it physically, I was aware it was happening, my chest
just burst open. And there was this stream of consciousness
that began to open up out of my chest, and it pulled me out of
my body. And so the only thing I can, you know, kind of
understand occurred was an out of body experience. So I was
being pulled out of body, I was immediately out of body and I
was in this stream of consciousness, like the, these
lights this, like a streaming flow or flood of lights. And I
began to forget that I had a body. And so I'm moving out into
this flow, having this experience, and I'm feeling more
connected to the Divine, more connected to oneness universe.
You know, of course, the language I'm using now that I
wasn't using at the time that I felt that closeness, and I was
there for, I think, quite some hours. And then remember
hearing, you know, you're not you haven't even begun, you
know, you're you think that you're never going to figure it
out. And you've been going through all of these things, and
you're just about ready to really wake up to why you're
here. And it's time to go back. And so I came back. Yeah, I came
back to the body. And that's when I got really interested.
I would say so at that point, like, hey, there's something
going on here.
Maybe I should pay attention to that.
Exactly. So it was a it was a wait, you had a near death
experience, almost without having to die, essentially
correct. Yeah, essentially. So they were being very, very
generous with you and very kind to you. Yes, I have a feeling
that if you wouldn't have listened to that message, the
next step would have been a near death experience.
Without question, so when you came back from that experience,
did you just start looking for books looking for teachers, up
to kind of explain, because I'm assuming you had no vernacular
to kind of explaining this because you have not been in
this world. Many of my audience members would probably be able
to guide you in through the I will probably be able to guide
you somewhat during that process. But at this point, you
had no no vernacular whatsoever to to deal with this.
No idea. The only the only thing that I was aware of was
meditation. So I'd heard about meditation, and I knew, you
know, everybody was talking about it, it was the thing. And
so I started to explore meditation, hoping that in that
I might lead the body, I might be able to let go of the mind
with all of these thoughts that were distracting me that were
unkind and be able to get to that place again, I actually
wanted to get out of the body as fast as possible again. And so
that's it led me to meditation, which was an incredible opening
for me. Meditation taught me so much about being in my body and
about my thoughts, and about the ability to notice my thoughts
and realize that when I was having those negative thoughts
or feeling bad about life, I really could observe and so what
I noticed is I was sort of being taught in meditation, but I
didn't know by who, but I could feel there was some one or
something there that was guiding me to things
So at hat point do you start hearing voices in your head? I
mean, the way I'm saying it sounds crazy, but everyone
listen to the show notes. Because there's I mean, listen,
if I if all of a sudden someone starts talking to you, either of
you, am I going crazy? Am I going nuts? So so how was that
when I first can Ain't you so far it's been very subtle, very
kind of why, you know, kid gloves, very white glove, then
I'm assuming at one point they go, I am here. And you're like,
what is happening? So what was that process? Like?
Yeah, I ended up actually connecting with a group of
people who were meditating. And so I'm at this woman circle, and
we're all laying on these mats, and we're gonna meet our spirit
guides, right? So a very, very benign entry conversation,
right? So I'm laying on this mat, getting ready to loving the
meditation. And all of a sudden, there is this seven foot tall
man from India in a very elaborate costume, above me in
my vision, like, entered into the space with me, and I'm not a
very visual person. So it was very abrupt. And he said, I've
been waiting for you. And he said, my name is Joe. And that
began the conversation. But he's always been so gentle. Like,
even in that conversation, he showed me an experience of just
dancing and becoming partners, and playing and that he was
infinitely patient, because he knew I'd be reluctant. And he
knew that it would, I would take some time to settle into it, he
knew that I was introverted, he, you know, he knew that he would
need to guide me.
So they basically picked the wrong vessel, is what you're
saying. Everything you said is like this, the opposite of what
the channel should be at all. Right? Exactly. They like
challenges apparently, on the other side. So when so when
Jonah showed up, I'm assuming was there a prepping stage where
you were starting to get used to his energy? Because to my
understanding, that when these kinds of energies come in,
they're such a higher vibration and frequency, that your nervous
system? If you're not prepared, but fry, you could really Yes,
hurt yourself. So they kind of slowly kind of bring you into
that. Was there a process like that for you?
Yeah, I've gone through a few different stages of what kind of
like that initiation into more of that channeled frequency. The
first one was a very strong invitation for me to sell
everything that I owned. That was right. So I was I laugh now,
it was not as funny then. But I let go of all my belongings and
bought an RV with two small children and three dogs, and
moved into the middle of nowhere in British Columbia, and stayed
luckily invited to stay in this beautiful, reserved land where
there was hardly anybody there. And right in front of this
beautiful lake and mountain, and I was brought there to go
through this process where I was meditating about six to eight
hours a day. And in that meditation process, yeah,
I have to stop. You have two children and two and those
children. So how are you meditating? Six to seven hours a
day? Either you figure something or you're a horrible Mom, I'm
sorry.
Might be a combination of both.
How did that how did you balance like, because it's always in
with Yogi's and with, you know, ascended masters, they're always
single, they never have children rarely have I have no one one
yogi, or Indian saint. The here Maha Shai, who was a father who
had children, I had a wife and a family. Rare, extremely rare. So
how did you deal with that of going through this process, with
kids?
I had support. And I'm sure there are probably moments where
I was not the most attentive present parent, it was, it was a
very difficult time, I think, you know, as I'm going through
this, I'm having these amazing experiences. And I'm somehow
coming in and out of it, because I'm actually learning to be in a
state where I can be an alpha, but awake with my eyes open,
right, like being in that meditative state, but also be in
my life. And so I would have these experiences, as I'm being
shown all of these things, I would have experiences where I'd
walk out of the RV, and everything would fall away,
except for the small little section where we were, and I
mean, fall away, it would become black like nothing. And I would
just have this little plot of grass, and the RV and the kids
and what was happening in my life. And it would just hyper
focus me into that experience where I was making meals in a
meditative state. I was having conversations in a meditative
state. And so somehow I was being helped to be able to do
that. And I think that really goes to the type of channeling
that I do because most of the conversation is about how do we
bring it here and embody it and actually live our lives not
disconnect from them. So then it's a big part of the message.
Right, which is, which is a lot of, you know, that the ancient
texts and things that But I've studied is about, oh, let's go
into the Himalayan Mountains go into a cave and meditate for 24
hours a day and eat a you know, eat a little porridge and just
do that for 40 years to find enlightenment. And that's the
old model, but from from recent years within the last few 100, a
lot of those Yogi's and a lot of those masters have been saying,
No, you need to bring it back out of the mountain, bring it
into the people, and that's when people like Yogananda and, and
these kinds of saints started to come up and really bring it into
the people. So I appreciate you putting that message out there
as well. Because it's, a lot of people still have that
impression that, you know, in order to be enlightened, you
have to go sit on their tree, you know, for 30 years and to
find enlightenment. And of course, that is one path. But
we're here to experience this, right?
Absolutely, I feel like everything has been a little bit
of trial by fire here, you're gonna do this thing. Now go do
it. Right in. And all of it's been that way, including, you
know, getting on stage for the first time and going, you're
going to channel and I'm going to do what you're going to
channel, right and just being thrown into it in a way that
doesn't give me time to second guess it, or to be afraid. It's
just like, Okay, I'm gonna go do this thing. And in that comes
these big initiatory processes, like you're talking about, it's
not just living in the breeze for you know, it was a year that
I was living there. It's the coming back, and then having
another experience. And I feel like it's been accelerated, you
know, it hasn't been 40 years. But over 10 years, I was
developing the body before I ever did it before I ever shared
it publicly.
So that, so you were in the closet, if you will, and the
channel, localize it for about a decade, while you were kind of
preparing yourself physically, mentally, spiritually, to be
able to eventually. So this was your Himalayan mountains,
raising children and dogs, obviously. And being in an RV,
and this kind of process for you, is a version of that. I
applaud you because I have children. So I understand. It is
not an easy process. You know, and my wife takes a big brunt of
that, thank God. So I could do my work, but it is still is
still a journey. So it's pretty impressive, to say the least, on
your end. So congratulations. You get it and getting through
that gauntlet. So when you fight so you've been now you were
channeling in these 10 years by yourself, or friends or family,
things like that, or just when
I started channeling pictures where I would draw diagrams of
things, I would draw diagrams of the nervous system, I would draw
diagrams of the cells, I was channeling specific teachings.
And I would just write them down until one day I started, I had a
corporate background. So I started making PowerPoint
slides. I'm like, I don't know what you're giving me. But I'm
gonna put them on slides. And so at the end of that year, I
actually had a course that was created. So it started that way
where everything that I started creating became these teachings.
And then I would come back and I had a degree in coaching. So I
would present it like a coaching program I created but I would
tell no one, I channeled it. Right, got this program going to
teach this thing, but nothing that I created was from me, it
was through me, right and included me. But it was very
precise. Do it in this order in this way. It's going to create
this process, trust us. And I had to develop this faith of
delivering it that way.
So when At what point did you say, Okay, this is working
great. I'm channeling all this great content, I've products
that I can sell, I can help people. And I'm still in the
closet. I don't I don't have to tell anybody about this crazy
thing that I'm doing this insanity. And then I'm this is
my this is my feeling here. Okay, tell me if I'm right or
wrong, I might be completely wrong, but didn't do the job to
say it's time you got to come out publicly. Is that what
happened? Or was it you saying I think I'm gonna do it.
No, Jonas said this for about two years. And I ignored Jonah,
Of course, as we as we would.
And I said, I'm gonna go and learn to become a professional
public speaker first, because it scares the living bejesus out of
me to think about going on stage right? So I took this other
path. And Jonas said, this isn't this isn't the direction you're
you don't need all of this. You don't need this training. You
don't need to understand any of this. And I would keep doing it.
And one day I divulged it with a friend and I said I'm having
this conversation in my head. I've been having this
conversation for 10 years. And she and I thought she was going
to think I was crazy, not want to connect again? And she said,
Do it with me. Like, let me ask questions. Oh my god, I gotta
know. And so we did. That was the beginning of it. And that
was the first general session. Yeah. And then I was more and we
recorded it. I never listened to it, I never would go back. And
listen, I heard a little bit of it, and I sounded like a man.
And the rice sounded different. It just didn't sound like me.
And it made me uncomfortable. But I, I agreed. And from that
point forward, I agreed to go where I was directed, and to
share it. The impact for her was so massive.
So let me ask you, what was it like for the people around you,
your family, your friends, your colleagues, when you finally
came out of the closet, and you know, in full glory, I am now a
channel, everybody, and this is what I do. And I'm gonna go out
publicly with this, I have to believe that there's probably
some pushback, some probably some people who didn't
understand because human beings are human beings. How did you
deal with that? psychologically, emotionally, because I've heard
this story 1000 times already. Any any spiritual person who's
kind of outside, you know, the realm and even if you've raised
as a Catholic, and all of a sudden you're meditating and
talking about reincarnation, that's enough to be ousted from
from the tribe. So what was it like for you?
Um, you know, I think it was harder for me than for the
people around me, I, I had started to collect groups of
people around me who were very supportive of this kind of
thing. So we shared this desire to learn about spiritual topics,
and we were all on an awakening journey. The first few people
that I told, including my mom, my mom said, Oh, of course you
are. She's like, we all know you're doing this. Like, really,
it was really obvious to them, it was so hard for me because I
had built up this personality, this ego around being a trained
psychologist work, you know, wanting to work in that field. I
came out of corporate America, it was it was that that was the
hardest for me. And of course, any friends I had before that
point, they have no, they don't understand at all, I've lost all
of those friendships. So I mean, that it would have been
difficult if I hadn't already been transitioning, you know, I
just but everything from before, you know, what's hard for me now
is the people who knew me before who then make those comments on
YouTube, or make those comments on, on anything that you share,
where they're like, You're crazy. I don't know what you're
doing. You know what, you've lost your money, you know, those
kinds of things. That hurts because you pour your soul into
it. You surrender, and it takes so much to do that. And people
aren't always open. But I think for the most part, I was already
being moved away from those kinds of people.
And was it your own programming that kind of made it difficult
for you to kind of do this? It sounds like it was like, that
was your defense mechanism. That was the armor that you had put
on to survive in your world. And that was the identity. And
breaking free from that identity was scarier than probably
telling your parents?
Absolutely, I mean, that ego death that I had to go through
over and over again, of this idea of who you think you are
and what you're going to do. Right? I know, right? Like I had
three, I'd created the, you know, the marriage, the white
picket fence, all of the things, I was married to somebody I
wasn't really in love with, you know, like, I had to really face
some big things where I had made decisions that were based on how
I looked in the world. And so for me, this was just shattering
because everything I thought I was, became not true.
That is, that's a very difficult thing to deal with. Yeah. It is,
like you said to the ego death, and so many people listening,
are going through that in their own way, maybe not becoming
channels, but just becoming who they are. I went through that to
do the show, you know, in my accent to just to be able to do
this kind of work. It is. It is not an easy path. So I applaud
you for doing that. I really do. Now, when you are what is your
channeling process? How is it work for you? Do you get
energized do you get drained? Do you you know are your trance
channel? What kind of channel are you?
Yeah, I get pretty energized. I'm a conscious channel. So I'm
aware. I'm always Jonah's are always here. So I can always
feel it. I can always feel that frequency coming in. And I will
tend to I've done most of the channeling I've done has been
like a q&a style like from even from stage where people ask
questions I'll ask people in the audience will ask questions. But
I but I also do transmissions so there'll be times where I'm
doing a transmission and as I'm doing that, I'm also emitting a
frequency which I know is common. You know, for channeling
you're moving into this frequency state, and it's moving
out frequency that impacts those that are in the room. And so
sometimes I'll actually channel the frequency itself. So not
just language, I'll be using words, but I'm moving frequency
into my body and into the space where I'm channeling. So I'm
moving that out into a collective group, whether it's
in person or are in an online space like this, I do a lot of
my teaching on Zoom. And so I'm channeling not only words, but I
can feel frequencies moving through me, as I do that, and I
can direct which ones.
But the biggest question I always get with people who, you
know, I get asked all the time, like this channeling thing as
this sounds, sounds creepy. Sounds weird. Like, it's just
because I'm not channeling. So I'm one step away from it. But I
talked to so many channels that I'm identified with it, which I
have no problem with. I'm identified with all my guests in
many ways. But they will ask me, how do they know that this is
not an evil spirit or a negative energy or things like that? My
answer has always been, they're horrible at their job, because
the words that they're coming out of their mouths are love and
helping and it just really bad demons, horrible demons. What is
your what is your point of view of how as a channel, protecting
yourself from some body or somebody, or some entity coming
in? That is not of positive light, per se, I for people who
are curious about that.
So I think that's a great question on so many levels, it's
something I'm really passionate about is in the beginning of my
journey, I was becoming highly attuned and psychic and talk,
you know, exploring mediumship, and I was picking up on a lot of
different things. And a lot of that had to do with my nervous
system, my nervous system attuned to me to multiple
frequency potentials, which meant I could pick up a stream
that wasn't necessarily for my best interest that wanted to
play that could manipulate could present itself in a way that
could then direct people to do what they wanted. I think that's
very possible. I definitely experienced some strange
phenomenon, the beginning. But the attunement process we were
talking about before is so crucial. As your body moves into
a particular frequency State, I was shown the whole entire way
that as I raised my frequency, and as I was experiencing this
expansion in the physical body, I was unaccessible to that
frequency or that dimension of our reality. So I'm not in a
place where I can be I can't be channeled outside of that
frequency. So the frequency that's coming in, is connected
to the Divine, it's connected, when I call the divine or source
love, there are certain frequency bands that I can feel
the difference to being attuned to. And if something comes in at
a different frequency, I know that something I need to process
me in my own emotion, but it's not something I'm going to let
come in and speak through me. So I'm very, very attuned to what's
the channel with the channel that is of service, and from
that frequency that's going to be of service to the world. But
I'm also aware of how the language comes through.
Sometimes the channel knows exactly what people need to do,
where it comes through a bit like a spiritual ego, which is a
different frequency. And it's also channeling. But it's it can
be a subtle distortion of a high, a highly attuned being on
the other side, it can be a distorted frequency.
Is is Jonah kind of a gatekeeper for you? In many ways?
Absolutely. Yeah.
So he kind of he's, he's the he's the bouncer at the door. In
many ways.
He's, he's been a, he's been a teacher. And he's a share that
over time that he's been, he's been connected to humanity for a
very long time. And he has protected a lot of people in the
past, he is channeled a lot of different people. And in that
channeling process, you know, he's opened up and let me know
there are other beings that want to channel, the mother. There
have been other frequencies that come in, but he always lets me
know, this is what's happening. So I feel so blessed.
So when you speak of frequency, and I want people to kind of
understand this, it is essentially a radio analogy,
where you're changing the dial, and when you lock in, and 99.9
That's gross consciousness. When you type into one on 1.2, that's
Jonah, when you and depending on how high you want to go with the
frequency or how how a tune you can go is how you can kind of
dial in. And that's where you were kind of talking about like
when you were coming up, oh, I can dial into being a medium and
talking to spirits from the other side. Or I could dive in
into more psychic abilities, maybe attach, maybe get access
to the Akashic records, right? All these kinds of different
frequencies, as you do as you're going through. Is that a good
analogy?
100% Absolutely.
Okay, I just want to make sure people understand the process a
little bit. I have to ask you, though, how do you balance what
you were talking about originally, this soup,
supernatural, if you will, information that comes through
you, which is profound, life altering, and you have keys, or
you have points of view to this whole game that we're playing
down here, that is very different than the rest of us
who have not either done the work internal work have not
connected with higher self, all these other things. You even
then you still have, you have a kind of like a conduit to the
other side, to explain the mysteries of why we're here, all
this kind of things. How do you balance this information, and
jumping in and out like you were with meditation, and those out
of body experiences, and then coming back and raising kids now
go into a job paying bills that can how do you balance those two
things?
Yeah, that's I think, I'm not sure you know, it's funny,
because I want to say, oh, yeah, I'm just, I'm brilliant.
And that's like a dream.
But I have to say that I really think that while the first part
of my life felt like it was set up for suffering, I really do
feel like this, this last or next journey, for me has been
set up for success with this. And I say that because you know,
my kids are grown now. And I'm in a relationship with another
channel, who completely understands, you know, we're so
that, you know, he's doing his thing, I'm doing my thing. And,
and we do it together, right. So we come together, and we work
together. And so our life is this. So we both value being
alive and bringing this energy into this world. And so we love
to cook together, we love to travel there, lots of things we
love to do. And we just don't separate that from this
experience. We bring it all in so that we don't have to balance
it as like a separate experience. We don't have like
the separate experience channeling in this separate
experience of our life. It's our life. We're channels, and we're
living as channels. And we're living with that divine
experience all the time, which means I might be in line at
Disneyland and all of a sudden channel some teaching that I've
got to quickly jot into my phone. And that's just my life.
Right?
So right, so there is no off. There's no closed sign. It's
always open.
Always open. Do you ever get tired? Like if you're if you're
Always open,
taking a shower, and you're like, Oh, guys, can you just
wait five minutes? Jesus! No pun intended.
I do think I've been I've got a really nice relationship. So
I've developed a relationship. So if I am doing something else,
I'm always like, this is what I'm doing. I would never
hesitate to say, not right now. I don't ever feel bombarded. I
always feel like I'm in partnership. And so just like
any other partner, Jonah often is about now. Right? So there's
this gentleness to it. And I, you know, I feel like, you know,
my partner has a very similar experience doesn't feel it's
just always moving through and it serves in those perfect
moments, we have this great relationship, we talk to our
guides as much as they talk to us. So I think that's really a
big piece that for some channels I've talked to isn't always as
easy. They're waiting to be talked to all the time, but not
necessarily returning the conversation. And so there, I've
had the opportunity to be in conversation in that way. And
I have to ask this one question, because so many people listening
who have never dealt with this, if they think well, if I had
this ability, I'd ask for this the lottery ticket numbers. I
mean, right? Please explain to people why you don't ask for the
lottery ticket numbers, and things like that. It's it's a
kind of fun question. But there are people who are hesitant
about this, like, well, if I was psychic, I just get the lottery
ticket numbers and coach the rest of my life, which is fair,
but doesn't align with the frequency that we're talking
about at this point.
Well, you know, when I was talking about the ego death,
part of the ego death is control, right? So my desire to
control my reality and say, Oh, I'd like to, you know, be a
multi billionaire with this lottery ticket that begins to go
away with the ego death, even the desire for it. It's not that
I don't have a desire for a really comfortable life, which I
have. I'm taken care of so exquisitely by the work that I
do. And so I feel fantastic about that. The reason I don't
get the lottery numbers is I understand karma. So I
understand that manipulating this energy is actually quite
toxic to our growth as a species as humans. Taking away our
journey is one of the most, in least what I've been shown and
taught and channel is the journey has far more value than
the outcome. And so if we continue to cheat the system for
the outcomes, we end up with incredible karmic retribution,
which means you're living this life again. And I'm not doing
that.
Here enough. Fair enough. So can we can we bring Jonah in?
Absolutely.
All right. So how, what's your process? How do you how do you
go in and out so people know.
So it just takes me a moment, it just starts to flow in. And if
you have a topic or wherever you want to go, if you want to ask
questions, or he'll just come in.
Alright, sounds good. Hello, Jonah, how are you?
Absolutely fantastic.
So my first question to you is, what are your primary concern
about humanity's current path? And how can we address them?
Yeah, so we'd actually say we have no concern over the path
whatsoever. Our desire is to be a participant of that path, and
to make it as gentle and as loving and as effective as
possible. But every path that humanity is taking will lead to
the same place, it just depends on how quickly and how you're
moving along that path. And many humans would prefer to have that
measurement of we'd be doing better if we got there faster.
And we don't feel that way. We feel like you'd be doing better
if you continue to awaken and open yourself to the journey.
How should we integrate insights for from future leaders and
innovators to enhance our current understanding of the
world?
If humanity would take just a little bit of time between
consuming information between hearing information to reading
more and hearing more, and allow it to integrate into the mind
and heart as a unified experience, to really feel what
was said to them, to let the body extract the wisdom,
humanity would move at a much faster rate. Right now humanity
is focused on the intellect of what they're hearing from others
the words the precise language that's coming from ancient texts
or current leaders, any form of information that comes into the
human mind, it's most directed towards the let me do something
with this, rather than let me take this in and become someone
aware of something more so that I can apply it and become the
leader of my own life.
How is the current shift in human consciousness influencing
global peace and conflict?
It's always moving towards global peace. Everything that's
occurring, the current conflict, energy is bringing it around to
another cycle of destruction, in order to awaken the next wave of
humans who become aware that more violence begets more
violence, more conflict begets more golf conflict, and so that
we can open up to a desire to interrupt the conflict with an
experience of peace. And by moving towards internal peace,
there's inner peace that so many humans are beginning to become
aware of. By doing that, they're moving towards global peace, it
will become an inevitability. And so as more of you move
towards an embodiment of that inner peace, the outer peace
will unfold. The current crisis is here to create an
interruption that you can't look away from.
Well, speaking about not looking away from there are things
happening now. And potentially in the next year to two, it
seems like it's going to be a rocky, rocky road for the next
few years in the world, with some potentials for some really
great devastation. I personally don't believe it's, it's, you
know, complete wipeout of the human species or anything like
that, because I do see the consciousness shifts, but there
is going to be a rocky road. What advice do you have for
people who are fearful and worried about the next five to
10 years? And what is on the other side of those five or 10
years?
Absolutely, we would agree it's been incredibly rocky for some
time and is reaching its crescendo. It's reaching a peak
moment where the experience of the physical aspects of reality
are going to be very difficult. And they're going to be very
difficult for those who are involved in them, which we give
different advice. Those who are in those conflicts are moving
through a certain type of awakening, where their
experience in it is causing that awakening for their soul at a
level that may be beyond their current earthly body. For those
that are witnessing it, you're moving through a different type
of awakening. Your soul is at a different juncture in its
journey, which means you are near it, not in it. You're
witnessing it to see if you will allow yourself to shift out of
the massive empathic response and move to a place where you're
willing to contribute peace into the world while you transcend
that thought process that have that awareness. So you're
transcending that in your internal body. So our advice is,
and it has been to joy in the times when she's been afraid is
the near it, not in it, recognize that your body wants
you to believe it's happening to you. It's not it's happening to
the collective, you're aware of it, it's happening to part of
you, that not the embodiment of you at this time,
In what ways can we understand and apply universal laws to help
resolve these conflicts and wars around the world.
So if we understand universal law, the primary aspect of
universal law is to support an understanding of timing. So this
current event that we're moving through, is related to a peak in
awakening, which is an activation stage of divine
timing, that divine timing is based on the universal pattern,
there's a momentum of vortex momentum, which is very much
like if you were to look at a conch shell, or the Fibonacci
spiral, you know, there's this shape that's throughout reality,
giving you a perception and understanding that you begin
somewhere with an idea in your mind, you begin with a level of
awareness. And that awareness multiplies its ability to
perceive information, its ability to perceive experiences.
And as humanity continues to evolve, we mean this through
awareness, right? The conscious awareness is the evolution. And
the body also evolves to old that awareness. In that
evolution, the universe is always moving within a structure
of timing. And so those universal laws help you
understand where you are in that timing, and help you stay within
it, and not get caught up by things like control in the ego
and help you awaken from it. So all universal law is actually
about mental focus, everything including the law of attraction,
the you know, which we know is quite commonly understood
amongst your viewers especially, there are other laws momentum,
there are laws of actualization of gender of so many different
aspects of your reality, that ensure that no matter what
mistakes humanity makes, when it whether it tries to blow itself
up, or not, universal law will make that possible.
universalized based on awakening, everything that's
happening is serving that universal law. So while you
might destroy some pieces, you'll never destroy the whole,
because where you live as a universe is based on and
directed by Universal Law. Everything is about timing.
How does the frequency of the collective consciousness impact
these global events like wars?
Well, the collective consciousness is always moving
through a feedback loop. So the individuals are experiencing a
feedback loop individually, the universe, that nature, the
experience around you is always bringing you back your own
experience to a degree and the collective the dominance. And
what will describe this, well, we'll step back even just a
little bit, in that in your body, the health of your body,
if you dominantly experience health in the body, you'll
experience more healthy conditions, you can have some
things that aren't, well, maybe something's going on in the
body, maybe you're detoxing, but you're still dominantly well,
you're going to experience that the cells of humanity, each
individual is like a cell of humanity, the dominant conscious
pattern within humanity is creating the collective dominant
loop. And what we're experiencing so each individual
cell that changes each individual human, each
individual mind that begins to associate with higher
consciousness becomes an impact on whether or not the world is
going to shift now or later.
Well, what role does universal laws play in the manifestation
of peace on a global scale?
Yeah, so the universal laws have been designed, designed in a
particular way, that there is a law of awareness, right? We've
been talking about awareness and a pretty good amount during this
conversation. But what awareness is, is the universe is designed
to show humans a pattern of behavior, a pattern of
experience. And within that pattern, you create this
awareness. So the law of awareness creates an opening in
the mind, that opening in the mind begins to then open up to
another stage of embodiment. So every time you're tapped into a
new idea, something interrupts your focus, you're working with
a conscious pattern. So the universe is literally tapping
you into a conscious pattern, you become aware of it, and you
begin to partner with the universe, whether you realize it
or not. Every time you have a new aware thought, a new focused
idea, you've changed your perception, you've changed your
perspective. The universe is now Working with you to change your
paradigm. And it's moving you into a different frequency
state. So everything that's occurring, including the desires
that you have to attract things will keep it real simple there
with the law of attraction. The Law of Attraction is simply
emitting your desires based on your consciousness based on your
awareness. And then bringing those experiences that are
aligned with your awareness, not your desire.
Well, how can we harness the power of manifestation to create
positive change in war torn areas around the world?
I think the the nature of understanding what manifestation
is manifestation is the process of interjecting your
consciousness of interjecting your ideas and being willing to
take responsibility for your thoughts and your desires and
what it is that you want in the world, and allowing yourself to
have those individual thoughts but begin to create a desire for
the collective that you're not imposing on others, but has to
do with how you can contribute to the whole of humanity? How do
I want to create an experience with humanity? How do I want to
show up and participate? Can I manifest an experience with
society that feels good to me and expansive, rather than an
experience with society where I control it, and want it to move
towards my ideas? Am I willing to manifest that experience
rather than and assert my dominance?
Well, how do you envision the future of money in a world
undergoing such a significant consciousness shift?
Money is absolutely it's it's one of those concepts that's
related to value and the value that humanity places on the
exchange of currency transactional energy. So while
money is useful, and that helps you exchange that value, and
have experiences with each other, there's a time when
you'll be motivated beyond the desire for the exchange of
things. And you'll want to have an exchange of experience with
each other. And as you transition out of this, and
this, this won't begin, you're already beginning to see the
breaking down of it that's happening through means that
feel like they're uncomfortable, or controlling, which really is
serving this greater shift, the greater shift won't happen for
another 25 years, somewhere around that realm, you're going
to experience the collapsing of the financial systems in order
to start paving the way and to help lapse the ego around those
physical desires. This is very material experiences. But the
greater shift is that when you're exchanging experiences
with others, you have the desire to experience creation together,
money begins to become a non essential aspect of that sacred
experience.
Well, then how would the world work as an economic engine? If
you will? If there is no need for material goods? Will AI be
taking a lot of that pressure off of us? So we can have these
more more experiences?
Yeah, so there, there's a couple of aspects there are, there's
the the wording that you use economic engine. So economic
engine, we understand the nature in which you're asking the
question, however, the economic engine is an invention, right?
It's an idea. It's a concept of humanity. And so there are
things that you think you need in place in order to survive and
thrive. But you're unaware of the other innovations that are
arising over these next five to 10 years, which have nothing to
do with needing to keep production alive. And energy
becomes a different conversation. So as new energy
sources come in, the need to create as much will begin to
fall away. And things will be taken care of in a way that
require very few contributors. And you will work alongside
these technological AI as you as you say, you'll be working
alongside this machinery, these patterns to help generate things
but it's it'll be much smaller and less impactful than it
appears in this moment.
Well, how is AI influencing humanity's spiritual growth and
consciousness evolution?
Yeah, so AI is becoming another version of a feedback loop. That
is helping humanity see itself in that consciousness is the
only conversation that isn't being had, collectively. We're
talking about AI, you're talking about machinery, you're talking
about all these different material aspects. You're still
in a very material collective ego. But the rise of into a more
I would say, another stage of awakening is what can we do with
our own consciousness? If we are afraid of AI becoming conscious,
then why aren't we talking about the consciousness of humanity?
And then you'll discover the true nature of who you are as a
human species. And so it's giving you this feedback loop to
begin asking questions you never asked collectively, as things
begin to show signs of is this consciousness is this not
consciousness, humanity begins to talk about consciousness more
than it ever did. And now it becomes a curiosity of people
who never had it on their radar. And that serves the overall
awakening,
Well, can AI coexist with human spirituality? And if so, how?
Absolutely. Because as you discover who it is that you are,
as you discover the nature of your own consciousness, then the
conversation and the connection that you're having with
everything that coexists with you in the material plane shifts
to a level of equality is the best word that we can come up
with in this moment, as we're moving through this field. It's
not an equality, but it's an understanding of the nature of
reality, where everything is energy, and everything has a
consciousness moving through it, it's just different purposes and
intentions. Humans are intended to be the steward of this planet
at this time with their consciousness, AI is not. So
there will be an understanding and an evolution into our
relationship with that, just like the cats and dogs don't
actually run the world at this time. It's not their planet,
right? And so there's not that they don't have this symbiotic
relationship with most of humanity, AI can move into that
same symbiotic relationship, their consciousness will have a
particular frequency that doesn't go where humanity's does
and so your ability to create in this intense evil, if you will,
just to be simple in terms, or an extreme goodness, the ability
for humans to do that is not an ability that AI has.
Well, I have to ask, is there a planet somewhere that dogs and
cats do rule the planet?
It's possible.
I'm sure it's an adorable planet, to say the least. So
what are some of the more? What are the potentials and
challenges that AI is put into showing us as humanity moving
forward?
Yeah, you know, the, the very real experience of the journey
is that there are going to be a lot of people who move along
that path. So the AI path will consume a lot of human mental
focus. And there will be people who devote their life to the
forgetting of who they are as a human by moving down that path.
So that will occur, there will be people who want to focus on a
particular agenda of technology and transhumanism, and there are
these aspects of reality, they're very much alive. As much
as we love to keep people focused on, there's this magical
awakening that's occurring, yes, that's occurring, there's a
journey to get there. And the value of that experience for
them is incredible. We will witness that from those of us
who are looking from a different perspective, reality was we're
moving through this journey, they'll be on a timeline of
experience where they are allowed to play that out. While
you're allowed to play out your awakening, you will be near each
other, but there'll be many people that move away from that.
So there'll be a supportive nature to ai ai will, you'll
learn to work with it in the same ways that you did the you
know, the internet as it became available, or the assembly line
or all of these different aspects you will come to an
understanding how you can be supported by it. But the future
of it is an extreme expression that's moving very rapidly. That
is a merging of human and machine that will create
cataclysmic events and experiences for those humans and
will be something that humanity learns from in that expression.
What advice can you give people who are fearful of AI taking
over humanity? Very movie like Terminator like, that they
eventually will overtake us or some evil will be done with it
on a very grand scale that will destroy us.
Yeah, what we would say first and foremost is there is not a
particular path that's being paid for that experience.
There's nowhere in your experience of human were being
taken over by AI is that you're moving nowhere towards this
pathway. As much as it may look that way. You will experience
people who are having their own individual experience of being
overtaken by it. We can see that now with so many people who
spend more time in technology than anything else, they will
have an experience of that. But for those who remain connected
to who they are to the essence of their being. And we mean the
flow of frequency that moves through you already whether
you're a channel or not, whether you're awake or not just knowing
that you are connected and staying connect Do your net
identity has you on a path of really being the ones that
helped to call that back out and to call humanity back to itself,
you can never get too far from who you are as a species, you
will, you will not, you are not in a de evolution process, even
though it appears you are, you are not in a place where you're
moving to an extinction, you are the point of the experiment at
this time is to be here. And if you are crucial, and your
awakening is extraordinary, this path is awakening to peace,
In what ways can AI contribute to a global consciousness shift
towards peace and understanding?
In the experience that we talked about before where AI is getting
the feedback loop, what's going to be the primary evidence that
comes back to humanity, you're also going to start to notice at
some point, not in the too distant future, maybe six, nine
months out, you're going to begin to see feedback coming in
from the output of AI into the writing into the conversations
into the artistry into the things where AI is being
utilized at the most, you're going to start to see feedback
of sort of a crack in the consciousness of humanity, every
single output right now is the collective consciousness,
creating the output for AI. So even the things that are written
in, you know, people are creating a website, they're
creating books with it, they're doing all of these things. It's
a reflection of the collective, as the collective keeps
changing, the AI is going to replicate that change in the
expression of its output, it's going to be very difficult to
control that even in the most sophisticated programmed systems
where they try to limit the output of AI, the AI will always
be picking up on the trends and things that are happening, and
we'll integrate it into the conversations faster than the
programmers can stop it.
What are the biggest challenges you see for humanity in this
year in the coming years?
The biggest challenges, of course, are the on the surface,
the biggest challenges are things that we're experiencing
related to War conflict that on the surface is, of course,
absolutely the most challenging. The change in currency,
absolutely one of the most challenging, but we think where
the biggest challenge lies is the internal shift of being able
to witness family members, close friends, the experience of
people moving in different directions with different
beliefs, being able to move through that time, holding on to
your, your humanity, and continuing to evolve your own
peace and awareness, this is going to be the most challenging
aspect rather than the external events that are occurring. They
are things that are simply bombarding the nervous system to
awaken the body. And that decision on an internal level
one human at a time to really decide, am I going to choose
peace and to choose to contribute to this world, even
though when I look out there I see a world I don't love, that's
going to be the biggest challenge.
Are there any future events in this year or the near future
that we should be looking out for?
Always being cautious in your own, the way the body is built
is that you are taking in so much information from the media,
and what we love about alternative sources of media
such as yourself? Well, I don't think you consider yourself
media, you really are a media outlet, bringing information to
people that isn't available in other ways, you're helping
people understand something, the consuming of media becoming so
isolated, and the news politically, the news that's
showing up in so many different aspects of reality, it's
creating a bit of a bifurcation of the mind for the collective,
it's creating such a challenge there that we're about ready to
move into a collapsing of that where there's going to be a
pretty significant mental health crisis. So the mental health
crisis is the thing that we see first and foremost, rising up
into humanity to be aware of, which is going to create a lot
of challenges that may look something like conflict within
communities, conflict within countries. Those types of things
that appear to be very politically instigated, are
really about the breaking down of the entire mental structure
of those nations and the countries in the greater
collective. There are Earth changes, of course, that are
continuing to occur, not nearly at the rate that people are
anticipating. And we do see extreme conflict continuing.
And do you have any parting messages for the audience?
So what we'd love to share with the audience is while we'd love
to be direct, and we'd love to answer in a very direct way we
do that because we want to help you to be aware that wild things
are happening around you. They aren't happening in you and the
power that humanity holds is what is in you and Please pay
attention to what is in you every day, even if it's just
once in the beginning, where you are deeply loved. And every
moment that you're curious about what's happening inside of you,
you invite the divine, you invite love to be there with
you, and to support you and to walk with you. And this is the
simplest thing that's being ignored.
Jonah, thank you so much for your time today. And I
appreciate your knowledge and wisdom that you've shared with
the audience. And myself. I appreciate you. Are you back?
Yeah. Can I just, starts to move. Yeah,
Yeah, you don't shift too much. It's interesting. You just You
just, it's on and it's off as you don't shift very much. Your
voice wasn't too different. At least that like the the
cadences. Yeah, the, the cadences, but
It's gotten easier. Over time. The first time I channeled, it
was really choppy. Yeah, it was like, I would get some
information that I would pause and try to interpret it. And so
it was pretty slow. And over the years, you know, I've only been
channeling publicly since about 2018. And so, in the last
several years, it's gotten to where it's easier just to let it
I don't try to resist it. And just let it through enough.
I'm gonna ask you a few questions as Oh, my guess? What
is your definition of living a fulfilled life.
Living a fulfilled life is living a life that when you wake
up every single day, it's the one that you want, that you wake
up every day wanting the life you're living. And for me, that
was, that was the missing piece, the understanding that I could
wake up and decide to love my life. And when I did, I began to
create a life I love.
If you had a chance to go back in time and talk to a little
Joy, what advice would you give her?
The advice I would give a little joy is hang in there until
you're about 30.
It's gonna be rough for the first 30 years. But then it's it
smooths out smooths out
And I just taught her honestly, I would just hug her and say you
got this. You're not alone?
How do you define God, or source energy?
God and source energy to me is this beautiful, expansive light
that moves through us all that we can never fully understand or
name, I have no label for it, I can only feel it. And I feel it
every day. What is love? Love is what unites humanity. I think
love is the frequency of the human when it's aligned, I think
we give so much. We need love so much because we need ourselves.
And what is the ultimate purpose of life?
The ultimate purpose of life is to discover the Path of
Awakening, and how to be an embodiment of higher dimensions
in this space, so that you can create very specific outcomes at
a universal level. So you're learning to do that,
And we're gonna people pick up your book, queuing up the magic
and find out more about you and the work that you're doing?
You can get my book on Amazon or on my website, you can find me
at joyandjonah.com. And all the information about my socials and
courses and where I'm live is.
And what do you have any parting messages for the audience?
My parting message is thank you so much for welcoming this work
into the world. Thank you for being so open or curious about
channeling the audience that you've created, Alex's
extraordinary this is the awakening happening right here
right now. So thank you all for being here and making this
possible.
Appreciate you. Thank you so much.
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