Navigating the quant trading new grad / intern hiring process

Coding Jesus
10 Aug 202413:05

Summary

TLDRIn this video, Coding Jesus offers insights into the new grad and intern hiring process for software engineering, Quant Trader, and Quant Researcher roles in the US. He covers initial online assessments, behavioral interviews focusing on EQ and fit with the firm, and the importance of preparing for technical rounds. Tips include practicing coding problems, understanding firm culture, and showcasing personal stories and motivations. The video also advises on how to answer behavioral questions effectively using the STAR method and emphasizes the significance of demonstrating coachability, initiative, and perseverance.

Takeaways

  • πŸ˜€ The video discusses the hiring process for new grads and interns, particularly in the US, focusing on software engineering, Quant Trader, and Quant researcher roles.
  • πŸ“ The initial hiring stage often involves an online assessment with timed coding questions or a single non-timed problem to solve and return.
  • ⏱ For software engineering positions, candidates should aim to solve medium-level problems in under 20 minutes and easy problems in under 10 minutes.
  • πŸ“Š The Quant Trader and researcher assessments usually involve numerical sequences, statistics, and probability questions, with preparation involving focused problem-solving in these areas.
  • 🧩 Some assessments may also include IQ-type questions, even if not formal IQ tests, to evaluate logical reasoning and pattern recognition.
  • 🀝 Following the online assessment, there's typically an HR call focusing on behavioral questions to assess EQ and cultural fit within the firm.
  • πŸ”‘ Three essential questions to prepare for in the HR interview are: 'Tell me about yourself', 'Why do you want to work here?', and 'Why are you interested in quantitative trading?'
  • πŸ“ˆ It's crucial to craft a compelling story for 'Tell me about yourself', linking your educational background and interests to your pursuit of a career in finance.
  • 🏒 When explaining why you want to work at a particular firm, focus on the firm's culture, something you've learned about them, and how they've reacted to industry events.
  • πŸ’‘ For the 'Why Quant trading?' question, consider discussing the cutting-edge technology used, the performance-driven nature of the role, and the intersection of markets and technology.
  • πŸ‘¨β€πŸ« The technical interview may revisit problems from the online assessment, asking for explanations and solutions, or present new problems to solve.
  • 🌟 Demonstrating qualities like coachability, initiative, and perseverance, especially for junior or intern roles, is as important as technical skills.

Q & A

  • What is the initial part of the new grad and intern hiring process discussed in the video?

    -The initial part of the hiring process involves an online assessment that may include timed coding questions or a single non-timed problem to solve and send back to the company.

  • What is the suggested time frame for solving medium and easy problems during online assessments for software engineering roles?

    -For software engineering roles, the suggestion is to solve a medium problem in under 20 minutes and an easy problem in under 10 minutes.

  • How does the online assessment for a Quant Trader or Quant Researcher differ from that of a Software Engineer?

    -The online assessment for a Quant Trader or Quant Researcher focuses on numerical sequences, statistics, probability, etc., and may include problems related to these concepts.

  • What type of questions might be included in the online assessment to test IQ-like skills?

    -The online assessment might include questions that present a sequence of pictures to identify the next logical picture or shapes to determine which piece fits into a given shape.

  • What is the purpose of the HR call in the hiring process?

    -The HR call is meant to assess behavioral aspects, such as EQ (Emotional Quotient), and the candidate's fit with the firm.

  • What are the three key questions that a candidate should prepare for during the HR call?

    -The three key questions are: 'Tell me about yourself', 'Why do you want to work here?', and 'Why are you interested in quantitative trading?'

  • What should a candidate's response to 'Tell me about yourself' include?

    -The response should be a concise story of at most a minute and 15 seconds, focusing on how the candidate got interested in finance and why they are pursuing it as a career.

  • What are some topics a candidate might discuss when answering 'Why do you want to work for this company?'

    -Topics might include the firm culture, something learned about the firm online, and how the firm has reacted to industry events.

  • What is the STAR-based approach for answering behavioral questions in interviews?

    -The STAR-based approach stands for Situation, Task, Action, and Result, which helps structure the response to behavioral questions.

  • What are some technical topics that might be discussed in the technical assessment for junior or intern roles?

    -Topics might include data structures, algorithms, time and space complexity, and specific technical problems from the online assessment.

  • What skills are recruiters looking for in addition to technical skills for junior or intern roles?

    -In addition to technical skills, recruiters are looking for qualities like coachability, initiative, and perseverance.

  • What advice does the video give for the final round of interviews for junior or new grads?

    -The advice includes being prepared to discuss option trading, financial market experience, handling stress, and staying updated with financial news.

  • How does the video suggest handling the 'Tell me about a time when...' type of questions?

    -The video suggests using the STAR-based approach to structure the response, focusing on personal actions and the outcomes, whether positive or lessons learned.

  • What is the importance of asking questions at the end of the interview according to the video?

    -Asking questions at the end of the interview shows engagement and interest, but it's important to be mindful of the interviewer's time and not ask too many.

Outlines

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πŸ˜€ New Grad and Intern Hiring Process Overview

Coding Jesus introduces the video's focus on the hiring process for new graduates and interns, particularly in the US, for software engineering, Quant Trader, and Quant Researcher roles. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the process, which typically begins with an online assessment involving timed coding questions. For software engineering, he suggests practicing to solve medium-level problems within 20 minutes and easy ones within 10. For Trader and Researcher roles, the assessment focuses on numerical sequences, statistics, and probability. He also mentions the inclusion of IQ-like questions and advises viewers on how to prepare for these assessments.

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πŸ˜‰ HR Call and Behavioral Interview Tips

The second paragraph delves into the HR call stage of the hiring process, which involves behavioral questions aimed at assessing a candidate's EQ and cultural fit within the firm. Coding Jesus stresses the importance of preparing for common questions such as reasons for interest in the company and the Quant trading field. He provides guidelines for crafting a compelling 'tell me about yourself' story and suggests focusing on firm culture, specific news events, and personal alignment with the firm's values when explaining why the candidate wants to work there.

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πŸ’‘ Technical and Behavioral Assessments for Juniors and Interns

In this paragraph, Coding Jesus discusses the technical assessment phase of the hiring process for junior and intern candidates. He explains that this stage may involve revisiting and explaining solutions to previous online assessment questions or tackling new problems. For Trader and Researcher roles, this could include discussing pet projects and financial market knowledge. He also highlights the importance of demonstrating soft skills like coachability, initiative, and perseverance, and advises using the STAR method (Situation, Task, Action, Result) to answer behavioral questions effectively.

πŸ”Ž Final Interview Insights and Personal Advice Offering

The final paragraph provides insights into the final interview round for junior and new graduate roles, which is similar for both Researchers and Traders, with a focus on in-depth technical knowledge and market understanding. Coding Jesus advises candidates to stay updated with financial news and to be prepared to discuss their trading experiences and market insights. He also mentions the importance of asking insightful questions at the end of the interview and offers personal advice through his Patreon and Discord channels for those seeking more tailored guidance.

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Keywords

πŸ’‘New Grad and Intern Hiring Process

This term refers to the recruitment process for recent graduates and interns at major firms, particularly in the US. The video discusses the stages and expectations of this process, which is central to the video's theme of preparing for a career in software engineering, quantitative trading, or research. The script mentions that the process is starting or in full swing, indicating its relevance to the audience.

πŸ’‘Online Assessment

An online assessment is a timed or non-timed test that candidates must complete as part of the hiring process. In the script, it is described as the first part of the process, which includes coding questions of varying difficulty. The online assessment is crucial for demonstrating technical skills and is a key component of the hiring process discussed in the video.

πŸ’‘Software Engineering

Software Engineering is a field focused on the design, development, and maintenance of software applications. The video script emphasizes the specific hiring process and expectations for software engineers, including the types of problems they might encounter during the online assessment and the importance of technical proficiency.

πŸ’‘Quant Trader

A Quant Trader uses quantitative methods and algorithms to make trading decisions in financial markets. The script discusses the hiring process for Quant Traders, which parallels that of software engineers but with a focus on numerical sequences, statistics, and probability, highlighting the unique skill set required for this role.

πŸ’‘Quant Researcher

A Quant Researcher is involved in the research and development of quantitative trading strategies and models. The video script mentions that the hiring process for Quant Researchers is similar to that of software engineers and traders, with an emphasis on problem-solving skills and understanding of quantitative concepts.

πŸ’‘Behavioral Questions

Behavioral questions are those that assess a candidate's emotional intelligence (EQ) and cultural fit within a firm. The script explains that these questions are asked during an HR call to evaluate how candidates communicate and their potential interactions with colleagues, which is vital for understanding their suitability for the role.

πŸ’‘Technical Round

A technical round is a stage in the hiring process where candidates are tested on their technical knowledge and problem-solving abilities. The script describes how this round involves whiteboard interviews or discussions about previous problems, which are critical for evaluating a candidate's technical skills in software engineering or quantitative fields.

πŸ’‘Pet Projects

Pet Projects refer to personal projects that candidates have undertaken outside of formal education or employment. In the context of the video, discussing pet projects can showcase a candidate's passion, initiative, and practical experience in their field, such as building a black-shoe option pricer mentioned in the script.

πŸ’‘STAR Method

The STAR method is a structured approach to answering behavioral interview questions, standing for Situation, Task, Action, and Result. The script advises using this method to effectively communicate one's experiences and skills, particularly when discussing leadership or conflict resolution scenarios.

πŸ’‘Option Pricing

Option Pricing is a financial concept discussed in the script, particularly relevant for Quant Traders and Researchers. It involves determining the value of options, which are financial derivatives that give the holder the right, but not the obligation, to buy or sell an underlying asset at a set price before a certain date. The script mentions an 'option pricer' as an example of a pet project.

πŸ’‘Volatility Surface

A Volatility Surface is a tool used in finance to represent the implied volatility of options across different strikes and maturities. In the script, it is mentioned as a concept that a candidate might be familiar with, indicating a deep understanding of financial markets and the quantitative analysis involved in trading.

Highlights

Discussion on the new grad and intern hiring process in the US for major firms.

Online assessment as the initial step for software engineering, quant trading, and research roles.

Online assessment may include timed coding questions or non-timed problem-solving.

Practicing for online assessments: medium problems under 20 minutes, easy under 10 minutes.

Quant trader and researcher assessments focus on numerical sequences, statistics, and probability.

Online platforms for interview preparation in quantitative trading.

Sample problem: Probability of getting four heads in six coin flips.

Inclusion of IQ-type questions in some online assessments.

HR call focusing on behavioral questions to assess EQ and company fit.

Importance of EQ in software engineering roles beyond technical skills.

Three key behavioral questions to prepare for: tell me about yourself, why work here, and interest in quantitative trading.

Guidelines for crafting a compelling 'tell me about yourself' story.

How to discuss firm culture, industry knowledge, and personal alignment with the company.

Technical assessment for junior and intern levels, including revisiting online assessment problems.

STAR method for answering behavioral questions: Situation, Task, Action, Result.

Importance of showcasing personal actions and learnings in behavioral interviews.

Final interview round similarities between junior, researcher, and trader roles.

Customization of the interview process by different firms and the importance of adaptability.

How to engage with the presenter for more personalized advice through Patreon and Discord.

Transcripts

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what's up guys coding Jesus here guys in

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today's video I would like to discuss

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the new grad and intern hiring process

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which is really either starting or in

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full swing currently at least in the US

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at all major firms so if you're

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interested in what that process looks

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like what you can expect Etc then I

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really recommend you watch this video

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cuz not only am I going to be talking

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about the software engineering

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perspective but also the equivalent

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Quant Trader and Quant resear researcher

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variants of that process okay so let's

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start off with the software engineer and

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this initial part of the process is

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going to be very similar for all three

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rules the first part of the process what

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you can expect is going to be an online

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assessment that online assessment may

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vary by firm but what it usually

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includes is some sort of timed

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assessment where you have two questions

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lead code like questions you might have

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one easy two mediums you might have just

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two mediums you might have two easys you

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might have one hard problem another

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variant of this is to just give you a

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single problem in a non-timed fashion

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and just say solve it and you know send

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us back the solution whenever you're

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done all right so there's a couple

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different variations here my general

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Insight here is in order to practice for

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these online assessments from the

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software engineering perspective you

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should be able to do a medium and under

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20 minutes and a easy in under 10

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minutes all right that's my suggestion

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now what is the equivalent Trader or

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researcher variance the trader and

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researcher online assessment is actually

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quite similar there might be a bit of

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nuance between them but in general they

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focus on numerical sequences statistics

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probability Etc how do you best prepare

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for that you best prepare for that by

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doing problems focused around those

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Concepts there's a bunch of different

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platforms online that can provide you

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with that sort of interview preparation

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for quantitative trading and let me give

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you an example problem let's say you

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have you know six coins and you flip

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each coin successively Flip Flip Flip

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Flip Flip right you do that six times

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what is the probability that amongst

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those six coin flips four of those end

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up being heads right that might be a

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problem that you might need to to face

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just a sample some of these online

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assessments also include IQ type like

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questions so they're not per se giving

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you an IQ test I know that there's

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probably some like legality as to

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whether or not IQ tests are even legal

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in certain States but they will give you

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like a quasi IQ not really IQ test so

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they will give you a sequence of various

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pictures and they will say well what's

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the next logical picture or they will

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give you some sort of shape and they

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will show you at a various angles and

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they will say which piece fits in this

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shape so you'll need to answer that okay

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the next stage is usually some sort of

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call with HR that call involves

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questions that are behavioral in nature

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and it's just trying to assess your EQ

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and the sort of fit you have with the

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firm what do I mean by EQ well a lot of

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software Engineers you know they might

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be strong technically but they might

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just be really awkward and not able to

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speak to people or communicate ideas

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properly this is where some people that

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are really strong in the tech technal

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side but not so great on the behavioral

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side are going to struggle so they'll

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ask you questions for example like how

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did you how do you know about our firm

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they'll ask you questions like why are

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you interested in this company why you

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interested in Quant trading Etc this

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will apply for all rules so Trader

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researcher software engineer if there's

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three questions that I will tell you

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that you need to prepare for this round

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at all costs it's going to be these

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three questions tell me about yourself

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why do you want to work here and why you

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interested in quantitative Trading it

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doesn't mean they're asking you what's

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your background in quantitative trading

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they're asking you why are you

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interested in this space now let me give

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you a couple of guidelines for this in

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order to Ace this part okay tell me

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about yourself should be a story and it

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should be a story of at most a minute

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and 15 seconds when I say story I'm not

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telling you know recite your life

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tragedy in the history and uh you know

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you were had struggling with addiction

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and battling with no don't do that what

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the story should be about is how you got

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interested in the world of

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finance and why you are looking to

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pursue it as a career so you might want

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to start off speaking about what school

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you went to what program you were in why

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you decided to learn that how learning

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about you know Finance or computer

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science or philosophy in school LED you

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to quantitative trading and how that

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ultimately ultimately LED you to the

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interviewer that's sitting right in

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front of you okay so that's something

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you're going to want to

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do another thing another guideline

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you're going to want for the next

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question which is tell me why you want

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to work for example at this company is

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you want to bring up two to three things

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these two to three things each should be

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related to one of the following topics

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one is the firm culture another is

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something that you've learned online

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about the firm and another thing might

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be about

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the uh industry and how the firm has

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reacted to set XYZ event these are just

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examples you don't have to act follow

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these word for word these are just

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examples now let me give you an instance

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of one of each so for example you might

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have spoken to person XYZ at the firm

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over a cup of coffee and while speaking

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to them you learned how great the firm

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is and y y y and how cool everybody is

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okay that's a cultural point that you'd

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want to talk about that's specific to

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that firm another thing that I mentioned

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is the news right so you read about XYZ

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event and how this firm was involved and

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you thought that was really cool or how

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they handled whatever volatility and etc

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etc the third thing you can do to talk

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about firm firm specific reason why you

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want to work here is go over their

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website watch their videos look at one

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of their videos where they say for

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example um you know there might be a

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talk about why this person loves working

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in the software engineering role or why

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they love working as a Trader or why

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they love working as a

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researcher take the content of what they

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said and say well you know I was

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watching this video online about how Bob

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talked about his transition from a

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Trader to a software engineer and I

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thought that was very inspirational

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because in school I did a transition

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from an economics to a computer science

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degree and understanding that you guys

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value that intellectual diversity and

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being able to to uh mold myself as my

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career progresses is something that I

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think is very important at a firm right

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I think that's a really good answer and

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I just spitballed that off the top of my

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head so that's another example of how

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you can approach that the third question

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that you're going to need to answer is

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why do you want to work in Quant trading

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now I'm going to give you guys a couple

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of good kind of topics to talk about and

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I hope you guys don't all become like

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Android clones of each other that just

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regurgitate this in the interview

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because if everybody's saying the exact

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same answer recruiters are going to be

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like what's going on like why is

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everybody a saying the same thing okay

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these are just ideas don't go ahead and

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copy this and I mean you can C you get

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the point okay what I'm getting at here

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is uh here's a couple of topics one

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topic might be for example that in the

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world of quantitative trading you're

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working on the tip of the sphere of

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technology so you're always going to be

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working with the latest technology which

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is something that might excite you as a

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candidate right that's something you

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might want to be able to speak about

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maybe if you're coming to this from the

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trader perspective you say well I like

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the idea of owning my own portfolio and

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being extremely performance-driven so I

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like the idea of eating what I kill and

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I thrive in environments where I'm under

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stress and I'm under pressure all right

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so that might be something that you

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might want to speak about another thing

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you might want to speak about maybe is

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say for example I'm very interested in

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the cross-section of markets and

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Technology I you know growing up I was

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always interested in the stock market I

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started my own Investment Portfolio at

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the age of 18 where I was able to

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deposit my first paycheck into my RSP or

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Roth IRA or 401k or whatever and over

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time as I started reading more in the

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financial times and the Wall Street

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Journal I started better understanding

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the interaction between Tech and finance

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and how technology can really augment my

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ability to perform in the financial

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markets okay so that's something you

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also might want to mention as well just

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something cool like that I'm just

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spitballing ideas here that's a

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behavioral round once you pass that

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essentially the HR has said like you're

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a normal person you're not some like

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weirdo you you know how to talk properly

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you're able to string sentences together

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because at this point you've already

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passed kind of the the basic technical

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assessment now the actual technical

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assessment comes into play at the more

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senior level you're probably doing a

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round on computer architecture you're

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probably doing a round on concurrency

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but on the Junior and intern level the

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next round is going to be a technical

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round that might involve one of two

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things or both of these things they

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might involve new questions or

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explaining your approach to the current

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questions in the online assessment so

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let's talk about that one first so what

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you might have is you might have some

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sort of whiteboard like interview with

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the team in person they might fly you

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out to the site to speak to the people

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on on that team in person and they might

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go over the technical problem that you

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had in your online assessment and ask

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you why did you do this why do you do

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that what's the time complexity of this

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uh what's the space complexity of that

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right so they're kind of testing your

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data structures and algorithms and

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seeing how you think through problems

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they might also ask you questions that

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are new so here's a new easy problem or

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a new medium problem let's walk through

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it together how do you go about soling

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solving this right so that's something

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that they might do on the trader side

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they might ask you more related to your

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pet projects so talk to me about your

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trading experience why did you decide to

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build this black shs option pricer how

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did you use it why did you decide to

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build this uh volatility surface how do

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you go about using that volatility

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surface to actually generate meaningful

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insights about the market and make

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trades that generate profit right so

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they might go through something like

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that with you if you also are familiar

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with you know shelder nber's option

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pricing and volatility book they might

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ask you like tell when is the options

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Vega the highest when it's in the money

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out of the money at the money Etc so

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they might ask you those sorts of trivia

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like questions they'll probably also ask

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you things like tell me about a time

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where you took leadership tell me about

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a time where you persevered so they're

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not only looking for those technical

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skills especially on the Junior and

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intern level they're looking for

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important skills related to things like

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coachability initiative and perseverance

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I think that's going to be probably one

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of the most three most important skills

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you're going to need on the qualitative

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side as a junior or intern so they're

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going to ask you you know tell me about

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a time where you worked with a difficult

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manager or you had a conflict that you

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needed to resolve the way you answer

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these sorts of problems or these sorts

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of questions is with the star-based

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approach what's a star-based approach

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situation task action result okay tell

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me about the situation High Level under

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30 seconds don't go rambling giving them

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some sort of Shakespearean tale then go

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into the task what were you specifically

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tasked with doing so they have the

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context they have your task now they you

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tell them what your action was so what

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action did you take to remedy the

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situation and what was the result the

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result doesn't always need to be good it

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doesn't need to be like we made billions

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of dollars because of my you know

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heroism it doesn't need to be some sort

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of Grand Story okay it could be as

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simple as the result was actually not

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great but I learned something from it

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right that might be an interesting kind

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of like way to Fram this sort this sort

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of answer and it will show that you're

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genuine and you're honest but don't go

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and and say something didn't work out if

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it did right so if it did work out great

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say why it worked out and say you know

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and emphasize what you did to allow it

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to work out okay because they're

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interviewing you they're not

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interviewing your team so when you're

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talking about that action component

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don't say my team did this they're not

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interviewing your team they're

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interviewing you so you would say like

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the action that I took is XY Z okay at

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the end of the interview uh what they'll

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probably ask you if you have any more

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questions uh if you do have questions

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great uh ask them I usually recommend

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people ask two questions don't go too

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much

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into you know asking like a bajillion

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questions at the end of the day you need

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to be cognizant of people's time and

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that's the general interview process

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that process that final round interview

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for the junior or new grad is very

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similar on the researcher and Trader

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side except instead of asking you about

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new questions rela you leite code like

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questions like I said they might be

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asking you about option trading about

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your experience in financial markets

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about times where you handled stress

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about clubs that you've attended that

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are trading related about your own

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individual returns about news in the

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financial market so making sure you're

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keeping up with what's going on in the

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world right so they're looking for that

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inquisitive that passionate person to

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work

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alongside now obviously I need to caveat

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this because there's going to be

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somebody in the comment section that's

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going to be saying well this firm does

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it this way well great that firm can do

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it that way the bulk or the majority of

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firms follow a certain process and this

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is generalized advice to help you

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succeed in that General process some

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firms might have two technical rounds at

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the end instead of one other firms might

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have three I don't know it depends on

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kind of the way they operate and so

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that's the general advice that I'd give

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somebody now if you're looking for more

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personal advice you guys can follow me

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on my patreon and join my Discord we

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have monthly calls you can really ask

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any questions if you'd like to speak to

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me oneon-one you can do so in my

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calendly link in the description box

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below and if you'd like to follow me on

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Instagram guys I don't answer any Quant

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related questions on Instagram has

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nothing to do with Quant but if you'd

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like to follow my life behind the scenes

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you can do so at the coding Jesus

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