Ordinary 1950s Man Didn't Get The Sexual Revolution But Lived A Great Life

Summary

El guion de la cinta número tres de Melvin Baker refleja la sorpresa y el choque que sintió al presenciar la revolución sexual y los cambios sociales de su época, contrastándolos con las costumbres de su juventud. Expresa su preocupación por las consecuencias de estas libertades, como el aumento de las natalidades fuera del matrimonio y la dependencia del gobierno. Además, critica la homogeneidad profesional de los políticos y la complejidad de las leyes, y reflexiona sobre la falta de legado duradero de los años 60, centrada en su opinión en la guerra de Vietnam.

Takeaways

• 🕊️ La generación de los años 60 fue marcada por el cambio cultural y la revolución sexual, lo que sorprendió a Melvin Baker, quien creció en una época muy diferente.
• 👴 Melvin Baker, al ser de una generación anterior, se sintió impactado por las nuevas prácticas sociales y la actitud más relajada hacia el sexo entre los jóvenes.
• 😮 Él menciona que, en su tiempo, el uso de preservativos y la educación sexual no eran tan comunes como lo son hoy en día.
• 📚 La educación y las oportunidades eran más accesibles en los años 50, con préstamos GI para veteranos y una creciente esperanza en la mejora de la vida.
• 🤔 Melvin reflexiona sobre la complejidad de las leyes y la falta de diversidad en las profesiones de los políticos, cuestionando por qué la mayoría son abogados.
• 🏦 La dependencia del gobierno y el uso del sistema de seguridad social por parte de las personas mayores se mencionan como un fenómeno sorprendente y preocupante.
• 👶 La preocupación por el aumento de nacimientos fuera de matrimonio y las dificultades que enfrentan las madres solteras sin habilidades técnicas para sobrevivir.
• 🏫 En la actualidad, Melvin nota que los jóvenes tienen mejores ideales y están más enfocados en sus vidas, a diferencia de la generación de los 60.
• 🤷‍♂️ A pesar de las protestas y el activismo de los años 60, Melvin no ve un legado claro que haya sido dejado para las generaciones futuras.
• 🎓 La percepción de que los jóvenes de los 60 eran inteligentes pero a menudo buscaban diversión, lo que a veces los llevó a situaciones de riesgo.
• 👨‍👧‍👦 La observación de Melvin sobre cómo las relaciones familiares y el concepto de 'hogar' han cambiado, con un enfoque en la cohabitación y menos estigma asociado.

Q & A

¿Qué sorpresa sintió Melvin Baker al observar los cambios en las actitudes sexuales de la juventud actual?

Melvin Baker se sintió sorprendido y casi shockeado al darse cuenta de las actitudes sexuales más liberales de los jóvenes, lo cual contrasta con su propia época y valores más conservadores.

¿Cómo describe Melvin Baker la actitud de su generación hacia el sexo y las relaciones?

Según Melvin, su generación era más reservada en cuanto a las relaciones sexuales y las discusiones sobre el tema eran inusuales y a menudo se mantenían en privacidad.

¿Por qué Melvin Baker considera que la revolución sexual impactó a su generación?

Melvin Baker cree que la revolución sexual fue un shock para su generación porque introdujo prácticas y discusiones que antes eran consideradas inaceptables o inexistentes.

¿Cómo se compara Melvin Baker con los jóvenes actuales en términos de cohabitación y relaciones?

Melvin Baker señala que mientras que en su juventud la cohabitación era prácticamente inexistente, en la actualidad es común ver a jóvenes vivir juntos, incluso en las universidades.

¿Qué problemasMelvin Baker ve en la cohabitación y nacimiento de hijos fuera del matrimonio?

Melvin Baker teme que el nacimiento de hijos fuera del matrimonio y la cohabitación sin compromiso puedan llevar a una mayor dependencia del gobierno y a una vida difícil para las mujeres y los niños.

¿Cuál es la opinión de Melvin Baker sobre la moralidad de las relaciones sexuales fuera del matrimonio?

Melvin Baker considera que las relaciones sexuales fuera del matrimonio y la cohabitación son inmorales, aunque admite que no es una persona extremadamente religiosa.

¿Cómo describió Melvin Baker la situación de las personas mayores viviendo juntas para mantener sus cheques de Seguridad Social?

Melvin Baker menciona que algunos ciudadanos mayores viven juntos no por amor, sino por razones prácticas, como mantener el flujo de ingresos de las Seguridad Social, lo que él ve como una excusa societalmente aceptada.

¿Qué recuerdos tiene Melvin Baker de la época de la posguerra y la década de 1950?

Melvin Baker recuerda que después de la Segunda Guerra Mundial, las personas tenían grandes expectativas y se enorgullecían de comprar casas con ayuda de préstamos gubernamentales como el GI Bill.

¿Qué opinión tiene Melvin Baker sobre los políticos y su papel en la sociedad?

Melvin Baker muestra desconfianza hacia los políticos, criticando su tendencia a obstaculizar el progreso y expresando su desilusión con los escándalos políticos modernos.

¿Cuál es la percepción de Melvin Baker sobre la diversidad de ocupaciones en el Congreso?

Melvin Baker cree que el Congreso debería tener una representación más diversa en términos de profesiones, no solo abogados, para reflejar mejor la sociedad y sus necesidades.

¿Qué impacto cree Melvin Baker que tuvo la década de 1960 en la generación actual?

Melvin Baker no ve un legado significativo de los años 60 en la generación actual, argumentando que la mayoría del impacto se centró en la guerra de Vietnam y no en cambios duraderos o en un legado tangible.

¿Cómo ve Melvin Baker a los jóvenes de hoy en comparación con los de la década de 1960?

Melvin Baker considera que los jóvenes de hoy tienen mejores ideales y están más enfocados en sus metas en comparación con los de la década de 1960, quienes a menudo estaban enfocados en tener un buen tiempo y evitaban el servicio militar.

Outlines

00:00

😔 La Revolución Sexual y sus Consecuencias

El primer párrafo aborda la sorpresa y el impacto que la Revolución Sexual tuvo en la vida del narrador, quien proviene de una época diferente. Se menciona su desconcierto ante prácticas sexuales fuera del matrimonio y la creciente aceptación de la cohabitación, incluso entre mayores de edad, como medio para mantener ingresos. El narrador critica la dependencia del gobierno y la falta de moralidad en estas prácticas, reflejando su preocupación por el bienestar de su hija y la sociedad en general.

05:23

🏠 Perspectivas del Post-Guerra y la Época de Eisenhower

El segundo párrafo relata la esperanza y el optimismo que surgieron en la década de 1950, especialmente después de la Segunda Guerra Mundial y la Gran Depresión. Se destaca el papel de los veteranos y las políticas gubernamentales como el GI Bill que facilitaron la compra de viviendas y el crecimiento económico. Sin embargo, el narrador expresa su desilusión con la política y la falta de confianza en los políticos, criticando la predominancia de abogados en el Congreso y la complejidad de las leyes.

10:25

🤔 Reflexiones sobre la Década de 1960 y su Legado

El tercer párrafo analiza la década de 1960, centrada en el conflicto de Vietnam y el movimiento de la juventud que lo rodeó. El narrador no ve un legado significativo de esa época, a excepción de recuerdos y eventos como Woodstock, que considera más un festival que un legado duradero. Critica la falta de una verdadera herencia para las generaciones futuras y contrasta con logros concretos como el Acto de Seguridad Social de Franklin Roosevelt.

Keywords

💡Revolución sexual

La 'Revolución sexual' se refiere a un cambio significativo en las actitudes y comportamientos sexuales que comenzó en la década de 1960. En el video, el narrador expresa su sorpresa y choque ante las actitudes sexuales más liberales de la época, destacando que esto era inimaginable en su juventud y contrastando con los valores tradicionales de su generación.

💡Día y edad

El término 'día y edad' se utiliza para describir el tiempo y el período histórico en el que alguien creció o vivió, influyendo en sus perspectivas y valores. El narrador menciona que su 'día y edad' lejos de la de los jóvenes actuales, lo que le hace ver las cosas de una manera diferente y con cierto shock.

💡Prolijo

El narrador hace un comentario humorístico sobre su ignorancia en su juventud, creyendo que un 'prolijo' era un cepillo de dientes, lo que ilustra la falta de educación sexual de su tiempo y cómo las generaciones más jóvenes han abordado el tema de manera más abierta y práctica.

💡Dependencia del gobierno

El concepto de 'dependencia del gobierno' se refiere a la situación en la que individuos o grupos dependen de la ayuda estatal para sobrevivir. El narrador critica esta dependencia, argumentando que las consecuencias de relaciones sexuales fuera del matrimonio, como nacimientos fuera de lazos matrimoniales, a menudo resultan en una carga para la sociedad y el sistema fiscal.

💡Moralidad

La 'moralidad' es un concepto que abarca las normas y principios que rigen el comportamiento humano, a menudo basado en creencias religiosas o culturales. El narrador expresa su preocupación por la falta de moralidad en las actitudes sexuales contemporáneas, a pesar de admitir que él mismo no es una persona extremadamente religiosa.

💡Co-educación

La 'co-educación' se refiere a la educación de ambos sexos en la misma institución o programa. El narrador encuentra extraño que las universidades tengan alojamientos mixtos y que los estudiantes vivan juntos, lo que contrasta con su educación y valores de la separación de género.

💡Esperanzas generacionales

Las 'esperanzas generacionales' son las expectativas y sueños que tienen las personas de una generación determinada para su futuro. El narrador recuerda las altas expectativas de la década de 1950, después de la Segunda Guerra Mundial, cuando las personas tenían la creencia de que podían lograr grandes cosas y mejorar la sociedad.

💡Política y escándalos

El narrador menciona la desconfianza hacia los políticos debido a los 'escándalos' que se han vuelto más comunes y notorios en la era moderna, criticando la falta de integridad y la complejidad de las leyes que estos políticos crean o modifican.

💡Diversificación ocupacional

La 'diversificación ocupacional' hace referencia a la variedad de profesiones y oficios representados en un grupo o institución. El narrador argumenta que el Congreso debería tener una representación más diversa en términos de profesiones, para reflejar mejor la sociedad y sus necesidades.

💡Legado de los años 60

El 'legado de los años 60' se refiere a los efectos a largo plazo que esa década tuvo en la sociedad. Aunque el narrador reconoce que hubo controversias y cambios significativos, él no ve un legado tangible que haya sido pasado a las generaciones futuras, a excepción de recuerdos y experiencias personales.

💡Juventud actual

La 'juventud actual' se refiere a los jóvenes de la generación contemporánea. El narrador nota una diferencia positiva en la actitud y los objetivos de los jóvenes actuales en comparación con los de la década de 1960, señalando que parecen tener metas más claras y están más comprometidos con sus vidas y carreras.

Highlights

Melvin Baker expresses shock at the sexual revolution and the changes in societal norms from his time.

He humorously recounts his ignorance about prophylactics, highlighting the difference in awareness between generations.

Melvin discusses the evolution of societal acceptance, even among older generations, due to practical reasons like Social Security.

He criticizes the moral implications of out-of-wedlock births and the resulting dependency on government support.

Melvin reflects on the strict separation of genders in his upbringing and the societal expectations of his time.

He shares an anecdote about a snowstorm incident that was considered scandalous, illustrating the social norms of his youth.

Melvin observes the modern acceptance of cohabitation without marriage, even among younger colleagues.

He comments on the lack of moral standards in today's society, despite not being deeply religious himself.

Melvin talks about the economic optimism and opportunities in the 1950s, especially for veterans.

He expresses disillusionment with politics and politicians, citing a lack of trust and increasing scandals.

Melvin questions the motivations of wealthy individuals who enter politics, such as the Rockefellers and Kennedys.

He advocates for a more diverse representation in Congress, including people from various professions, not just lawyers.

Melvin criticizes the complexity of laws, attributing it to the overrepresentation of lawyers in legislative bodies.

He does not see a lasting legacy from the 1960s, considering it more of a period of youthful folly and experimentation.

Melvin acknowledges the intelligence of the youth in the 1960s but does not view their actions as leaving a meaningful legacy.

He contrasts the 1960s with the present, noting a difference in the ideals and aspirations of the current generation.

Melvin comments on the fashion and appearance of the youth, expressing his disapproval of unconventional styles.

Transcripts

melvin baker tape number three 1:09 good

something that's at my age I appreciate

believing well there again you see I'm

from a different time and day that much

far removed from these kids but still a

different time and day and I couldn't

believe it I was to me it was like

shocking in a way even though I'm a man

you know they say a man doesn't care as

much as a woman and all this but still

it was unreal to believe that this was

going on oh I'm sorry I thought forget

that now you talked about the sexual

revolution of if you want to call it

that it was kind of shocking to me that

all these things were going on because

my time of day we this was unheard of

you know you didn't talk about these

things like I used to kid around I say I

was 22 years old before I found out a

prophylactic wasn't a toothbrush and you

know we do we knew but not like the the

kids were practicing what we knew so to

speak and I guess they had grown one

step you know each generation goes one

step beyond the next so maybe that was

their way of you know going one step

beyond us in one thing and of course it

shocked people my category you know an

age and everything and it shocked most

of us but some of them even fell in with

it some of the older people even fell in

with it a little bit I don't say

completely but a little bit must be

because even the senior citizens were

living together

to keep to Social Security checks coming

in so they fell in with it really easy

in a way they had a reason you see but

it's no good I mean it's too loose and

too many things can happen a lot of

children are born out of wedlock

and the guy takes off and goes Christ

knows where and the girls left with the

problem with the kid now next thing you

know she can't make it in this world for

some reasons

not equipped with any kind of technical

skills or anything to make a living real

good live anyway so what happens she

falls into the the what do you call it

the framework of dependency on the

government and everything and so what

happens we're paying for it in the tax

structure see so I don't know it's it's

not good for a lot of other reasons too

it's not moral I mean if you're a

religious person is not moral I'm not

the greatest religious person but I

still say it's not moral I mean I

wouldn't want to see my daughter

pregnant not married I don't guess

anybody would I don't like that either

I just see I wasn't born it I I'm not up

with this sort of thing now the kids all

do it not all but they lot of them do it

they live with each other thing even in

colleges the dorms are co-ed and all

that sort of thing it's just strange to

me because I wasn't brought up that way

I was brought up the boys stayed here

the girls stayed there you know I mean I

mean that was it if you wanted to take a

girl I'd you take a girl I'd you want to

go dancing you good take a girl out and

everything but you didn't live with him

I don't know if any guy in my crowd that

ever lived with a girl really in the

hole and in their 20s most of us were in

our 20s and everything and most of us

got married about the same time and we

just never thought about things like it

forbid like one night I got caught in a

snowstorm over my wife shooting my

fiancée at the time got caught of her

house I'm a terrible snowstorm well they

had to put me up overnight so I slept in

the Attic by myself up in an attic I

didn't hear the end of it for two months

everybody said I was sleeping with my

wife in their room you know something

like that but you know it just

that's way things were in those days

they that was a scandal already you know

I write [ __ ] man this guy's terrible you

know me but now they don't even talk

about it doesn't even bother anybody

I noticed the guys some of the younger

guys down at the company I Drive the

cabs they talk about living with this

girl and that girl and you know they get

the phone messages Joanne says call home

right away now Joanne normally you'd say

your wife said to call home they said

Joanne said to call home

so that's not his wife you see you can

pick that up real quick

and they're all doing it so I don't know

it's just uh I guess that started it off

in those days and it just led up till

today and like I say even the senior

citizens have gotten into the act

theirs might be a little different

reason but they're still in the act

you know they figured well youngsters

are getting away with it we can do it -

you know nobody L told and everybody

excuses them because they feel sorry for

them because they'd have to give up one

Social Security check

so everybody gives them that excuse you

know to me but I don't know I just

couldn't do it and I wouldn't want my

see my daughter's doing it either really

well in the 50s we had big ideas you

know people were coming out of the war

in the early 50s and they were primarily

coming out of the war and depression all

at once see because the depression was

still going on when the war started but

people made some money during the war

they were able to buy homes and the

government came up with the GI loan and

that sort of thing for the veterans and

they bought a lot of homes so it started

giving everybody a lift

and people weren't so downtrodden then

people start working on their kids go to

school and you know get an education you

can do this and all the kids went to

school school was cheap in those days

you can get in a lot of good colleges

reasonable you know No

and everybody had expectations they were

gonna set the world on fire I mean I was

gonna write everything that was wrong

wasn't anything and I wasn't gonna set

straight

but uh you soon learn as you go along

that it just doesn't work that easy

there's always those politicians right

in your way that are gonna stop it and

put an end to it some reason or another

I don't know what their reason is or

what the cause is you know why they do

it but it seems that they all do it they

put the skids on everything it's good a

lot of times I don't say everything but

today I'll tell you the truth I wouldn't

look at a politician from five feet away

I don't want to get back close to a

politician five feet I just don't like I

don't trust him I don't have the

confidence in him that I once had years

ago today that well we're getting too

many scandals with these guys I never

heard of these kind of scandals years

ago maybe they were better at hiding it

in those days than they are today

and don't forget the media today is so

much faster than it used to be

we've got television that just like that

you've got all the news you want and

they catch these people May got people

out on the street to catch these people

the thing I don't understand about

certain politicians why they even want

to be politicians you think well good

example would be a guy like Rockefeller

why did he want to be a politician the

guy had everything in this world maybe

it's nigo trip maybe it's power maybe

it's prestige to go along with what he

already had but he really doesn't need

it the Kennedys don't need it I mean you

know it's just odd the way that we get

our politicians where they come from I

think in the Congress I don't know what

the percentage is but it must be around

80 or 90% of them are lawyers and they

claim that you have to be a lawyer to be

in Congress to figure out the laws and

so forth I still maintain that we should

have a better cross-section of the

people in Congress that we should have

more diversified type occupations

representing the people in the country I

mean I don't see any carpenters up in

Congress I don't see any cab drivers up

here that's for sure and I think they

could be taught to handle the routine of

Congress and everything maybe with a

little more practical sense too and see

the original forefathers when you look

at their occupations they were what

farmers mechanics doctor here and there

and different things like that they were

well diverse to us few ministers of

different faiths they were scattered out

you know it was more of a broad section

of the population and now they're all

lawyers and lawyers think in terms of

law and legality and real comp they make

everything so complicated and I think

that's the trouble with some of our laws

are so complicated we can't figure them

out you need another lawyer to figure

out what the other lawyers

doing do you see anywhere in effect of

the 60s on us today the kind of country

we are today what kind of legacy do you

see it's left I'll be honest with you I

don't see any legacy that they did leave

I mean the 60s they had their

controversy but I think basically all

it's centered around was the Vietnamese

war

I honestly believe that that was the old

cruxit a thing at that time and they

made up all their folk music and all the

other things that they did it all

centered around that Vietnamese war they

didn't want to go in the Army or the

Navy whatever it might have been but

these guys the men didn't want to go

into service which like I said I can't

blame him in a way because it was a

lousy war we should have been in it but

I think that's what the crux of the 60s

was about as far as leaving us anything

today I don't think they left us a thing

but memories that we remember all these

things

Woodstock like I said before that was

played up big units I think they just

had the anniversary of it or something

like that and I mean what was it I mean

he's just a good party it was like a big

party for a lot of them and that doesn't

leave any legacy I mean that's not a

legacy to me a legacy is when Franklin

Roosevelt the vote devised the Social

Security Act

that's a legacy he handed something down

to the next generations and you have

something concrete that you know you can

hold on to but I don't see where the

sixties were a big thing for legacy you

know to hand down to this generation or

this time and day I just don't see it I

don't see anything it shows today from

that period kind of a youthful folly and

experimentation or do you can you see

some good good parts of it well yeah I I

see the kids really we're intelligent

kids they weren't dummies don't get me

wrong I mean a lot of wars in colleges

and things you know going to school but

uh they were out for a good time a lot

of them I mean you know just like any

college kid what are they

used to go to Fort Lauderdale in the

spring break and he'd tear the place

apart

that's a lark you know I mean but the

salm were all net but they were

intelligent enough to know what they

were doing a lot of them and they had

their leaders than what was at the

Chicago seven was that one bunch or

something you know I forgot all their

names and Hofmann and that's the name

sticks out for some reason Abbie Hoffman

but I think he was just in the news

recently maybe that's what it is

but these people you know they they were

the less you know leading these up the

troops on and the troops were like

cannon fodder you know they just went

anywhere they were told for the most

part hey they're the ones that got it

bad and and leaders you know they did

nothing happened to these guys they went

to jail some of them but yeah what's

there to go into jail nowadays you go to

a country club up north somewhere and

they stick a pair with guys like used to

be like huffing them people they they

they don't do time they they they pass

time away in jail you see and these guys

nothing happened and like I say it

didn't leave and it didn't carry on to

another generation or anything it's just

the only thing it carried on maybe is

that the kids some of the kids today

still like to dress goofy like yet

I call it goofy because I can't stand to

see a kid with hair straight up in the

air painted pink purple and blue I mean

it me what that means and I might be a

little jealous cuz I don't have that

much hair too I mean that might be one

of the reasons but no I I don't think it

left anything for this generation I see

this generation of young people being a

little different I see them taking more

of an active pardon going on they're not

as sloppy as those kids we're have

better ideals about what they want to do

with their lives they seem to be aiming

somewhere for the most part I think

these kids today are doing a lot better

than they did in the sixties really so I

don't see anything left over from he

said that will affect these kids that's

it oh my god