Putin’s most insane moments in Tucker Carlson interview

Times Radio
9 Feb 202408:59

Summary

TLDRIn the transcript, Putin denies Russian territorial ambitions, saying invading Poland or elsewhere makes no sense as Russia lacks interest. He accuses Ukraine's leader of Nazi ties and refusing to negotiate peace. On Nord Stream, Putin alleges 'who is interested and capable' applies, implicating but not explicitly naming Western interests. He admits detaining a US journalist to possibly exchange. Overall Putin projects Russian strength and blames the West while allowing some openness on selected issues.

Takeaways

  • 😡 Putin accuses Ukraine's government of supporting neo-Nazism and wants to prohibit such movements
  • 😟 Putin claims Russia has no territorial interests beyond Ukraine
  • 💣 Putin alleges Western countries blew up Nord Stream pipelines
  • 😠 Putin says proving Russia's accusations against the West is difficult due to their control of global media
  • 🤝 Putin says Ukraine previously agreed to Russia's terms but later backtracked under Western pressure
  • ⏳ Putin says Russia remains open to negotiations if Ukraine cancels its decree prohibiting talks
  • 😐 Putin neither confirms nor denies holding US journalist Evan gersovitz hostage
  • 😕 Putin suggests exchanging gersovitz for concessions from the US
  • 🤔 Putin implies Russian intelligence agencies are negotiating gersovitz's release behind the scenes
  • 🙏 Putin says an agreement on releasing gersovitz could be reached if the US takes 'reciprocal steps'

Q & A

  • What is the main aim mentioned in the script that has not yet been achieved?

    -The main aim mentioned that has not yet been achieved is the denazification, specifically the prohibition of Neo-Nazi movements.

  • What does the script imply about the Ukrainian president's actions in Canada?

    -The script implies that the Ukrainian president, during his visit to Canada, applauded a man who served in the SS troops during World War II, suggesting a controversial stance on historical figures associated with Nazism.

  • What is the speaker's stance on the possibility of Russian troops being sent to Poland?

    -The speaker states that Russian troops would only be sent to Poland if Poland attacks Russia, emphasizing that Russia has no interest in Poland or similar territorial ambitions.

  • According to the script, what is the speaker's view on the likelihood of a global war involving Russia?

    -The speaker believes that the possibility of Russia getting involved in a global war is against common sense, as such a war would bring humanity to the brink of destruction.

  • What is the speaker's perspective on the use of nuclear weapons by Russia?

    -The speaker dismisses the idea that Russia would use tactical nuclear weapons, implying that such fears are used to extort money from U.S. and European taxpayers.

  • Who does the speaker suggest might be responsible for the Nord Stream pipeline explosion?

    -The speaker suggests that entities with both the interest and capability, such as NATO, the U.S. CIA, or Western powers, might be responsible for the Nord Stream pipeline explosion.

  • What challenge does the speaker mention in presenting evidence against the West in the context of propaganda?

    -The speaker mentions the difficulty in presenting evidence against the West due to the control of global media by the United States and large European media being ultimately owned by American financial institutions.

  • What is the speaker's view on the possibility of resuming negotiations with Ukraine?

    -The speaker suggests that negotiations with Ukraine could resume if the Ukrainian president cancels his decree prohibiting negotiations, implying openness to dialogue.

  • What is indicated about Evan Gershovitz's situation?

    -Evan Gershovitz, a Wall Street Journal reporter, has been imprisoned for almost a year, and the script implies there might be conditions for his release involving reciprocal actions by 'partners'.

  • What does the speaker say about reciprocal gestures in international relations?

    -The speaker notes that despite Russia's numerous gestures of goodwill, they have not seen similar reciprocation from their partners, suggesting a perceived imbalance in international relations.

Outlines

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😈 Accusations of Nazism in Ukraine's Leadership

Paragraph 1 discusses accusations of Nazism in Ukraine's current leadership. It references a Canadian Parliament event honoring a Ukrainian man who served in Hitler's SS troops during WWII and killed Russians and Jews. The paragraph also mentions President Zelenskyy's Jewish heritage and questions how Ukraine can allow glorification of Nazism given this.

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🤔 Evidence of Western Involvement in Nord Stream Explosions

Paragraph 2 talks about the Nord Stream pipeline explosions. When asked if he has evidence NATO or the CIA were involved, Putin says while he won't share details, analysts should look for who had interest and capability to carry out such an attack. He implies the West meets both criteria but admits Russia likely can't win the propaganda war to convince the world.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Nazification

Putin refers to the 'nazification' of Ukraine, meaning the rise and tolerance of neo-Nazi movements there. He uses this to justify Russia's invasion, claiming the aim is to prohibit these far-right groups. However, the existence and influence of such groups in Ukraine is often exaggerated by Russian propaganda.

💡Territorial aims

When asked if he would be satisfied with only the territory Russia has captured in Ukraine so far, Putin unequivocally denies having any further territorial ambitions across Europe. He argues that trying to take more land would go against Russia's interests and common sense.

💡Nord Stream explosions

Putin directly accuses the West and US intelligence of being behind the Nord Stream pipeline explosions, likely as an attempt to frame Russia. However, he admits having no concrete evidence, only suspicions based on motives and capabilities.

💡Global war

Putin states plainly that Russia has no intention of provoking a wider global war, as that would bring humanity to the brink of destruction. This seems to contradict Western narratives about his supposed aim of reviving the Soviet empire.

💡Weakening Russia

An interesting admission - Putin claims the West is trying to weaken Russia as much as possible through the war in Ukraine. This suggests the conflict is viewed more as a bid to diminish Russia's power rather than solely a defense of Ukraine.

💡Reciprocity

When asked about a potential prisoner exchange for a jailed American journalist, Putin says Russia has shown much goodwill without reciprocity from the West. However, he indicates an exchange could still happen if the US takes 'reciprocal steps'.

💡Propaganda

Putin argues that it's very difficult for Russia to win the propaganda war against the US due to America's control over global media. This seems to implicitly acknowledge Russia's struggles to control the narrative around the Ukraine invasion.

💡Negotiations

Despite earlier failed attempts, Putin claims Russia remains open to negotiate with Ukraine. However, the ball is portrayed as being in Ukraine's court to make the next move towards talks by reversing its decree prohibiting negotiations.

💡Evidence

At multiple points, Putin claims Western accusations lack concrete evidence - whether regarding Russia's territorial ambitions, the Nord Stream explosions, or alleged war crimes. Russia is portrayed as the reasonable party simply asking to 'see the evidence'.

💡Decency

When asked about a prisoner exchange, Putin argues Russia has shown much goodwill and 'decency' without reciprocity from the West. Framing the move as 'decent' suggests a contrast between Russia's reasonableness and others' hostility.

Highlights

Claims NATO and the West blew up Nord Stream pipelines

Says Ukraine has not achieved its aims of prohibiting neo-Nazi movements

Notes Ukrainian parliament applauded a man who served in the SS and killed Russians and Jews

Says Russia has no territorial interests in Poland or elsewhere in Europe

Claims a global war would bring humanity to the brink of destruction

Accuses the West of trying to weaken Russia in the war in Ukraine

Says it's clear to the whole world who blew up Nord Stream

Notes Ukraine agreed to a negotiated settlement but was dissuaded by the UK

Says Ukraine issued a decree prohibiting negotiations with Russia

Willing to release jailed US journalist as a goodwill gesture if US reciprocates

Says prisoner exchange must be discussed between intelligence agencies first

Accuses the US of controlling global media narratives

Claims US media is ultimately owned by American financial institutions

Says shining a spotlight on Russia's information sources won't achieve results

Notes that even American analysts openly discuss who blew up Nord Stream

Transcripts

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who blew up

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nordstream you for sure I was busy that

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day I mean have you achieved your

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aims uh no we haven't achieved our aims

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yet because one of them is the

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nazification this means the prohibition

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of all kinds of Neo-Nazi movements this

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is one of the problems that we discussed

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during the negotiation process which and

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inul early this

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year would you be satisfied with the

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territory that you have

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now I will finish answering the question

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you just asked a question about

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neo-nazism and the nazification

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look the president of Ukraine visited

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Canada the story is well known but being

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silenced in the Western Country

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the Canadian Parliament introduced a man

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who as the speaker of the parliament

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said fought against the Russians during

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the World War II well who fought against

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the Russians during the World War II

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Hitler and his

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accomplices it turned out that this man

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served in the SS troops he personally

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killed Russians bus and

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Jews the S troops consisted of Ukrainian

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nationalists who did this dirty work the

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president Ukraine stood up with the

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entire parliament of Canada and

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applauded this man how can this be

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imagined the president of Ukraine

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himself by the way is a Jew by

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nationality really my question is what

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do you do about it I mean Hitler's been

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dead for 80 years Nazi Germany no longer

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exists and so true and so I think what

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you're saying is you want to extinguish

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or at least control Ukrainian

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nationalism but how how do you do

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that listen to me your question is very

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sub and I can tell you what I think do

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not take

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offense of course can you imagine a

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scenario where you sent Russian troops

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to

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Poland only in one case if Poland

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attacks Russia why because we have no

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interest in Poland lvia or anywhere else

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why would we do that we simply don't

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have any interest it's just threat

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mongering well the argument I know you

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know this is that well he invaded

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Ukraine he has territorial aims across

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the continent and you're saying

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unequivocally you

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don't Absolut

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it is absolutely out of the

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question you just don't have to be any

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kind of analist it goes against common

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sense to get involved in some kind of a

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global

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war and a global war will bring all

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Humanity to the brink of Destruction

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it's

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obvious there are certainly means of

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deterrence they have been scaring

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everyone with us all along so tomorrow

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Russia will use tactical nuclear weapons

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tomorrow Russia will use that no the day

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after tomorrow so

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what in order to extort additional money

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from us taxpayers and European taxpayers

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in the confrontation with Russia in the

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Ukrainian theater of

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war the goal is to weaken Russia as much

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as possible who blew up

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nordstream you for sure I was busy that

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day Nate do you have

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do uh I did not blow up north stream uh

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thank you

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though you personally may have an alibi

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but the CIA has no such

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Alibi do do you have evidence that NATO

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or CIA did

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it you know I won't get into details but

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people always say in such cases look for

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someone who is interested but in this

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case we should not only look for someone

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who is interested but also for someone

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who has capabilities because there may

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be many people interested but not all of

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them are capable of sinking to the

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bottom of the Baltic Sea and carrying

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out this

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explosion these two components should be

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connected who is interested and who is

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capable of doing it Services your inel

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services you would

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that NATO the US CIA the West did this

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why wouldn't you present it and win a

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propaganda

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victory in the war of propaganda it is

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very difficult to defeat the United

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States because the United States

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controls all the world's media and many

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European media the ultimate beneficiary

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of the biggest European media are

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American financial

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institutions don't you know

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that so it is possible to get involved

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in this work but it is cost prohibitive

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so to speak we can simply Shine the

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spotlight on our sources of information

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and we will not achieve

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results it is clear to the whole world

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what happened and even American analysts

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talk about it

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directly we negotiated with Ukraine inul

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we agreed he was aware of this moreover

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the negotiation group leader Mr Aria is

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his last name I believe still heads the

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faction of the ruling Party The Party of

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the president in the

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Rada he still heads the presidential

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faction in the Rada the country's

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Parliament he still sits there he even

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put his preliminary signature on the

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document I am telling you about but then

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he publicly stated to the whole world we

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were ready to sign this document but Mr

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Johnson then the prime Minister of Great

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Britain came and dissuaded us from doing

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this saying it was better to fight

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Russia they would give everything needed

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for us to return what was lost during

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the clashes with Russia and we agreed

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with this proposal look his statement

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has been published he said it

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publicly can they return to this or not

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the question is do they want it or

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not further on President of Ukraine

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issued a decree prohibiting negoti with

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us let him cancel that decree and that's

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it we have never refused negotiations

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indeed Evan gersovitz who's the Wall

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Street Journal reporter he's

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32 um and he's been in prisoned for

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almost a year uh this is a huge story in

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the United States and I just want to ask

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you directly without getting into the

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tales of it or your version of what

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happened if as a sign of your decency

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you would be willing to release him to

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us and we'll bring him back to the

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United States

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we have done so many gestures of good

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willll out of decency that I think we

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have run out of

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them we have never seen anyone

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reciprocate to us in a similar

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manner however in theory we can say that

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that we do not rule out that we can do

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that if our partners take reciprocal

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steps when I talk about the partners I

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first of all refer to special

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services special services are in contact

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with one another they are talking about

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the matter in

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question there is no taboo to settle

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this issue we are willing to solve it

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but there are certain terms being

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discussed via special services

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channels I believe an agreement can be

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reached