Najib Razak speaks about the 1MDB scandal | 101 East

Summary

This transcript details an interview with former Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak, who discusses his political downfall after losing the 2018 election and facing multiple charges of money laundering, abuse of power, and criminal breach of trust. The conversation covers Najib's defense against the allegations, including his involvement with the 1MDB scandal, accusations of kleptocracy, and lavish gifts linked to misappropriated funds. Najib also reflects on his legacy and denies involvement in high-profile murders while facing criticism for his governance and personal conduct.

Takeaways

• 😕 The Malaysian government was unexpectedly defeated in the May election after being in power for over 60 years.
• 🏦 Former Prime Minister Najib Razak is facing charges of money laundering, abuse of power, and criminal breach of trust.
• 👑 Najib Razak was born into a political dynasty and became Prime Minister in 2009, but his tenure was marred by scandal and corruption allegations.
• 💼 The 1MDB scandal involved the alleged misappropriation of 4.5 billion dollars from Malaysia's sovereign wealth fund, which Najib set up.
• 🎉 Jho Low, a Malaysian entrepreneur, gained notoriety for his extravagant lifestyle funded by the 1MDB funds.
• 👜 Najib's wife, Rosmah Mansor, was known for her luxurious lifestyle filled with designer items.
• 📈 Public discontent with Najib and his party led to a united opposition taking power in the 2018 general election.
• 🚓 Najib's residences were raided by the police, resulting in the confiscation of luxury goods worth 240 million dollars.
• 📖 Najib faces nearly 40 charges related to the 1MDB scandal, which is being investigated by six different countries, including the U.S. Department of Justice.
• 🤝 Najib maintains that the money he received was a donation from the Saudi Ministry of Finance and not from 1MDB.
• 💍 There are allegations that a 27 million dollar pink diamond was purchased for Najib's wife using 1MDB funds, which he denies knowledge of.

Q & A

What were the main reasons Najib Razak believes his party lost the 2018 general election?

Najib Razak believes his party lost the 2018 general election due to two main reasons: false promises made by the opposition and the 'propaganda war' against him and his party, which he describes as a vilification campaign.

How does Najib Razak respond to allegations that his government was a kleptocracy?

Najib Razak denies that his government was a kleptocracy. He argues that he returned more than $620 million, which he claims disproves the allegations against him.

What justification does Najib Razak give for the money that flowed into his personal accounts?

Najib Razak claims that the money was a direct contribution from the Ministry of Finance of Saudi Arabia, and he assumed it was legitimate based on assurances from King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia.

How does Najib explain the allegations regarding the authenticity of the letter from the Saudi prince?

Najib Razak insists that he accepted the funds because of assurances from King Abdullah. He denies any knowledge of similarities between the Saudi prince's letter and a letter from a close Malaysian business associate of Jho Low.

What does Najib say about the 1MDB scandal and the involvement of international figures?

Najib acknowledges that there were issues with 1MDB but insists that the investigation should not stop with Jho Low. He believes that other international figures allegedly involved should also be questioned and held accountable.

How does Najib Razak respond to allegations about the purchase of a pink diamond pendant for his wife?

Najib claims that the pendant was a gift from Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed (Shaman Zoh), but that his wife never received it. He denies knowledge that the funds came from 1MDB and argues that accepting expensive gifts is part of Middle Eastern culture.

What is Najib's explanation for his stepson's sudden wealth?

Najib claims that his stepson's wealth came from investments promised by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed of Abu Dhabi, which were intended to fund his movie production ventures.

How does Najib defend his track record as Prime Minister?

Najib expresses pride in his achievements, particularly in the economic growth of Malaysia during his tenure, which he claims outpaced the growth of the 'Asian Tigers' like Korea, Taiwan, Japan, and Singapore.

What does Najib say about the ongoing investigations into the 1MDB scandal?

Najib suggests that if Jho Low or others are responsible for siphoning funds, they should be held accountable. He claims to have had no knowledge that the money he received was linked to 1MDB.

What is Najib Razak's stance on reopening high-profile murder cases linked to him?

Najib states that these cases were thoroughly investigated and decided by the highest courts in Malaysia, clearing him of any involvement. He supports the legal process and denies any wrongdoing.

Outlines

00:00

💼 Najib Razak's Political Fall and Corruption Allegations

This paragraph introduces Najib Razak, Malaysia's former Prime Minister, and the scandals that plagued his career. It discusses the unexpected loss of his ruling party after 60 years in power and the subsequent charges of money laundering, abuse of power, and criminal breach of trust he faces. The paragraph sets the stage for an in-depth examination of Najib's political downfall, including the major financial scandal involving the 1MDB sovereign wealth fund.

05:02

💰 Allegations of Kleptocracy and Najib's Defense

Here, Najib Razak addresses accusations of kleptocracy related to the misappropriation of $4.5 billion from the 1MDB fund. He denies these claims, asserting that his government was not kleptocratic, pointing out that he returned a significant amount of money. Najib explains that the funds in question came from the Ministry of Finance of Saudi Arabia and not from the 1MDB fund, as alleged by the U.S. Department of Justice. He defends his actions by highlighting his trust in the commitments made by Saudi royalty.

10:04

💍 Luxury Gifts and Najib's Wife's Pink Diamond

This paragraph discusses Najib's wife and the luxurious lifestyle she led, including the purchase of a $27 million pink diamond. Najib defends the acquisition, stating that it was a gift from a Saudi royal, Shaman Soh. He denies knowledge that the money for the diamond came from 1MDB funds and maintains that both he and his wife were unaware of its actual value. He points out that receiving expensive gifts is a cultural norm in the Middle East and insists that the gift was accepted in good faith.

15:05

🏠 Najib's Stepson's Lavish Purchases and 1MDB Connection

In this section, the focus shifts to Najib's stepson, who allegedly used 1MDB funds to finance a luxurious lifestyle, including the purchase of several high-value properties and funding the Hollywood film 'The Wolf of Wall Street.' Najib claims that he believed the investments came from legitimate sources, specifically from the UAE, as indicated by a conversation with UAE's Crown Prince. He denies that his stepson knew the money was from 1MDB, insisting that it was presented as a loan from the Abu Dhabi family.

20:07

⚖️ Reinvestigating High-Profile Murders and Deportation Controversy

This paragraph touches on Najib's call for reinvestigating several high-profile murders, including those of Altantuya Shaariibuu and others, which have been linked to him. He defends his actions, stating that the cases were thoroughly investigated by the courts, clearing him of any involvement. The paragraph also mentions the deportation of a journalist in 2015, which Najib justifies as a response to what he perceived as fabricated lies, maintaining his innocence in the murder cases.

25:10

📉 Najib's Frustration and Legacy

The final paragraph captures Najib's frustration with the focus on scandals rather than his economic achievements. He expresses pride in Malaysia's development under his leadership, citing economic growth that exceeded that of other Asian Tigers. Despite the 1MDB scandal, Najib emphasizes his positive legacy and denies covering up any wrongdoing. He refuses to continue discussing the 1MDB issue, expressing his belief that his track record as Prime Minister should speak for itself.

Keywords

💡1MDB

1MDB, or 1Malaysia Development Berhad, is a sovereign wealth fund established by Najib Razak shortly after becoming Prime Minister. It became the center of a massive financial scandal involving the alleged misappropriation of $4.5 billion. The scandal severely impacted Najib's political career, leading to multiple investigations and charges of corruption.

💡Najib Razak

Najib Razak is the former Prime Minister of Malaysia, whose political career was marred by allegations of corruption, especially related to the 1MDB scandal. Despite his denials, Najib faces nearly 40 charges of money laundering, abuse of power, and criminal breach of trust. His downfall marked a significant political shift in Malaysia.

💡Sovereign wealth fund

A sovereign wealth fund is a state-owned investment fund comprised of money generated by the government, often derived from the country's reserves. In this context, 1MDB was Malaysia's sovereign wealth fund, intended to drive economic development, but it became infamous due to the alleged embezzlement and corruption associated with it.

💡Jho Low

Jho Low is a Malaysian businessman who was central to the 1MDB scandal. He is accused of orchestrating the siphoning of billions of dollars from the fund, which was used to finance a lavish lifestyle, including purchasing luxury properties and funding Hollywood movies. Despite being a fugitive, his actions continue to be a focal point of investigations.

💡Money laundering

Money laundering refers to the process of making illegally-gained proceeds appear legal. In the 1MDB scandal, Najib Razak and others were accused of laundering money through complex transactions across various countries. This illegal activity is one of the charges that Najib faces in court.

💡Rosmah Mansor

Rosmah Mansor is the wife of Najib Razak and is also implicated in the 1MDB scandal. She faces 17 charges related to money laundering and corruption. Her extravagant lifestyle, including the ownership of luxury goods allegedly purchased with embezzled funds, has been widely criticized and became symbolic of the corruption within Najib's administration.

💡Election of 2018

The election of 2018 in Malaysia marked a historic moment as the ruling party, Barisan Nasional, led by Najib Razak, was defeated after over 60 years in power. This election was influenced by public outrage over the 1MDB scandal and widespread allegations of corruption, leading to a political realignment in the country.

💡Barisan Nasional

Barisan Nasional is a major political coalition in Malaysia that ruled the country for over six decades until their defeat in the 2018 election. The coalition, led by Najib Razak at the time, lost due to growing public dissatisfaction, largely fueled by the 1MDB scandal and other corruption allegations.

💡Department of Justice (DOJ)

The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) plays a significant role in the 1MDB investigation. The DOJ traced the misappropriated funds from 1MDB to various accounts and assets linked to Najib Razak and his associates, including Jho Low. The DOJ's involvement highlights the international scope of the scandal.

💡Political dynasty

A political dynasty refers to a family where multiple members hold or have held significant political power. Najib Razak was born into such a dynasty in Malaysia, with his father being a former Prime Minister. His political rise was seen as part of this legacy, but his career was ultimately overshadowed by corruption scandals.

Highlights

Malaysia's ruling party lost the election after more than 60 years in power.

Former Prime Minister Najib Razak is facing charges of money laundering, abuse of power, and criminal breach of trust.

Najib Razak was born into a political dynasty and took the top job in 2009.

His political career was plagued with scandal and allegations of corruption.

The 1MDB financial scandal involved the alleged misappropriation of 4.5 billion dollars.

Public anger against Najib and his party led to a newly united opposition taking power in the 2018 general election.

Najib's residences were raided by police, confiscating luxury goods worth 240 million dollars.

Najib faces almost 40 charges related to the 1MDB scandal.

The 1MDB scandal is being investigated by six different countries, including the United States Department of Justice.

Najib claims the money in his account was a donation from the Saudi Ministry of Finance.

Questions about the authenticity of a letter from a Saudi prince gifting Najib money.

Najib's stepson allegedly received over 200 million dollars from 1MDB funds for property and film investments.

Najib calls for the reinvestigation of high-profile murders linked to him.

Najib was deported from Malaysia while filming a story about a murder case.

Najib discusses his legacy as Prime Minister, emphasizing economic growth and development.

Najib expresses regret over the 1MDB issue and its impact on his legacy.

The interview touches on Najib's relationship with Jho Low and the implications of 1MDB on his reputation.

Transcripts

it was an election that Malaysia's

government never expected to lose but in

May after more than 60 years in power

the ruling party was thrown out

now Malaysia's former Prime Minister

Najib Razak faces charges of money

laundering abuse of power and criminal

breach of trust I'm Maryann jolly on

this episode 101 East we speak to Najib

Razak and ask what went wrong Najib

Razak was born into a political dynasty

he entered politics well in his 20s

rising through the ranks to take the top

job in 2009 but his political career was

plagued with scandal and allegations of

corruption death was allegedly linked to

a corrupt defense deal at a time when

Najib was a Minister for defense 101

he's covered the case in 2015 as a

result I was banned from the country I'm

being deported from the

and being escorted by about five customs

agents and military outfit but it was

the world's biggest financial scandal

that would bring him down shortly after

becoming Prime Minister Najib set up a

sovereign wolf fund 1mdb

with the hope of a young Malaysian

entrepreneur Jolo four point five

billion dollars was allegedly siphoned

out Jolo gained a reputation for

extravagant parties with celebrities

private jets and super yachts back in

Malaysia Naja's wife Roz MA reveled in a

life of luxury with designer bags and

jewels by the general election of 2018

public anger against Najib in his party

thrust a newly united opposition into

power I accept the verdict of the people

NAR Jeeves private residences were

raided by police who confiscated 240

million dollars worth of luxury goods 84

boxes containing handbags and there was

72 bags containing cash jewelry and

watches today Najib faces almost 40

charges of money laundering an abuse of

power his wife Rosa faces 17 charges of

her own

the 1mdb scandal is being investigated

by six different countries including the

Department of Justice in the United

States

mr. Najib very Anjali yeah nice to meet

you pleased to meet you please decussate

Thank You mr. Najib thank you for

joining one on one East to begin with

what was your reaction the night of the

election and and why do you think the

Malaysian people decided after almost

six decades they wanted to change

basically we lost for two main reasons

one we lost because of the false

promises made by the opposition promises

which they themselves can see today they

have considered very openly that they

made the promises because they thought

they were not going to be and of course

the other one is we lost a propaganda

war you know the vilification of me as a

prime is that then as well as the party

it was a perfect storm you know that led

to the end of Barisan Nasional who in

the

but let's go to some of those propaganda

claims that were made that you say were

propaganda claims I mean what do you say

to those who accuse your government of

having been a kleptocracy of having been

involved in one of the biggest heists

the world have has ever seen

you know the alleged misappropriation of

4.5 billion dollars from the country's

sovereign wealth fund 1mdb well first of

all it's not true that you know our

government was a kleptocrat government

because the main point was that I

returned more than six hundred twenty

million dollars back you know they kept

on accusing me of receiving huge sum of

money but they forgot to mention that

the bulk of the money was returned for

months of the general election but mr.

Danzig just going to your personal

accounts that money that flowed into

your account in 2013 that came directly

from an account in Singapore linked to a

very close business associate of jolo

how do you explain that okay there were

two main sources that came to my account

one was a direct contribution from the

Ministry of Finance of Saudi Arabia that

has been proven in terms of why it

according to the United States

Department of Justice report that money

originated in an account Oh controlled

by Joel oh and then it went into the

Saudi account and then it flowed to your

- one was established it came from the

Ministry of Finance Saudi that was also

confirmed by the DOJ report if you put

yourself in my position when King

Abdullah the late King Abdullah

committed to support me I assumed that

everything was going to be done in a

proper way and I would not have any

knowledge of who owns the fun but you

were the prime minister of this country

you were the Minister for finance you

were also the chairman of the 1mdb

Advisory Committee shouldn't you have

wanted to know where exactly that money

was coming from sure I wanted to know

but after receiving the commitment from

King Abdullah and subsequent dentists

that was sent to me I assumed everything

would be fine just on that matter you

have presented a letter from the Saudi

prince gifting you the money but there

are serious questions about the

authenticity of that letter how do you

account for the fact that the letter

from that Saudi prince uses exactly the

same phrases as a letter written by a

very close Malaysian business associate

of Jo lo gifting him millions of dollars

worth of art for example the saudi

prince writes the gift should not in any

event be construed as an act of

corruption I personally do not encourage

such practices in any manner whatsoever

and then you've got Joe Lowe's associate

writing to him all the artwork

gifted to you should not in any event be

construed as an act of corruption I

personally do not encourage such

practices in any manner whatsoever I

mean what do you say to people who say

that these that letter from the Saudi

prince was fabricated in fact reason to

cover up the diversion of funds into

Jolo and his associates accounts and in

fact into your own account well I want

to say this that the only reason why

accepted because I had a surance you

know from King Abdullah that he would

support me and subsequent initial

donations did come from the Ministry of

Finance of Saudi and I assume that

subsequent donations would also come

from sources connected to the Saudi I am

not privy to letters written by Jolo in

other instances as you mentioned but

that no authority

examine it let them investigate and if

giorno is responsible or anyone

responsible for siphoning of funds then

they must be held accountable the

question is when I received the funds

was I aware of the source of money if

the central bank were to signal to me

there was something of concern money if

I get a check from al-jazeera into my

bank account I know it comes from

al-jazeera I know the account it comes

from it's got an account number on it

it's not a secret this came from a

Singapore account controlled by Joe

Lowe's close business associate on a

Malaysian man and and the United States

Justice Department has traced that money

back to 1mdb money but that was

subsequent at a particular time when I

received the money I assumed it was a

genuine donation I do not have any

knowledge beyond that please your you've

recently been banned from leaving the

country you've been charged with 38

counts of money laundering bribery and

abuse of power but when you were Prime

Minister and an investigation cleared

you of any wrongdoing why do you think

you were cleared then and you're now

facing a long list of serious charges

you must realize that this current

government you know when they were

running for office they had already made

this political narrative that they were

going to take action against me so in

that sense they have to fulfill you know

whatever political promises they made

levelling charges is one thing but

whether the evidence adduced

later on was support the charges that's

another matter so tell me what was your

relationship with Joel oh no my

relationship with jordo was on the basis

that he was going to promote you know

investment from

you know the Middle East that will help

us ensure that we can achieve a good

strategic relationship with certain key

countries and he was very close to the

royal families particularly in UAE

as well as in Saudi so I saw him as

creating value you know that could help

us that was the main reason but there

are six investigations going on around

the world into corruption related to

1mdb

what what does that tell you about what

went on yeah there were there were

things that went wrong in one MTBE but

don't stop at just Jo law but get others

involved as well because there are other

international figures who are probably

allegedly involved

they must also you know be investigated

they must also be questioned who

benefited who really benefited from the

whole 1mdb issue this is what I would

like to know too well some people would

say that you benefited for example that

money that the 620 million dollars that

you returned back into the account of

joe lows close business associate in

singapore 27 million dollars worth of

that was was used to purchase a 22 carat

pink diamond pendant for your wife what

do you say in response to that as far as

I'm concerned there was a gift made by

Shimon saw and for an international

audience could you please explain who

shaman saw is Sherman so is the brother

of the crown prince

shame Ahmed bin Zaheer they call him am

busy and we know that jolo was a close

associate of shame and so and the others

in UAE but let me just finish that

please

there was a gift given by

and so but subsequently my wife did not

receive it

so this meta dispute what's happened to

the big diamond but let no authorities

investigate men of justice the United

States Department of Justice traces that

money to the purchase of that pink

diamond pendant and they have

conversations between the jeweler your

wife Joel Oh clearly giving evidence

that he bought your wife a twenty seven

million dollar pink diamond with 1md

money no as far as I'm concerned when it

was presented initially to me it was

presented as the gift from shaman's Oh

okay if I knew it was coming from one

energy money I wouldn't accept it at all

mr. Najib who would know where you came

from who paid for it you know given that

your annual official income is less than

$70,000 a year were you not concerned

that this was going to look really bad

there's a culture in the Middle East

that expensive presents are given but 27

million dollars value we didn't know the

value of the money okay or the present

and I can tell you but your wife didn't

know the value of it because she'd been

with Joel oh to the jeweler and and

looked at this tried it on there are

there's records of all of this how do

you account for the fact that she didn't

know or you didn't know the value of

this pink diamond

I really didn't know the value of the

pink diamond I mean there could be some

degree of estimation of the value but

mine you as head of government we have

received expensive presents from other

monarchs in the region and that is their

culture and that culture is still going

on and I do know that you know in other

countries of course there is a

regulation that you have to declare

presence but in Malaysia there is no

regulation well I understand that there

there is a if you if a politician in

this country receives a gift worth more

than a hundred and twenty US dollars

then they have to declare it that's

according to the Malaysian

anti-corruption Commission notice there

is no law relating to guess from

dignitaries from other countries because

I do know that my my predecessors also

receive excess expensive presence but

there is no regulation for it to be

declared or handed over to the

government let's go to another member of

your family your stepson who is a close

friend of jolo around 2012 more than 200

million dollars from 1mdb funds

allegedly was transferred into his

Singapore account he went on to purchase

a thirty five million dollar condominium

in New York a seventeen point five

million dollar house in Beverly Hills

and a forty one point eight million

dollar London townhouse and fund a

Hollywood blockbuster wolf of Wall

Street what did you make of his newfound

wealth given that he'd only had a couple

of jobs in banks he'd never produced a

film in previously he had no experience

in that world what did you make of his

newfound wealth he's always been a movie

buff even though we let me just finish

it this it it's always been a movie buff

and his ambition was ready to go into

the movies so when it happened that and

when we visited Abu Dhabi mbz Mohammed

bin Zayed told him in my presence that

we are going to invest in your movies

okay so we assume that whatever

investment is going to come from Abu

Dhabi so as far as I can say it was a

commercial arrangement yes but I mean

he's bought how many like almost a

hundred million dollars worth of

property around the

world that's not funding a movie that's

funding a lifestyle where did he get

that money from the United States

Department of Justice alleges that that

money came directly from 1mdb

well everybody assumed that the money

was coming from the USA again when you

are being presented with that sort of

offer you you cannot look beyond it

because you wouldn't know you just

assume that the money's come from you

know that's the people who want to

invest but isn't it important as a prime

minister of this country to know where

the money comes from so that you know

that you're not going to eventually be

compromised

so why didn't I mean it seems to me that

you're constantly saying you don't know

where the money came from that yet at

the same time 1mdb

was going into massive debt no as far as

I'm concerned I didn't know I really

didn't know it was one MD B's money

because Muhammad bin zayed a crown

prince said we were we are going to

invest in your sepsis movie do you now

acknowledge that it must have been one

MDV money given that the US Department

of Justice has moved to seize your

stepsons properties and he's also made a

settlement of 60 million dollars do you

now accept that he was the beneficiary

of 1mdb money as far as I'm concerned

into a civil settlement and there's no

admission of guilt that that is the

position because if you think that it

was settled because it's one NDB it

presumes that he had knowledge of the

money coming on him he had no knowledge

and I know for sure that you've had

knowledge she wouldn't have accepted it

he accepted it because it was a loan by

the by the Abu Dhabi family to him

especially from the country what do you

what would you say to people who say

they don't believe that that you're

actually you're covering it up no I mean

I mean in all honesty that that's the

truth I mean I mean I cannot X and it's

nothing I can do it people don't believe

it

but that's the honest truth because my

track record as Prime Minister I can

stand by it because this country has

developed by leaps and bounds during my

tenure just going back to when the

police raided can we we're supposed to

talk buddy corner we are going to but

listen there are just a couple of other

allegations that well I tell you I do

want to ask you about your decision your

you know you have recently called for

the reinvestigation of several

high-profile murders to be to be

reinvestigated that you know people say

that you're very fond of this subject

you yes well you've recently called for

the reinvestigation of several

high-profile murders that many say you

are linked to the murder of Alton to you

char abou in 2006

Haseena jadi in 2013 and Kevin Morales

in 2015

why didn't you reopen those cases when

you were prime minister he put it this

way it went through the courts you know

in a case of art Andrea went to the

court at the highest level the federal

court so I have been cleared entirely by

this legal process and if you ask then

she police on Malaysia he will he will

testify he will verify that I had no

involvement whatsoever

I was deported from Malaysia in in June

2015 while filming a story about the

murder of Alton - you Chavez why did you

have me deported it seemed can be

deported you you're a nuisance because

as far as I'm concerned making lies

fabricating lies it's not something that

we want to tolerate in this country but

I wasn't fabricating lies

I was actually seeking an interview with

you I was I have no

political agenda in this country I was

just trying to understand what the way

you've been asking is that still in your

mind I was already involved nothing to

do with I've done to you nothing so just

because I was filming a story about

Alton to use murder in this country that

was very well decided by the authorities

they don't want things to be stirred up

in this country I leave it to them we

understand that that directive came

directly from the Prime Minister's

Office you well I am NOT party to a

decision but as far as I'm concerned I

am totally totally innocent of the done

to your case

absolutely and the the one in DB don't

go to the economy so much this time

otherwise I'm going to walk out okay

just one thing no more so many people

say okay if you want to talk on me I'll

sit down come on you're not being fair

to me you know if you want to explain

economy you are facing serious charges

in this country and people look I've

done I've done my I'm not gonna stand

anymore if you want to us by economy

I'll talk okay well we'll ask about

let's talk given what's happened to you

let's let's talk about your legacy okay

legacy I'm talk about a legacy yeah what

do you consider to be your legacy as

Prime Minister of Malaysia I have

steered the progress of this country I'm

very proud of my achievement my

government's achievement first of all in

terms of the stewardship of the economy

for six years we exceeded the growth of

the four so-called Asian Tigers Korea

Taiwan Japan and Singapore I'm proud of

the achievements that I've achieved how

do you feel about the fact that the 1mdb

and all has sustained that legacy to a

certain extent I regret you know and I

wish there was no 1mdb issue whatsoever

Jono can I just ask you about Joel it is

important why do you coming back you

know why no no no just you but mr. Najib

it is important because people are

asking he has been charged with money

laundering and he's he's evading arrest

you're facing arrest he's not I think

it's really important that you talk

about how you feel about that and that's

then take action against your law i mean

i'm i'm not in a gaboon now let the go

and pursue it yeah but why do you think

he is evading arrest are you smoking out

instituted new I have not in touch with

me but he hasn't spoken out in support

of you you you want us to follow up with

him do you blame him when was the last

time you communicate is enough thank you

like to you thank you thank you mr. na

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