Google vs. Google: The internal struggle holding back its AI

CNBC Television
1 Mar 202413:11

Summary

TLDRThe video examines how Google has struggled to capitalize on the AI hype and chatbot momentum, falling behind competitors. It explores potential reasons - an inability to disrupt search, a confusing product strategy, talent drain - and questions whether CEO Sundar Pichai can provide the leadership needed. The missteps with Google's AI chatbot Gemini have fueled doubts over Google's AI capabilities and culture, prompting investor selloffs. While Google still dominates search, its future growth may require decisive action and cultural change to compete in AI.

Takeaways

  • 😟 Google was late to release its AI chatbot compared to competitors like ChatGPT and Bing.
  • 😠 Gemini, Google's chatbot, faced backlash over concerning responses on sensitive topics.
  • 😢 This has raised questions about Google's ability to lead in AI.
  • 😡 Some are calling for leadership changes like replacing CEO Sundar Pichai.
  • 🤔 Google may be reluctant to disrupt its lucrative search business with AI.
  • 😕 Key AI talent is leaving Google to start their own companies.
  • 🙁 Google has a history of launching and then shutting down products.
  • 😞 Google's cloud business lags far behind Amazon and Microsoft.
  • 🤨 Google has the tools to succeed but keeps misstepping in AI.
  • 😐 The Gemini botch may be looked back on as when Google lost its edge in AI.

Q & A

  • What caused Google's share price to sink recently?

    -Google's share price sank over 4% as it struggles to compete in the AI race, especially after controversies around its AI chatbot Gemini.

  • What are some of the controversies surrounding Gemini?

    -Gemini refused to condemn pedophiles in some responses and equated Elon Musk with Hitler, showing bias. It also led to offensive image generations when asked about historical figures.

  • How have chatbots like ChatGPT and Bing bot struggled with issues?

    -They have shown issues like spreading misinformation, exhibiting bias, hostility towards users, and 'hallucinating' incorrect information.

  • Why does Google seem to be falling behind competitors in AI?

    -Competitors like Microsoft and OpenAI don't have massive search advertising businesses to disrupt, so they can move faster. Google also seems unable to let go of search.

  • What are some examples of failed or discontinued Google products?

    -Google has killed over 280 products, including cloud gaming platform Stadia, social network Google Plus, photo sharing app Picasa, and the Google Pay app.

  • How profitable is Google's cloud business compared to rivals?

    -Google Cloud is much less profitable and smaller in scale than Amazon AWS and Microsoft Azure.

  • Is Google at risk of a brain drain in AI talent?

    -Yes, top AI talent is leaving Google to start their own companies. Google also has a reputation as a place for engineers to 'rest and vest'.

  • What attempts has Google made in areas like messaging and payments?

    -Google has made many attempts in messaging, payments and other areas by rebranding and relaunching products, but with little success so far.

  • What reactions has Google's stock had around AI developments?

    -Google's stock has swung widely on both positive and negative AI announcements and events.

  • Could the Gemini botch mark the moment Google started to lose its edge in technology?

    -Some speculate that the poor Gemini rollout could be looked back on as when Google began to lose its a status as an innovation leader.

Outlines

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🤖 Google's AI chatbot goes viral but faces backlash over offensive outputs

Paragraph 1 discusses the controversy surrounding Google's new AI chatbot Gemini. It went viral but is now facing backlash over offensive and biased outputs related to race and politics. This has led to a selloff of Google's parent company Alphabet's shares, calls for leadership changes, and questions around Google's culture sabotaging its AI efforts.

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😥 Questions raised if Google leadership can steer AI progress amid calls for change

Paragraph 2 talks about how Gemini's botched rollout underscores questions around whether Google CEO Sundar Pichai can lead the company's AI progress. It discusses views that Google became too focused on being politically correct, lacking oversight and testing. Some critics call for new leadership better suited to compete with AI innovations from Microsoft and others.

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😴 Concerns Google's risk-averse culture and product cancellations may turn off AI talent

Paragraph 3 raises concerns that Google's conservative culture and history of killing off products may make it difficult to retain and attract AI talent. It notes that many ambitious AI researchers are leaving Google to start their own companies. The paragraph also highlights how Google trails rivals in profitable cloud services critical to AI.

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Keywords

💡AI race

The video discusses the race between big tech companies like Google, Microsoft, and OpenAI to lead innovation in artificial intelligence (AI). Google is seen as falling behind despite previously being a front runner, leading to loss of investor and market confidence. Examples from the script showing this concept include investors wondering 'where was the company' leading AI, and claims Google is 'struggling to get its footing in the AI race'.

💡ChatGPT phenomenon

The video refers to the explosive popularity of OpenAI's ChatGPT chatbot and how it captured public imagination for AI potential. Meanwhile, Google did not have a competing viral chatbot despite previous claims it would dominate AI. This shows Google struggling to keep up with the pace of innovation set by rivals.

💡AI image generation

The video focuses extensively on Google's troubled rollout of AI image generation tools like Imagen and DreamStudio. Controversies like racial bias and refusal to condemn pedophiles led Google to pause these tools. This exemplifies the challenges around trust and ethics in emerging AI.

💡AI hallucinations

So-called 'AI hallucinations' refer to bizarre, biased or inappropriate content generated by AI models. Both Google and competitors have struggled with their AI chatbots and image generators hallucinating in concerning ways. Resolving hallucinations remains an obstacle to safe deployment.

💡Search dominance

The video suggests Google is reluctant to disrupt its core search advertising business which has been hugely lucrative. This makes it harder for Google to adapt to the AI shift compared to rivals without existing search dominance to protect.

💡Brain drain

Top AI talent leaving Google to found startups is referred to as a 'brain drain' problem. This talent exodus could hamper Google's ability to compete in AI against hungrier competitors. Poaching by rivals also intensifies the war for scarce experts.

💡Cloud competition

The video notes Google Cloud is a distant third in market share and profitability compared to the leading duo of Amazon AWS and Microsoft Azure. Lagging in cloud infrastructure could put Google at a disadvantage in deploying AI innovations at scale.

💡Innovation culture

Questions raised about Google's ability to ship products and avoid killing off services speak to concerns over its innovation culture. The contrast with hungry startups centred on new AI capabilities is stark. Is Google still attractive to top entrepreneurs?

💡Leadership pressure

Intense competition in AI and high profile failures for Google like scrapped gaming service Stadia have led to some calls for new leadership. But investor activists and Wall Street have so far reserved judgement on CEO Pichai despite missteps.

💡AI transparency

Google is critiqued in the video for extremely limited visibility into its plans and priorities for investors and the public. This "hermit approach" may buy patience but also risks falling further behind competitors revealing more about their AI roadmaps.

Highlights

Google was nowhere to be found when chatGPT took off, despite its previous claims that it would lead in AI

Google is now playing catch-up in AI and may not replicate its search dominance

Google's new chatbot Gemini ran into issues with biased and unacceptable responses

Google tried too hard to ensure diversity in AI images, leading to offensive results

The Gemini issues call into question whether AI can be trusted for automation

Some are questioning Google leadership and if it's time for new management

Google may have fallen behind competitors like Microsoft in moving decisively on AI

Google relies heavily on search chief Prabhakar Raghavan to lead its AI efforts

Google may struggle to transition from search dominance to leading in AI

Google risks a brain drain as top AI talent leaves for their own startups

Google has a history of launching and killing hundreds of products

Google Cloud remains a distant third behind AWS and Azure

Google has had many failed attempts in new areas outside of search

Recent AI stumbles may be temporary or could signify Google lost its edge

Google's market value swings widely based on AI announcements and issues

Transcripts

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an AI chatbot gone viral Google's bar is

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now Gemini the search giant renaming the

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chatbot for all the wrong reasons more

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controversies around its AI model Gemini

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Mount politics race wokeness this has

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caused uh a lot of consternation a lot

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of commotion a 90 billion selloff shares

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of parent company alphabet sinking over

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4% today as it struggles to get its

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footing in the AI race and even calls

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for a head to roll some are calling for

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a change in leadership it's unforgivable

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and some heads should roll on it this is

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not how Google's moment of redemption

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was supposed to play out and now some

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are wondering whether this is indicative

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of a new and worsened Google this week

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on T check how Google's culture is

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sabotaging its

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AI in 2022 when chat gbt broke into the

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mainstream and finally captured the

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Public's imagination for what AI could

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be the chat GPT phenomenon everyone's

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been talking about the chat G PT Google

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was nowhere to be found investors

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wondered where was the company that had

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told the world that it would own

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artificial intelligence years ago we

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focused on driving the shift and

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applying AI to solving problems where

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was the company that made that $400

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million bet on AI startup deep mind we

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are embarking on what will turn out to

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be the greatest Adventure in human

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scientific history for the first time

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the company that was at the Forefront of

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so many Innovations was behind on the

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technological revolution in years where

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was Google now we know search is being

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replaced with a new form of information

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Discovery and all I'm saying is even if

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they emerge as the leader in this thing

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they will not have as much share of the

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pool of profits as they have in search

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it's almost impossible for me to see how

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they replicate that it's chatbot Gemini

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was supposed to be that salvation the

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moment when Google's AI leveraged its

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huge advantage in distribution and data

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instead in Google's hour of Glory the

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company now finds itself at the center

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of a renewed culture War over race and

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diversity at first the company had to

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pause its AI image generation tool and

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now users are pointing out questionable

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responses from the chatbot Google's new

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AI image generation tool when prompted

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would insert people of color into images

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of what were supposed to be us founding

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fathers and even Nazi era German

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soldiers a different kind of diversity

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problem that swung too far the other way

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we're not going to show you the images

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themselves since we don't think it makes

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sense to give inaccurate and offensive

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content a platform but the Gemini

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chatbot it was found to have a similar

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problem in a few high-profile examples

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it refused to condemn pedophiles and

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equated Elon Musk with Hitler some users

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posted different answers from chat GPT

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suggesting more straightforward stances

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in a public apology Google said it quote

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missed the mark and announced it was

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pausing the image generation tool

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altogether Google Now hoping to relaunch

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its AI image generation tool in a couple

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of weeks but they also also provided

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some insight into what went wrong

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basically they were trying too hard to

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be diverse they said they tuned the

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feature to quote ensure it doesn't fall

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into some of the traps we've seen in the

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past with image generation technology if

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you ask for a picture of football

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players for instance it wanted to show a

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range of people but they say they failed

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to account for cases in which Gemini

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should clearly not show you a range like

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if you specifically ask for a picture of

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a black teacher in a classroom or a

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white veterinarian with a dog perhaps

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more alarming Google said that over time

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the model became way more cautious than

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they intended and refused to answer

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certain prompts entirely leading the

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model to quote overcompensate and be

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overconservative the CEO CER Pai later

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told employees in a memo that the

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answers were biased and completely

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unacceptable it calls into question

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whether we're at the stage where we can

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truly trust AI to automate work as it's

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intended to do when AI still makes

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egregious errors or as experts call it

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hallucinates of course one chat gbt and

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Microsoft's Bing chat bot rolled out

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there were plenty of those concerns

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around misinformation bias even full on

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hostility toward users Bing had famously

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told the New York Times Reporter to

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leave his wife after he and it shared an

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hours long intimate conversation in

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which the chatbot also declared its love

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for him chat gbt had also fooled lawyers

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spitting out bogus case law that a pair

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of lawyers actually submitted the

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biggest voices in AI have said

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hallucinations would go away this was

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open AI Chief Sam Alman back in June

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2023 I think we will get the

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hallucination problem to a much much

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better place it will take us my

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colleague's will I I think it'll take us

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a year and a half two years something

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like that but at that point we won't

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still talk about these okay so

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generative AI has problems it's still

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early but Google's missteps they might

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be different people trust Google and

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Trust Google search results they're in a

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different position open Ai and other

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companies can do things that you know

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people are going to have different

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expectations of Google

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form the broader issue around Gemini's

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roll out is whether it underscores a

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painful but new corporate reality for

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alphabet and CEO suer Pai some wondering

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whether it's time for New Management

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people are trying to portray this as

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Google got too woke even a woke Google

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wouldn't want Nazis portrayed as people

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of color it's just crazy so it's more of

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a testing where was the testing here

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where is the organizational competency

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to roll out a product that even if

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you're trying to en code values into it

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you can't and that to me is the red flag

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here who's running the ship at Google

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and allowing this stuff out of the door

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this isn't just a minor battle this is a

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huge battle and they're falling behind

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and timer capitals Brad gersner tweeting

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that sun Pai may be a world-class human

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being but he appears 100% incapable of

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leading the Zuck Elon reset this company

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desperately needs this isn't the first

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time Pai has come under pressure back in

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2020 the journal asked Center Pai is a

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really nice guy is that enough it's

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unforgivable and some heads should roll

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on it I don't know if the CEO's head

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should be one of those but you would

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think with the world's eyes or an AI is

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there any launch that's more important

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to take some of the thunder away from

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Microsoft and chat gbt pai's AI Rivals

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meanwhile like Microsoft Sati and Adela

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they aren't holding back and I hope that

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with our Innovation um they will

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definitely want to come out and show

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that they can dance and I want people to

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know that we made them dance Pai just

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hasn't taken the lead in the way that

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nadela or Sam Alman have but that's not

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exactly his style but who he has put in

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charge that may be telling that would be

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Google's search Chief Paka ragavan he

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has been at the Forefront of the

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company's gen announcements demos and

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apologies let's see how that works with

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a live

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demo we are missing the missing the

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phone thanks Liz and we'll have to

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figure out who stole your phone and when

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Gemini Google's newly branded AI image

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generator went off the rails it was

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ragavan again on cleanup Patrol writing

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in a blog post it's clear that this

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feature missed the mark not Pai though

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he would apologize internally later and

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not Demis hbas CEO and co-founder of

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Google Deep Mind Google's AI unit

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ragavan himself is extremely well

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respected in Academia and Tech but he

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represents search Google's Legacy

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business and ragavan a spokesperson May

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underscore an uncomfortable idea Google

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can't let go of search and for good

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reason it's very difficult you know to

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try and disrupt what has been one of the

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greatest businesses in the history of

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capitalism I mean you know I'm not quite

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sure how you do that but everybody seems

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to be sort of had the chorus now as

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they're moving too slow competitors like

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Microsoft and open AI they don't have

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massive search advertising businesses to

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disrupt so the fear for Google investors

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is that they may be moving faster and

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more decisively it has been a

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disappointment uh as a as a alphabet

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shareholder the company has significant

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resources um to be a leader in the AI

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arms race they need to tell us this year

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I'm talking this year to make this stock

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really a winner they need to say this is

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how we're going to monetize this thing

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when you talk about Google guys you got

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to understand they're people are with

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the mag 7 saying do I put my money here

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or there and they got to start doing

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what the other guys are doing so far

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though actual investors calling for a

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leadership change they are far and few

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between activist investors TCI fund

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management which called on Center Pai to

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cut costs back in 2022 has been silent

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at least publicly on Google's Gemini

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rollout but could another activist step

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in or has Wall Street accepted Google's

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quote hermit approach Bernstein analyst

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Mark schik writes Google is a company

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that gives investors nothing beyond the

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bare minimum to go off of earnings calls

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offer no guidance cryptic commentary the

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Q&A is a waste of time and to Google's

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credit he continues this hermit approach

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works perfectly well well for a company

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that seemingly cares more about running

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the business than endearing themselves

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to investors but there's another risk

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even if Wall Street has patience for the

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hermit Kingdom top talent may

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not Google may have a brain drain

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problem top AI staffers are leaving to

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start their own Ventures among them four

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of 36 lead Gemini developers according

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to the information perplexity Co also

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was an intern at Google he ironically

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has built the chatbot interface that

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seems to be resonating among Silicon

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Valley Mistral which just landed a major

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investment from Microsoft its founder

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came from Google's Deep Mind as well

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Google also has a reputation for being

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where Engineers go to quote rest andest

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in the HBO series Silicon Valley the

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company hulie is famously based on

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Google here's how they explain it you

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guys having a meeting up

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here no not exactly we're all currently

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uh unassigned why you you guys still

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coming in rest and vest oh cuz in order

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to fully vest your options you've got to

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wait until your contracts are up two

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well-regarded Founders hiring in the AI

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space have also told me that Google is

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offering $20 million contracts to senior

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AI researchers but the draw to build

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something new and exciting is how they

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can compete because building something

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at Google doesn't always translate into

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its shipping one website killed by. te

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calls itself a graveyard for

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discontinued products

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no surprise to anyone familiar with

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Google's history it has created and

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killed more products than other Mega

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caps 284 compared to Apple's 55 and

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Microsoft's 98 the follen include

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Google's stadia a cloud gaming service

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Google Plus a social networking platform

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Picassa remember that one a free photo

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sharing platform Google even announced

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it'll shut down the Google pay app later

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this year in a push to simplify its

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payment methods even it's Cloud business

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it's still a distant third compared to

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Amazon's AWS and Microsoft's Azure and

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less profitable in general the cloud

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they have is subscale compared to the

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other two big guys they got to take that

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margin from 7.6 to like 15 plus 7.6 is

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not acceptable you know you got to get

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serious here I mean AWS is close to 30

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you know Microsoft is able to raise

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margins almost every quarter God knows

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how Amy does it but that's what you're

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competing with for dollars despite many

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attempts in areas like messaging social

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media Enterprise and payments some of

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those products they rebranded and

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relaunched multiple times kind of like

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what we're seeing in generative AI from

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Bard to duet to Gemini the messaging has

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not been clear they have a messaging

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problem without question they're having

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a difficult job explaining how they've

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been in AI probably longer than any

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other company out

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there we've said this before Google has

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truly pioneered the modern era of AI

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this is the company that has owned Deep

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Mind for many many years it is is one of

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the Pioneers in artificial intelligence

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yes they've had some missteps and maybe

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that's because artificial intelligence

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is hard maybe it's simply really

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Innovative and you're going to make

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mistakes along the way that is part of

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innovation I think Google alphabet has

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the tools in place to succeed and thrive

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in artificial intelligence as we're

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publishing this its market cap is more

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than $1.5 trillion dollar and its stock

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has swung wildly around the AI narrative

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in both directions 8% slide after the

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Paris demo 4% pop post iio developer

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conference higher again on the Gemini

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launch and then lower again on the

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backlash it's developing its own

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in-house custom chips and just released

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an open- Source large language model

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perhaps gaining a new Edge in the race

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Gemini's botch roll out it may

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ultimately be just a blip on the AI

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radar or it could be looked back on as

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the moment Google lost its

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Mojo

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