EXCLUSIVE Magnus Carlsen Interview ft. GothamChess

Summary

在这段视频中，Gotham Chess 在多伦多的国际象棋冠军巡回赛总决赛上采访了世界排名第一的棋手、被认为是有史以来最伟大的棋手之一的马格努斯·卡尔森。视频涵盖了一系列问题，从轻松有趣到深思熟虑的问题都有，还包括了一个由Gotham的妻子露西想出的有趣环节，名为“棋手还是宜家家具”。卡尔森分享了他的职业生涯见解、个人喜好和对未来的展望。整个采访不仅为观众提供了对卡尔森的深入了解，也展示了他的幽默感和对棋局的独到见解。

Takeaways

• 😊 The interviewer was excited to interview Magnus Carlsen, the world's top chess player, in person for the first time.
• 😮 Magnus said it would take 20 pints of beer for the interviewer to beat him in a chess game.
• 😎 Magnus' ideal sponsor is Nike or Jordan since his Puma contract is ending.
• 😲 Magnus thinks he's been the world's best chess player since around 2012.
• 💤 Magnus said he gets 7-8 hours of sleep per night during competitions.
• 🍽 Magnus sometimes brings a personal chef to tournaments.
• 🏀 Magnus thinks LeBron James is the GOAT of basketball and Lionel Messi is the GOAT of soccer.
• 😕 Magnus said the Australian Open issue made Djokovic the tennis GOAT in his mind, over Nadal and Federer.
• 🤔 Magnus thinks Garry Kasparov is still the GOAT of chess.
• 👍 The interviewer was thankful for the insightful interview and plans to collaborate more with Magnus.

Q & A

马格努斯·卡尔森被认为是历史上最伟大的国际象棋选手吗?

是的,很多人认为马格努斯·卡尔森是历史上最伟大的国际象棋选手。他保持世界排名第一的位置超过十年,多次获得世界冠军。

马格努斯·卡尔森第一次成为世界排名第一的是在什么时候?

2008年9月,在西班牙毕尔巴鄂举行的一场国际象棋比赛中,马格努斯·卡尔森非官方地成为了世界排名第一。当时他只有17岁。

马格努斯·卡尔森是什么时候确信自己是世界上最棒的国际象棋选手的?

马格努斯说,在2012年秋天,他确信自己是世界上最棒的国际象棋选手。但在2010年,他就认为自己能在世界冠军赛中击败当时的世界冠军安安和托保罗夫。

马格努斯·卡尔森认为谁是他的最大竞争对手?

马格努斯·卡尔森认为他的最大竞争对手是前世界冠军维斯瓦纳坦·阿南德。

Outlines

00:00

🎤 对话世界顶尖棋手

这段视频中，主持人在多伦多与世界顶尖棋手、多次世界冠军马格努斯·卡尔森进行了一次深入的访谈。访谈内容涵盖了轻松的短问题到深入的思考性问题。卡尔森分享了他与啤酒的趣闻，梦想赞助商，以及他对于在不同领域成为最佳的看法。此外，他还谈到了自己的比赛策略，包括在高压赛事中的睡眠习惯和身体状况的重要性。

05:01

🏆 卡尔森的棋界之路

在这一部分，卡尔森回顾了他的棋手生涯，特别是他首次成为世界排名第一的时刻以及他对自己棋艺的自我评估。他还提到了拒绝参加候选人赛事直到2012年的决定，以及最终在2013年击败阿南德成为世界冠军的经历。此外，他分享了在高压赛事中的准备和睡眠习惯，以及对运动员身体状况和饮食的看法。

10:03

🤔 棋手还是宜家家具

在这个轻松有趣的环节中，卡尔森参与了一个“棋手还是宜家家具”的游戏，他需要猜测给出的名字是棋手还是宜家家具。这显示了他的幽默感和对棋界及其他领域的广泛知识。他还谈到了自己的赞助梦想，以及对不同运动和领域中最佳选手的看法。

15:03

🌟 超越棋盘的见解

在视频的最后，主持人分享了与卡尔森会面和访谈的个人感受，强调了这次经历对他意义重大。他也表达了对未来与更多顶尖棋手合作和创造内容的期待，以便让观众更深入地了解这些棋手的多面性格和生活，而不仅仅是他们在棋盘上的表现。

Keywords

💡马格努斯·卡尔森

马格努斯·卡尔森是世界排名第一的国际象棋选手，连续十多年保持这一地位，并且被许多人认为是有史以来最伟大的国际象棋选手。视频中提到他在多伦多的冠军国际象棋巡回赛中获胜，这一点再次证明了他在国际象棋领域的卓越成就。

💡采访

视频的主要内容是对马格努斯·卡尔森的采访。采访旨在提供一个有趣的对话，包括简短有趣的问题以及一些较长且发人深省的问题。通过采访，观众可以更深入地了解卡尔森的思想和观点。

💡国际象棋

国际象棋是视频讨论的中心主题。马格努斯·卡尔森作为国际象棋界的佼佼者，视频围绕他的职业生涯、成就以及对国际象棋的看法进行了深入探讨。

💡冠军国际象棋巡回赛

冠军国际象棋巡回赛是视频中提到的一个重要事件，马格努斯·卡尔森在此赛事中获胜。这一赛事展示了顶尖国际象棋选手之间的竞争，是评估他们技能的重要平台。

💡比赛策略

虽然视频中没有直接提到“比赛策略”这个词，但通过对卡尔森的采访，我们可以间接了解到他在比赛中的策略和思维方式，例如他是如何准备比赛、面对对手以及在高压下如何保持冷静。

💡职业生涯

视频中提到了马格努斯·卡尔森的职业生涯，包括他如何成为世界排名第一的国际象棋选手，以及他在国际象棋领域的多项成就。这一部分帮助观众理解卡尔森的成长过程和他在国际象棋历史上的地位。

💡赞助商

视频中提到了赞助商这一概念，卡尔森谈到了他对潜在赞助商的看法，特别是他提到了与Puma的合约即将到期，以及他对新赞助商的开放态度。这表明了顶尖运动员背后的商业和赞助活动对他们职业生涯的重要性。

💡竞争对手

在采访中，卡尔森提到了他的主要竞争对手，如法比亚诺·卡鲁阿纳，以及他如何看待与这些顶尖选手的竞争。这部分内容展示了国际象棋顶尖水平的竞争环境以及卡尔森对自己位置的自信。

💡个人生活

尽管视频主要关注卡尔森的职业生涯，但也间接提及了他的个人生活和兴趣，如他对足球的热爱、他的健康习惯等。这些细节增加了观众对他个人的了解和兴趣。

💡慈善

视频中提到了慈善这一概念，尽管卡尔森谦虚地拒绝了每次使用他的照片就捐款给挪威慈善机构的提议，但这表明了他对社会责任的看法。

💡健康与健身

卡尔森在视频中谈到了健康与健身的重要性，特别是在如何保持比赛期间的体能和精神状态。他提到了在世界锦标赛等重大比赛中带着厨师，以确保饮食健康，这反映了顶尖运动员对健康管理的重视。

Highlights

Interview with Magnus Carlsen, the world's number one rated chess player, revealing his thoughts, preferences, and unique insights.

Magnus Carlsen discusses the challenge of maintaining his top performance while drinking during a game.

Carlsen expresses interest in a sponsorship from Jordan, highlighting his openness to new sponsorship opportunities.

Reflections on the impact of Magnus Carlsen on the chess sponsorship landscape and his dominance in the chess world.

Magnus Carlsen's preference for soccer as an alternative field where he would like to be the greatest of all time.

Discussion on chess boxing and Carlsen's hypothetical price to participate.

Insights into Carlsen's personal preferences, from his drink of choice to his preferred chess playing platforms.

Carlsen's competitive mindset and his views on potential rivals in the chess world.

Magnus Carlsen's recollection of realizing he could be the best chess player in the world and his journey to the top.

The significance of physical fitness and diet in Carlsen's chess preparation and performance.

Carlsen's humorous take on using his image for thumbnails and his lack of desire to dominate chess content creation.

Rapid-fire questions revealing Carlsen's opinions on the GOAT in various sports and his personal preferences.

The 'Chess Player or Ikea Furniture' game, showcasing Carlsen's knowledge outside of chess.

Reflections on creating engaging media with chess personalities to provide insights beyond the game.

Carlsen's candid discussion on his aspirations, lifestyle choices, and the balancing act between professional chess and personal life.

Transcripts

ladies and gentlemen in this video I

interviewed Magnus Carlson the number

one rated chess player in the world for

more than a decade the multiple time

classical rapid and Blitz World Champion

and a player considered by many as the

greatest of all time we were in Toronto

for the Champions chess tour finale

which surprise surprise Magnus also

happened to win and I know Magnus has

been interviewed hundreds of times over

the course of his career so this was a

special moment for me not just because I

actually met him for the first time but

because I wanted to provide an interview

for him and ultimately for you the

viewer that would be an interesting

listen an interesting watch and I

believe that I have accomplished that

goal with a mix of short and fun

questions for him to answer but also

some longer and thought-provoking ones

as well also at the end we played a

segment that actually my wife Lucy

thought of which is titled chess player

or Ikea furniture with that said here's

the interview hi I'm Gotham chess and

I'm here with um uh sorry can we start

again

hi I'm Gotham chess and I'm here with

Magnus who is famous from uh Levy's

YouTube videos how many beers would it

take for you to drink for me to beat you

in a classical chess game that's a very

difficult question uh cuz I'd probably

sober up during the game so I'd probably

have to keep drinking probably start

with 20 and take it from there 20 okay

how what's the size of the cup um pints

wow okay do you have a dream sponsor um

my Puma deal is expiring so um I'm open

for um over for new ones in that um

sector but I I was recently at the

Jordan uh golf club so if Jordan Jordan

want to Common sponsor me I'd consider

it every other chess player has said any

sponsor because we don't get

sponsorships I'm sorry for my um you

destroyed two decades of chess players

back sorry about that if you could be

number one in the world or if you could

be number basically if you could be the

greatest of all time at anything else

what would it be soccer for sure soccer

okay that's an easy one name your price

if you have to chess box $10 million

okay what's your drink of choice

water past 10 p.m. also water yeah uh I

might go for um Diet Coke with ice and

lemon I like that as well do you prefer

to play chess on a computer over the

board or on your phone I rarely play on

my phone I I would say I prefer to play

on the computer in your entire career

have you ever had a day where you went I

think this guy might be as good as me no

uh well I mean not not not you know

since not the last 10 years for sure has

it ever been this guy might be kind of

close to me if I have a bad day yeah uh

I would say Fabia his best was um very

close in In classical for sure my other

question was going to be who do you

think is the second best chess player in

the world yeah I think Fabian corana is

the is the second second best player do

you remember the day you realized oh I

might be the best chess player on the

planet

that's a very good question uh I

remember the first time that I was

ranked number one in the world

unofficially um that was in Bilbo in

2008 late 2008 I didn't particularly

think that I was the best player then I

would say probably fall 2012 I was

absolutely certain that I was the best

player um but I did

think back in

2010 that I would have beaten either

player um topalo or Anan in in a world

championship match in retrospect I'm not

so sure 2010 would probably be the time

that I I thought yeah I'm I'm the best

player but I wasn't sure till 2012 hey

it's me again I know interrupting an

interview is slightly unconventional but

I wanted to explain magnus's answer in

Greater detail so you understand all the

context well the first thing Magnus says

is 2008 in bilb that is a chess

tournament that he played played in

Spain in September of 2008 and in that

tournament Magnus actually

unofficially became the number one

ranked player in the world for a couple

of days that's because in 2008 the

official rating lists were published

every 3 months look July and then

October so you could play chess for 3

months and the official rankings would

never come out but the players would

shuffle all up and down against each

other and he said that when he played

that tournament in Bilbo against some of

those best players in the world like

aronian RAB of Anand Ivano just to name

a few he didn't quite yet feel like he

was number one in the world but he broke

through for a second in fact in a New

York Times article that was published

the day before that tournament started

Magnus literally said that he thinks

Anand is a much better player than him I

found that fascinating now fast forward

to 2010 Magnus said that he thought he

could have beaten either player in a

world championship match Tov or Anand

yes he said in retrospect he's not so

sure but Magnus actually turned down the

candidates tournament in 2010 and 2011

which is Maybe not something that we all

know he declined to participate in the

candidate cycle for the world

championship actually multiple times in

his career until 2012 because the very

next year Magnus played in the

candidates ultimately won it and then

went on to defeat Vish Anand in 2013 so

it's interesting that by 2012 Magnus was

certain that he was the best player in

the world in 2010 he figured he could

probably beat either player playing for

the throne but in 2008 was Technically

when he first broke through and he was

only 17 years old anyway let's get back

to the interview I remember where I was

the day that you played the final round

in the candidates I don't remember much

from 10 years ago okay 2012 right 13

2013 was the candidates um I don't

remember much from 10 years ago I

remember I traveled that day on the New

York City subway to meet my friend to go

to the park and play handball and I we

were watching your game uh how stressful

was that day I would say I was almost

was too exhausted to be be stressed the

day after uh my game with rajabov was

the first day in several days that I

actually like slept fine but I was I I

just woke up and had no nervous or any

kind of energy so in retrospect I

probably should have um probably should

have forced the draw in in that game but

um yeah I also also almost didn't have

time to be stressed about the the out

come or or anything um cuz you know I

thought after I lost I thought it was

over and then I briefly checked the

position from yanuk Kik and uh yanuk was

winning so it only lasted like a minute

or or so that I was um that I was down

about the the results so no uh complete

exhaustion yes stressed not necessarily

at those high stakes events like World

Championship or that candidates how many

how many hours on average do you get to

sleep at night normally I sleep well um

especially if things are going well of

course but normally I I do sleep sleep

quite well in the world championship

I'll get solid 7even eight hours every

night with no melatonin no chamomile

just hit the yeah I don't know I that's

that seems pretty impressive I mean we

hear LeBron James spends Millions a year

on his body do you feel like you need to

do the same in chess diet Chef there's

some rumors or I don't know if you

confirmed it in in some interviews like

you bring a nutritionist or chef with

you you have like homecooked meals at

tournaments I I have brought uh a chef

to a few World Championships and a few

other tournaments um specifically in

places where we didn't think that the

local food would uh be necessarily at

the standard I i' I'd like but um yeah

normally I'd try and eat relatively

healthy U not too much um not too much

sugar apart from that that I I was

probably fitter before now I don't um

take care as much which I I kind of

should now cuz I'm a little bit older

and I I have less energy so I actually

need to be really fit to have a lot of

energy so yeah it's definitely one room

for improvement these days I'm going to

offer you a deal for every Magnus

thumbnail I make I have to donate 20

bucks to a Norwegian charity or any

charity of you're choosing no

no no no no that's that's okay I um I'm

a bit of a u narcissist anyway so I

enjoy it okay when are you overtaking

when are you focusing on content and

overtaking as the number one chess

Channel you have a dormant Channel with

a million subscribers uh no um I know no

wish for for that but uh I um I do want

to stream a bit more so that I can get

uh more more content out on on these

channels but um just you know for people

to have have something to to to enjoy

I'm going to name a sport you have to

tell me the greatest of all time

basketball LeBron James soccer Messi I

agree with both baseball Barry

Bonds okay football like American

football Tom Brady I guess okay yeah

good one uh tennis jokovic was it always

jokovic for you what you thought maybe

no it was after the um Australian Open

thing that he became the greatest for me

was it Nadal before feder probably

Federer but I always identified more

with the way the Nal plays Golf Tiger

poker dog Brunson that's a unique one

chess gar Kasparov are you allowed to

say yourself I don't know if I'm allowed

but I think Gary is the best of all time

still chess

boxing am on Hamilton we know the answer

to this one I think if you could be the

greatest of all time in a sport other

than chess what would it be yeah soccer

soccer what team would you play for

Madrid yeah for sure Saudi League can't

no I mean if they had money I would play

in Saudi for sure okay can I answer the

question about uh dream sponsor again uh

sure yeah uh what is your dream sponsor

uh Sovereign wealth fund of uh Saudi

Arabia okay we're going to play this or

that fiction or non-fiction non-fiction

window or aisle seat or you fly business

class there's no such thing um yeah I

used to

be big window guy yeah I'm still a

window go a window guy would you rather

go on a cruise or a road trip road trip

comedy or thriller comedy coffee or tea

tea but only slightly preferably neither

how do you get energized Sun love

it cats or dogs cats but I like dogs too

it's like a this or that is a little bit

tough with you you like everything

shower or bath oh shower for sure okay I

don't have the patience to take baths I

think adults taking baths is a weird

thing but they it's on here so uh are

you a morning person or a night owl

Night Owl for sure would you rather get

on a phone call or text message text

probably I feel like the answer for you

is neither feel like it's just usually

yes just go uh sunrise or sunset sunrise

winter or summer summer okay I don't

know maybe you know you're uh from

Norway uh I'm going to I'm going to

throw one in here um sauna or ice bath

both okay that's what you do in in

Norway that you go in the sauna and then

you take an ice bath and then you go

back in the sauna and you do that a few

times it's really nice uh best city in

Norway Oslo Oslo we're going to play

title chess player or Ikea furniture I

asked you how you think you're going to

do you seem confident I was at first but

now I'm a little less sure I'll start

with the first one profumo you see now

I'm already I'm already unsure perfumo

doesn't sound I mean most of the Ikea

names are Scandinavian per perfumo but I

haven't heard about perfumo chess player

going say Ikea furniture but I'm not

sure chess player oh

boy go with your gut keep in mind I

found some pretty obscure chess players

because I had to make sure you didn't

know them he's a Italian 2270 I'm going

to give you the tricky one first srom uh

srom uh I I mean definitely heard

heard I'm going to say that's a player

yes Swedish which is yeah I mean it's

obviously Swedish you can hear from the

name that it's Swedish but uh really s

means like south ah so and uh it's

written a bit differently in Danish and

Norwegian um ostano I think that's

Furniture you are correct you are I

think the first one to Guess that fast

Fabby needed to know if there were dots

on the o which kind of gave it away like

the the Swedish uh o and two dots yes

two out of three uh vesin vesin how do

you spell it v s k n VES skin I mean

that's like vque is purse in

Norwegian so I'm going to say furniture

yes correct three out of four zbi z a i

b i is that zet or z z z n like zebra

that's got to be a chess player yes do

you know who it is it's a Grandmaster Z

is a Grandmaster what's the first name

uh Amir Amir Z from tunisha or something

yes yes yes how does that ring a bell

you just know the name from somewhere

yeah I probably have seen it somewhere I

I

usually I thought I would know the name

of most Grandmasters in the world but

maybe not I don't know uh well I think

he was in IM until maybe five years ago

Fabiano actually played him in the World

Cup which is which is actually so yeah I

I mean it brings some kind of bell um

toal tal Ah that's

Furniture yeah that is Furniture tal uh

last two panelo p a n e l o and there's

there's no like uh dots at the end of

the no P that's not really a word I'm

going to guess chess player then you're

correct Marcelo panelo 2370 Argentina

okay last one furniture or chess player

callx and it's an a there's no no

there's no yeah no no I I try to avoid

those that would be too okay then I'm

going to say chess player Furniture yeah

sorry col can I can I see how you write

it yeah colx K I hope I didn't mess that

up oh for some reason I thought it was

KS at the end that was not easy yeah I

mean this is why the game exists I mean

six out of eight is still pretty good

yeah but I'm I have an advantage since I

sort of speak one one scan languages

okay well next big tournament we'll do

uh we'll we'll do the next one so folks

I hope you enjoyed this conversation and

I hope that I was able to ask some

questions that I think were slightly

non-traditional not something that you

hear year uh when chess players are

interviewed all the time uh this was a

very special one for me because really

only since 2020 have I become any form

of Personality out there on the internet

I've always been a fan and spectator of

Chess as well as a chess player and

teacher but being able to meet Magnus

and many other top players over the last

few years has been super special uh and

I look forward to creating more media

with them in the future because I think

that it's helpful for you the viewers at

home uh to get a lens into some of the

greatest chess players in the world

beyond the 64 squares that's all I have

for you today until next time and before

I go also a massive thank you to Magnus

uh he was in a great spirits and that

was probably because he won some chess

match earlier in the day so that

definitely made it easier uh but I look

forward to uh to having a conversation

in the future now you know the drill get

out of here