10 SCARY Sci-Fi Book Recommendations

Words in Time
22 Feb 202329:42

Summary

TLDRIn this thrilling Booktube collaboration, Jonathan is joined by Rachel from Shades of Orange to explore the chilling intersection of horror and science fiction. They delve into a diverse selection of scary sci-fi books, discussing titles like 'Hyperion' by Dan Simmons and 'The Handmaid's Tale' by Margaret Atwood, which range from cosmic horror to dystopian nightmares. The conversation also touches on lesser-known gems, providing a comprehensive guide for readers seeking a literary adrenaline rush.

Takeaways

  • πŸ“š The video is a collaboration between Jonathan and Rachel discussing scary science fiction books.
  • πŸ‘» Rachel admits to having a love for both science fiction and the dark, creepy, and disturbing elements often found in horror.
  • 🎒 Jonathan differentiates between different kinds of 'scary', noting that what frightens one person may not affect another in the same way.
  • πŸ•° The first book recommendation is 'Hyperion' by Dan Simmons, which features a terrifying creature called the Shrike and explores themes of body horror and AI technology.
  • 🌊 Rachel's first recommendation is 'Starfish' by Peter Watts, a claustrophobic sci-fi horror set in an underwater rig with morally complex characters.
  • πŸ‘½ 'Roadside Picnic' by the Strugatsky brothers is suggested for its eerie and mysterious zones left behind by aliens, creating a sense of suspense and existential dread.
  • πŸ“– 'The Handmaid's Tale' by Margaret Atwood is recommended as a dystopian novel that feels increasingly possible and relevant in today's society, causing fear through its plausibility.
  • πŸ“‘ '1984' by George Orwell is highlighted for its portrayal of a totalitarian government with constant surveillance, making it a classic dystopian tale that remains chillingly relevant.
  • 🀯 'Full Immersion' by Gemma Moore is a sci-fi horror novel that deals with postpartum depression and virtual reality, offering an emotionally raw and unsettling narrative.
  • 🌌 'Pandora's Star' by Peter F. Hamilton is noted for having a particularly shocking chapter amidst a grand space opera setting involving the disappearance of a star and alien encounters.
  • 🚒 'Ship of Fools' by Richard Paul Russo is a space horror novel that subverts expectations, focusing on suspense and an unsettling atmosphere aboard a seemingly abandoned ship.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of discussion in the video?

    -The main topic of discussion in the video is scary science fiction books, with a focus on recommendations from Jonathan and Rachel.

  • What is the relationship between Jonathan and Rachel in the context of the video?

    -Jonathan and Rachel are both booktubers who collaborate in this video to discuss and recommend scary science fiction books to their audience.

  • How does Jonathan describe the book 'Hyperion' by Dan Simmons?

    -Jonathan describes 'Hyperion' as a series with seven pilgrims traveling to the planet Hyperion, featuring the terrifying Shrike and elements of body horror and AI technology.

  • What is the premise of 'Starfish' by Peter Watts?

    -'Starfish' takes place on an underwater rig where the crew members are not the most desirable individuals in society, creating a claustrophobic and suspenseful atmosphere.

  • Why does Rachel recommend 'Roadside Picnic' by Katie and Boris Chugatsky?

    -Rachel recommends 'Roadside Picnic' for its eerie and tense mystery surrounding alien visitation sites and the existential questions it raises about humanity's significance.

  • What is the dystopian setting of 'The Handmaid's Tale' by Margaret Atwood?

    -In 'The Handmaid's Tale', a dystopian future is depicted where women who can conceive are treated as property and used for surrogacy by the wealthy.

  • How does Jonathan describe the feeling of reading '1984' by George Orwell?

    -Jonathan describes '1984' as a book that makes the reader feel the oppression of a totalitarian government with constant surveillance and severe consequences for disobedience.

  • What is the unique aspect of 'Full Immersion' by Gemma Moore that Rachel finds compelling?

    -The unique aspect of 'Full Immersion' is the author's personal experience with postpartum depression, which she incorporates into the story, making it emotionally raw and authentic.

  • What is the main theme of 'Ship of Fools' by Richard Paul Russo?

    -'Ship of Fools' is a space horror novel that explores themes of purposelessness and religious fanaticism aboard a ship wandering aimlessly in space.

  • What makes 'Tender Is the Flesh' by Agustina Bazterrica stand out as a horror recommendation?

    -'Tender Is the Flesh' stands out for its disturbing premise of a future where humans are used as a special type of meat, challenging readers' comfort levels and beliefs.

  • What is the general consensus on the 'The Three-Body Problem' series by Liu Cixin?

    -The general consensus is that 'The Three-Body Problem' series is a hard science fiction that raises existential and philosophical questions about humanity's place in the universe.

Outlines

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πŸ“š Introduction to Scary Sci-Fi Book Discussion

In this introductory paragraph, Jonathan and Rachel from the booktube channel 'shades of orange' set the stage for a discussion on scary science fiction books. Jonathan expresses his excitement about the crossover between sci-fi and horror, acknowledging his own preference for the dark and disturbing. Rachel, despite initially claiming to dislike scary content, admits her enthusiasm for the topic, highlighting the subjective nature of what constitutes 'scary'. They agree to focus on sci-fi elements to make the content more accessible to a general audience. Jonathan begins with a recommendation of 'Hyperion' by Dan Simmons, noting its scary aspects involving a mysterious creature called the Shrike and themes of body horror and AI technology.

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🌊 Starfish by Peter Watts: Underwater Horror

Rachel recommends 'Starfish' by Peter Watts, a sci-fi horror novel set on an underwater rig. She describes the setting as a place for society's outcasts, which adds to the story's dark atmosphere. The claustrophobic and deep-sea environment is portrayed as inherently scary, with the characters facing not only the dangers of the ocean but also the psychological strain of working in such a hostile environment. The book is part of a trilogy and is described as atmospheric and disturbing, though not overly terrifying.

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πŸ‘½ Roadside Picnic: Mysterious Alien Visitation

Jonathan's second recommendation is 'Roadside Picnic' by the Strugatsky brothers. The book explores the aftermath of an alien visitation to Earth, where mysterious and dangerous zones have been left behind. People venture into these zones, despite the risks, in search of alien artifacts. The story is not a traditional horror but has an eerie and tense atmosphere, with an undercurrent of existential dread about humanity's place in the universe.

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🚨 The Handmaid's Tale: Dystopian Fears

Rachel discusses 'The Handmaid's Tale' by Margaret Atwood, a dystopian novel set in a future where women are treated as property and used for surrogacy due to a decline in fertility rates. The story follows the life of 'Offred', highlighting the oppressive regime and the surveillance state. Rachel emphasizes the book's relevance and its chilling plausibility, noting how Atwood's speculative fiction is rooted in real-world possibilities.

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πŸ“‘ 1984: Totalitarian Dystopia

Jonathan's third recommendation is George Orwell's '1984', a classic dystopian novel that explores the theme of totalitarian government and constant surveillance. The story is known for its portrayal of a society where thought control and the manipulation of reality are the norm. Jonathan finds the book particularly scary due to its high stakes and the severe consequences of dissent.

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πŸ€” Full Immersion: Virtual Reality and Postpartum Depression

Rachel recommends 'Full Immersion' by Gemma Moore, a book that combines elements of sci-fi and horror with the author's personal experience of postpartum depression. The story involves a woman who enters a virtual reality therapy to cope with her condition. The book is noted for its emotional rawness and the exploration of the blurred lines between reality and virtual experiences.

🌌 Pandora's Star: Space Opera with a Horrific Twist

Jonathan's fourth recommendation, 'Pandora's Star' by Peter F. Hamilton, is a space opera set in a future with advanced technology like wormholes. The story involves the mysterious disappearance of a star and the subsequent encounter with aliens. While not primarily a horror novel, it contains a particularly shocking and horrific moment that left a strong impression on Jonathan.

πŸ›Έ Ship of Fools: Space Horror with a Twist

Rachel's next pick is 'Ship of Fools' by Richard Paul Russo, a space horror novel that subverts typical tropes of the genre. The story follows a crew on a ship that has lost its purpose and has been taken over by a religious group. The suspense builds as they explore an abandoned ship, with the narrative playing with the reader's expectations and creating an unsettling atmosphere.

🌌 The Three-Body Problem: Cosmic Horror and Philosophy

Jonathan's final recommendation is 'The Three-Body Problem' by Liu Cixin, the first book in the 'Remembrance of Earth's Past' trilogy. The novel is a hard sci-fi story that raises existential questions about humanity's place in the universe. Set against the backdrop of the Chinese Cultural Revolution, it involves strange occurrences affecting scientists and a secret mission sending messages into space.

πŸ₯© Tender Is the Flesh: Dystopian Cannibalism

Rachel concludes with a daring recommendation, 'Tender Is the Flesh', a dystopian novel where animal consumption is forbidden, leading to the government-sanctioned use of human meat. The story is told from the perspective of a man working in a production facility who is given a living human specimen to raise. The book is described as deeply unsettling and thought-provoking, challenging the reader's comfort zones and ethical considerations.

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Keywords

πŸ’‘Scary Sci-Fi

Scary Sci-Fi refers to a sub-genre of science fiction that incorporates elements intended to provoke fear or unease. In the video, this concept is the central theme, as the hosts discuss books that blend science fiction with horror to create a sense of dread or terror. For example, the series 'Hyperion' by Dan Simmons is mentioned for its scary elements involving the mysterious and deadly creature, the Shrike.

πŸ’‘Body Horror

Body horror is a genre that focuses on the grotesque and the abject, often involving the violation or transformation of the human body. In the context of the video, 'Hyperion' is noted for its inclusion of body horror elements, specifically with the 'cruciform,' a device that raises questions about the nature of life and the ethics of prolonging it through unnatural means.

πŸ’‘Dystopian

Dystopian fiction is a sub-genre of speculative fiction that explores societies characterized by oppression or error. The video mentions 'The Handmaid's Tale' and '1984' as examples of dystopian novels that present terrifying futures where individual freedoms are suppressed, and the state exerts total control over its citizens.

πŸ’‘Existential Crisis

An existential crisis is a moment at which an individual questions the meaning and purpose of their life or existence. In the video, 'Roadside Picnic' is discussed for causing an existential scare by posing questions about humanity's significance in the universe, especially in the face of indifferent or malevolent extraterrestrial beings.

πŸ’‘Virtual Reality

Virtual reality (VR) is a simulated experience that can be similar to or completely different from the real world. In the video, 'Full Immersion' by Gemma Moore is highlighted for its use of VR as a form of therapy, which leads to a narrative that is both emotionally raw and questions the nature of reality.

πŸ’‘Postpartum Depression

Postpartum depression is a type of mood disorder associated with childbirth, which can affect both physical and emotional well-being. The video discusses how 'Full Immersion' authentically portrays the experience of postpartum depression, adding a layer of emotional depth and relatability to the story.

πŸ’‘Space Opera

Space opera is a sub-genre of science fiction that emphasizes space warfare, melodramatic adventure, interplanetary battles, and risk-taking. 'Pandora's Star' by Peter F. Hamilton is mentioned in the video as a space opera with a particularly horrific moment that left a strong impression on the host.

πŸ’‘Cosmic Horror

Cosmic horror is a sub-genre of horror fiction that focuses on the idea that life is incomprehensible to human beings and that the universe is hostile or indifferent. The video touches on 'The Three-Body Problem' as an example of cosmic horror, where the vastness and mystery of the universe provoke existential questions and fear.

πŸ’‘Suspense

Suspense is the feeling of excited or anxious anticipation or suspense caused by someone saying or doing something that is surprising or not expected. The video describes 'Ship of Fools' as a book that plays with suspense, creating an atmosphere of unease and anticipation as the crew of a space vessel explores an abandoned ship.

πŸ’‘Special Meat

In the context of the video, 'special meat' refers to a dystopian concept from the book 'Tender Is the Flesh,' where human flesh is used as food due to a disease that has rendered animal meat inedible. This concept is used to provoke a strong emotional response and to explore themes of morality and societal norms.

Highlights

Introduction to the collaboration between Jonathan and Rachel discussing scary sci-fi books.

Rachel's confession of her love for scary things, despite not enjoying horror movies.

Jonathan's intention to focus on sci-fi elements that are scary to make the content accessible to a broader audience.

The importance of understanding that what is scary is subjective and varies from person to person.

Recommendation of 'Hyperion' by Dan Simmons, highlighting its scary aspects involving time tombs and the creature Shrike.

Discussion on 'Starfish' by Peter Watts, focusing on the claustrophobic and atmospheric horror of an underwater rig.

Jonathan's mention of 'Roadside Picnic' by the Strugatsky brothers, noting its eerie and mysterious zones left by aliens.

Rachel's choice of 'The Handmaid's Tale' by Margaret Atwood, emphasizing its dystopian and terrifyingly possible future.

Jonathan's pick of '1984' by George Orwell, discussing its oppressive and totalitarian themes that feel relevant today.

Recommendation of 'Full Immersion' by Gemma Moore, blending sci-fi with the raw emotion of postpartum depression.

Jonathan's mention of 'Pandora's Star' by Peter F. Hamilton, with a particular focus on a shocking chapter involving alien capture.

Rachel's choice of 'Ship of Fools' by Richard Paul Russo, a space horror with a unique take on the genre's tropes.

Jonathan's final recommendation of 'The Three-Body Problem' by Liu Cixin, praising its blend of hard sci-fi with existential questions.

Rachel's daring final pick, 'Tender Is the Flesh', a dystopian novel that challenges readers with its disturbing premise of human consumption.

The hosts' mutual appreciation for the discussion and their respective channels, encouraging viewers to explore more sci-fi content.

Transcripts

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if you're interested in scary sci-fi

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books you're in the right place hello

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booktube I'm Jonathan and today I'm

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joined by the amazing Rachel from shades

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of orange Rachel do you like scary books

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scary movies scary video games not at

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all no I'm kidding I love scary things

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so I was so excited when you invited me

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on for this topic because as anyone who

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follows my channel knows I not only love

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science fiction but I also have to but I

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also happen to have this strange love

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for the dark and creepy the dark and

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disturbing a lot of horror books and so

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it actually crosses over really nicely

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I'm going to try to be fair in this

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video and focus more on science fiction

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that's scary so that it's a bit more

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accessible to those of you I assume

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you're a regular audience may not

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necessarily read a lot of horror and so

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I definitely want to make sure that this

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is safe a safe space for everyone but I

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enjoy being scared it's fun what about

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yourself like do you watch this scary

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movie I don't watch many horror movies I

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don't I don't I don't mind the

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adrenaline like I can do roller coasters

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but you know I'm I do much better with a

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bungee jump than a jump scare I'm

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I get very easily scared so some of my

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recommendations probably gonna be more

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scary conceptually as opposed to

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actually terrifying I think Rachel's

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recommendations might be a little bit

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hairy on the on the scary meter that's a

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good point because you I even asked you

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before we got started being like okay

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well what do you mean by scary like

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what's what's the plan here what's our

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prompt and I wanted to make sure that I

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was going in the right direction and not

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going off of the feeding path but I

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actually really love that you're going

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to be talking about different kinds of

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scary because that's something that

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while I do read a lot of Horror

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there is such a difference when it comes

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to what one person will think is scary

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versus another it's very personal it's

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very subjective so maybe before we even

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get into this let me give a huge

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disclaimer that if you have read one of

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these books we're talking about and you

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say well that's not scary it's not scary

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for you it might be scary for someone

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else so keep that all in mind uh because

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that's something I run into a lot is

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that someone will say well this book

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didn't scare me and well maybe certain

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things scare you that don't scare me and

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vice versa so I think this will be a lot

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of fun to talk about

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absolutely well let's dive into some

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scary sci-fi books we're going to give

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five recommendations each I'll kick us

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off with one that you're probably

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familiar with it's one of my favorite

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series one that gets a lot of love from

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the Sci-Fi community and that is

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hyperion by Dan Simmons so a lot of

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people talk about this book they

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recommend it but I don't necessarily

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hear a lot of people always talk about

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how scary it is I thought it was pretty

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scary so Hyperion we have seven pilgrims

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traveling to the planet of Hyperion to

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visit the time tombs which are moving

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backwards in time and are guarded by the

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mysterious shrike and the shrike

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definitely one of the scariest aspects

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of this of this book of this series The

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strikes massive covered in spiky Thorns

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red eyes they got forearms even though

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the covers only depict him with two arms

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the first three books anyway this guy

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terrifying

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laws of space time physics don't apply

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to the shrike the shrike can kill you in

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an instant the strike can impale you on

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the tree of thorn tree of pain

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I found this like more upsetting than I

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was than I was prepared for and the

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series also has a lot of stuff to do

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with like body horror with the cruciform

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and then also like the threat of AI

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technology with the technicore and

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things like this so I think if you are

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into horror if you are into some scary

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things not the whole book of Hyperion

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not the whole series but there are going

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to be moments that I think are going to

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gonna scratch that horror itch for you

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that sounds so good I still need to read

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Hyperion but no one has ever told me

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that it has those scary elements so I

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would have moved it way off the TBR if

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someone had pitched that to me sooner

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because that sounds really fun it sounds

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cool like there's this like creature in

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there and I don't know yeah I love

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everyone's like it's the Canterbury

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Tales and someone sort of said it's a

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horror book or it's scary they would

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have gone to read a lot sooner

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I've seen that in every review but it's

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like which is cup I mean how many people

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have actually read the Canterbury Tales

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like how to watch

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maybe smarter more literary people than

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me but anyway yes Canterbury Tales meet

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sci-fi meets horror that's we'll say

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that that's the pitch yeah well I'm sold

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on that

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so should I go next yes what is your

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first recommendation all right I had to

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narrow it down I had more than five but

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the first one I want to go with is

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starfish by Peter watt have you read

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this one

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I know I haven't I haven't read any

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Peter Watts but blindsight is on the TBR

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ah you know that's one of my favorites

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so I could have gone with that one but I

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felt like starfish it better fit the

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prompt even though both of them could be

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classified as sci-fi horror So within

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the story it all takes place in this

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underwater rig and the idea is that it's

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deep in the ocean and it's just not a

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very desirable place to work so I love

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this setup because it's all about the

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idea that

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nice people don't go there to work on

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the rigs pretty much you either have to

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be this like low life of society you

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have to be someone who's been abused or

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has been abuser yourself or just had a

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terrible terrible life because otherwise

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you find a better job and so that's a

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whole setup for the story which I think

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frames it really interestingly because

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you don't have the character surrounded

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by nice people and they themselves are

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not nice and then I like to recommend

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this book as something scary just

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because you can imagine underwater deep

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in the ocean it's so claustrophobic you

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just can feel the ocean and the pressure

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just crushing on the characters the idea

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that if something goes wrong out when

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they're working on the rig they're in

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the same safety mechanisms in place and

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I just found the book scary as anything

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I often say actually I'm a terrible

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swimmer so anything involving the ocean

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is scary enough but I think even for

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those of you that hopefully have a

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better sense of swimming and a you know

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are a bit more adapt in the water that

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it's still terrifying when you get that

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far down because again so much can go

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wrong and it's kind of like a mystery

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like you're like oh who to trust and all

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that and I don't want to spoil much of

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it I'm someone who often likes to just

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give more of a feeling about a book than

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like a really long synopsis because the

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book itself is fairly short it's the

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first in the series and first in Trilogy

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specifically and you just kind of want

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to experience it for yourself but yeah

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claustrophobic atmospheric really messed

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up but not too scary I promise you

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actually would enjoy it I swear I

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promise

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I like the the kind of feeling of being

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under the water because I'm not

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certified but I've gone scuba diving a

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couple of times and it's really fun but

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when you're when you're a newbie they

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only let you go down like 20 feet 30

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feet and it's like okay if something

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were to go wrong you know I could

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probably swim up to the surface would be

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okay but you know if you're hundreds of

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thousands of feet deep especially as as

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you described not surrounded by the best

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people uh that might be a rather

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claustrophobic and uncomfortable feeling

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so

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uh yeah I'm gonna be reading Blindside

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in April so I might if I might have to

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add this one because that seems to be

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the main what's book that I hear

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recommended but I might have to add this

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one to the TBR as well that sounds kind

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of creepy yeah if you love Blindside I

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definitely think it's the next one to go

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awesome

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well for my second scary sci-fi book I'm

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gonna go with one that I read recently

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and that is roadside picnic by Katie and

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Boris chugatsky and this one it's

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definitely not out and out horror but

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there is

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aliens have come then visited Earth and

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there are these sites which people go

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into kind of off the books they're not

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supposed to go in there to explore and

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find things and there's this kind of

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mystery of why did the aliens come was

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it for sinister reasons were they just

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passing by do they not even care about

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humans

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but the science the zones that you can

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go into they're very mysterious they're

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very dangerous it kind of has this Eerie

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tense mystery about them and it feels a

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little bit like I think this was

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possibly an influence on Annihilation I

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haven't read the book but I watched the

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movie and it kind of reminded me and as

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I was going through the zone you know I

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I was I was kind of on the edge of my

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seat wanting to find out what was going

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to happen next what kind of weird thing

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was going to go down in the zone next

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and that also kind of existential crisis

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that the aliens cause was a little bit

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scary as well are we insignificant by

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comparison you know are they going to

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destroy us like do they would they not

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even notice us that's just how like

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insignificant we are as humans so yeah

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that kind of edge of the seat and then

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back of the Mind

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scare as well I got from roadside picnic

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oh that's interesting and the other one

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on my TBR

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then be a video of Shame for me all the

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Sci-Fi I need to read but I'm sharing

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good good

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um but yeah that sounds really

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interesting and I like again that you

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make the point of like something being

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scary there's different layers of that

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and that's almost like intellectually

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scary I would say yeah I love that

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awesome so my next pick is a little bit

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of an obvious one I promise I'll have

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some more under hyped ones as well but

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when I think scary science fiction my

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mind immediately goes to dystopians so I

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could have done a lot of different ones

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but the one I want to go with is the

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handmaid's tale by Margaret Atwood I am

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Canadian so I joke but it's part of my

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obligation to keep my citizenship is to

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constantly be recommending Margaret

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Atwood every single time I can and she

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of course is known in circles of saying

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that she doesn't write science fiction

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that is literary fiction and speculative

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fiction it's science fiction

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don't tell don't tell her that and so of

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course I think everyone knows the

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stories they'll kind of be very brief

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that is said in a dystopian future where

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women have become less fertile in

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general and so the women who are able to

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conceive and have children are treated

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as property by those that are more rich

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and they use them as kind of for

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surrogacy and so we follow a woman who

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is known as of Fred because she is

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simply Fred's property and it's her

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responsibility to Bear the children that

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will be owned or the children of him and

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his wife and

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yeah it's a terrifying book I read it

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years ago when I was a teenager myself

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because again that's what you do in high

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school is you read Margaret Atwood but

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then I read it again very recently the

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Canadian syllabus exactly you just

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basically read it again and again and I

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read it again quite recently in light of

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everything going on in the United States

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with some of the legal things I don't

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want to get too political here but I

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think everyone knows what I'm talking

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about and it's just frightening how

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accurate she was with some of the

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predictions she made how it sounds like

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the most far-fetched plot you could

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imagine and then when you're actually

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reading in the details she puts in

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you're like oh oh oh and it just that

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book is scary because it feels possible

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and that's the reason that Margaret

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Atwood always says that her books aren't

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science fiction they're speculative

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fiction is that she really posts the

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fact that everything that she writes is

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possible and often has roots and things

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that are already happening in the world

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today so that's her argument for it but

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regardless the book is absolutely

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terrifying I think it's gotten more

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terrifying as I've gotten older and more

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savvier and more aware of what's

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happening in the world and it completely

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holds up so if you haven't read Margaret

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Atwood that's a great place to start

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I didn't I didn't take the Margaret

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Atwood masterclass but I got all the

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YouTube ads for it and she's like I only

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include things in my books that have

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happened somewhere in the world

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throughout history so when people are

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accused of being far-fetched so I can

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say look this is where it happened

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um I haven't read the handmaid's tale

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but I have read oryx and Craig which is

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also in that kind of dystopia world and

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that was yeah that was pretty

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confronting that was a bit of a tough

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read at times some kind of scary ideas

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scary moments and yeah uh yeah I think

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I think she does that that rather well

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and yeah definitely need to handmaid's

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tale big big kind of dystopian book that

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I need to check off the list yeah you

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have to be in the mood for her

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dystopians and post-apocalyptic stories

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like with Orcs and Craig's I appreciate

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it but I remember reading it and just

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being like this is not the right time it

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was in the last few years and I was like

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I'll come back to this book again later

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it's a rough one for sure

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definitely well I

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I'll continue that theme I'll go with

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the dystopian dystopian theme because uh

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dystopians they're scary and I think so

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I made a video recently on some

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dystopian Classics and of the ones that

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I talked about the one that I think was

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the scariest for me was 1984. yeah so a

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lot of people probably read 1984 uh but

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I've been thinking about this one ever

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since I've read it it's obviously

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well known for its kind of like literary

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merits like it's historical importance

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it's kind of uh reflection of the time

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but also projecting into the future but

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I think this was like the best written

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of the dystopian Classics in terms of

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making you feel that oppression that

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that totalia totalitarian government

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where their surveillance is constant you

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can't do anything without being seen you

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can't not only do things you're not

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supposed to say things you're not

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supposed to you can't even think things

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that you're not supposed to and the

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consequences are very severe uh in terms

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of the the violence the torture the

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manipulation this is the book which of

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this dystopian Classics which I felt

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like had the highest Stakes it's like if

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I got caught doing the wrong thing I

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would not want it to be in the universe

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of 1984. so if you like dystopian books

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and you haven't read 1984 for some

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reason I think it lives up to the hype I

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think it's definitely a must read I

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completely agree with that's one again I

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read in high school between the Margaret

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Atwood books and I think it's everyone

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should read it because everyone goes

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around saying oh it's 1984 or big

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brother is watching and all that and I

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do think people need to know where those

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references are coming from and I think

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it completely held up I'm not always the

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biggest fan of Classics in the past I

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can struggle with them but that one is

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just solid it just it you know it rings

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through today just as much as it did

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when it was written

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awesome

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what is your third recommendation all

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right going for something a little bit

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more underhyped hopefully one that a lot

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of your viewers haven't heard of or read

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and that is full immersion by Gemma

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Moore and this is a sci-fi horror book

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but I don't think it's too scary it's

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scary but it's it's I think it's

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approachable and this story is written

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by a woman who is actually bringing a

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lot of herself into the story uh the

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story itself follows a woman who has

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just given birth and is dealing with

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postpartum depression and so she decides

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to take on this virtual reality therapy

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to try to work through this and this

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book is so

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um authentic because the author really

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brings her own experience her own

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postpartum depression that she was

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dealing with and she wrote this book

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through that so that's part of what I

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find makes this book so scary is the

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fact that it feels incredibly

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emotionally raw the author just lays

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herself out on the page and is very open

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about the dark thoughts that she has and

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it's a tough book to read but it's

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excellent and then of course we get into

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the actual science fiction Elements

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which are probably what your viewers are

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more interested in so again we have the

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virtual reality and we as the reader get

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to see her within the reality and the

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question of like is this actually real

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is this happening but then we also get

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the framework of getting to see what is

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happening outside of that so those are

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actually putting on this experiment and

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this book read to me so much like the

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movie I hope you've watched it

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Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

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the one with Jim Carrey yes and so it's

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definitely his own but you can tell that

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it's inspired by that and so it has

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those off-kilter creepy Vibes where

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again you don't really know what to

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believe and it's just about you know

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if something is in your mind is it real

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or you know does there does it actually

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have

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is it actually tangible it's so hard to

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describe but it's just a brilliant book

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I love that movie and so anything that

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reminds me of that is just equally

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brilliant and like I said it just has

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layers to the story and I think I found

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it scary again because especially as a

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mother myself having those darker

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thoughts and going through a lot of that

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myself and just really be able to look

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back and again just not being able to

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trust your own mind and I don't know

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it's it's it hits me on a whole lot of

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levels so that's one I definitely

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recommend it's a newer release it came

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out in 2022 so hopefully it's a new

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recommendation for a lot of people

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very interesting there's a couple of uh

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things that you mentioned there which

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stood out to me one was that the person

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the author was writing from their own

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experience obviously great writers I

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think can create uh imaginary scenarios

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based on uh research or other things but

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there does some seem to be something

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about a personal experience coming

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through like often I've read a book

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without knowing much about the author

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and I was like oh the description of

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this was really powerful and then I read

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up on the author and

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you know they they went to war

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themselves or you know they they had

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like you know depression or suicide in

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their family or something you know

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there's it's it's directly affected and

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then and that's put directly on the page

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I think you know just kind of adds to

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the power of of what they're talking

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about and the second thing was that that

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feeling of not knowing what's real or

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not real which I think is a great aspect

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of a number of sci-fi novels it's

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something that I really like about some

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uh Philip K dick novels that sense of

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surreal weird what's real not what's not

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real what is it are you influenced by

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drugs or technology are you just crazy

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or is everybody else crazy uh so I yeah

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I love that kind of kind of weird aspect

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coming through in in my sci-fi books

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yeah it's one of my favorite sci-fi

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horror tropes it's exactly it's like can

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you trust your own mind and it works in

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so many movies and books and it's one

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that I've seen over and over again but I

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never get tired of it it's so good

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awesome well for my next recommendation

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I'm gonna go with one that is not

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particularly scary overall but there was

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one chapter that left me absolutely

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Shook and that is Pandora's Star by

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Peter F Hamilton

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so this is book one of a duology Pandora

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star for a few hundred years in the

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future where technology like wormholes

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have been invented and off in the

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distance a star disappears

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think okay that's a bit weird let's go

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check this out you know what's going on

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there what does that mean for Humanity

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and this isn't too much of a spoiler

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because at the start of the book you

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find out that that aliens exist and at

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some point

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a person is captured

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and anytime you get captured if I would

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if I were to get captured I wouldn't be

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too psyched about that but I think you

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would have sort of an understanding of

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what humans are capable of you're like

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okay I've seen this in a movie here's

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none of it's good for me but here here's

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sort of a potential range of things that

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could go down

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but you you get captured in space who

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knows what's gonna happen to you and

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it it absolutely blew my mind yeah I was

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I was stunned for hours after reading

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that chapter so

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not really horrifying in in general more

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just like a general big Grand Space

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Opera but with one really really cool

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horrific moment

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oh now well it's only my TBR surprise

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surprise and I'm going to be reading the

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whole book waiting for that part but if

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you can make such a good point that I

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think some of the scariest scenes I've

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read in books aren't necessarily in

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books that are overall scary but I think

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again a really talented author can make

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a really interesting isolated scary

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moment and often perhaps those are some

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of the scariest because they're not

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expected if I pick up a horror book I

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expected the author to be trying to

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scare me the whole time if I pick up

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something else that I don't think is

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labeled as horror or sci-fi horror or

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something like that I'm more likely to

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be bothered by something because I kind

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of let my guard down if that makes sense

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gotcha well

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I'll be interested to hear your

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reactions to this one yeah I'll send you

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my horrified thoughts when it comes up

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uh awesome what do you have for us next

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Rachel next

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I go with Ship of Fools by Richard Paul

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Russo and this is another science

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fiction horror book and I think it's a

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little bit more off the beaten path I

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believe it has a different

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um title and cover in the UK so maybe

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you wanted to look that up uh but

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basically this follows a ship that have

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lost their purpose in space they are on

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a ship and they no longer know what

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their mission is they are just wandering

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around quite aimlessly the ship has been

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taken over by this religious group I

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believe they're Catholic and you just

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have these religious figures that are

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trying to give them meaning and so

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that's the setup for the book and then

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it turns into more of a space horror

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when they come across this supposedly

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abandoned ship and they managed to go

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inside of it and look around and of

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course I'm just gonna say things go from

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there as you would expect in a space

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horror book but I will say that probably

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a lot of people watching this have seen

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a lot of the really classic like Alien

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movies and other space horror that is

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out there and this one is different it

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definitely plays with the tropes but it

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doesn't quite go where you expect

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and I think what I like so much about

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this book is the fact that it more plays

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with suspense and it's more about

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creating that atmosphere right from the

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beginning again there's something

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unsettling about this crew they don't

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know what they're doing or why they're

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there and it's just it feels slightly

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wrong the entire time you're reading it

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and that's not in as farther away at all

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it's just simply how you feel when

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you're reading it you're like this isn't

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right and so I like it because again it

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sounds like a very classic trophy space

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horror but it's so unique and you just

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have to experience it for yourself it's

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one that I love and of course when

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you're actually going into the ship and

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trying to figure out what's going to be

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there and all of that anticipation again

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this book is all about the build and

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you're just waiting for it because again

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it plays with the tropes they're like

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all right give me you know I know what's

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coming give it to me and it it's Unique

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I know that sound and that is not a good

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sound exactly oh it's so fun so I think

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I would actually love to see you read

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that one I could see you having

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interesting reaction to it

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oh interesting I'm definitely definitely

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adding all of these to the TBR and when

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I'm feeling brave enough

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oh I'll give it a go

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uh awesome well for my let me see for my

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fifth and final scary sci-fi book one of

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my favorite series one that I always

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enjoy talking about and that is the

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three body problem the first book in the

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remembrance of Earth's past Trilogy by

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XI Shin Liu and this one is kind of

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Cosmic Cara it's kind of it created a

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lot of existential questions for me kind

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of really questioning my understanding

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of physics of mathematics of space the

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universe

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humans are kind of place within the

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universe

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uh for those that don't know the quick

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premise is that

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kind of set against the cultural

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backdrop of the Chinese Revolution weird

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things start happening to prominent

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scientists and that could be connected

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to this secret mission that is sending

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messages out into space

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and

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this book is is a this series is a hard

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Sci-Fi series but I think it also really

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balances things nicely with interesting

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philosophical questions so it's not just

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a scientific exercise it's like a

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scientific exercise that has like

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real thought-provoking mind-bending uh I

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kind of just need to like hold my knees

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and just kind of rock back and forth

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while I think about this series for a

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while kind of Vibes yeah

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is that one you've read Rachel I have

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I've read the first book but shamefully

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I still need to finish out the trilogy

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which everyone says the second book is

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even better

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I think that the sequels were kind of

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bigger and better in terms of the ideas

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that's what everyone says they're like

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they say like the first book is just set

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up and so I don't know what my problem

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is I want to continue on story my life

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you know and then I get distracted by

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some other book yeah but that's

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interesting I admit and that's where

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again I definitely see that like you

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know scariness is like very unique to a

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person that it's not one I would have

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thought of but I don't mean it in a bad

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way I'm just like oh I hadn't thought

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about that as a scary book I thought it

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was super interesting

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yeah oh I love that yeah I'll be I'll be

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Keen to see see your thoughts uh when

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you get to the sequels it's yeah it's

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it'll it'll make your brain bleed that's

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what I've heard and I kind of feel like

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it's one where I read the first book but

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I didn't really know what I was getting

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myself into everyone gives us a short

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synopsis and so I feel like it's almost

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one where I need to see where the series

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goes and then go back to the beginning

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and once I'm back there then I'll

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actually know what's going on hopefully

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or my brain will be bleeding by then

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yeah

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yeah maybe that's a scary part of this

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book

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now I get it

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yeah I think it'll be one that I I'd

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like to do a reread for I think I think

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I'd pick up a lot on the uh a second

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time around

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uh so there we go coming to our fifth

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and final recommendation Rachel what do

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you have for us okay well I feel like

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I'm almost cheating

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on brand and go a little bit left field

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is one I almost don't recommend to you

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Jonathan but I want to lean a little bit

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more into the horror side and so my

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final pick is another dystopian but this

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one is pretty intense and that's called

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Tender Is the Flesh and this is set in

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an ambiguous future where the animal

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meet in this world has become impossible

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to consume it's basically dangerous it's

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infected by something and so rather than

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becoming vegetarian or vegan like you

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know normal people would do instead the

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government allows the production of

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special meat which I don't know if you

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need to worry about your channel

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monetization I've given up on YouTube

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it's used to me but basically you can

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imagine they commission that certain

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humans are able to be used as special

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meat and for production and so the story

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is told from the production I'm sorry

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Jonathan you're probably dying over

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there very good I like it you're just

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like oh why did I ever let her on

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um but basically the story is told from

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the perspective of a man who works in

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the one of the production factories and

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he understandably is isn't always

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feeling great about his job and you know

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it starts to have some feelings and

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mixed feelings about everything that's

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happening

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and then this becomes more complicated

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when one of his co-workers I believe

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gives him a special meat specimen that's

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still alive to raise in his house and so

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he has this young woman special mate

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that he goes to live with him this book

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is definitely one of the most mark this

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book is definitely one of the most

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messed up and disgusting books I've read

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but it also really made me think it

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actually made me question why I eat meat

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it made me think about becoming a

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vegetarian or vegan and as someone who's

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a pretty die-hard carnivore that says a

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lot so this one I'll be honest is a

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little bit of left field it's a little

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bit of a kind of fun cheeky end one

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because if you want a scary sci-fi

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horror book this is it it may not be for

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everyone and I completely respect anyone

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who chooses to pass on this one I think

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everything else we recommended is great

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but for Jonathan when you asked me to be

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on here I was like oh I wonder if I can

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get away with recommending this book and

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so I did it so if you're going to really

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really want to lean into it if you

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really want to be scared I pretty much

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dare anyone to read this book and not

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feel uncomfortable at certain points

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because it will make you feel things and

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not in a good way

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I like it I it's perfect for this video

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I think it's a great recommendation it's

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the kind of thing where like without any

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context if you just came up to me like

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oh hey Jonathan check out this book it's

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called Tender Is the flesh no way I can

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tell already like hey hey oh there's

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this 8 30 screening of this great movie

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Jonathan you love it Tender Is the flesh

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it's a romance it's beautiful you'll

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love it I'll catch you next time I'll

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I'll with Toy Story five I'll see you

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there pal

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um

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but no I think this is a great premise

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eating people uh

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it's yeah it sounds like it sounds kind

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of like silly and weird and gross and

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fun but also kind of thought provoking

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at the same time uh which is kind of fun

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and I'm sure there's some weird

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sci-fi stuff in there as well so yeah if

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you clicked on this on this video I

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think and wanting some scary books and

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you're like ah these don't sound scary

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enough then maybe this is the one to

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kind of turn it up or not

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uh awesome I was gonna say well it's

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good I left that to last because where

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do you go from there right yeah

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apparently be eating people yeah uh

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awesome well that was a lot of fun

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everybody go check out Rachel's Channel

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shades of orange if you like sci-fi

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horror all kinds of good stuff and

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yeah

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I don't really have anything else Rachel

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that's good I think I left you

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speechless and for anyone who's checking

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out your video from my channel if you're

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new to subscribe to me please go and

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actually click subscribe down below I

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love Jonathan's Channel I'm actually

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shouting him out I think next week but I

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pre-filmed that which is the only reason

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I'm not talking about this video and

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that one but definitely it was a lot of

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fun to do this and like I said hopefully

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you didn't regret it too much by the end

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but when it comes to talking scary

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sci-fi I was pretty honored that you've

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thought of me because this is kind of my

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favorite thing so this was so much fun

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to do thanks again Jonathan yes this is

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a lot of fun Rachel did a better job of

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plugging my own channel than I do anyway

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listen to Rachel click all the buttons

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you can find more sci-fi contents over

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there foreign

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