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Summary
TLDRAMD launches the Ryzen AI HX series processors, aiming to compete with top brands in the laptop market. The new Zen 5 architecture features three processors with impressive specs, including a powerful NPU and configurable TDP. The Ryzen AI series shows efficiency and performance gains in multi-core tests, excelling in apps like Photoshop and Lightroom. However, gaming performance on integrated graphics needs improvement, and the 'AI' branding seems more of a marketing move. The processors show promise for future AI capabilities but currently have limited real-world applications.
Takeaways
- ๐ AMD is launching a new series of laptops headlined by the Zen 5 architecture, aiming to compete with top brands like Intel, Apple, and Qualcomm.
- ๐ Three processors are being launched: Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 with 12 cores and 24 threads, HX 375 with a faster CPU, and Ryzen AI 9365 with two fewer cores and threads.
- ๐ All processors share a more powerful Neural Processing Unit (NPU) and a configurable TDP of 15-54 Watts with a 28 Watts default setting, focusing on efficiency.
- ๐ป The Ryzen AI series is designed to be power-efficient, which could make it a strong contender against Apple's M-series processors in the ultra-portable market.
- ๐ In performance tests, the Ryzen AI processors showed impressive efficiency and power consumption, outperforming the Intel Core Ultra 915h and other competitors.
- ๐ง The Ryzen AI 9365 consistently outperformed the technically faster HX 370 in certain tests, suggesting that not all performance metrics scale linearly with clock speed.
- ๐จ For applications like Photoshop and Lightroom, the new Zenbook laptops with Ryzen AI processors demonstrated significant performance improvements over other thin and light Windows laptops.
- ๐ Cinebench tests showed the Ryzen AI processors leading in multi-core performance, with the HX 370 and 365 significantly outperforming Intel CPUs.
- ๐ง The integrated video coding engine (VDC) in AMD's processors has been improved, now capable of outperforming Intel's Quick Sync for the first time.
- ๐ While the Ryzen AI processors showed good performance on battery, there's room for improvement in power allocation to the integrated graphics during gaming scenarios.
- ๐ฎ In gaming tests, the Ryzen AI processors' performance varied, suggesting that power management strategies could impact their gaming capabilities.
Q & A
What is the main focus of AMD's new series of laptops?
-The main focus of AMD's new series of laptops is to compete with the best from Intel, Apple, and Qualcomm in the light market, featuring the new Zen5 architecture.
What are the key features of the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 processor?
-The Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 processor features 12 cores and 24 threads, with clock speeds ranging from 2 GHz to 5.1 GHz.
How does the Ryzen AI 9 HX 375 differ from the HX 370?
-The Ryzen AI 9 HX 375 is essentially the same as the HX 370 but with a faster processing unit.
What are the similarities between the new Ryzen AI processors?
-All new Ryzen AI processors share a vastly more powerful NPU than the previous generation and have a configurable TDP ranging from 15 to 54 watts, with a nominal default power setting of 28 watts.
How do the new Ryzen AI processors compare to Intel's Core Ultra 915h?
-The Ryzen AI processors are intended to compete against Intel's Core Ultra 915h, but a better parallel would be the Core Ultra 165 and 155h due to similar power envelopes.
What is the significance of efficiency in the new Ryzen AI processors?
-Efficiency is critical for ultra-portable laptops because low power leads to less heat production, making these laptops cooler and quieter.
How do the Ryzen AI processors perform in lightly threaded applications?
-The Ryzen AI processors show a significant uplift in lightly threaded performance, matching or surpassing many other processors, except for Apple's highly tuned M3 processor.
How do the Ryzen AI processors fare in multi-core tests like Cinebench R23?
-In multi-core tests like Cinebench R23, the Ryzen AI 9365 can match the 8840 HS while consuming less power, and the HX 370 achieves a significant lead.
What are the new integrated GPU features in the Ryzen AI series?
-The new integrated GPU features in the Ryzen AI series include the revised RDNA 3.5 architecture, allowing these processors to beat Intel's Quick Sync in video encoding and decoding.
What are the implications of the new NPU in Ryzen AI processors?
-The new NPU in Ryzen AI processors is powerful on paper but has little real-world use for most buyers at present, making it mostly a marketing feature.
Outlines
๐ป AMD's Ryzen AI Series: A New Powerhouse for Laptops
AMD introduces a new series of high-performance processors for laptops, the Ryzen AI series, with the Zen 5 architecture, aiming to compete with the best from Intel, Apple, and Qualcomm. The series initially includes three processors: the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 with 12 cores and 24 threads capable of running up to 5.1 GHz, the HX 375 with a faster clock speed, and the Ryzen AI 9 65 with fewer cores and threads. All share a powerful Neural Processing Unit (NPU) and a configurable TDP from 15 to 54 Watts. The focus on efficiency could potentially make these processors a game-changer for AMD, reminiscent of Apple's M-series impact. The script also mentions a video sponsor, the Tower 300 case, highlighting its unique design and features.
๐ Efficiency and Performance: Ryzen AI's Dual Focus
The Ryzen AI series is designed with a focus on efficiency, which is crucial for ultra-portable laptops. The processors are tested against Intel's Core Ultra 915h and other competitors, showing that they sip less power even in high-performance modes. The testing was conducted on two Zenbook s16s, one with the HX 370 and the other with the HX 365. The results indicate that the Ryzen AI processors are the least power-hungry Windows-based devices tested, which could be significant for cooling and performance in compact laptops. However, while they can't compete with Apple's M3 processor, they offer impressive performance in applications like Photoshop and Lightroom, outperforming other thin and light Windows laptops.
๐ฎ Gaming and Graphics: The Ryzen AI Series' Integrated GPU Performance
The Ryzen AI series includes an updated integrated GPU based on the RDNA architecture, with the 880m and 890m models. While the synthetic benchmarks show improvements, the real-world gaming performance is mixed, with some CPU-focused games showing significant wins for the Ryzen AI processors, while others show the processors struggling against the competition. The inconsistency in performance suggests that power allocation strategies for the integrated graphics may vary between laptop manufacturers, affecting gaming performance. The script also points out that the 'AI' in the processor's name has little real-world application for most buyers at this time, and availability of laptops with these processors will be limited until later in the year.
๐ A Promising Future for AMD's Ryzen AI Processors
The video concludes with a positive outlook on AMD's Ryzen AI processors, noting their potential for the future despite some current limitations. The processors have shown top performance for today's apps and could become even more powerful when running at higher wattages. The script emphasizes the need for laptop manufacturers to optimize power distribution to the integrated graphics for better gaming performance. It also mentions the irony of the 'AI' branding, which currently offers little practical use. The video ends by inviting viewers to share their thoughts on the Ryzen AI processors' performance and anticipates an intense competition in the market for the rest of the year.
Mindmap
Keywords
๐กZen5 architecture
๐กRyzen AI 9 HX 370
๐กNPU
๐กTDP (Thermal Design Power)
๐กCinebench R23
๐กRDNA 3.5 GPU architecture
๐กPerformance per watt
๐กIntegrated Graphics
๐กBattery life
๐กZenbook S16
Highlights
AMD is launching a new series of laptops featuring the Zen 5 architecture, competing against Intel, Apple, and Qualcomm.
Three processors are launching: Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, HX 375, and AI 9 365, with varying core counts and clock speeds.
All processors feature a significantly more powerful NPU and configurable TDP between 15 and 54 Watts.
Zen 5 architecture aims for high efficiency, potentially being AMD's 'Apple M series' moment.
Zenbook S16s with HX 370 and 365 processors are noted for their low power consumption even in high performance modes.
The Ryzen AI series aims to compete with Intel's Core Ultra 915h and 155h, as well as Apple's M3 processor.
Ryzen AI laptops are among the least power-hungry Windows-based devices tested, which is beneficial for ultra-portable laptops.
The Ryzen AI 9 365 outperforms the HX 370 in single-thread performance despite having fewer cores and threads.
New Ryzen processors offer significant performance improvements in applications like Photoshop and Lightroom.
Ryzen AI processors achieve high performance per watt, setting a new benchmark for Windows-based laptops.
The integrated video coding engine (VDC) in Ryzen AI processors now outperforms Intel's Quick Sync.
Ryzen AI processors show potential in gaming performance, though improvements are needed in power allocation for integrated graphics.
Ryzen AI processors deliver impressive performance on battery life, matching or exceeding older Zen 4 processors and Intel's offerings in certain scenarios.
Despite the AI branding, the NPU's real-world use for most buyers is currently limited, acting more as a marketing feature.
Availability of Zen 5 laptops will be limited until October, with specific models being exclusive to certain retailers.
Transcripts
instead of yet another refresh or
Rebrand AMD is finally launching a brand
new series of laptops ofp use they're
headlined by the new zen5 architecture
and it's meant to go head-to-head
against the best from Intel apple and
even Qualcomm in the light market now
initially there will be three processors
launching the ryzen AI 9 HX 370 which
has 12 cores and 24 threads that can run
from 2 GHz all the way up to 5.1 GHz the
HX 375 is just a copy and paste job with
a faster puu meanwhile the ryzen AI 9365
gets uh two less cores four fewer
threads and a 100 MHz cut in its single
core clock speed it also comes with a
cut down 880m integrated GPU now two
major things they all share in common
are a vastly more powerful npu than the
previous generation and a configurable
TDP of between 15 and 54 Watts with a
nominal default power setting of 28 wats
obviously one of the primary goals was
to focus on efficiency so STS point and
Zen 5 architecture could actually maybe
make these processors amd's Apple M
series moment but let's take a moment to
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all linked below okay so power means
everything which is pretty obvious
considering all the laptops that we've
been seeing lately on the market so the
ryzen AI series they are meant to like
The Benchmark charts on fire they'll
even be fighting an uphill battle
against Intel's core Ultra 915h because
the Intel chip has a much higher power
envelope so the better parallel would be
the 165 and the
155h also for testing we got two Zenbook
s16s one with a flagship HX 370 and the
other one uh with the 365 this is
technically a thin and light laptop but
with a massive 16-in screen um so its
footprint is a lot bigger than typical
13 and 14in devices we see in this
segment um the specs are almost
identical too with the only major
difference other than the huge price
graap uh which is the memory allocation
but even in it's a slightly larger
chassis check out how much little power
these chips need even with the highest
performance modes they sip a lot less
power than the ultra 7 155h in the XPS
13 and Zenbook 14 OLED they even save 5
wats versus the ryzen 78840 HS which
might not seem like much but in an ultra
compact laptop it makes a huge
difference guys I mean nothing can
compete against Apple's M3 processor
here and I also need to mention the x1e
78100 since Qualcomm doesn't allow for
direct power monitoring bring up their
chip the numbers you see here is how
much the entire device pulls from
between the USB port and the power brake
so it can't be directly compared to the
rest of the results I should also
mention how we're testing other CPUs
against the ryzen AI series because
input power varies so much from one
laptop to another uh it's very
challenging to do Apple to Apple CPU
testing across different devices so our
intent was to find as many thin and
lights that use similar power envelopes
to the Zenbook s16s and even then the
ryzen AI laptops were still the least
power hungry windows-based devices we
have ever got our hands on and that
could be a very very good thing because
if the MacBook Air proves anything high
efficiency CPUs are absolutely critical
for Ultra portable laptops since low
power leads to less heat being produced
so these are two of the coolest running
laptops in this category and more
importantly their Peak temperature are
significantly lower than anything we've
tested before these are also some of the
quieter laptops here as well at least in
their highest performance mode but every
laptop here sounds like a jet engine
compared to the passively cooled MacBook
Air now I think you all have one thing
in your heads that's also been bothering
my mind as well and that's efficiency
isn't everything Apple's M series major
strength is their ability to deliver
extremely good performance despite
sipping back a lot less power than CPUs
from Intel and AMD I mean Asus can run
these ryzen AI chips at just 33 Watts
but does that completely kneecap their
performance well we'll have to remember
when compared to the Zenbook 14 with its
8840 HS Asus is using about 15% less
power for their HX 370 and 365 based
laptops and a whole lot less than
similar laptops based on the ultra 7
155h meanwhile these chips have more
cores and threads than Zen 4 Series
chips those extra cores do count for
something though and in an all core test
like cinebench R23 the ryzen AI 9365 is
able to at least match the 8840 HS while
consuming less power the HX 370 Sprints
to a pretty massive lead as well and
compared to the Intel CPUs well it isn't
even close even with those being more
power hungry moving on to something like
cinebench 2024 and the lead gets even
bigger with the two ryzen AI chips way
way out in front the only thing that
beats them is the x1e
78100 now when we switch to
single-threaded results the two zen5
chips pretty much dominate everything
else out there except the 8 core M3
processor in the MacBook Air Apple has
just highly tuned that for lightly
threaded workloads and because of that
it'll walk all over most x86 CPUs now
one interesting thing to note is that
with our2 systems at least uh the ryzen
9 365 was consistently ahead of the 370
but still what AMD has done here is
really really impressive and the lightly
threaded performance uplift along with
some internal changes have some huge
benefits in applications like Photoshop
where the new zenbooks just demolish
every other thin and light Windows
laptop we've tested the same thing goes
for Lightroom where the HX 370 and 365
give you almost unbelievable numbers
that come close to the MacBook Air M3
they look like they're from a completely
different era as the meteor Lake CPUs
but those were launched about eight
months ago in typical office apps they
perform pretty well but the spread
between all these processors is like
splitting hairs a few seconds here and
there but nothing really extreme guys
there is one consistent winner though
and that's the ryzen 9 365's dominance
over the technically faster HX 370 now
this shouldn't come as a surprise though
since the cinebench results showed our
365 system it's a little bit faster in
single thread performance and office
apps certainly aren multi-core focused
when you get into heavy multi-core Focus
outputs those extra threads really do
come in handy but I also want to focus
on something else here both ryzen
processors are able to get these kinds
of results while needing significantly
less power than the competition their
raw performance per watt isn't anything
near what Apple can deliver with their
silicon but it is a new high Benchmark
for Windows based laptops and that's
saying a lot amd's integrated video
coding engine or V DC also got a shot of
adrenaline which is mostly a factor of
bold chips using the revised rdna 3.5
GPU architecture so we're finally and I
mean finally seeing ryzen processors
that can beat Intel's quick sync it's
pretty amazing and those upgrades to
encoding and decoding also lead to
Performance and Premier outputs that
drastically improve on what the 8840 HS
offers and it can either match or beat
the ultra 71 155h while running at lower
power levels the other area where
there's still room for improvement is in
resolve where yes the ryzen AI
processors are on another level versus
N4 but Intel still delivers better
overall performance though not by much
since AMD has pretty much closed the Gap
here now those numbers as you saw were
basically with these laptops plugged in
uh but that's the easy part the reality
for most people is completely different
because these are mobile devices after
all and they'd be staying away from a
plug for most of their life
so did AMD make enough changes to create
a battery life champ now while these are
good numbers they only tell half the
story we tried our best to match each
processor's power range but one of the
challenges When comparing battery life
is these new ryzen AI processors are
tied to a 16in 120 HZ screen while we
try to level the playing field as much
as possible by setting all the laptops
to 60 HZ the s16 size just could account
for some of the differences you're
seeing here I can't wait to try one of
these r AIC CPUs and a more compact
14-in laptop but even then with a slight
handicap depending on the scenario they
can match the 8840 HS though in some
cases the system with the older zen4
processor pulls ahead the same thing
goes for the core Ultra 7 155h in the
Zenbook 14 OLED the standings flip-flop
depending on the situation also you
should completely remove the XPS 13 from
the equation here since the battery life
capacity on that thing is just
absolutely pathetic the load numbers
surprise me though I mean they draw some
of the lowest amount of power on average
so shouldn't they get pushed to the top
in this test well no basically due to
their overall efficiency Asus is able to
run them at higher continual wattage on
battery and that has a net positive
effect on their performance especially
when compared to the ryzen 7 8840 HS
ironically the Zenbook 14 OED does a
pretty good job here as well which is
probably why its heavy load times was so
bad
now it really does feel like AMD has
finally found the small piece of the
puzzle when it comes to maintaining good
overall performance on battery but there
is a small hiccup while AMD was pretty
far ahead in lightly threaded apps like
Photoshop when they're plugged in their
performance relative to Intel apple and
Qualcomm takes a dive on battery guys
now while gaming is never ever going to
be a primary use for the St light
laptops we've got to talk about it since
the integrated Graphics just keeps
getting better and better and in in
order to keep their leads against what
Intel's bringing a bit later this year
um AMD basically decided to give their R
DNA architecture a bit of a refresh and
now it isn't anything major on paper
since the 880m gets the same core count
as the previous generation 780m while
the 890m gets a pretty big increase to
16 compute units there's also a pretty
big bump in frequencies as well but did
that change make a huge difference in
the ryzen AI series ability to actually
game well the answer isn't what you
might want to hear at least not in
synthetics like 3D Mark in some cases
the new processors are better than the
last gen ones but they still lose to
Intel and in other tests they actually
struggle against the 8840 HS which is a
bit of a weird situation since on paper
they have higher core counts and
increased frequencies at least in the
case of the HX 370 so what's really
going on here well that's where we were
wondering and I think this comes down
again to power because every one of
these laptops treats their CPUs and
integrated Graphics very differently the
Zenbook s16 might not just be feeding
the 880m and 890m gpus with as much
power as the other laptops Fe their rgps
or they simply they're just prioritizing
CP performance and funneling as much as
juice as possible to the processor
course rather than the graphics
subsystem and our rear World game
testing does go a long way towards
proving this point since games that are
really CPU focused seem to see the
biggest wins for these new ryzen AI
processors in some cases the HX 370 and
365 are way way ahead of the previous
generation and simply steamroll
everything that Intel has to offer and
if you look at Snapdragon well they're
just on a completely different planet
now when you shift gears to games that
are a bit more GPU limited things get a
little different actually this looks
pretty bad for ryzen AI processors and
rdna
3.5 since there's some situations where
the 8840 HS walks all over the new CPUs
while in other games the ryzen 9365 gets
consistently beaten even with its new
architecture so basically all of this
points towards the possibility that Asus
might need to look a bit closer at how
they allocate power on these new laptops
when their algorithm detects a 3D
workload more juice should be shifted to
the integrated Graphics just like they
did with the 8840 HS uh in the Zenbook
14 oer because right now the s16 is at a
huge disadvantage in gaming even though
on paper two Zen five processors that we
have over here should have a clear
advantage in every situation so at the
end of the day did AMD accomplish what
they set out to do to be honest I don't
think I've ever been excited about these
new laptop CPUs for years minus the
ridiculous names scheme it's not about
what the Zenbook s16 did here it's more
about what it could be doing in the
future because we haven't seen these
ryzen AI processors in their fastest
form yet these things over here are just
running at 33 Watts while they're hir SK
is just much higher and you might be
wondering why Asus chose a relatively
low wattage CPU for these zok laptops
and that's pretty simple these chips
just don't need more they cleanly beat
the ultra 7 155h in almost every test
while consuming less power and it also
producing less heat and that's a major
win for AMD and laptop manufacturers as
a whole but that being said there
obviously needs to be work done with
their Partners to properly direct power
towards the integrated Graphics engine
when a gaming situation pops up if not
we get what we saw with the s16
basically an underlying rdna 3.5
Graphics cord that gets beaten in areas
where it should be dominating there's
also some serious irony here as well and
I think this can be a separate video but
the biggest part of amd's name change is
the AI tacked into the ryzen name and it
has little to no real world use for most
buyers I mean sure the new npu is a
beast on paper but for now it is just
marketing fluff so don't fall for that
BS another issue will be availability
because there's only going to be a
handful of laptops with zen5 around
until at least October even the 365 H
equipped Zenbook s16 I believe is a Best
Buy exclusive I'll leave links down in
the description if you're interested in
checking them out but I should also
mention that the HX 370 version will be
on the Asus store at first in the end I
think AMD did something that Qualcomm
and Microsoft's ridiculous co-pilot plus
PC marketing didn't they delivered a
platform that might have ai chops for
the future but it also features top
shell performance for apps that people
are using today and that's a win for
everyone on that note thanks so much for
watching I hope you're able to take away
everything that you needed to know about
amd's new ryzen AI HX series processors
let us know what you guys think about
its performance I think the competition
is getting a little more intense now so
the rest of the year is going to be
pretty good
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