JIU-JITSU DEPOIS DOS 40 E A PERDA DA MOBILIDADE | ALEX ATALA

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Summary

TLDRThe speaker reflects on the values and challenges of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, emphasizing the importance of humility and self-knowledge gained through the sport. They discuss the symbolic act of starting as a white belt and the persistence required to reach black belt, highlighting the discomfort of facing one's limits and the reality of aging in the sport. The speaker also touches on the camaraderie and mutual respect among practitioners, regardless of age or success outside the mat, and the fascination with the evolution of skills and strategies over time.

Takeaways

  • 🤼‍♂️ The speaker appreciates the humility that comes with losing in jiu-jitsu, emphasizing the importance of tapping out to acknowledge defeat and the superior defense.
  • 🏆 There is a symbolic challenge in starting jiu-jitsu, especially at an older age, and the journey to earning a black belt requires persistence and dealing with discomfort.
  • 👨‍👦‍👦 The speaker, a father of two, discusses the symbolic act of wearing a white belt and the pressure of being viewed as a victor by his children, given his past successes in other areas.
  • 🧘‍♂️ Jiu-jitsu is a leveler; it doesn't matter if you are older, younger, richer, or more famous—the mat treats everyone equally, and there is no one to ease your discomfort.
  • 👴 As one gets older and more successful, there is a risk of becoming complacent, but jiu-jitsu strips away these comforts and forces you to face reality.
  • 😎 The speaker talks about the authenticity required in jiu-jitsu, where pretending to be someone you're not won't work, and the sport will mold you into your true self.
  • 🚀 Jiu-jitsu is a journey of self-discovery, where you learn about your qualities and limitations, and it's a process of accepting and evolving.
  • 🤕 The speaker mentions that injuries in jiu-jitsu often occur when one overestimates their abilities, highlighting the importance of respecting one's limits.
  • 🏋️‍♂️ As age increases, mobility decreases, but the speaker finds it fascinating how jiu-jitsu practitioners learn to adapt and use their experience to compensate for physical limitations.
  • 👴🤼‍♂️ Training with older, more experienced practitioners is a humbling experience for the speaker, as they often cannot execute moves against them, which is a testament to the efficiency and skill of the older practitioners.
  • 🧘‍♂️ The speaker finds tranquility and security in jiu-jitsu, which comes from experience, hours on the mat, and the ability to read opponents, creating a personal exchange in each match.

Q & A

  • What is something the speaker appreciates about jiu-jitsu?

    -The speaker appreciates that in jiu-jitsu, when you lose, you have to tap out, acknowledging that the better defense never allowed the attack to get through.

  • What does the speaker find symbolic about starting jiu-jitsu with a white belt?

    -The speaker finds it symbolic because it represents a challenge and a journey of persistence and discomfort, especially for someone starting at an older age.

  • Why does the speaker mention being a father of two boys while discussing jiu-jitsu?

    -The speaker mentions being a father to show that despite previous success in other areas, like cooking, starting as a beginner in jiu-jitsu and being tested by younger practitioners is a humbling experience.

  • What does the speaker mean by 'there is no old or young, rich or poor, famous or not' in the context of jiu-jitsu?

    -The speaker means that in jiu-jitsu, everyone is on the same level regardless of their age, wealth, or fame, and everyone has to face the same challenges.

  • What does the speaker find fascinating about training with older, more experienced practitioners in jiu-jitsu?

    -The speaker finds it fascinating because they can't do anything against these experienced practitioners, which is a humbling and learning experience.

  • How does the speaker describe the process of self-discovery in jiu-jitsu?

    -The speaker describes it as a journey where you come to understand and recognize qualities and limitations you may not have been aware of before.

  • What does the speaker suggest about the importance of respect in jiu-jitsu training?

    -The speaker suggests that if you don't respect yourself or the training, you are more likely to get injured, as most injuries occur when one overestimates their abilities.

  • How does the speaker view the aging process in relation to jiu-jitsu?

    -The speaker views aging as a process that, while it may reduce mobility, also teaches you to adapt and find advantages in your training, making it more fascinating.

  • What does the speaker mean by 'masks falling' in the context of jiu-jitsu?

    -The speaker uses 'masks falling' to illustrate that in jiu-jitsu, pretense is useless, and one's true character and abilities are revealed.

  • How does the speaker describe the experience of training with someone who has less physical ability but more experience?

    -The speaker describes it as fascinating because despite the physical limitations, the experienced practitioner can still outperform them due to their efficiency, refined techniques, and tranquility.

  • What is the speaker's view on the importance of a repertoire and experience in jiu-jitsu?

    -The speaker believes that having a repertoire and experience is crucial as it brings tranquility and security, which comes from years of training and understanding of opponents.

Outlines

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🤼‍♂️ Embracing the Challenge of Jiu-Jitsu

The speaker expresses his appreciation for the challenges and lessons learned in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (BJJ), particularly the humbling experience of losing and the importance of starting from the basics with a white belt. He discusses the symbolic act of earning a black belt, which represents a journey of persistence and overcoming discomfort. The speaker also reflects on the personal growth and self-awareness that comes from engaging in BJJ, including the realization of one's strengths and limitations. He humorously notes the universality of the mat, where age, wealth, and fame are irrelevant, and everyone is there to test and prove themselves.

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👴👦 Training with All Ages in Jiu-Jitsu

The speaker shares his fascination with training in BJJ alongside individuals of various ages and skill levels. He highlights the unique experience of seeing friends improve over time, despite physical limitations that might come with age. The speaker emphasizes the value of training with more experienced practitioners, as it challenges him to adapt and learn from their efficiency and calmness. He discusses the concept of 'tranquility' and 'security' that comes from years of practice, experience, and understanding of one's opponent, which is a significant part of the BJJ journey.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Jiu-jitsu

Jiu-jitsu is a martial art and combat sport system that focuses on grappling and especially ground fighting. In the video, jiu-jitsu is the central theme, representing personal growth, discipline, and the journey of self-improvement. The speaker discusses the challenges and rewards of learning jiu-jitsu, including the symbolic act of receiving a white belt and the persistence required to reach a black belt.

💡Tapping out

Tapping out is a term used in martial arts, specifically when a participant submits to their opponent by tapping the mat or their opponent to indicate they give up due to being in a dangerous position or experiencing pain. The script mentions the act of tapping out as a moment of acknowledgment of defeat, which is an important part of learning and growing within the sport of jiu-jitsu.

💡Defense

In the context of the video, defense refers to the techniques and strategies used to protect oneself from an opponent's attacks in jiu-jitsu. The speaker mentions that a good defense is never allowing the attack to get through, which is a key concept in martial arts and a critical part of the learning process in jiu-jitsu.

💡Persistence

Persistence is the continued effort to achieve a goal despite difficulties or obstacles. The video emphasizes the importance of persistence in the journey to earning a black belt in jiu-jitsu, which requires a significant amount of time and dedication.

💡Discomfort

Discomfort, as mentioned in the script, refers to the feeling of unease or the challenge of stepping out of one's comfort zone. The speaker relates this to the experience of starting jiu-jitsu later in life and the symbolic discomfort of putting on a white belt despite previous success in other areas.

💡Self-knowledge

Self-knowledge is the understanding of one's own character, motivations, and desires. The video discusses how jiu-jitsu is a journey of self-knowledge, where practitioners discover their strengths and limitations, and learn to accept and work on them.

💡Injury

Injury is a physical harm or damage to the body, often a concern in sports and martial arts. The speaker mentions that injuries often occur in training when one overestimates their abilities, highlighting the importance of respect for one's own limits in jiu-jitsu.

💡Mobility

Mobility refers to the ability to move freely and easily. The script talks about how as one ages, mobility decreases, but this can be offset by learning to adapt and take advantage of other strengths in jiu-jitsu.

💡Efficiency

Efficiency in the context of the video pertains to the effectiveness and economy of movement in jiu-jitsu. The speaker admires the efficiency of older, more experienced practitioners who can achieve more with less movement, which is a sign of advanced skill in the martial art.

💡Repertoire

Repertoire in this context refers to the range of techniques and moves that a jiu-jitsu practitioner has mastered. The script mentions that a rich repertoire, gained through years of training, contributes to a practitioner's ability to read opponents and respond effectively in competition.

💡Tranquility

Tranquility is a state of being calm and peaceful. The video describes how experienced jiu-jitsu practitioners exhibit tranquility and security during matches, which comes from their extensive training and experience, and is a desirable state to achieve in the sport.

Highlights

The speaker enjoys the aspect of jiu-jitsu where losing is part of the learning process, emphasizing the importance of tapping out when defeated.

Mention of the symbolic act of receiving a white belt, representing the beginning of a challenging journey in jiu-jitsu.

The difficulty of starting a new activity at an advanced age and the symbolic challenge it presents.

The idea that in jiu-jitsu, regardless of age, wealth, or fame, everyone is equal on the mat.

The discomfort of aging and losing the pampering of life, which is contrasted with the equalizing nature of jiu-jitsu.

The importance of not pretending to be someone you're not in jiu-jitsu and the reality of one's abilities being tested.

The journey of self-discovery and personal growth through the practice of jiu-jitsu.

The realization that everyone has limitations, which are part of the learning process in jiu-jitsu.

The fascination with training with older, more experienced practitioners and the challenges it presents.

The concept that injuries often occur when one overestimates their abilities or fails to respect their limits in training.

The loss of mobility with age and how it can be turned into an advantage with experience.

The speaker's admiration for older practitioners who maintain a high level of skill despite decreased mobility.

The importance of creating a game and building a rapport with your training partners in jiu-jitsu.

The frustration that can arise from facing more efficient opponents and the lessons it teaches about one's own technique.

The development of tranquility and security in jiu-jitsu, which comes with experience and understanding of one's opponent.

The speaker's fascination with the exchange of techniques and the personal touch in jiu-jitsu training.

Transcripts

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[Música]

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tem uma coisa do jiu-jitsu que eu gosto

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muito que é

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quando você perde

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Então vamos desde você dar os três

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tapinhas e entender que por a melhor

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defesa ela nunca ter deixado entrar o

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ataque

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a gente falou também sobre

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o tem um lance na cara que eu acho que

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você começar

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uma atividade

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né difícil

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ele tem suas dificuldades né

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numa idade um pouco mais avançada [ __ ]

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é muito mais difícil

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e colocar ainda tem uma coisa simbólica

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que ia colocar a faixa branca

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e Enfim então é Um Desafio ali é muito

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grande né cara você vai você vai lidar

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para você chegar na faixa preta que você

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chegou e a gente sabe que é um tempo de

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muita persistência cara de muito

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desconforto enfim

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deveria ser deveria deveria ser eu vou

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te falar de Fora ser um cara mais velho

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Fora teu ser pai de dois garotos que te

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olham como um vitorioso porque afinal de

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contas eu já vinha de outras

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áreas onde eu tinha muito sucesso como

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cozinheiro por exemplo

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você colocar uma faixa branca e pisar

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num tatame e de repente olhar um garoto

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e

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levar uma levar um esfrega de um garoto

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ou

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é colocar o seu pego a prova todo

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momento

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você se colocar dentro do tatame dentro

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do Jon é não existe mais velho mais novo

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mais rico mais pobre mais famoso mas

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ninguém tá ali para aliviar para ninguém

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então tem um tem um extra aí que é um

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desconforto de que a vida a gente vai

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ficando mais velho vai tendo sucesso e

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vai ficando mimado pela vida e aqueles

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membros serão tirados de você Ninguém

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vai aliviar o teu pescoço

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[Aplausos]

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de famoso

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[Risadas]

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é a hora que você que não tem alívio

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Ninguém tá te aliviando muito né ou o

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cara que te ali que está te aliviando de

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alguma forma né a gente fala também um

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pouco acho que isso no jiu-jitsu assim

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a gente sente quando uma realidade né

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até diferente quando o cara tá aliviando

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quando ou quando o cara tá fakeando o

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negócio eu eu uso muito assim as

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máscaras caindo porque não adianta você

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ficar fingindo muito né que você é uma

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pessoa que não é não tem [ __ ] eu acho

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que com o tempo

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o próprio justiça ele vai te moldar e

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vai e por isso que eu acho também que é

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uma viagem de autoconhecimento né é uma

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jornada jornada porque você vai se

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conhecer você vai entender ali algumas

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qualidades obviamente que às vezes você

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nem sabia que tinha e algumas limitações

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também né que você vai algumas já

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aceitar né todo mundo tem as pessoas e

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trabalhar algumas você vai evoluir em

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algumas outras né então acho que esse é

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um é um é um autoconhecimento que você

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vai trabalhando ao longo do tempo né

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cara e isso isso

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que eu gosto muito

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que é

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quando você perde

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né então vamos desde você dar os três

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tapinhas e entender que por a melhor

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defesa era nunca ter deixado entrar o

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ataque

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Essa é essa essa é uma lição mas tem as

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coisas também de vocês se machucando

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durante o treino e qualquer qualquer

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Esporte eletivo as pessoas falam assim

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[ __ ]

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aí vamos no jiu-jitsu o cara vai me

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machucar fala não cara quem vai se

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machucar é você se você não respeitar se

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você não se respeitar

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eu vou dizer que 99% das vezes que eu me

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lesionei treinando foi quando eu achei

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que eu podia mais do que eu realmente

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podia

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ou segurar uma defesa ou fazer um

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movimento enfim e também com idade não é

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eu acho que dos 40 45 dos 50 dos 45 ou

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50 55 você vai perdendo a mobilidade

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isso não faz o seu pior

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você aprende tirar

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vantagens disso e isso fica mais

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fascinante ainda não quando é com você

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quando é como seu amigo que você de

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repente treinou a dez anos atrás

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e você tinha uma habilidade dele tinha

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uma mobilidade passaram-se 10 anos

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Independente de ser mais novo mais velho

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se dez anos pesa igual e aí você vê o

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seu amigo até melhor do que era

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com muito mais deficiência motora ou

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coordenativa ou de mobilidade mesmo é

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isso me fascina demais no Justiça

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eu me amarro em treinar com os caras

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mais velhos que eu e com muito mais

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experiência

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de jiu-jitsu que eu porque muitas vezes

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eu não consigo fazer nada eu não consigo

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fazer nada que ele não deixou eu fazer

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nada isso isso é isso para mim é é é é

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fascinante do jiu-jitsu né não é você

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ganhar ou perder é você conseguir criar

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uma simpatia e um jogo e muitas vezes

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até se frustrar porque você o cara tem

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uma eficiência maior do que a sua é é

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ainda que seus ataques ou que as suas o

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seu o seu qualquer coisa Seja mais

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afinado ele tem um bloqueio ele tá

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Tranquilidade e este essa tranquilidade

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essa segurança vem com essas coisas que

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a gente vinha falando né com repertório

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com as horas de tatames nos anos de

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enfrentamento uma leitura do seu

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oponente

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pegar no Tatá pegar no no no no no no no

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que modo do cara o cara pega no seu

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ali já tem uma troca de casa própria ali

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começou

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