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16 Mar 202103:14

Summary

TLDRIn the script, Matt Graver discusses the value of human trafficking over drugs with a government official, suggesting people are now the most valuable commodity. The conversation shifts to defining terrorism, with the government considering drug cartels as such, planning to add them to a terrorist list. Graver hints at strategies to destabilize cartels by creating internal conflicts, similar to lessons learned from Iraq. The official expresses concern about the moral implications of such actions, acknowledging the potential for personal corruption in the process.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ” The conversation is between a minister and Matt Graver, discussing the most valuable commodity crossing borders, which has shifted from cocaine to people.
  • ๐Ÿ’ก The definition of terrorism is being redefined to include drug cartels, with the intention of adding them to a terrorist list, which will increase the combat capabilities against them.
  • ๐Ÿค” The minister expresses a concern that eliminating cartel leaders will not stop the problem but might only fragment the cartels into smaller groups.
  • ๐Ÿ‘ฅ It is suggested that the death of a 'king' or leader does not start a war but ends it, implying that taking out a cartel leader might bring about a resolution.
  • ๐Ÿ”Ž The minister is inquiring about the whereabouts of a cartel leader named Reyes, and it is mentioned that his family is under surveillance.
  • ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ‘งโ€๐Ÿ‘ฆ Reyes has two children, with the youngest being 16 years old, and there is a suggestion to kidnap the younger child to provoke action from the cartel leader.
  • ๐ŸŒ A historical reference is made to the Middle East, where similar tactics have been used, indicating a belief that these strategies could be effective here as well.
  • ๐Ÿšซ The conversation touches on the need for external military support, including supplies and air support, without the knowledge of the people involved.
  • ๐Ÿค There is an unspoken understanding that the people involved in the operation will know they are not to be identified.
  • ๐Ÿ˜ท Matt Graver expresses a personal reluctance and the moral dilemma of getting involved in such a dirty and potentially corrupting operation.

Q & A

  • Who is Matt Graver, and what is his role in the conversation?

    -Matt Graver appears to be a government official or a high-ranking officer discussing the issue of cartels and their impact on national security.

  • What is the most valuable commodity that the cartels are trafficking according to the conversation?

    -The most valuable commodity that the cartels are trafficking is people, as they do not require cultivation or processing and can be paid three times the price even if they fail to cross the border.

  • How is terrorism defined in the recent context of the conversation?

    -Terrorism is defined as the use of violence by individuals or groups to achieve political goals.

  • What is the government's plan regarding the cartels in the near future?

    -The government plans to add the cartels to the list of terrorist organizations, which is expected to increase their combat capabilities against them.

  • Why is the speaker suggesting that the cartels should be made to fight each other?

    -The speaker suggests that making the cartels fight each other would be an easier way to suppress them, drawing a parallel to the lessons learned from Iraq.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on eliminating the cartel leaders?

    -The speaker believes that eliminating the cartel leaders will not solve the problem, as it will only lead to the cartels splitting into smaller factions.

  • What is the significance of the 'prince' mentioned in the conversation?

    -The 'prince' seems to be a key figure in the cartel, and the speaker suggests that kidnapping him could provoke a reaction from the 'king,' possibly referring to a higher authority within the cartel.

  • What is the current status of the search for Reyes' hideout?

    -The hideout has not been found yet, but the family members are under surveillance.

  • Does the speaker believe that the cartel leader Reyes is in contact with his family?

    -While it is not confirmed, the speaker speculates that Reyes is likely in contact with his family.

  • What is the age of the youngest child of the cartel leader Reyes?

    -The youngest child of the cartel leader Reyes is 16 years old.

  • What does the speaker imply about the potential consequences of kidnapping the 'prince'?

    -The speaker implies that kidnapping the 'prince' could escalate the situation into a war and that the authorities would be implicated if their involvement is discovered.

Outlines

00:00

๐Ÿ‘ค Discussing Valuable Contraband and Terrorism

The dialogue introduces Matt Graver and discusses the most valuable contraband crossing the border, highlighting that human trafficking has become more profitable than cocaine. It touches on the definition of terrorism and the government's decision to classify drug cartels as terrorist organizations to enhance their combat strategies.

๐Ÿช– Strategy for Disrupting Cartels

The discussion turns to strategies for dealing with cartels, suggesting that inciting conflicts between them could be more effective than targeting leaders. The conversation mentions monitoring cartel leader Reyes's family and the potential of kidnapping his son to provoke a reaction. The need for external military support and secrecy is emphasized, with a commitment to taking necessary actions despite the moral implications.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กCartel

A cartel is a criminal organization involved in illegal activities, typically in the drug trade. In the script, the cartel is discussed as a significant entity that has evolved from dealing in cocaine to trafficking people. The cartel's activities are central to the theme of the video, highlighting the shift in criminal enterprises and their impact on society.

๐Ÿ’กCocaine

Cocaine is a powerful stimulant drug that was a major commodity for the cartels 20 years ago, as mentioned in the script. It serves as a historical reference point to illustrate the changing nature of the cartel's operations, from drug trafficking to human trafficking, emphasizing the evolving challenges faced by law enforcement.

๐Ÿ’กHuman Trafficking

Human trafficking is the illegal trade of people for exploitation or forced labor. The script highlights that people have become the most valuable commodity for the cartels, indicating a shift from drug trafficking. This concept is crucial to the video's theme, as it underscores the inhumane practices of criminal organizations and their societal implications.

๐Ÿ’กTerrorism

Terrorism is defined in the script as the use of violence for political goals. The government authorities are considering categorizing the cartel under this definition, which would escalate the fight against them. This concept is pivotal as it sets the stage for a broader conflict and the potential militarization of the response to the cartel.

๐Ÿ’กPresident

The President is mentioned in the context of adding the cartel to a list of terrorist groups. This action would have significant implications for the legal and military strategies employed against the cartel. The President's role is a key element in the video's narrative, symbolizing the highest authority's stance on the issue.

๐Ÿ’กIraq

The script references lessons learned from Iraq, implying that the strategy of pitting factions against each other can be effective in weakening criminal organizations. This historical reference is used to suggest a potential strategy for dealing with the cartel, highlighting the complexity and the historical context of conflict management.

๐Ÿ’กLeader

The cartel leader is a central figure in the script, with discussions about eliminating them to disrupt the cartel's operations. The concept of leadership within criminal organizations is crucial, as it affects the structure and resilience of these groups, and is a focal point in the video's exploration of strategies to combat the cartel.

๐Ÿ’กWar

The term 'war' is used in the script to describe the potential escalation of conflict with the cartel. It is also mentioned in the context of the potential consequences of kidnapping the cartel leader's son. The concept of war is integral to the video's theme, as it reflects the severity and the high stakes of the conflict.

๐Ÿ’กMiddle East

The script mentions similar tactics being used in the Middle East, suggesting a broader context for the strategies being discussed. This reference to the Middle East provides a comparative framework for understanding the potential effectiveness and implications of the proposed strategies against the cartel.

๐Ÿ’กFamily

The cartel leader's family is mentioned as being under surveillance, and there is a suggestion of kidnapping his son to provoke a reaction. The family's role is significant in the script, as it illustrates the personal stakes involved in the conflict and the potential for leveraging personal relationships in strategic operations.

๐Ÿ’กDirty

The term 'dirty' is used in the script to describe the moral implications of the actions being considered, such as kidnapping. It reflects the ethical dilemmas faced by those involved in the conflict with the cartel, highlighting the personal and moral costs of engaging in such tactics.

Highlights

Discussion on the most valuable commodity being people, not cocaine, in the context of cartel activities.

People are willing to pay three times the price of 1kg of cocaine to cross borders, even if they fail.

Definition of terrorism as using violence to achieve political goals, applicable to drug cartels.

Plans to add drug cartels to the list of terrorist groups, potentially increasing combat capabilities.

Suggestion that cartels fighting each other can be more easily suppressed, drawing from lessons in Iraq.

Acknowledgment that eliminating cartel leaders might not stop their operations but could lead to fragmentation.

Concern that killing a leader might not end a war but start it, as seen in historical precedents.

Inquiry about the whereabouts of a cartel leader's hideout and the surveillance of his family.

Speculation that the cartel leader might be in contact with his family despite surveillance.

Mention of the cartel leader having two children, with the youngest being 16 years old.

Proposal to kidnap the cartel leader's son to provoke a response and potentially end the war.

Comparison to similar tactics used in the Middle East and their potential applicability in the current situation.

Discussion about sourcing soldiers and support externally, including logistics and air support.

Concern that the involvement of external forces needs to remain covert.

Admission that executing the plan would require significant moral compromise and could be seen as dirty.

Implicit agreement to proceed with the plan despite its moral implications.

The conversation suggests a complex and potentially controversial strategy to combat cartels, involving moral dilemmas and strategic manipulation.

Transcripts

play00:01

์žฅ๊ด€๋‹˜

play00:03

์ด์ชฝ์€ ๋งท ๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋ฒ„์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค

play00:06

์ €๊ธฐ ์•‰๊ฒŒ

play00:21

์นด๋ฅดํ…”์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ตญ๊ฒฝ์„ ๋„˜๋‚˜๋“ค๊ฒŒ ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฐ€์žฅ ๊ฐ€์น˜ ์žˆ๋Š” ์ƒํ’ˆ์ด ๋ญ๋ผ๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜์ง€?

play00:28

20๋…„ ์ „์—๋Š” ์ฝ”์นด์ธ์ด์—ˆ์ฃ 

play00:31

์š”์ฆ˜์€ ์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์ž…๋‹ˆ๋‹ค

play00:34

์‚ฌ๋žŒ๋“ค์€ ๊ฒฝ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ฑฐ๋‚˜ ๊ฐ€๊ณตํ•  ํ•„์š”๋„ ์—†๊ณ 

play00:37

์„ค์‚ฌ ๊ตญ๊ฒฝ์„ ๋„˜๋Š” ๋ฐ ์‹คํŒจํ•ด๋„

play00:40

์ฝ”์นด์ธ 1kg 3๋ฐฐ ๊ฐ€๊ฒฉ์„ ์ง€๊ธ‰ํ•˜๊ณ ์„œ๋ผ๋„ ๊ตญ๊ฒฝ์„ ๋‹ค์‹œ ๋„˜์œผ๋ ค ํ•˜์ฃ 

play00:44

ํ…Œ๋Ÿฌ๋ฆฌ์ฆ˜์„ ์–ด๋–ป๊ฒŒ ์ •์˜ํ•˜๊ฒ ๋‚˜? ๊ทธ๋ ˆ์ด๋ฒ„?

play00:49

๊ทธ๊ฑด ์žฅ๊ด€๋‹˜์˜ ์†Œ๊ด€ ๊ฐ™๊ตฐ์š”

play00:54

์ตœ๊ทผ ์ •์˜๋Š” "์ •์น˜์  ๋ชฉํ‘œ๋ฅผ ๋‹ฌ์„ฑํ•˜๊ธฐ ์œ„ํ•ด ํญ๋ ฅ์„ ์‚ฌ์šฉํ•˜๋Š”

play00:57

๊ฐœ์ธ ๋˜๋Š” ์ง‘๋‹จ" ์ด๋ผ๊ณ  ํ•˜์ง€

play01:00

์ •๋ถ€ ๋‹น๊ตญ์€ ์ด์ œ ๋งˆ์•ฝ์นด๋ฅดํ…”์ด ๊ทธ ์ •์˜์— ๋“ค์–ด ๋งž๋Š”๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๋„ค

play01:06

๋‹ค์Œ ์ฃผ์— ๋Œ€ํ†ต๋ น๊ป˜์„œ ๋งˆ์•ฝ์นด๋ฅดํ…”์„

play01:08

ํ…Œ๋Ÿฌ ๋‹จ์ฒด ๋ชฉ๋ก์— ์ถ”๊ฐ€ํ•  ์˜ˆ์ •์ด๋ผ๋„ค

play01:11

์ด๊ฒŒ ๋†ˆ๋“ค์— ๋Œ€ํ•œ ์šฐ๋ฆฌ์˜ ์ „ํˆฌ ๋Šฅ๋ ฅ์„

play01:13

์ฆ๋Œ€์‹œํ‚ฌ ๊ฑฐ๋ž€ ๊ฑด ์ž๋„ค๋„ ์ž˜ ์•Œํ…Œ์ง€

play01:16

์ง€๊ธˆ์€ ์นด๋ฅดํ…” ๊ฐ„์˜ ์ƒํ™ฉ์ด ์•ˆ์ •๋œ ์ƒํƒœ์ง€๋งŒ

play01:19

์ด๋ผํฌ์—์„œ์˜ ๊ตํ›ˆ์—์„œ ์•Œ ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ๋“ฏ์ด

play01:21

์นด๋ฅดํ…”๋“ค์ด ์„œ๋กœ ์‹ธ์šฐ๊ฒŒ ๋งŒ๋“ค๋ฉด ํ›จ์”ฌ ์†์‰ฝ๊ฒŒ ์ œ์•• ํ•  ์ˆ˜ ์žˆ์ง€

play01:30

ํ•„์š”ํ•œ ๊ฑด ๋ญ๋“ ์ง€ ํ•˜๊ฒ ์Šต๋‹ˆ๋‹ค

play01:32

ํ™•์‹คํ•˜๊ฒŒ ๋งํ•ด์ฃผ์‹œ์ฃ 

play01:35

๋ฌด์Šจ ์˜๊ฒฌ ์—†์†Œ?

play01:38

์นด๋ฅดํ…” ์ง€๋„์ž๋ฅผ ์—†์• ์ง„ ์•Š์„ ๊ฑฐ๊ณ 

play01:41

๊ทธ๋Ÿฌ๋ฉด ์นด๋ฅดํ…”์ด ์—ฌ๋Ÿฌ ๊ฐœ๋กœ ์ชผ๊ฐœ์งˆ ๋ฟ์ด์ฃ 

play01:43

๊ฒŒ๋‹ค๊ฐ€, ์™•์„ ์ฃฝ์ด๋ฉด ์ „์Ÿ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๋Š” ๊ฒŒ ์•„๋‹ˆ๋ผ ๋๋‚ด๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์ฃ 

play01:46

๊ทธ๊ฑด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ๋„ ์—ผ๋ คํ•˜๋Š” ๋ฐ”์š”

play01:49

๋ ˆ์˜ˆ์Šค์˜ ์€์‹ ์ฒ˜๋Š” ์ฐพ์•˜๋‚˜์š”?

play01:51

์•„๋‹ˆ, ํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋“ค์€ ๊ฐ์‹œ ์ค‘์ด์˜ค

play01:54

๊ทธ๊ฐ€ ๊ฐ€์กฑ๋“ค๊ณผ ์—ฐ๋ฝํ•˜๋‚˜์š”?

play01:55

ํ™•์ธ์€ ์•ˆ ๋˜์ง€๋งŒ ๊ทธ๋Ÿด ๊ฑฐ๋ผ ์ถ”์ธกํ•œ๋‹ค๋„ค

play01:59

- ์ž์‹์€ ์žˆ๋‚˜์š”? - 2๋ช…

play02:01

๊ฐ€์žฅ ์–ด๋ฆฐ ์• ๋Š” ๋ช‡ ์‚ด์ด์ฃ ?

play02:02

16์‚ด

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16์‚ด์ด์š”?

play02:09

์ „์Ÿ์„ ์‹œ์ž‘ํ•˜๊ณ  ์‹ถ์œผ์‹œ๋ฉด

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์™•์ž๋ฅผ ๋‚ฉ์น˜ํ•˜์‹œ์ฃ 

play02:14

๊ทธ๋Ÿผ ์™•๋„ ์›€์ง์ผ ๊ฒ๋‹ˆ๋‹ค

play02:20

์ค‘๋™์—์„œ๋„ ๋น„์Šทํ•œ ์ผ์„ ํ•œ ๊ฑธ๋กœ ์•„๋„ค๋งŒ

play02:24

๊ทธ ์ „์ˆ ๋“ค์ด ์—ฌ๊ธฐ์„œ๋„ ํ†ตํ•  ๊ฒƒ ๊ฐ™๋‚˜?

play02:28

์žฅ๊ด€๋‹˜์ด ์›ํ•˜์‹ ๋‹ค๋ฉด์š”

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๊ตฐ์ธ๋“ค์€ ์™ธ๋ถ€์—์„œ ๊ตฌํ•˜๊ฒŒ๋‚˜

play02:44

๋ณด๊ธ‰๊ณผ ๊ณต์ค‘์ง€์›๋„ ํฌํ•จํ•ด์„œ

play02:47

๊ทธ๋“ค์ด ์šฐ๋ฆฌ ์†Œํ–‰์ธ ๊ฑธ ์•Œ๊ฒŒ ๋˜๋ฉด ์•ˆ๋œ๋‹ค๋Š” ๊ฑด ๋ง ์•ˆํ•ด๋„ ์•ˆ๋‹ค๊ณ  ์ƒ๊ฐํ•˜๊ฒ ๋„ค

play02:57

ํ™•์‹คํžˆ ๋งํ•˜์ง€๋งŒ

play02:59

์ •๋ง ์ด ์ผ์„ ์‹คํ–‰ํ•˜์‹ ๋‹ค๋ฉด

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์ œ๊ฐ€ ์ข€ ๋งŽ์ด...

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๋”๋Ÿฌ์›Œ์ ธ์•ผ๊ฒ ๊ตฐ์š”

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๋”๋Ÿฌ์›Œ์ ธ์•ผ ๋˜๊ธฐ์— ์ž๋„ค๊ฐ€ ์—ฌ๊น„๋Š” ๊ฑฐ์•ผ

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