Jeremy Corbell Returns To Spill UFO Secrets and The Government is Not Happy - Wild Ride #196

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hey everybody and welcome to an

anomalous wild ride with sto and if

you're wondering what anomalous means it

is that which deviates from the normal

the standard and the expected and that

is what you're going to get today

because there have been new developments

in the

UAP UFO world of phenomena and we have

all dare say breaking news from the

foremost leading expert in these matters

Jeremy corbel so without any further Ado

let's get into

it ladies and Gentlemen people of the

Universe I bring to you again Jeremy

Corbell and again we have a special

guest cohost the star of Jackass it is

Dave England woohooo I'm the star of

Jackass the star not one of the stars

the star y just clarify and speaking of

stars you have Scott Randolph that's

right and we're talking about UFOs in

the skies yeah um last week we uh we we

might have rubbed a lot of people the

wrong way what' you do we uh we

suggested why you read some of the

comments I Vinnie told me about it the

thousands of comments they're like l l l

right um but but hey who knows maybe

that was good for engagement and if

anybody listened to what we talked about

we were suggesting that uh Aaron roders

and Cat Williams might have had a rough

week but everybody universally agrees

that Cat Williams got the dub I came

around on that and there was a lot of

push back saying Aaron roders did not

catch an L but hey you know what yeah

well all of the comments said that Aaron

Rogers didn't take an L all of them then

I guess then I guess we're wrong and

I'll I'll just admit that I'm wrong

again

you okay and uh Vinnie um bless his

heart despite the fact that he's getting

married uh this weekend will have gotten

married last week um not missing a

podcast old

Vinnie he's up there in the front he's

getting married on Monday uh

congratulations brother congratulations

Vinnie but enough enough about that get

into the UFOs thing um Jeremy since the

last time we saw you we've become

buddies we shoot each other texts and

stuff you sent me a text about this TMZ

presents

UFO uh Revolution yeah on tuby on Tu

yeah yeah that trailer was insane thanks

man I watched the trailer I've been

watching the the series on tuby we had

to talk to you again I think you have

UFO disease I think that you had have an

addiction to UFOs and there are groups

for that uh I will run that for you we

can do facetimes weekly or daily

whatever you need um I'm stoked to see

you again man uh I did not expect to see

you again so soon right this is the

first time I'm sitting down long form to

talk about this it's been a hell of a

week you know I've been planning for

more than three and a half years to try

to get some of this information out the

the special is really cool like the UFO

revolution of course I haven't watched

the whole thing but I saw the edits and

you know it was really

personal for me and and I haven't really

let people in before on that but I think

what it does is it kind of peels back

the layer of like you know what does it

mean to do this and and and how do

you get it done uh and I think that's

important for people to see because it

it kind of demystifies a lot of what

people think you know who's this guy

this idiot bearded guy obtaining

military filmed UFO footage so I think

it it kind of peels back that layer and

lets people in a little bit and I think

that's powerful because they can let go

of stupid ideas

I mean do you uh I saw you I was just

watching the Y files you you know the

YouTube channel dud I've seen that

referenc you yesterday they're playing

your Clips on the episode last night

yeah yeah when I st the one with the the

guy got the little

goldfish love that yeah yeah

I've seen it I love it that's so cool I

just don't have time to like like when

you were talking earlier it's like

hieroglyphics to me I I I don't

understand popular culture I don't watch

a lot of stuff but I have seen the wi

files it's pretty cool wi files is cool

yeah um you mentioned how this uh this

2B three-part series TMZ investigates

TMZ presents yeah UFO Revolution you

said that that it gave a personal yeah

kind of glimpse into your life yeah and

I saw on there that you described how uh

UFO uh it's it's more of a hobby for you

that it's that that you have a job and

that your job isn't about

UFOs yes I mean I it's not a hobby it's

an obsession I'm an addict for UFOs like

you now U but it yeah so I think that is

one of the things it it reveals in the

show and again I have to watch the Final

Cut but yeah I mean that I have put more

money and time and just you know energy

into investigating this topic than I'll

ever get back out from it um yeah I do

have a job I'm self-employed but I mean

look I've been self-employed since I was

you know 16 years old you know doing

Jiu-Jitsu and that kind of thing and

then all the way up through uh I mean as

polishing silver and painting the braces

off of my enemies and their zits when

you didn't have Photoshop and I was

working in a photo lab in a basement for

somewhere to buy a Mustang but uh my

whole life I've been self-employed so my

wife and I got into real estate the

smartest thing I ever did was listen to

her but also invest what I earned all

those years of training jiujitsu and

teaching Jiu-Jitsu into property so I

guess they revealed that a little bit in

the episode that yeah this is not like

how I put food on my table right you

said you're out more money than you put

in yeah I mean look I it's hard for

people to grasp if they've never made a

documentary in the way in which I do but

like I don't get paid to come on these

interviews I I don't get paid to do news

hits um my films some the bobazar film

took me legitimately 9 years so imagine

all that time and it it's you know once

we started filming for that that's a

whole another thing that was rapid Pace

but all the trips all the work getting

to know people moving that on yeah I'll

never recover all of that uh I'm not

complaining that's just how it is so I

think that's important for people to

understand that you know I do this

because I love it and because I want to

understand more and I I'm greedy I'm

selfish I want to know more more than I

want to tell other people people so

that's been my focus for from you know a

long time now and so there's stuff that

you haven't gotten out and that it's

come it came out in this UF UFO

Revolution couple things have come out

in this yeah what I haven't gotten out I

just haven't gotten out yet but yeah we

got two new or three new major assets I

call them products so military filmed

UFO footage or imagery and in this

series you know I my priority is to

protect sources even if they don't

protect themselves and that is that is a

a delicate dance in this series I was

able to release uh two very important

UFO

cases how do you know that their actual

military couldn't you photoshop like

crosshairs and yeah sure you could

switch it to Thermal to not but like do

you have a some sort of a a way to sus

that out yeah why did it take me 3 and

1/2 years to feel confident putting this

out to the public because yeah I'm

fastidious is the word someone just

taught me with my work I don't know what

it means it basically means like

attention to detail but like yeah man uh

you could fake anything these days and

that's the problem right you could fake

any footage so I usually and typically

require about three times that I get a

piece of footage and I get it

anonymously and I set it up that way I

don't want a source that I'm talking

with I don't want to know who gave me

video that's a legal issue so I make

sure they send it to me does that not uh

call into question The credibility if

you don't I mean you know the source

you're just not going to share the

source so but it's not a source see

that's the thing what I'm saying is uh

it takes usually about three times for

me to get a product right like a

military filmed video then what I do is

through my own channels not through

connections that sources give me I I

mean I have sources in the dod the doj

the CIA the FBI I mean you name it and

I'm not bragging I'm I'm actually making

a threat right now I O I I I no no

because here's the deal here's the deal

I'll know if there's and so any

engagement I've ever had with agencies

they know too that I will know if

there's I'll find out if there's

an active investigation of course there

are active investigations into what

George nap and I have released and good

for them it's an important job the idea

that if people leak stuff you got to

plug those leaks I get it but as a

journalist the First Amendment the idea

of freedom of press for public good so I

feel maybe I'm ignorant but I feel

protected because everybody I've ever

talked to in agencies their biggest fear

is that other countries will compromise

will blackmail so they can get

before I vetted it for National Security

I've never done nothing wrong so the

whole idea is when you get this stuff

how do you vet it how do you know how do

you know it's not fake there's a lot of

ways to do that but here's what I tell

people first conversation if you're a

source and you call me I say have

patience on me don't give up on me I'm

on Cosmic time not on your time

seriously and I develop relationships

over years with people I then do my own

vetting through my own sources not

through who sources give me sources and

then I bring it to George knp when I

feel it's a good case and he does his

own process through his own contacts

that he's made for over 40 years if I

put something out you can bet your

ass that it is legit and that it

is worth putting out to the public for

debate

very cool um when you sent me the

trailer for The the 2B three-part

series um there's kind of a lot of

emphasis on people being in danger

people's lives being threatened people

David gush that right and the last time

we spoke to you uh you seemed pretty

laidback about about the whole idea of

being a Target being in danger you know

like um um in the in the series itself

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it do you still feel that way if you

remember specifically what I told you is

that I use that term as a shield you

know I'm a journalist because I say I am

because I break news because I bring

stuff forward I don't know the letter of

the law but I know the spirit of the law

so you know look in one sense it's a

front don't with me I will push

that button but on so so I'm not

minimizing that I'm not minimizing what

I have heard from sources I'm not

minimizing what they've experienced

there are active Inspector General

complaints against what has been done to

people like David grush and it is

diabolical and it it involves physical

danger me myself everybody seems to

pretend they're my friend so the thing

is is I've never um I don't feel the

need to publicly talk about the the

pressure that I feel you know in

protecting sources and myself right I'm

not going to minimize it though this is

a secret and it's it's treated at a UFOs

is treated at a level higher than

weapons of mass destruction meaning that

there's a threat somehow in the mind of

intelligence agencies how they come at

how they try to silence people it can be

compromising journalists like just even

on Twitter and like getting them to like

try to discredit people character

assassination which we saw with David

grush yeah with his PTSD so

stupid he got over it a lot of people

murder themselves because of you

know PTSD

they they're so limp dick these these

kinds of things but there's more there

there's other ways that people can be

pressured and other ways can be

threatened and yeah George Napp and I

have our own stories and one day we we

will tell that and I've documented

everything but I I don't think that's

important right now what's important is

people to Have Courage how we treat our

whistleblowers right now is going to

determine what we learn about the UFO

topic within the next year so they did

show that a little bit in the series

like you said but but I I don't dwell on

it man you know I feel like if you're

doing the right thing or you're trying

to you know then you're on the right

path okay what about all these threats

and danger is it all from the US

government or other other entities or

yeah man it's it's really Dynamic so I'm

going to try to answer you like really

directly um I have to be I have to dance

a little bit but I'm going try to answer

you really directly there are many

interests to and I'm going to say this

real clear shape the emerging UAP

narrative in quotes imagine that in a

document from an intelligence agency

okay so what that means is the the

threats are like well is my family going

to be okay am I going to lose a

clearance right so for people that are

in the military you know will I be

defamed to the point like they tried

with David grush where no one's going to

hire the guy always buy someone

representing the US government I mean

it's not like Elizabeth Warren's

assistant is coming after you right so

no yeah because who are the holders of

the secrets remember remember a lot of

this technology is said to have been put

into Private Industry so think like you

think about like big tobacco I mean they

did some diabolical to people that

were blowing the whistle this is more

important and bigger than that so when

you move something in Private Industry

they have their own kind of Rules of

Engagement so is it always the US

government no most everybody in the US

government wants to know what's going on

but when you move things into Private

Industry

and you give them power they can operate

by different rules now of course they

are defense

contractors right but that that those

threats that pressure that shut up

silence don't talk about this we're

going to Mock You it comes

from mechanisms with within Private

Industry it feeds down to social media

and then people are co-opted by our

intelligence agencies do you remember

project mocking bird that came out uh

back in the day in Congress sounds

vaguely familiar it's where they opt

journalists where they grab them they

pay them or they threaten them the CIA

was doing this and this is like not a

conspiracy this is like a real thing

that happened and it came out back in

the day with a a very important event

that occurred in Congress which we'll

talk about later but that is real and

that happens now personally I have

something wrong with my brain I am just

I dropped my last a long time ago I

am not going to endanger National

Security but I am definitely going to

pursue this and tell the truth so so I'm

not too worried about it but I've seen

other people harmed what they did to

David grush was horrible but the

thing is he was ready for it first

conversation I had with him is what dirt

are they going to pull up and how are

they going to hurt you because they're

gonna if what you're saying is true

they're gonna he came to me and George

first now for anybody who's not clear

David grush is the guy who we all saw

testify in front of Congress yeah saying

that they they have uh nonhuman bio

biologics you got it meaning meaning

that he testified under oath that the US

government is in possession of actual

Anonymous aircraft plus non-human

biologic meaning like uh effectively Ali

alien Pilots of of uh these nom

are they alive or dead still so they

would be dead right first of all check

this out first of all the reason we use

non-human intelligence when we're

talking about this is because we don't

want to make presumptions is it ET

extraterrestrial is it extradimensional

a could just be from from where just a

hidden intelligence that's called

ultraterrestrial right like uh some

people that have been here longer than

us are they piloting the craft sometimes

they are are the craft run with with an

artificial intelligence so it's a drone

that's a great word for a drone sure all

and yes and of the above yes and Time

Travelers extemporal so so we could go

through there's like four or five big

theories on where these things come from

but why you say non-human intelligence

is because you're just trying to like

leave the door open and not make an

assumption like an idiot right you know

where it comes from right now there are

people that claim that they know and all

that stuff and I will tell you this the

craft that we have obtained our

government specifically the DIA the head

of the DIA program defense intelligence

so the DIA is an intelligence agency

it's called the defense intelligence

agency it was admitted that they had a

UFO program you heard about it in the

New York Times They called it a

different name but you heard about it

that was the 2017 article yeah a tip

they called it right but the the main

program the mother program was called

ASAP I had the head of the DIA UFO

program come on my podcast with George

naap called weapon

and he admitted that they had a craft

that they obtained a craft just one he

admitted to one and they breached the

whole of it it wasn't made by us wasn't

China wasn't Russia so they call it

non-human intelligence right because

we're not exactly sure or I'm not

exactly sure where the the pilots or The

Operators of The Craft are from but that

is fact he got authorized to say it

through a doser request which just means

he asked the government hey what can I

talk about you know I'm writing books

so but he admitted it on the show and

that's just one where he found it well

he didn't find it he was the the head of

the program studying it so you got

people studying the craft but let me get

back to the point which is that where

are they

from what is their

intent those are the big questions but

we can't even get there unless we come

to consensus reality that we got these

craft and I'll tell you something about

the craft and why I think they're not

from here from Earth is because the

structure the way they're built they are

capable of Beyond Interstellar travel so

anybody that's ever worked in these

programs who I do continue to talk to

who are currently in them and people

that have been in them say the craft

themselves are capable of you say faster

than speed faster than light but that's

not the case they're gravitationally

propelled so they warp SpaceTime but

they're capable structurally of moving

you know within solar systems and Beyond

yeah

would be going to other sons and so why

would you make a Ferrari if you're just

you know at home in your driveway never

going to leave the gate right so that

tells me something that tells me they're

probably from another star system but

there might be multiple things going on

there could be some that are like that

and there could be some that are

interdimensional people say I don't know

what that means but I kind of understand

yeah that seems like it makes sense what

what's the leading theory on where

aliens are from well the the lead in

theory from the people that actually

work in these UFO reverse engineering

exploitation programs for derivative

Technologies unpack that right what

they say is that they get conflicting

ideas meaning there might be more than

like one group of other people from

other places coming here so it could be

all of the above in the kitchen sink I

don't know that's what this is all about

if this is real let's start talking

about

it the the idea that I got as far as why

the government takes this so seriously

and why the government's been so

secretive

I kind of just heard the message that

the government was embarrassed to admit

that what they know about this

anomalist uh you know craft all this UFO

stuff is that it is a technology so far

Advanced beyond anything that we as

humans are capable of it defies

everything scientifically that that that

we even understand and as such if this

phenomena was to turn hostile the the

the government is well aware that it

cannot defend its own Skies it cannot

defend its own people that like if if

this

anomalous phenomena turns hos they they

even say aliens whatever somewhere some

else yeah they can just they can kick

our ass there's nothing we can do about

it we're at their Mercy for sure sure

and the government was embarrassed to

admit that and and that's why they

wanted to keep a lid on it all that

that's what I it would cause Mass

hysteria too if they announc hey there's

aliens and they could take us out at any

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sto all lowercase so get to it and let's

get back to

it so then the like we can deduce that

since that's the case that it is in fact

not hostile that there is let me sh let

me talk about the different sides of the

coins on that right like at least three

sides right um

the original reason for not only the

secrecy but the laugh Factor you know

making people smart people don't talk

about this they never said they didn't

exist if you go back to the old

interviews that you see in the series

they start with these like news segments

they always say they're not a threat to

National Security whatever they are

they're not saying they don't exist now

the government has admitted they do

exist why would you keep it secret let

me defend both sides

first if you're like technologically

advancing you're like this is a new

phenomenon we could get a derivative

technology and we would be ahead of the

game whoever wins I mean or whoever

discovers how to replicate this Tech

they win game over they will be

the power most powerful Nation on planet

Earth instantaneously you know how the

atom bomb it was a it was it was used to

stop the war that was that was the idea

right you show the power everybody

pauses Humanity pauses and they go oh

let's not keep doing this so

whoever gets the ability to replicate

these propulsion systems it can be

weaponized and if you have a weapon like

that it's game over so if I was the

government I'd be like holy we

already got the mechanisms in place

because of the atomic program to keep

this compartmentalized and secret

so let's do that till we figure out

what's going on because we need the

technological advantage so that we don't

get duped by another country who is also

working on it China and Russia and but

also what about that you know like the

atomic bomb could have been who's to say

that wasn't provided by aliens well

let's let's get to that kind of idea in

a second let's let's go through why you

keep a secret I want to defend both

sides so there are good people in the US

government that thought like that that

were like oh dude we better get a handle

on this because because we could be

screwed National Security and then

you've got other people people that say

well wait a second here uh to admit that

there is a force there are people that

have craft that can outmaneuver

outperform our greatest Weaponry that we

don't have 360 air dominance 24/7 at all

times globally that is something you

don't want to be telling your enemies or

even your own country so I understand

the secrecy from that point of view

right problem is people keep seeing UFOs

well they was interesting to me was when

the guy said um he's like at what

percentage you know are we allowed to

talk about and he's like 5% so like who

said that no about 5% of UFO sightings

go reported by the Air Force oh hell

yeah I mean I I would say even less than

that I mean because Pilots are seeing

them every day I get calls every day

from people that it would shock the

world it would shock people to know

who's had Direct contact with these UFOs

uh it would really shock people and and

they never coming forward ever because

that Laugh Factory because you know

they' be ridiculed they're not wrapped

so tight well luckily that's a 50s

mentality we're now at the point where

you can say okay I've seen something but

when you have footage infrared thermal

when you have radar and it's not just

Uncle Jim anymore in his airplane being

like I saw something now the sensor

systems the sensor packages are becoming

so just um powerful that we can capture

these things and get so much more data

that's why you're seeing a lot of

military footage from me because it's

what much better than an iPhone so so

back is it though it is because that's

the criticism is that with all of the

advancements of our uh camera technology

still what what the one the one news

reporter said why does it look like

every like a video of UFOs was filmed on

a baked potato yeah so Neil theg grass

Tyson even uh shocked me with his

ignorance on this you know these are

multi-million dollar weapons platforms

not iPhones this is not an Instagram

photo let me just give me a second let

me break this down this is so

important

okay have you seen a whole shitload of

high quality thermal imagery of UFOs

filmed by our government before I

started releasing them back in you know

maybe whatever year I started releasing

them the answer is no you didn't so the

thing is we are not only capturing them

now on all these other platforms but

let's really address the problem here

our technology is getting better first

of all this is an intelligence if they

made these craft in their Advance it's

an intelligence so like I know when

you're trying to record me I know if you

have a nest camera I can see it so I'm

aware of your technology what says

they're not aware of ours and our

Evolution as as human beings the other

thing is the iPhone bro that is not what

you're seeing on the videos I'm

releasing let me explain the difference

you got an iPhone you pull it out shoot

the moon go ahead take a picture see

what you see

right what you're seeing in these videos

is you're seeing this layered sensor

systems so you're seeing Heat Signature

thermal that's the black and white

you're seeing infrared and an infrared

is a light spectrum outside of what the

or it's an amplification of light often

times outside of what the eye can see so

if I take my nvgs night vision goggles

hold them up like that to the sky the

sky is littered with

Suns Stars littered with Suns your eye

can't pick that up but the nvg can so

when you film through that wow you can

see whole spectrums of light you can

even film in the ultraviolet you can get

radar returns you get optic systems are

so powerful so that is a false argument

that people make they don't understand

what they're talking about even Neil

degrass Tyson which really made me sad

we need a voice like him but you know he

needs to like start thinking and not

just talking so here's the deal we are

seeing better footage of UFOs they're

being leaked to me they are thermal

infrared they are in spectrums of light

that are layered there's something

called full motion video which layers

all these spectrums together in color at

night your iPhone can't do that yet so

as we progress with technology and thank

you for letting me explain this and do

this around your patience I appreciate

it we're on Cosmic time you thank you we

are you're going to see a lot

more man they're everywhere the the the

pesky thing about UFOs is they won't go

away is this a good segue to show the

clip of the the the weirdest UFO clip

I've ever seen in my life yeah let's

show it and this has never before seen

yeah it came out in the series yeah and

and Dave you want to check this out over

come over there yeah just play and we'll

narrate over

it this is the that looks like one of

the jellyfish

ones can you

see sit here now for people who

criticize the uh you know resolution the

quality of the video of of UFOs it it

all looks to me a little bit like when

they when they show a footage of drone

strikes from the like you know when when

you see a a missile hit a Target like on

the news and they're showing war footage

it's the same type okay let let me this

is the highest Fidelity footage so the

clearest footage from thermal that

you'll see is from an aerostat which is

a weap or a targeting weapons platform

above these bases to stop incursions

they'll strap like bombs on drones and

these guys are highly trained they're

like this is a they they go through this

training they're like here's what a

trash bag floating in the air looks like

through this thermal sensor here's what

a balloon looks like these guys know

that because they've been trained Ru all

that stuff out I have seen their

training briefings I know for sure so

what what what's interesting to me so

first of all a few things let's break

down you notice how the the video is a

little skewed obviously whoever leaked

it to me and by the way it was leaked to

me multiple times fil the screen yeah

they film the screen and that's probably

in skiff and that's illegal and you know

that's why I protect sources I don't

want to know who sent it to me but I get

it a bunch of times and I start calling

people get firsthand Witnesses so what

you're seeing there it's so funny these

debunkers these are not critics like

debunkers and critics are different

debunkers exclude information to fit

their agenda critics look at something

critically I am way more critical of

videos than people think so what you're

seeing here people are saying oh that's

a smudge on the lens well first of all I

know after 3 and a half years it's not a

smudge on the lens and that was

immediately debunked by yeah dude you

can somebody took the video and you can

see the object rotating so it's like

it's incredible to me the things they'll

say like it's Birds it's uh bird poop on

a lens so it's not that is an object and

it's changing um you know Darkness to

lightness heat it's the cold hot so it's

changing temperature and if you did film

this with an iPhone it would be nice and

crisp and everything but there would be

not that object you wouldn't you

wouldn't see it you would see it would

be black is this night time or daytime

this is night so nobody on the the

that's in the area can see this with

their eye that's one of the trippiest

things so nobody noticed it nobody saw

it in fact an alert went out they shut

off the feed to two other countries I've

talked to everybody that was not

everybody tons of people that were there

that day that night and not only that

but they sent out people with night

vision which is a different spectrum of

lights not thermal and it was invisible

it's not they they they knew where it

was it was invisible so that's like

called sign signature management so that

is a a real problem so this thing is

turning from hot to cold in the thermal

Spectrum couldn't be seen through night

vision which is just a spectrum of light

the human eye can't quite see it's an

amplification of light nobody saw it

also visually no one noticed it the dogs

the people everybody and by the way this

is a this is a base within a base where

this is filmed this this is really lucky

the American Afghanistan so no so this

was um I think I can say now more about

it

this object came in through a base that

was a joint operations base run by the

United States the Navy a couple agencies

and a an aerospace

contractor and the they were the clients

of the base at this time this object

went through this base within a base and

then went out over Lake havania I think

that's how you say it and uh that it was

uh moving out over the water and that's

the footage that I'm release a little

bit more of very soon is like it moving

over the water the thing is is I can't

explain now why where's Lake havania uh

so that is uh right over Iraq so this is

yeah sorry I didn't so the country is

Iraq and it was at a US joint operations

base but a base within a base run by

those contractors and agencies I told

you and nobody's getting in there I'm

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on a daily basis assess this they target

with this system you can shoot an

Al-Qaeda or an Isis tire out of a moving

vehicle you can track it and Target it

at 23 miles or more and it's never

failed the system that's why it's so

high fidelity high quality thermal it's

never failed they track it and they blow

up and Return to Sender bombs so if

somebody puts like a bomb on a drone and

flies it over the wall an incursion

right first time the world is ever

seeing an incursion of a true UAP

designated by our government in a

conflict Zone first time we get footage

of that film by the military that's what

you're seeing now the problem is is that

they couldn't lock the system that they

believe it was active jamming the people

that were there that day they believe

that this object was um somehow

inhibiting their targeting system from

blocking so they they had to optically

slew the camera optically follow it

which is a big part of the story right

but yes they blow up and they Return to

Sender it's a really funny term they use

uh the bombs that come over and it's a

real danger bunny style return to Center

bro you're bringing me a bomb take it

back and sign for it bam you know so

anyway so that's what you're seeing now

it is the strangest morphology you know

shape of a UFO that I've ever seen

jellyfish the jelly and I call it the

jellyfish because of what it did at the

end which I have not provided footage

for yet but it did something it went

trans medium went into the water we'll

talk about that in a sec but the shape

of it let's just talk about that why we

call it the jellyfish some people on

bass were calling it The Spaghetti

Monster right so here's the deal the

jellyfish morphology of UFOs has been

reported since the beginning of UFO

sightings just because you haven't seen

it doesn't mean that that that's a new

thing if you look at like a John Keel

book called operation Trojan Horse one

of the first shapes he lists for known

UFOs is jellyfish the reason that I

dubbed that rather than the spaghetti

monster which was pretty cool is because

it went into the water so what you're

not seeing in the footage I provided and

maybe one day that footage will go

public today is not that day but I will

tell you it does and was filmed and the

object does this it goes out over Lake

cabonia if I'm saying it right it stops

on a dime it descends stiff into the

water and for 17 minutes operators were

told to track the area so they did they

panned out they watched the object does

a controlled us scent up out of the

water after 17 minutes and then shoots

off at 45° it wasn't instantaneous

motion but it was a rapid acceleration

to the point where the camera could

couldn't track it anymore after like 30

mil away that did happen there is

footage of it and I do hope that one day

people get to see that I am not in a

position to release that but I am

testifying to you and take that for

whatever you want that footage exist why

not what are you waiting for

yeah I am going to uh so I don't have

that footage it's not in the safe I'm

going back

what's I don't I I don't have that

footage to provide to the public uh

however I know precisely where it exists

and I will be

informing people within government

exactly where to look people that have

been lied to I will be doing that

straight up and then it's up to them can

they declassify can they get it out but

I will be doing that it's interesting

about the Flying Spaghetti Monster name

because there's a religion that's mostly

tongue and cheek have you ever heard of

it I it's vaguely

yeah it's like their their God is a

flying spaghetti with meatballs for eyes

and so I wonder if maybe there's some

connection where you know someone that's

the reason they named it that Marines

yeah Marines are creative individuals

man so they were like you know but I'll

tell you this what it looked like so the

people that I know that had the closest

uh View and the most direct view as it's

being filmed when you got close into it

it the the things hanging down like the

tendrils or whatever the words the

things that appeared to be hanging down

there it was stiff there was there was

no movement weird they had geometric

attachments it it was a sort of

geometric attachments and the word the

exact words used to describe it to me is

that like like uh armor and scales those

are the two words like scales so

whatever this was was was made it's not

just a bunch of floating

balloons I mean these guys are trained

to know the difference of course

debunker say it's bird on the lens

it's balloons and you know look I can't

shoot out of someone's head so

they just got to live with that but this

is not those things this is a UAP

unidentified anomalous phenomena or UFO

now what it is where it's from what the

intent who made it don't know maybe

there's a terrestrial answer I don't

know yeah I mean we uh what we don't

talk about a lot is the UFOs that are

living under the sea I was just thinking

that same thing they're doing the wi

files yesterday on this it's the

Uso look at you wow and so they

unidentified

submerged and they said it's around the

Bermuda Triangle and and they don't know

what it it's run by but the wifi

Atlantis and it could it could have been

Atlantis but also what was really

fascinating was they had uh Christopher

Columbus his diary he had a sighting

that's right and he had a sighting and

that he said a light was under the water

like there's no lights in 1470

whatever us O's is something that I was

from the highest ranking military

individuals that I've ever spoken with

in private over a decade ago I was urged

to know and understand and look at that

UFOs are one thing unidentified flying

object but Usos are the core of what's

going on that's what was conveyed to me

now why that's important why did we

change it to UAP instead of UFO

unidentified flying object now

unidentified anomalous phenomena okay

here's why because they are what's

called all domain we track UFOs with

satellites pointed outward in space we

track UFOs in air and we track UFOs

under the water all domain space air and

CA unidentified anomalous phenomena

covers all domain so that's why they did

that once something breaches those

different you know areas they call it

trans medium when there's no inertial

effect or they call it trans medium if

it can do that go between all three so

you see no inertial effect which is no

slowdown from space to air to see and a

good example of that would be the Tic

Tac UFO event with Commander David

fraver my good old friend and Buddy and

the guy that filmed it Commander Chad

Underwood it's the most famous UFO case

ever now what people forget is the Tic

Tac UFO wasn't one object it was a

series of weeks of tracking things

dropping from outer space

down to sea level in less than a second

without a sonic boom transm medium no

inertial effect no Sonic Boom so that

was happening during that whole thing of

the Tic Tac UFO event series but

remember this people might not have

caught my first report George and I

broke that story before the New York

Times there was something under the

water for sure there it was docking they

were docking was the word told me was

something a Uso under the water can they

have they tracked them moving at high

speeded underwater yes 100% so there the

resistance of the water isn't an issue

correct is this the one where the Tic

Tac video actually has there are four

more minutes of the video that's the

gimbal I'll explain to you the

difference 2015 was the gimbal 2004 was

the Tic Tac in 2015 was the Gimbal and

the goast those releases the gimbal is

that one that mechanically rotates

Against the Wind and you hear the pilot

saying like holy

120,000 there's a fleet of them yeah

right so what he's saying and I know to

be true is that in that footage where

you see the gimbal rotating it looks

like the Bob Lazar Flying Saucer I mean

it's like shaped like a saucer when it

rotates in front of it is I think five

other objects that were kind of like um

what do you call it when you when you

you go along like a caravan or UFOs or

something escorts right a flock a flock

I don't know what you call like a a

flock ufu a flap um yeah so there there

there were on that day there were other

UFOs in front of that one and there's

four extra minutes of footage that

hasn't been released to the public and

again I'm not in a position to release

that I do believe that if we put enough

pressure maybe the dod and the

government will declassify that and put

it forward that's what we're fighting

for but hell yeah dude that was the

gimbal it's it's a good case what do you

think is the maybe some specul on why

whatever these things driving the crafts

why do they want to be so secretive like

why are they hiding themselves from us

yeah speculation mode right because I I

don't have direct communication with the

aliens you know I don't know who's

operating them but um here's what I

notice what I notice is that the pattern

that we have seen through human history

has been one of observation and not

direct

intervention typically there are cases

of intervention you go all the way back

in history to like Alexander the Great

and like basically like Shields of fire

like beaming down wall to break it

through so he can invade I don't know I

wasn't there that's history right but in

modern history you have these UFOs

landing and communicating with with like

children you have the aerial School

event which is powerful I know the two

girls that were standing right there by

these beings that was in Africa yeah I

keep messing this up the the exact

country that it was uh zimb I think

Zimbabwe it was Rua I don't know I've

been I've been to Africa a bunch man and

I got confused I was just Zimbabwe I

watched a documentary yeah it was

Zimbabwe yeah so so basically the these

um children at the time lisel and Salma

they're incredible human beings they

were like within a meter like three plus

feet of these beings but my point is

this is that there seems to be an

observational program uh that is the

primary thing now some people say that's

prep in the battlefield some people say

they're studying us look we're the

greatest show in the solar system planet

Earth I mean come on man we got it all

war fighting the Kardashians we

got everything right so why wouldn't you

watch us now do you go up to an ant hill

and do you like talk with the ants no

you you know you study them what do you

do to cattle you feed them you water

them you give them antibiotics and then

you eat them so I don't know

what is going on but I do know that

there is direct contact with a lot of

people and what's said to them has kind

of been ubiquitous they they they kind

of repeat the same kind of stuff whoever

these people are that are flying these

things now can we trust what they tell

us oh no man trust is earned and if

you're not revealing yourselves you're

not revealing yourselves the true

architects of the secrecy would be the

visitors themselves you should read a

book called childhood's End by Arthur C

Clark you know who he Arthur C Clark was

a guy like a futurist he like predicted

the Internet it's got some great books

one's called childhood's end and in that

book he's got these craft and what they

do is they post up in the sky and for

Generations they just sit there

acclimate Humanity to their presence

because they got a little dirty secret

that they that they know it's going to

be hard to breach the second they make

humans I don't want to ruin the book but

they look like demons wow so I

don't know why the message that that

aliens that visited that school in

Africa gave to the children was you're

trashing the planet you have to change

this and that was so much before that

was a thing in in humanity right I asked

um lisel one of the two girls like why

do you think you were shown them by the

way it was like a projection in their

minds and it was like mesmerizing like

the the second they turned to their

friends it disappeared so if you believe

them or not it did happen but if you

believe them or not like I asked her why

do you think they said that to you you

know it'd be weird like I don't know

what and if I was an alien I don't know

what I would say to somebody I'd

probably give him a t-shirt or something

why did you say

that what are you supposed to do with

that and then you made a good point it

was so long ago what year was ' 80s

early 80s dude I'm sorry my fact are

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let's get back to it I go what do you

mean she goes just talking about it yeah

I think that was the point spreading the

word spread the word the other thing it

makes me think of is that old Twilight

Zone from the 60s where they find the

book that the aliens had to serve man

was the name of the book they translated

it and then they were working on

translating what was inside of it and

they're like oh they're here to help us

and at the end the famous line is it's a

cookbook no to serve man dude will you

will you text me that episode uh you the

title of it like ser oh my God I I

really hope we're not food man and by

the way you taste better than me so go

with him first man I just like yeah I

don't want to be eaten by no alien let

let me ask you this um you when we talk

about the you know encounters beings and

and that yeah

the the physical

appearance seems to be uh pretty

consistent where like like we we hear um

these beings referred to as Grays yeah

yeah and and it's like the most

stereotypical like the big large eyes

the tiny mouth and nose like the little

kind of Elf sort of uh thin like that

like that uh I I I feel like I want to

believe that that's just sort of a hokey

like

stereotype however it would seem that

like

credible there there's some credibility

to how uh widely consistent that is

where you're standing that is the

popular understanding of what the beings

might look like is the spindly 3 and 1/2

fet to 4 feet gray aliens with big

wraparound eyes and big heads very

little features as if it's a human being

that's evolved without the need for

speech or to eat the same way MH where

I'm standing I mean in my email like

pull it up right now it's like it's like

a slot machine of encounters and it is

not the only structural type of this

visitor that I I see everything and more

under the rainbow dude it's it's like

beings that look just like us 8 foot

tall there's like these uh reptilian

ones that people report this is

throughout history right um there's the

Mantis looking ones there's the tall

grades the short grades I mean I I was

told by by people who who I trust have

more knowledge than

me that there is a cacophony of Life out

there just outside of our Earth and

every type of kind of thing that could

be created with Biology has been created

and and and some are more advanced than

others and some likely are visiting here

so I I don't know but you're right now

that image was kind of popularized by

like the encounters by Betty and Barney

Hill which is the first modern abductees

although it was happening for so long

you know they kind of came out forward

into the public and also this guy

Whitley streber wrote a book I think

called uh contact or commun communion

communion yeah and you know so he had

that that image on the cover so the

answer that I have to that although I

don't know if I have many answers but

it's that you're hearing something

something that you see in kind of the

popular culture I am being reported to

on a daily basis for over a decade a

much wider variety of species of

visitor I am an untrusting person until

you've earn my trust though I don't

believe I think people can make you see

if I put on some kind of weird mask

and roll up on you you're going to think

I'm someone else right so I think there

might be an element of that and jock

ballet a real deep thinker on this

subject he wrote a book and on the cover

is like this masked alien that has these

different like the jester face and all

this we might en be

encountering what they want us to see

them as that makes sense to me and it

could be weirder than that yeah I read

the book uh project serpo you're you're

familiar with it yeah and I'm I was

convinced it was real but when I was

talked to you about it last time you

like oh yeah the fantasy book I'm like

it's a fantasy but it's uh you know I

mean how true is that because you talk

about what Al and tari and the two sons

and they had these documented people

that went there and and it was kind of

like a hitchhiker Guide to the Galaxy

where in a sense where it they would go

to the stop that planet was like a

stopping ground for the entire galaxy

and they describe different alens coming

in and out sometimes they look like us

sometimes they look like gray sometimes

they look like all different I mean are

is there any truth to any of the project

serpo yeah I mean so again it's just an

opinion from some bearded guy right but

it's like uh

I know some of the people involved in

that era and I know that current day I

have provided evidence that I've decided

to not release to the public because I

know that it has been tainted through

protection programs of like black budget

programs trying to influence uh

falsehoods put forward but they smartly

what they do is they wrap in it some

truth so when there were like the leaks

of the mj12 documents famously back in

the day in the UFO World some of that

information

ACC so and even

today a lot of what I end up obing I

need to be very cautious that there

could be some like I recognize that

program name the public does not know

that program name doesn't mean what I

read on that page with the program name

on it is real information I have been

shown what are alleged to be classified

documents and indeed are classified

documents like you know you could back I

could backtrack that and find out but

that doesn't mean that what's on that

page is correct information so you have

to be very careful so project serpo

there are elements of Truth to that I

can't distinguish which ones but there

are elements I'm just they sent up 12

people they I don't know bro I don't

know I just don't know the answer to

that as far as uh what aliens look like

like the way I think about it is on

Earth Here intelligent life you know we

have us shaped like this two arms two

legs head on top then there's octopus

that are nothing like us and then you

even a dolphin being a mammal looks so

different than us that it seems absurd

that anything coming from another planet

would look anything like us do you makes

me think the time travel thing with the

standard alien do you know how to feed a

baby

panda bamboo I can teach you man you get

in a panda suit and you go feed it oh I

see where you're going with that yeah

man so I don't trust for one second you

know the the look of what the true form

is being hidden come on on man I could

put a mask on you that you can't even

see close up isn't you so I just like

the thing is with this the whole UFO

thing is I don't know man I don't know

what's true from them whoever they are

um I try to get things that I can sink

my teeth into that we can then have a

discussion about so video evidence is

great but the big questions we can't

even start on that until our government

comes clean there today just today there

was a classified briefing they were

waiting for to find out is David grush

telling you the truth I saw the newsp a

big deal and I was shocked I'm getting

some texts from you know Congressional

people and they're telling me okay they

were able to validate some stuff they

didn't completely Stonewall us now I

haven't had those calls yet because

Steve rolls up with you guys but that

was today and so I'm I'm hopeful that

they got more information but here's the

rub or not the rub here's the Ace in the

Hole the Inspector General of the United

States

I know some of what you've been briefed

on because I literally sent people your

way instead of to arrow and the the UFO

program because I don't trust them

anymore they got a new director could be

good let's find out Sean kpatrick didn't

you know he OB fiscated to the American

public but the new director really hope

that he's a good guy here he is I sent

people to the

iig encouraged them to fill out

whistleblower complaints direct

eyewitness who work on these programs I

know that that individual is briefed on

them so in that conversation that he

just had today I'm hoping he did offer

some of that truth because if not these

people they're locked they're ready

they're done done with being oppressed

with this and they're going to come

forward so I really hope that

information is being presented properly

to Congress oh that sounded like a

threat oh I'm full of threats man

but really like I'm a teddy bear I like

make a threat and walk away like I don't

want to fight you know um the uh the the

2B series um like one thing that really

really kind of moved me a little bit was

um the people who have had encounters I

don't want to classify them as alien

abductions but people who have been

visited by beings yeah yeah I saw that

part I I did see that very cool yeah

people who have been visited by beings

guy J right and and they feel like they

can't they can't share this with anybody

because because they're going to be uh

labeled as crazy they might lose their

job they might they they might you

know get divorced or whatever like they

just feel like there there's a sadness

about having this experience that you

can't share honestly and um that that

what in that section of the show they

talked about again like the the

consistency of the account of all of

these visits yeah Y and so I I want to

ask like

what what do you consider uh the most

credible like kind of

official uh account of one of these

visits uh I mean so there's the Betty

and Barney Hill case which is really

powerful incredible if you really

understand why um that how that came out

why it came out I find that to be a very

very credible case with physical

evidence and and radar and all this

stuff Travis Walton and that would be my

second one is Travis Walton and he has

this incredible account look his friends

were looking at going to jail they

thought they that that they killed him

when he was missing and he was missing

for a number of days he pops back up now

not everything about Travis do I know to

be true but I that event is the most

kind of fascinating as one that I would

say you should really look at Travis

Walton Betty and Barney Hill but I mean

I get wait wait Betty and Barney were

their names was that before The

Flintstones and that's why the

Flintstones name this ain't the Jetson

man yeah it's Flintstones but it it

interesting because like wait a second

Betty and Barney Barney well no I'm

wondering which came first like chicken

of the egg I don't know they're actual

names was it in the 50s or something

yeah so look uh right there came first

yeah Betty and Barney Hill is they must

have that must been a little like nod to

that in the cartoon and eventually an

alien did visit the cartoon I can't

remember that little you got some weird

ass memory you tell me all these cool

things I don't know you got to inform me

man why have you not been informing me

of these cool things all the TV shows

that had an alien buddy like Mor from

orc or Al or um My Favorite Martian and

even like I Dream of Genie I always felt

like she was possibly an alien well ET

ET and every single time they got to

hide the alien yeah they got to hi yeah

on their own that's their own person

personal choice they're like this is

only for me well look if if I'm going to

slip so like documentar like I'm reading

here actually on the screen like Zeta

reticuli incident that's that's super

interesting

because there are things that repeat

themselves so like even Bob Lazar if you

go back to like kind of my gateway drug

into UFOs was this guy bobazar so I I

made this movie bobazar Area 51 and

flying saucers and I'm I'm proud of that

movie because for me it took many years

but what it was was me trying to get to

the truth on this is this guy a liar or

is he telling it as it is uh I can tell

you now I know that he is telling it as

it is what he's saying to you is

accurate correct and true it happened to

him he was shown a bunch of stuff about

the aliens like in like WR written form

so he's really good about it he's like I

put my hands on the propulsion system I

know that's real now they told me a

bunch of stuff and they showed me

documents with a bunch of stuff he goes

it's words on paper Jeremy I I I don't

know but this is what they told me one

of the things they told him was that

these beings that made these craft and

gave him cool names like um not

spaghetti M you gave names like the

sport model that's the one he worked on

they told him that was from Zeta

reticuli and and the exact and the exact

uh planet of that star system right so I

just saw the Betty in Barney Hill I

guess they mentioned Zeta reticuli so

that's a common theme yeah I up

project Sero was Zeta reticuli as well

really yeah so there there's often times

disinformation with real information

I've noticed that like so not to be

cruel but like hey you intelligence

agents I know who you are people contact

me and they'll give me a good piece of

information real legitimate like a

source then I come to find

out what agencies they work for what not

I use my spies and and it turns out they

start trying to feed me false

information so that's the game that's

always played the best way to get you to

believe something fake is to seat it

with real information too yeah but like

even with the Travis Walton story they

all pass the LI detector like five

separate times Yeah man so like yeah but

those things you just put a tack in your

shooting I mean I don't know would know

got one I've been practicing on for like

two years I don't know do you have a lot

of people reaching out to you that are

just cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs and you have

to filter them out like

predominantly besides my family who are

the worst um yeah yeah of course man you

you know look UFOs and the subject is so

so big it draws in the the crazy or

draws out the crazy from people we all

want to believe something right so of

course man but I I don't want to like

on it and people like I enjoy

getting the descriptions whether I

believe them or not or can prove them or

not I really do enjoy hearing what

people have experienced of course

there's a wide range I mean sometimes

I've referred people to Medical uh

people like in a nice like I have people

like at a major university

who want to study individuals that have

delusions about the UFO phenomenon

compared to real events to see why

that's a popular culture thing there's a

university major university is doing

that so I'll push people to them when

appropriate yeah 5150 these people I

don't do anything I just don't answer

emails I thought it was a a pretty

uh

major claim that the government

um

prioritizes UAP yeah more than weapons

of mass destruction like they consider

uh you know alien activity to be a

bigger threat than nuclear war well

those the nuclear warheads have been

disarmed by correct by aliens so yeah I

mean that puts them above yeah the we

we've had you said that we the that uh

our nuclear programs have been turned

turned off and turned on Yeah by both in

Russia and the United States mstom Air

Force base in the United States and

multiple bases in the 60s and Russia

George nap smuggled documents back can

never go back to Russia George uh from

the UFO programs during glassos and

perista in the early 90s and I believe

we did cover this the first time we

spoke with you uh to to some degree but

we

asked um the making of like the

Oppenheimer the the atom bomb and and

and I think we we asked whether uh UAP

phenomena kicked up when we got maybe

even kicked off when when we got into

kicked up not kicked off yeah okay well

they started Alamos right where he was

making the bomb right and that's where

the Roswell 1947 crash was in the paper

New Mexico since the beginning of the

atomic program the influx of observation

by UAP or UFOs uh has increased

obviously we have very powerful weapons

that could destroy the Earth maybe the

Earth is precious maybe that's why the

kids get that message maybe that's why

we get an influx UFOs maybe that's why

they show us they can turn on or off as

a display of power our nuclear weapons

so that we don't up and like the

match that really kind of checks out

with me because like it seems evident

that there's nothing hostile about the

the UAP overtly hostile I agree right

because if they wanted to kick our ass

they would and we have no no way to

defend even the government seems to

acknowledge that and so the idea of

Earth being precious and them wanting to

preserve the Earth uh would would seem

the most likely or we're

containers like you don't go and beat up

your cattle before you eat them so so

I'm just saying there's two I don't know

the answer I'm saying there's two sides

of the coin I lean with you I'm an

optimist I kind of lean with you they

want to us up they us up

however we don't really know the intent

and so you just have to be open to the

and that I get it that's the military's

point of view too they could be our

creators they could be essentially Our

God and they were their little

experiment or they're just like a kid

and this is their little like guinea pig

cage okay let me ask you this um the

speculation that it was aliens who built

the pyramids who did built Stonehenge

who we talked about that on the last

episode I remember I'm kind of like not

as knowledgeable in that or don't feel

like you know I speak from personal um

opinion but I I will say this even

without the ancient history modernday

history George knp and I did an episode

on weaponized he got this guy who wrote

um the day after Roswell and it was an

old who checked out and he did have the

roles he did and he said he seeded our

industry with technology from the UFOs I

really believe that yeah that was his

claim what's seated mean seed means like

you propagate it to 150 years ago we

didn't have anything and now look at us

there's that's such a short amount of

time for how much technology we've just

suddenly like and then it' be like one

guy like you know like Tesla invents all

this stuff or I think they just implant

it into these people and they're like oh

just give that person he'll spread the

word to the rest of humanity and they'll

have some more technology I I don't know

but yeah no and I I I think it's a

really cool idea and and here's

the here's the deal though like even

without ancient stuff even without

pyramids and all that like although it

is pretty suspect the idea there's

pyramids in Africa and in South America

don't get me started because this is not

my thing but yeah like I you know it's a

it's a subject to talk about going on

there but we don't even have to look

back to ancient times right if we

understand with Colonel Coro and what he

reported to us when he was running these

programs was that they seeded or put

this in this technology into industry

now the thing is we can look at modern

day we know our United States government

with a joint Allied group of foreign

materials program called the five eyes

foreign materials program are reverse

engineering UFO technology we know they

are doing that so now there's there's a

supportive document and I

mean look into that foreign materials

program from the five eyes right so if

we are reverse engineering and the DIA

is reverse engineering this and

other corporations like locked Martin

and Bae and all these companies if

they're doing it then they are

definitely get

derivative Technologies to bring even

into the skins of our stealth craft or

whatever so they're doing it now we can

look to the pyramids it's being done now

what is

that what was he talking about on the uh

on the show I think it was episode one

where he's was saying yeah if you look

at the Moon there's that crater and

there's a six mile high antenna talking

about John le what the yeah is that

real so you got a glimpse in into the

craziness that I started in to get

involved with UFOs in episode one you

saw episode one yep okay so I when

they're talking about my life that's

Lear jet John Lear yeah they say well I

think they kind of say like Jeremy kind

of started you know doing with this guy

John leir filming with this guy so this

is the son of William peer William peer

was the inventor of the eight track uh

cassette tape or stereo he motra Ola is

a company that was built off of his

company um he invented the Lear Jet and

his dad was a force of Nature and he

also was involved with UFO stuff but his

son John kind of was the disinherited

son like the will I read the will it was

like basically his dad gave him a can of

dog food when he died and every line

says except for John Lear like so

everybody gets this except for John le

they didn't have a good relationship but

John leer is the most wild bastard I

ever met I I I I loved him like a family

member I started filming about UFOs

thinking he's my gateway drug he's the

way for me to get in right um at the end

of his life he he and I he disliked me

very much and I still loved him um he

was a wild man though and so that's how

I got started he told me a bunch of

stuff and no most of it's complete

nonsense he talked about like

you know however many 98 races on the

surface of the Sun I mean it was almost

like he's testing you to see if you're a

total idiot M but some of the stuff he

told me

checked out and validated it's like if

you have no filter and everybody gives

you UFO stuff because you're John le you

know the son of William P Le and you

don't have a filter and you spew it all

out at people he did that to me and what

I got over all those years of filming

with him is certain things that I found

out were

true and like like Bob lazar's

employment at site for reverse

engineering UFOs so a lot of the leads

that I got were great but that's what

you see in episode one of the 2B series

is kind of how I started into the foo

thing with that guy John leer The

Godfather of conspiracy you know with

John le um why did he you know sour on

you near the end of his life did you

expose him or something or no I didn't

expose him I I loved him I I cared for

him um I ultimately the truth of the

matter is that his family made it

completely impossible for me to make the

film after I think he like ended up

signing something on a napkin after I

had set up my whole years of filming

with him giving all the rights to a

family member who then trying to extort

me I mean it was like ridiculous I just

pieced out on that so I think he really

wanted me to make the movie on him and I

ended up making it on Bob Lazar but

that's because he made it impossible for

me to make the movie on him got it yeah

I I I did care for him and there's a lot

of kind of you know he'll he was kind of

pissed at the end but like you know we

had a run together and the so I I think

we left on okay terms when he died yeah

um if aliens are trying to protect the

Earth are they doing a pretty bad

job we're still

here right but

uh does it feel like uh you know like

World War II like crazy like just kind

of imminent stuff and and uh the the

fact of the the one thing being filmed

in Iraq like Iraq was like the river

Tigris and Euphrates like the first

civilization Sumeria like and then a t

like that's like a major like Hub of

we're seeing them everywhere the the

reason why like the Baghdad Phantom I

put out from Iraq the mosa orb from Iraq

and then also this one the jellyfish

right U there's one I also later in the

series called the chandelier I release

and that's over the Persian Gulf so in

that area the reason you're just seeing

a lot is because those are active

conflict zones with a lot of monitoring

systems and then that is current and so

a lot of that stuff comes to me and I

feel comfortable releasing that but

there is footage from even within so

this will mess you up and I think I

mentioned the series The reason I took

the jellyfish UFO seriously is because I

have direct firsthand knowledge of a

video from pantex I think that's in

Texas it's one of our nuclear Armament

and disarmament facilities

one of the most secretive facilities we

have in a lot of ways of a jellyfish UFO

jellyfish morphology UFO coming in down

between the nuclear silos making a pass

through like a corridor and then popping

up and shooting off at 45 degrees with

instantaneous movement so I was already

attuned to the idea that this shape of

UFO moving and seemingly doing some sort

of surveillance or reconnaissance of

military bases is something that has

happened recently and in many places so

you're just hearing about Iraq you know

because that's where we have the

capability of documenting not only that

but they're also there to check it out

the aliens are looking at it and we have

whoever these things but also remember I

released so 2004 Tic Tac UFO that was

west coast of California 2015 gimal and

goest that was East Coast I have reports

that I I actually talked about it it was

uh in uh off the coast of Japan the

South Asian Sea swarms UFOs I released

radar thermal infrared and deck footage

from 2019 with 10 warships being swarmed

simultaneously by over 100 UFOs I

provided all of that footage it was

confirmed by the Pentagon so man look

it's happening everywhere all the time

all around you you know you know just

just hearing you say those things it

makes me realize a lot of them sound

like they're around big bodies of water

is that is are there more UFO sightings

Usos dog yeah dog Usos um but not the

only ones but I'm talking about either

above or below the surface of the US

dog saying there more activity near

coastal areas there's a Preposterous

preponderance of

reports showing that the water is really

important when it comes to the um maybe

maybe that's where they go okay let's

just try this maybe that's where they go

to chill now let me say why think it's

so simple I mean people have talked

about this it's not a new idea but if

you are going between Star systems and

planets right you have to worry about

what like heat and pressure and

atmosphere right so you got some craft

what is going to be the same anywhere in

the Galaxy pretty much the same if you

have liquid water it has to be within a

very narrow temperature and there's

going to be a very narrow amount of

pressure depending on the depth of that

water so if I was a space fairing

civilization visiting other planets I

would look for waterm Sweet let's go

park our craft there we know the

temperature we know the pressure so that

could be why water has always played a

role in lakes and oceans and they are

absolutely reported coming in and out of

the water all the time but they're also

in their our skies they're also in space

we have great High Fidelity satellite

video and imagery of UFOs full craft and

full ship that are not released to the

public but do exist captured by our

satellites when Neil Armstrong came back

from the Moon I mean I know there's

going to be so many people that are

on this but like there is that

like recording of Buzz aldr and Neil

Armstrong they saw that thing that was

following them and they were like

disgusting internally like dude how what

the are we even going to say you

know what I'm talking about I I have an

astronaut story you know yeah there's a

lot of both Russian and US astronauts

who have contacted me directly and some

are public about what it is they they've

talked about some of recordings have

been leaked some of it's fake on the

internet some of the things are fake um

I will say this I spent a lot of time

with a sixth man who walked on the moon

his name is Dr Edgar Mitchell and before

he died uh I filmed with him the last

filming anybody ever did with him I did

three days with him I and I traveled

with him for a little bit there he is uh

this dude was that that's how we know

about the the wilson d Davis memo which

you guys like is too nerdy to get into

but this is a guy that knew

and with beyond a shadow of a doubt he

was informed on UFO reverse engineering

programs straight up yes astronauts will

maybe sometimes see things but I don't

know I wasn't there but I've heard the

same thing as you yeah I friend's a

pilot for a major airlines and I'm like

don't don't you you're probably you

probably see aliens sometimes or

something or something that looks like

it he's like no we have the shades down

most of the time yeah except all the

pilots calling me now have started

buying GoPros and sticking them on their

Windows because I have video footage

from Pilots over the last 3 months of

the most anomalous moving in front

of them that they have gotten so they

were like we need sensor packages call

Bob Lazaro ask him what we need to put

CU he's like person for their personal

use yeah see there's a there's a dirty

little space here which is that are they

going to be in trouble filming out the

window while they're flying these are

commercial airline pilots so we're

trying to figure out what the legality

is of that and some people say like my

buddy Ryan Graves runs that you Aeros or

you know safety flight thing when it

comes to Aviation and they got this cool

Reporting System they're putting

together are they going to get in

trouble because you can hear what flight

they're on and I have tons of video

we're just trying to decide can we put

it out to be analyzed I mean I'll show

it to you it's tons of video from

different Pilots all around the United

States and the world who do you talk to

about you talk to a a a Aerospace lawyer

like I know who who the FAA not they

have to yeah policy has to change or

they should just put cameras on all

flights and feed them live right into

the cockpit and also to everybody that's

sitting there imagine that you want to

see UFOs I would get on a flight if an

airline advertised Galactic Federation

flights here we go you're going to have

in front of you six camera view all

around the plane look for UFOs while

you're on our flight to Brazil I mean

it' be so cool well

watching that would be cool yeah is

there any other speculation that maybe

is Life on Mars I was thinking about

that when you were talking about the

water because they say that there's

probably was water back at one point in

history and yeah but I haven't really

heard much lately about people it used

to be all the time martians don't hear

that very much and maybe the visitors

were trying to play us on that and

venuti right but um I will send you a

document that that uh is public it was

by the CIA that will really blow your

mind about that so you remind me I'll

text it to you thanks the um reverse

engine engineering it like if the

technology is so Advanced like is there

any hope for accomplishing anything

trying to reverse engineer it and does

anybody running these reverse

engineering programs have any idea of

what they're actually like aiming at

yeah and uh you know like you say it's

game over whoever does it first but like

does anybody even know what the what the

goal is yeah the goal is to uh up our

game with Material Science so we can

create what they call metam materials

which are like Alloys that have a a

different effect in their environments

when you when they're man-made or

human-made or made by an intelligence

I've got an example in my house I can

show you and you can feel a physical

effect it's really pretty wild it's

called graphine what they're trying to

do is get the material science to the

level where we could duplicate the not

only the engines of these machines the

technology because we understand how

they work pretty much but gravity

propulsion yeah that's the everybody

believes it that's how it is but matter

is the only thing that produces gravity

as as far as we know it or shows us the

effects of gravity but these reportedly

actually produce gravity that's what

bobazar said back in the day and produce

energy too like it was speculated in the

uh series that if if we do manage the

reverse uh engineering if we do kind of

uh get uh capable on the level of this

thing then all of a sudden like oil is

no longer needed like energy like like

uh they were producing energy

without without issue then so like that

poses a threat to the whole fossil fuel

industry to the yeah I've heard that

I've heard that for a long time and I

don't think Society has the

infrastructure to immediately change to

a new form of energy we'd have to be

able to replicate the devices to create

this maybe it's not just a principle of

the universe but it's also Material

Science challenge so I don't think the

world would change immediately I don't

think that's why there's secrecy oh

throw down industry are you kidding me

theyd look at that they'd be like oh

yeah let's make money on that so there

would be a way to monetize it now people

would disagree with me for sure a lot of

people disagree with me that that we

have reverse engineered UFOs people say

I'm like cool man show me one so I don't

know how far we've gotten Bob Lazar said

we couldn't get anywhere everybody I've

ever talked to said we can barely get

anywhere on this because we can't

reproduce the physical materials however

one day we will one day we will be able

to and then we'll see how it changes

industry all right what are the next

steps with the government do we have any

more big hearings coming up are they

gonna release more than nine pages of uh

of anything like right that one today

right there's one today was big

apparently I haven't talked to everybody

that was there but there was some

information you know look it's it's baby

steps man this doesn't like I wish I

could kick open the door and there you

go even just just putting out new

footage it's baby steps controversy but

what is the hope steo I mean that's the

deal right what's the

hope I can tell you for sure that it's

going to be easy way or hard way meaning

I would like to see the slow process of

the National Defense authorization act

they they have some things in place now

for UFOs I'd like to see it work that

way for people to go to the Inspector

General of intelligence for people to be

protected for NASA to catch up they're

not even allowed to study classified

stuff they have to only use public

domain stuff I would like to see this

happen in a controlled manner but an

uncontrolled manner the hard way might

be the other option what I mean by that

is more leaks of videos that are even

higher

Fidelity more people coming forward that

will risk their positions in current

jobs in agencies or even their pensions

or even their clearances and they'll put

it on the line and they'll talk right in

front to Congress in open Congressional

hearings all of that all of that is

going to happen if our intelligence

agencies and our The Gatekeepers of this

information don't provide a a a

legitimate legal and safe process for

people to bring this information forward

people are frustrated and I'll tell you

that for sure so easy way or hard way

it's going to happen not tomorrow not

the next day but it's not going to take

forever and you know I already know

because people are they're ready I've

actually recorded with folks you know

that I will put that out when they say I

can so it it's coming man you know

whatever this is and we'll figure it out

we'll adapt last

question um did

Mexico

acknowledge that their big reveal of

their little Mexican uh aliens

that like there lackluster right was it

the bodies like like what was your like

what's the final word on that like

finish episode two they blew it finish

episode two so yeah so you've watched uh

episode one and half of episode two I'm

close to the end of episode two okay I

think that they go through what I think

I make some strong words about that and

you know we'll see how that goes uh

episode three I I can't wait for you to

see because I show um the the chandelier

UAP a completely different from from

these classified archives from what I

understand um this this other strange uh

image from a video so so here's the deal

watch the series I do a bad job because

it's just I I don't I didn't even watch

it myself in fully yet but it you know

on Tu watch it because that that third

episode there's another bombshell and we

do get into that Mexico alien thing they

get well into it in episode to yeah I I

read I haven't watched that whole thing

yet but I read on Reddit where someone

was had just watched it and they said it

was so satisfying how um the Mexican

mummy aliens were dealt with were dealt

with yeah because we want to you really

you did the did it justice nice and

that's you know I think uh Ryan Graves

was there and I think it was like he was

um kind of shocked he said I felt punked

yeah I I saw that part yeah um I my

question was um has the Mexican

Government acknowledged like have they

said uh our bad okay but but but

remember it's not the Mexican Government

putting it out it's UFO researchers that

are look I'll give you the skinny on

this that I haven't said before ever

which is that I was approached many many

years ago to be like the face of the

mummies I'm like who the are you

I'm like what are you talking about so

look I don't know dude I haven't done

analysis but let me tell you it doesn't

look like Tasty Cake here's the deal

there's other things we should be

focusing on and those things are real

and they're happening now you look at at

the news in Senate and Congress you see

what's going on the language that was

put forward to rip out control of these

UFO programs from from the people that

are holding it that's real and that was

informed and it didn't pass completely

how we wanted but it they wrote it and

they wrote it for a reason so we are now

in a new age where we can have this

conversation and some people laugh they

maybe they just don't get it we're

seeing things like this but ultimately

um the stuff I'm putting out I hope

moves the needle forward this

conversation will be different you know

in 6 months8 months than we're having

right now because I know certain things

are coming and there's going to be more

people like David grush and David grush

will expand on what he said and and what

he can testify to so it's it's exciting

times to be a human being on planet

Earth right yeah what is there that just

Everyday People Like Us could do to push

forward and get more things revealed is

there something that we can do to help

yeah man we are all Everyday People

we're all doing this just because people

call me doesn't mean that other people

don't have power man you know what you

do is you get loud you ask questions you

ask for reports um you know if you find

somebody that's got something really

interesting send it to me if you know

people in the military that are having

encounters and you know they they can I

am I am able to receive anything from

anybody so what people can do is they

can talk about it they can normalize it

they can reduce the stigma and most

importantly they can just pay attention

if you pay attention with an open mind

you'll see what's going on it is deep

what's happening and so I think that's

the number one thing we need to bring

this into pop culture in a way where

we're having the right

conversation all right yeah well dude

been a wild ride dude it's an epic wild

ride dude I love you bro and uh there

your first episode was such a Crusher

man I I I hope this one uh gets as much

love Yeah man well now now we're talking

about more so people should definitely

watch this one yeah thanks for letting

me be a part of it too this is awesome

great daying love you bro love you too

on guys and there you have it ladies and

gentlemen the triumphant return of the

great Jeremy Corbell um I hope you guys

enjoyed that as much as I did and I'd

like to point out that after the first

episode we did with him I thought man

that's the greatest job I ever did as

the host of The Wild Ride podcast and

sure enough I saw some comment about how

I totally blew it and I when wrote like

a big thoughtful response to this person

I thought man you know what here's the

thing he can never make everybody happy

he can't and uh like I said at the

beginning of this episode caught a lot

of flak a lot of negative feedback for

our previous episode the one about Cat

Williams and Aaron

Rogers and again man like we got it

wrong okay we got it wrong got a lot of

negative feedback um yeah we admitted we

got it wrong and you move on I'm happy

to report I lost no sleep over it didn't

even change the tiple

and so I leave that with you this week

remember you're never going to make

everybody happy like try to be the best

you you can admit when you're wrong

improve from it but don't let the

bastards get you

down I love you

guys