New Budget GPU, Looks Like A CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 8700G Review

Summary

The video reviews AMD's new Ryzen 7 8700G desktop CPU with powerful integrated graphics. It benchmarks the 8700G versus previous AMD APUs and CPUs, finding huge performance gains, with the 8700G able to handle 1080p gaming reasonably well. However, when compared to similarly priced combinations like the Core i3-12100F with a Radeon RX 6600, the 8700G is handily beaten, struggling to justify its $330 price tag. Ultimately while an impressive technical achievement, the 8700G does not make sense for most mainstream consumers, especially gamers, who are better served by cheaper discrete GPU solutions.

Takeaways

• 😀 The video reviews AMD's new Ryzen 7 8700G APU with powerful integrated graphics
• 📈 The 8700G has 8 cores, 16 threads and improved integrated RDNA3 graphics vs previous gen
• 🔢 In applications, the 8700G performs similar to the Ryzen 7 7700X, about 5-15% slower
• 🎮 For gaming, the 8700G integrated graphics average 2X faster than prior gen APUs
• 🔥 But a budget Core i3 + RX 6600 combo can be 2X faster than 8700G iGPU for same price
• 😕 So the 8700G, while impressive, doesn't make sense for mainstream gaming builds
• 🤔 The niche use case is ultra compact PCs needing CPU + GPU in one package
• 💡For most, a Ryzen 5 7600 + RX 6600 build gives far better price/performance
• ⚡ The 8700G excels in performance per watt over prior gen APUs
• 👍 But Ryzen 7000 + RDNA 2 GPU is better for high end gaming builds

Q & A

What new product from AMD is being reviewed in the video?

The video is reviewing AMD's new Ryzen 7 8700G desktop processor which has integrated Radeon graphics.

What architecture is the CPU portion of the 8700G based on?

The CPU cores of the 8700G are based on AMD's latest Zen 4 architecture.

How does the graphics performance of the 8700G compare to AMD's previous generation APU?

The 8700G's integrated graphics are 145% faster on average compared to AMD's previous 8-core APU, the 5700G.

How does the 8700G perform in games compared to a lower-end discrete GPU like the Radeon RX 6500 XT?

The 8700G's integrated graphics match or exceed the gaming performance of the Radeon RX 6500 XT in several games when the 6500 XT is limited to PCIe 3.0 speeds.

What CPU + GPU combination is recommended over the 8700G for gaming at a similar price point?

The video recommends a Core i3-12100F + Radeon RX 6600 combo over the 8700G for gaming, as it provides over 150% better performance for a similar price.

How much faster is the Ryzen 7 7700 compared to the 8700G for gaming?

When paired with a high-end GPU, the Ryzen 7 7700 is on average 26% faster than the 8700G for gaming.

What market is the 8700G's powerful integrated graphics aimed at?

AMD is positioning the 8700G at mini PCs and other extremely space-constrained systems where having a fast integrated GPU is useful.

How much cache does the 8700G have compared to the Ryzen 7 7700?

The 8700G has a 16MB L3 cache, half that of the 32MB L3 cache on the Ryzen 7 7700.

What new AI capabilities does the 8700G processor offer?

The 8700G includes AMD's new Radeon AI engine, the world's first dedicated AI processing unit in a desktop processor, though its usefulness is still unclear.

How power efficient is the 8700G under load?

The 8700G system consumed just 148 watts total while gaming, highlighting that it's a very low power combo.

Outlines

00:00

😀 AMD's new 8700G APU benchmarked

Paragraph 1 introduces AMD's new 8700G APU with integrated Radeon graphics. It outlines the specifications including 8 cores, 16 threads, Zen 4 architecture, 12 CU Radeon 780M iGPU. Performance is benchmarked and compared to previous gen APUs and discrete GPUs, showing significant gains but discrete GPU combos are still better for gaming.

05:01

🤔 8700G strong but discrete GPU better value

Paragraph 2 continues benchmarking the 8700G. It shows strengths in compression, decompression and Photoshop but is outclassed by a cheaper Core i3 + discrete GPU combo in Premiere. Gaming tests show strong integrated graphics gains over previous gen but budget discrete GPUs still outperform it.

10:02

🤨 Memory scaling test yields minor gains

Paragraph 3 tests different memory configurations with the 8700G iGPU. DDR5-7200 at 1:2 ratio shows minor 4% gains in Fortnite but results are mixed across titles. Default DDR5-6400 at 1:1 seems optimal balance of performance and compatibility.

15:03

😟 8700G no match for budget discrete GPUs

Paragraph 4 compares 8700G to budget discrete GPUs like RX 6600. While impressive, the iGPU still falls far short of even a lowly RX 6500 XT in most games when paired with a cheaper CPU like Core i3. A $300 CPU + discrete GPU combo crushes the 8700G.

20:05

😒 8700G impressive but makes little sense

Paragraph 5 concludes that while the 8700G APU is technically impressive, it makes little sense for most use cases. It's too expensive for budget general use and significantly outclassed by cheaper CPU + discrete GPU options for gaming. Recommends Ryzen 7700 or 7600 + budget discrete GPU as better alternatives.

Keywords

💡ryzen

Ryzen is the brand name used by AMD for their desktop CPUs. In this video, the presenter reviews the new Ryzen 7 8700G APU. Ryzen CPUs are based on AMD's Zen microarchitecture and compete directly with Intel's Core CPUs in the desktop PC market.

💡APU

APU stands for Accelerated Processing Unit. It is a type of processor from AMD that combines a CPU and GPU into a single chip. APUs have powerful integrated graphics and are meant for low-cost PCs where a discrete GPU is not required. The Ryzen 7 8700G reviewed in the video is an APU with a 12-core RDNA3 integrated GPU.

💡integrated graphics

Integrated graphics refers to a GPU that is built into the CPU die rather than provided as a separate graphics card. APUs like the Ryzen 7 8700G have powerful integrated graphics, but they still cannot match the performance of even a low-end discrete GPU like the Radeon RX 6500 XT compared in the video.

💡discrete GPU

A discrete GPU refers to a separate graphics card used in addition to the CPU. The video compares the Ryzen 7 8700G APU against discrete GPUs like the RX 6600 and finds that a cheaper CPU + discrete GPU combination provides far better gaming performance than the 8700G's integrated graphics.

💡1080p gaming

1080p refers to a display resolution of 1920 x 1080 pixels. Many of the gaming benchmarks are run at 1080p resolution to evaluate real-world gaming performance. Despite its powerful integrated graphics, the Ryzen 7 8700G still struggles to provide playable frame rates at 1080p in demanding games.

💡frame rate

Frame rate refers to how many frames (images) a GPU can render per second. A higher frame rate results in smoother perceived motion in games. The video benchmarks measure average frame rates and 1% low frame rates to evaluate gaming performance. The 8700G's integrated graphics fail to provide high frame rates at 1080p resolution.

💡gaming performance

Gaming performance refers to how well a PC's hardware can run and render games. One of the main focuses of the video is evaluating the Ryzen 7 8700G's gaming performance using its integrated graphics and comparing it to discrete GPUs. The 8700G is found lacking compared to much cheaper CPU + discrete GPU combinations.

💡benchmarks

Benchmarks refer to standardized tests used to measure and compare the performance of computer hardware. The video uses benchmarks like Cinebench, 3DMark Time Spy, and in-game frame rate tests to evaluate and compare the gaming performance of the Ryzen 7 8700G APU against other CPUs and GPUs.

💡value

Value refers to the performance you get per dollar spent when buying computer hardware. One of the main conclusions of the video is that despite its impressive specifications, the Ryzen 7 8700G does not provide good value for gaming compared to cheaper alternatives that offer far better performance.

💡budget

Budget refers to a limited amount of money to spend on PC hardware. The video evaluates the Ryzen 7 8700G as an option for budget gaming PCs. However, it finds that even cheap discrete GPUs paired with lower-end CPUs provide far better value and performance per dollar compared to the 8700G APU.

Highlights

AMD claims the Ryzen 7 8700G has the most powerful integrated graphics in a desktop CPU.

The 8700G packs a 16MB L3 cache and Radeon 780M graphics with 12 compute units.

The 8700G was 21% faster in Cinebench single-core than the 5700G and just 5% slower than the 7700X.

The 8700G's integrated graphics averaged 49fps in Baldur's Gate 3 at 1080p low, making it very playable.

The 8700G averaged 119fps in CS:GO, allowing competitive but not top-tier gameplay.

The 8700G averaged 132fps in Fortnite at 1080p low, good for casual gamers.

Cyberpunk 2077 averaged 41fps on the 8700G, playable but not ideal.

The 8700G shows massive gains over previous APUs like the 5700G, often over 100% faster.

Faster DDR5-7200 memory boosted 8700G iGPU performance by up to 4% in some games.

The 8700G roughly matched the GTX 6500 XT, an extremely weak budget GPU.

The Core i3-12100F + RX 6600 often beat the 8700G's iGPU by over 100% for the same price.

The 8700G makes little sense for gaming compared to a budget CPU + discrete GPU.

The 8700G used 131W under full load, making it a low power combo.

The 8700G is technically impressive but doesn't provide good value for most use cases.

For gaming, a Ryzen 5 + RX 6600 gives much better performance for the price.

Transcripts

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welcome back to hubun boox today we're

checking out amd's new ryzen 7 8700g and

they claim it to have the most powerful

integrated Graphics in a desktop CPU so

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description okay so the new ryzen 8000g

series of processors includes a radon

700m series GPU based on the RD3

architecture using up to 12 computer

units and AMD says these igpus will be

powerful enough to play pretty much any

PC game at

1080p in total there are four rise 8000g

series products that have been announced

so far and while we'll be looking at the

8700g today also have the ryzen 58600 G

and we'll take a look at that model in

the coming days now the 8700g packs

eight cores with 16 threads it is built

using a 4 nanm process and the cores are

based on the zen4 architecture but

because this is a monolithic design that

also has to incorporate a reasonably

large GPU stuff like cash capacity has

been reduced when compared to the

standard ryzen 7000 series processors

for example the 8700g packs a 16 MB L3

cache with 8 8 megab of L2 whereas the

ryzon 77700 is armed with a much larger

32 MB L3 cache though the L2 capacity is

the same at 8

mbes now whereas the 7700 packs an rdna2

GPU with just two cus and a boost clock

of 2.2 GHz the 8700g is armed with the

radon 780m and that's a 12C rdna 3 GPU

that clocks as high as 2.9 GHz so you

can expect a lot more from this igpu

however whereas the 7700 packs 28 Lanes

of PCI 5.0 four of which are reserved

for connected to the chip set the

8700g packs just 20 lanes in total and

they're of the PCI 4.0 variety and this

means there are a maximum of eight PCI

4.0 lanes for the primary PCI slot so

the graphics card whereas the 7700 has

16 pciu 5.0 lanes for the graphics card

then last ly the 8700g includes ryzen AI

the world's first dedicated AI engine on

a desktop processor using amd's xdna

architecture clocked at 1.6 GHz this is

a dedicated AI engine that's separate to

the CPU and GPU cores that we've just

looked at you could call it an npu a

neural Processing Unit how useful you'll

find this feature at this point in time

is hard to say and with gaming being our

primary focus here at Harbor unboxed we

won't be getting into the AI benchmarks

just yet moreover anyone who is actually

interested in AI on a desktop computer

would surely purchase a discrete GPU as

they're much more powerful for AI

workloads now for testing we've used the

Asus Rog stricks b650 a gaming Wi-Fi

motherboard with beta bios

2263 then for the memory we've gone with

a 32 GB ddr5 6400 cell 32 kit from G

school it's their Trident Z5 Neo memory

and the fclk has been manually set to

2,400 MHz as there is an issue with the

latest beta boss not setting this

parameter correctly automatically but

this will be fixed for the public

release okay let's see what the 8700g

can

do we'll start with some basic

application benchmarks and first up is

cinebench with the single core test here

the 8700g scores 111 points making it

21% faster than the 5700 G and just 5%

slower than the 7700 though it was 15%

slower than the 14700

k then when measuring multi-core

performance we find the 8700g is

comparable to that of the 7700 which

makes sense they're both 8 core 16

thread zen4 processors and stuff like

cache capacity and memory performance

only plays a very small role for this

test then when compared to the older

5700 G it's 37% faster and then a

massive 44% increase over the cor I 3

1200f which will prove to be a more

relevant comparison as we work our way

through the gaming

benchmarks next we have szip file

manager compression and here the 8700g

is 40% faster than the 5700 G and just

13% slower than the ryzen

77700 then for decompression it's just

8% FAS than the 5700 G and 12% slower

than the

7700 when it comes to photoshop

performance we're looking at a 34%

improvement over the 5700 G so a pretty

big uplift there meanwhile the 8700g was

just 6% slower than the

7700 now it's worth noting that the

1200f doesn't have an igpu so for these

application benchmarks it's been paired

with the radon RX 6600 and fun fact the

core I3 plus radon GPU combo costs

slightly less than that of the

8700g and that's an issue for amd's new

Apu and premere as this application uses

GPU acceleration and as a result the

more affordable core I3 plus RX 6600

combo is 86%

faster okay time to look at gaming

performance and of course we're starting

with the integrated Graphics results

because this is potentially what makes

the 8700g special for all of this

testing we're focusing on 1080p

lowquality gaming because well this is

integrated Graphics after all and first

up is Boulders Gate 3 and the 8700g was

good for 49 FPS on average which is

impressive compared to the likes of the

5700 G and then standard processors such

as the core I74 700k and ryzen

77700 when compared to amd's previous 8

core Apu the 8700g is 145% faster that's

obviously a very big performance uplift

but more than that it's the difference

between being unplayable and

playable next up we have Counter Strike

2 which is possible to play using an

igpu the 5700 G for example is good for

61 FPS on average though the 1% lows

aren't great the 8700g though is 95%

faster when comparing the average frame

rate and with 119 FPS on average the

game is very playable maybe not

competitively but still it is playable

and it's a similar story with fortnite

when compared to the 5700 G the 8700g is

offering 78% more performance averaging

an impressive 132 FPS the game ran

surprisingly well again this isn't

really good enough for comp itive Gamers

but for those playing more casually it

will work well as you'd expect more

demanding games such as cyberpunk 2077

Phantom Liberty they're a bit of a

stretch but with 41 FPS on average and

1% lows of 30 FPS the game is certainly

playable and that's a lot more than you

can say for parts like the 5700 G F1

2023 ran really well with the 8700g

pumping out 125 FPS on average that's a

massive improvement from the 5700 G in

fact it's a and 23% uplift it's also a

world of difference when compared to the

14700 K and

7700 we're seeing the same thing in

Spider-Man remastered the 8700g is able

to deliver a smooth playable experience

with 68 FPS on average making it more

than twice as fast as the 5700 G which

rendered just 32 FPS on average like

cyberpunk 277 Ratchet and Clank rifter

part is a bit much even for the 8700g

well at least for 60 FPS gaming for

those of you happy with 30 FPS it works

and I guess that's more than you can say

for the 5700 G and really anything

slower which is basically everything

else finally we have Call of Duty Modern

Warfare 3 and here the 8700g can pump

out over 60 FPS averaging 74 FPS and

that's an incredible improvement over

the 5700 G rendering three times more

frames and more crucially allowing

Gamers to actually play the game using

an

igpu now before we move on to some

discret GPU benchmarks let's take a

quick look at memory scaling performance

for testing we use DDR 56400 memory at a

1:1 ratio using a 2400 MHz fclk but this

isn't necessarily the most optimal

configuration though AMD does claim that

all CPUs will be capable of achieving

the specification that said AMD also

notes that most CPUs will achieve ddr5

7200 using a 1 to2 ratio and this can be

beneficial that's because memory

bandwidth is crucial when it comes to

igpu Performance so the rules here a bit

different to that of the ryzen 7000

series where you typically prioritize

latency also because the 8000 series

apus use a monolithic die they will

default to a higher clocked fclk this is

because we're moving away from the

chiplet approach there's no need for a

GMI or Global memory interconnect so

whereas the 7,000 series will try and

default to 2 MHz the 8000 series apus

will try and default to 2400 MHz so with

all of that in mind we're going to run a

few different memory configurations

including a 1 to2 configuration using

DDR

57200 starting with fortnite we find

when using DDR 57200 memory that boosts

performance by a further 4% not exactly

Earth shattering but it is extra

performance it's also worth noting that

the official memory spec for the 8700 G

is actually DDR 55200

and using 5200 spec memory saw

performance decline by

15% moving on to F1 2023 we find this

title is less memory sensitive only

gaining an additional 2% performance

when using DDR

57200 or losing 8% with DDR

55200 and then we have Spider-Man

remaster which shows us that DDR 57200

isn't always going to be faster as in

this example Performance did decline

dropping a frame when compared to the

6400 configuration ER ation we also saw

a rather large 22% reduction of

performance when using the official 5200

memory spec Okay so we've just seen how

the 8700g and its integrated graphics

compared to other processors with igpus

but how does it compare to a really bad

discreete graphics card like the

steaming pile that is the 6500 XT well

we're about to find out and keep in mind

the 6500 XT currently costs $140 us the

8700g is comparable to the 65 500 XT

using PCI 3.0 with something like the

5700 G in Boulders Gate 3 it's quite

incredible just how poorly the 6500 XT

performs with the 5700 G in this title

using the lowquality preset at 1080p but

if you pair the 6500 XT with a PCI 4.0

enabled system it is around 45% faster

in fact we see that when pairing it with

the

8700g that said it's around 70% faster

when pair with the ryzen 7 7700 simply

because that is a faster processor so

that's less than ideal for the

8700g The Counter Strike 2 results are

also quite brutal as here the 5700 G

armed with the 6500 XT is more than

twice as fast as the 8700 G's integrated

graphics and that's bad because the 5700

G plus the 6500 XT costs less than just

the 8700g and we'll talk more about that

a bit later on testing in fortnite shows

the 6500 XT to be at least 58% faster

than the 8700g and up to 74% faster when

paired with something like the ryzen

77700 or core i

74700 k and remember the 6500 XT is a

really really bad graphics card I can't

stress that enough it is

awful the cyberp punk 2077 Phantom

liberity results are quite shocking as

they highlight just how bad the 6500 XT

is if I haven't already done that myself

using PCI Express 3.0 with the 5700 G

we're looking at 33 FPS on average

making the discret GPU slower than the

IG GPU of the

8700g then if we enable PCI 4.0 the 6500

XT is able to Edge out the 8700 G's igpu

so weak performance all around really

we're seeing a similar thing in F1 2023

the IG GPU of the 8700g is able to beat

the 6 500 XT when you limit the rad on

GPU to PCI 3.0 with something like a

5700 G but when paired with the core I3

at 1200f it's aere 8% faster though we

are a bit CPU limited here as the ryzen

77700 is showing up to a 34%

increase the Spider-Man remaster results

are interesting again we see that PCI

Express 3.0 cripples the 6500 XT

limiting it to just 46 FPS on average

when paired with the 57 00g then

interestingly the 8700g delivered the

same performance using either its igpu

or the 6500 XT in fact performance was

slightly better with the igpu in in fact

it wasn't until we paired the 6500 XT

with a highend desktop CPU that it was

able to pull ahead of the 8700s

igpu Ratchet and Clank Rift apart also

saw the 6500 XT fall in a heap when

using PCI 3.0 rendering just 30 FPS

average with the 5700 G even when using

PCI 4.0 it was only slightly faster than

the 8700 G's

igpu finally for the last of the 6500 XT

results I promise this is all the 6500

XT testing we're going to put looking at

we have Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3

and here the 8700g is able to match the

6500 XT when paired with most processors

the 14700 K results don't really make

sense here as it shouldn't be that much

faster than the ryzen

77700 so I suspect this is one of those

resizable bar issues that we

occasionally come across but that would

require further investigation to confirm

and really it's not important for this

content despite being quite interesting

okay enough messing around now it's time

to see what you can do for around $330

us so the price of an

8700g for example you could buy

something like a core I 312 100f they're

about $100 and then pair that with a

$200 radon rx6 600 and doing so will

that provide you with a better gaming

experience well let's go find out for

testing I've included a few GPU

configurations one of which features the

7900 XTX to see just how fast these CPUs

really are as you can see when maxed out

the 8700g is 177% faster than the 1200f

or 35% faster when comparing 1% lows so

technically it is the better gaming CPU

but really no shocker there it should be

it costs three times more but the

problem for the 8700g and the reason why

it ultimately makes no sense for gaming

is this the core I3 1200f paired with a

radon RX 6600 a combo that's

127% faster in Boulders Gate 3 and this

is certainly a best case scenario for

the Apu if we were to turn up the

quality settings the RX 6600 would still

render over 60 FPS while the 8700g would

essentially be choked to death

next up we have Counter Strike 2 and

using the 7900 XTX we see the 8700g is

30% more powerful than the core I3 in

this title but if we compare $300

combinations we see the core I3 12100 f/

RX 6600 combo is 113% faster and fast

enough for competitive

gameplay we're looking at much the same

in fortnite again the 8700g is 30%

faster than the core I3 when paired with

the 7900 XTX but if we compare its igpu

performance to the RX 6600 combo we find

the core I3 is an eye watering 182%

faster rendering 372 FPS compared to 132

FPS cyberpunk 2077 Phantom Liberty is a

more GPU limited title when compared to

say fortnite and Counter Strike even

when using the lowquality preset and as

a result the 8700g was 19% faster than

the core I3 when pairing both processors

with the 7900 XTX but if we compare the

$300 combos so the core I3 with the

radon GPU it's offering 124% more

performance rendering 92 FPS on average

oppos just 41 FPS the core I3 1200f

performs very well in F1 2023 allowing

for 333 fps to be rendered when using

the 7900 XTX making the 8700g a mere 7%

faster then once again we find the core

I3 plus RX 6600 Slaughters the 8700g and

its igpu providing an additional

154% performance with r tracing disabled

Spider-Man remastered it's not a very

CPU nting game and as a result the core

I3 1200f is able to match the 8700g when

paired with a highend GPU such as the

7900 XTX then when compared to the core

I3 with the RX 6600 we find that it's

113% faster than the 8700g and it's igpu

and the core I3 combo actually costs a

bit less Ratchet and Clank Rift part

also isn't a very CPU demanding game so

the core I3 is able to match the 8700g

when armed with a highend GPU then once

again we find that for those of you who

have around $300 to spend on your CPU

and GPU combo the 8700g simply doesn't

make sense as the core I3 RX 6600 combo

is 141% faster and with 94 FPS on

average enables a significantly more

enjoyable gaming

experience finally we have the cool of

Duty Modern Warfare 3 results and in

this example the 8700g is 56% faster

than the 1200f when paired with the 7900

XTX but if we compare the $300 budget

combos the core I3 still wins delivering

more than twice as much performance with

154 FPS on average so in short if you're

spending $330 on your CPU for gaming

3700g it's just not a good option the

ryzen 77700 was on average 26% faster

than our testing when using the 7900 XTX

admittedly we are using lowquality

settings for continuity across a range

of the tests done for this video but

even with ultra settings using stuff

like Raad tracing the larger L3 cash

buffer of the 7700 will see it deliver

better gaming

performance finally here's a quick look

at power consumption at idle the 8700g

system consumed 41 Watts then under a

single core load total system draw hit

79 watts and for an all core workload it

went as high as 131 Watts as for gaming

in Spider-Man we saw a total system load

of 148 wats so needless to say this is a

very low powerered combo so there you

have it amd's new ryzen7 8700g and I've

got to admit I'm still not entirely sure

who the world's most

powerful integrated Graphics desktop

processor thingers for or at least who

this makes sense for it's not exactly

cheap at $330 us and at that price it's

not the best value combination of CPU

and GPU Hardware I mean sure it is in a

single package what the 8700g delivers

as an all-in-one solution is certainly

impressive but unless for some reason

you require your desktop CPU and GPU

integrated into a single solution it

just doesn't make sense for Ultra Mini

PCS this processor will certainly enable

Next Level performance but beyond that

extremely Niche use case I don't really

get it this certainly isn't a mainstream

part simply because there are better

alternatives for example if you're after

strong CPU performance for gaming the

7800 X 3D will be much faster for a

small $70 premium or as we saw when

using the 17900 xdx the ryzen 77700 is

significantly faster for the same price

so what sort of us case does the 8700g

make sense for if it's just general

computing then the 8700g is overkill in

my opinion and if it's gaming well as

we've just discovered there are

significantly better Hardware

combinations for the same price or even

less such as the core I

3200f and radon RX 6600 which regularly

delivered well over twice as much gaming

performance the core 3200f combo was

better for video production work as well

given how heavily GPU accelerated those

workloads are now so while the 8700g is

certainly a technically impressive

product at $330 us it's not going to

make sense for the vast majority of

consumers and of course our focus is on

gaming and I can confidently say without

a shadow of a doubt that the 8700g is

not a good investment for gaming but for

those of you who want to jump on the am5

platform just get yourself a ryzen 57600

for $230 and pair that with a radon RX

6600 or something better

for a starting price of $430 us your

experience there is going to be world's

better it's a 30% premium for what will

typically be over 150% greater

performance and there's not much more to

say really the idea of a gaming Apu for

Budget users it always sounds great but

in practice they're just never fast

enough and cheaper discret combos always

deliver significantly better performance

and I really don't expect this will

change anytime soon and that is going to

do it for this one if you like the video

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8600 G the ryzen 5 model and see how

that goes and yeah see what other models

we can get our hands on but yeah I think

as you go down the uh stack the igpu

becomes less powerful so although they

become cheaper they're not as good as

what we see here anyway as I said we'll

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