Alkaline Water Ionizers vs. Hydrogen Water Machines: How They Work - Ep. 66

Summary

This video script explores the debate between hydrogen water and alkaline water, explaining the science behind electrolysis and the differences between alkaline water ionizers and hydrogen water generators. It breaks down the process of electrolysis, discusses the pros and cons of each system, and highlights the benefits and limitations of each in producing therapeutic levels of hydrogen-rich water.

Takeaways

• 💧 Hydrogen water and alkaline water are often compared among enthusiasts, with key differences in the machines that produce them.
• ⚡ Electrolysis is a crucial process in both hydrogen and alkaline water systems, involving the decomposition of water into hydrogen and oxygen gases.
• 🧪 In electrolysis, a negative electrode (cathode) and a positive electrode (anode) are used, where hydrogen gas is produced at the cathode and oxygen gas at the anode.
• 🌊 Alkaline water ionizers work by creating a higher pH water through the production of hydrogen gas and hydroxide ions.
• 🔋 Hydrogen water generators use a proton exchange membrane (PEM) that allows for the production of hydrogen gas without altering the water's pH.
• 💧 PEM technology in hydrogen water generators is not dependent on the water's conductivity, allowing for more consistent hydrogen concentrations.
• 👍 Alkaline water ionizers are well-established, capable of producing large volumes of hydrogen water quickly and can also produce disinfectant water.
• 👎 However, ionizers can be inconsistent and unreliable in dissolved hydrogen levels, depending heavily on source water conductivity.
• 👍 Hydrogen water generators generally produce higher and more consistent hydrogen concentrations and require less water to achieve therapeutic levels.
• 👎 Hydrogen water generators typically have a lower dispensing flow rate and may have limited applications for cleaning and descaling.

Q & A

What is the main topic of the video script?

The main topic of the video script is the comparison between hydrogen water and alkaline water, focusing on the differences in the machines that produce these types of water and the pros and cons of each.

What is electrolysis and how is it related to water purification?

Electrolysis is the decomposition of water into its natural elements by running an electrical current through it. It is related to water purification as it is the process used by most alkaline or hydrogen water systems to produce hydrogen-rich or alkaline water.

What are the two main electrodes involved in water electrolysis?

The two main electrodes involved in water electrolysis are the cathode (negative electrode) and the anode (positive electrode).

What is the acronym 'OIL RIG' used to remember in the context of electrolysis?

The acronym 'OIL RIG' stands for 'Oxidation Is Loss' meaning loss of electrons, and 'Reduction Is Gain' meaning gaining of electrons, which helps to remember the process of electrolysis.

What is produced at the cathode during electrolysis?

Hydrogen gas is produced at the cathode during electrolysis through a process called reduction, where electrons are supplied to the water.

What is the alkaline component of water produced during electrolysis?

The alkaline component of water produced during electrolysis is hydroxide ions (OH-), which results from water molecules losing a proton when electrons are supplied by the cathode.

What is the role of the ionic membrane in an alkaline water ionizer?

The ionic membrane in an alkaline water ionizer keeps the water stream separate but allows electrons to flow through, facilitating the production of alkaline water at the cathode side and acidic water at the anode side.

What are the pros and cons of alkaline water ionizers mentioned in the script?

Pros include well-established technology, ability to produce large volumes of H2 water quickly, and the production of disinfectant water with hypochlorous acid. Cons include inconsistency and unreliability in dissolved hydrogen levels, dependency on source water conductivity, and potential issues with scaling or pH levels above safety regulations.

What is a PEM SPE water cell and how does it differ from conventional water electrolysis?

A PEM SPE water cell is a special type of cell used in hydrogen water generators, where PEM stands for Proton Exchange Membrane and SPE stands for Solid Polymer Electrolyte. It differs from conventional water electrolysis by not relying on the conductivity of the water and allowing for the production of hydrogen-rich water without altering the pH.

What are the advantages of hydrogen water generators over alkaline water ionizers?

Hydrogen water generators offer advantages such as not requiring as much water to ingest for a therapeutic level of H2, not relying on source water conductivity, using dissolver technology for higher dissolved hydrogen concentrations, and being simpler to use with less maintenance.

What are the disadvantages of hydrogen water generators mentioned in the script?

The disadvantages of hydrogen water generators include a lower dispensing flow rate, which means it takes longer to fill a glass of water, and limited applications for cleaning and descaling, although less maintenance is required due to fewer reasons for cleaning or descaling.

Outlines

00:00

🧪 Understanding Hydrogen and Alkaline Water Production

This paragraph introduces the topic of the debate surrounding hydrogen water versus alkaline water, highlighting the differences in the machines that produce them. The script promises to break down the workings of these systems and their pros and cons, allowing viewers to make informed decisions. It acknowledges the support of Patreon patrons, emphasizing the value of their contribution to the production of free educational content. The script also introduces the concept of electrolysis, explaining it as the decomposition of water into its natural elements through the application of an electrical current, and distinguishing between the cathode and anode in the process. It uses the acronym 'OIL RIG' to help remember the process of oxidation and reduction. The paragraph concludes with a visual explanation of water electrolysis in alkaline water ionizers, describing the formation of hydrogen gas at the cathode and oxygen gas at the anode, and the resulting pH changes due to the production of hydroxide ions.

05:01

💧 Pros and Cons of Alkaline Water Ionizers

This paragraph delves into the advantages and disadvantages of alkaline water ionizers, which have been established for a long time and can produce large volumes of hydrogen-rich water quickly. The pros include the ability to produce disinfectant water with hypochlorous acid and the technology's reliability. However, the cons are significant: the machines are inconsistent and unreliable in terms of dissolved hydrogen levels, highly dependent on the source water's conductivity. They also do not incorporate any technology to enhance hydrogen dissolution and can produce water with a pH above safety regulations. The paragraph also mentions the need for fine-tuning the flow rate to maximize dissolved hydrogen levels and the potential for scaling due to the high pH of the water.

10:03

🌐 Introduction to Hydrogen Water Generators

The script introduces a newer type of water machine known as hydrogen water generators or hydrogen infusion machines, which use a special PEM (Proton Exchange Membrane) SPE (Solid Polymer Electrolyte) water cell to produce hydrogen water. The technology allows for the production of hydrogen water regardless of the source water conditions and does not alter the pH of the water. These devices typically produce hydrogen water with a consistent therapeutic concentration of dissolved hydrogen. The paragraph explains the process of electrolysis in a hydrogen water generator using a PEM, contrasting it with conventional water electrolysis and detailing the storage and transfer of hydrogen cations across the membrane. The script also describes how hydrogen gas is either transferred to a dissolver chamber or immediately dissolved into the water, depending on the type of generator.

🚰 Evaluating Hydrogen Water Generators' Benefits and Limitations

This paragraph outlines the benefits and limitations of hydrogen water generators. The pros include the requirement of less water to ingest for a therapeutic level of H2, independence from source water conductivity, the use of dissolver technology for higher dissolved hydrogen concentrations, and the simplicity and low maintenance of the systems. The cons include a lower dispensing flow rate, which means it takes longer to fill a glass, and limited applications for cleaning and descaling, although the need for maintenance is reduced. The script concludes by inviting viewers to consider which type of water generator might be better for drinking hydrogen water and encourages engagement through comments, subscription, and notifications.

Keywords

💡Hydrogen Water

Hydrogen water is water that has been infused with molecular hydrogen (H2). It is considered to have potential health benefits due to hydrogen's antioxidant properties. In the video, the script discusses the comparison between hydrogen water and alkaline water, highlighting the process of electrolysis as a method to produce hydrogen-rich water.

💡Alkaline Water

Alkaline water is characterized by a higher pH level, which is typically achieved through the process of electrolysis. It is often marketed for its potential health benefits, such as neutralizing acidity in the body. The script explains how alkaline water is produced through electrolysis, resulting in a byproduct of hydrogen gas.

💡Electrolysis

Electrolysis is a chemical process that involves the decomposition of water into its natural elements, hydrogen and oxygen, by running an electrical current through it. The script delves into the specifics of how electrolysis is used in water ionizers and hydrogen water generators to produce different types of water with varying health claims.

💡Cathode

The cathode is the negative electrode in an electrolytic cell where reduction occurs—electrons are supplied, and hydrogen gas is produced. In the context of the video, the cathode is part of the process where hydrogen atoms form, contributing to the creation of hydrogen water.

💡Anode

The anode is the positive electrode in an electrolytic cell where oxidation occurs—electrons are removed, leading to the production of oxygen gas. The script describes the role of the anode in the electrolysis process, which results in the formation of hydrogen cations and oxygen gas.

💡Oxidation

Oxidation is a chemical process where electrons are lost. In the script, oxidation is mentioned in the context of the anode, where hydroxide ions lose electrons, leading to the formation of oxygen atoms and hydrogen cations.

💡Reduction

Reduction is the chemical process where electrons are gained. The script explains that at the cathode, water molecules gain electrons, leading to the formation of hydrogen atoms, which are part of the process to produce hydrogen gas.

💡pH

pH is a measure of how acidic or basic a substance is, with a scale ranging from 0 to 14. The video discusses the higher pH of alkaline water as a byproduct of hydrogen production and the impact of pH on the health claims associated with different types of water.

💡Hydrogen Water Generator

A hydrogen water generator is a device that produces water with a high concentration of dissolved hydrogen gas. The script describes how these generators use a special PEM (Proton Exchange Membrane) technology to produce hydrogen water with consistent levels of dissolved hydrogen, regardless of the source water's conditions.

💡PEM (Proton Exchange Membrane)

PEM stands for Proton Exchange Membrane, a type of membrane used in hydrogen water generators that allows for the transfer of hydrogen ions across the membrane. The script explains that PEM technology enables hydrogen water generators to produce hydrogen-rich water without altering the pH of the water.

💡Dissolved Hydrogen

Dissolved hydrogen refers to the amount of molecular hydrogen (H2) that is dissolved in water. The script discusses the importance of dissolved hydrogen levels for potential therapeutic benefits and how different water machines can affect these levels.

Highlights

The video discusses the differences between hydrogen water and alkaline water, and the machines that produce them.

Electrolysis is the decomposition of water into its natural elements, a process used in most alkaline or hydrogen systems.

In electrolysis, a cathode produces hydrogen gas through reduction, while an anode produces oxygen gas through oxidation.

The acronym 'OIL RIG' helps remember the process: Oxidation is Loss, Reduction is Gain of electrons.

Alkaline water ionizers produce drinking water from the cathode side, which is rich in hydroxide ions, resulting in a higher pH.

Hydrogen atoms produced are too reactive to exist alone, forming molecular hydrogen (H2).

Conventional water ionizers were designed to produce alkaline water, not hydrogen-rich water.

Pros of water ionizers include well-established technology and the ability to produce large volumes of H2 water quickly.

Cons include inconsistency in dissolved hydrogen levels and dependency on source water conductivity.

Hydrogen water generators or infusion machines use a special PEM (Proton Exchange Membrane) for producing hydrogen water.

PEM membranes allow for hydrogen cations and electrons to transfer across, producing hydrogen gas regardless of water conditions.

Hydrogen water generators produce more consistent therapeutic concentrations of dissolved H2.

These devices do not alter the pH of the water and can produce higher concentrations of dissolved H2.

Pros of hydrogen water generators include requiring less water for a therapeutic dose of H2 and not relying on source water conductivity.

Cons include a lower dispensing flow rate and limited applications for cleaning and descaling.

The video aims to provide clarity on the workings of these systems to help viewers discern truth from false claims about hydrogen water.

The presenter invites viewers to share their opinion on which type of water generator is better for drinking hydrogen water.

Transcripts

is hydrogen water better than alkaline

water this seems to be a popular

discussion Point amongst water

enthusiasts what most people don't know

is the differences between the machines

that produce these Waters in this video

I'm going to break down how these

systems work and the pros and cons of

both of them so that you can make the

decision for yourself first a big thank

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as well to continue to share the good

news about hydrogen to the masses so

let's get down to business how many of

you know what electrolysis is big word

right but that is how most alkaline or

hydrogen systems work and so that is one

of the main things we will discuss

electrolysis is a decomposition of water

into its natural elements this is done

by running an electrical current through

water now with conventional water

electrolysis you must have ions present

but we'll get into that later in

electrolysis there is always a negative

electrode called the cathode and a

positive Electro called the anode

hydrogen gas is produced at the cathode

through the process called reduction

this is where electrons are supplied and

oxygen gas is produced at the anode

through oxidation which is where

electrons are removed hydrogen gas and

oxygen gas are produced at the same time

a helpful acronym to remember how the

process works is oil rig which stands

for oxidation is loss meaning loss of

electrons and reduction is gain meaning

gaining of electrons now that all might

sound confusing but what better way to

help you understand it than with

pictures first I'm going to show you how

water electrolysis Works in an alkaline

water ionizing over here is the cathode

or the negative electrode and on this

side is the anode or the positive

electrode in the middle is an ionic

membrane to keep the water stream

separate but allows electrons to flow

through first we're going to break down

the cathode side which is referred to as

the catholite this is where the drinking

water comes from so first we see the

water molecules come in which are of

course H2O next we see electrons coming

off the cathode into the water those

electrons then attract protons off of

the water molecules forming hydrogen

atoms with that proton missing those

water molecules are now hydroxide or oh

minus this is the alkaline component of

water and it is for this reason that

this water has a higher pH the higher pH

of the water is truly a byproduct of

producing Hydro engine gas through

electrolysis and because hydrogen is a

diatomic element hydrogen atoms are too

reactive to Exist by themselves so they

find a friend in each other and form

molecular hydrogen or H2 by the way I

broke this process down into stages so

you can really see what's happening in

electrolysis but in reality this process

is happening instantaneously to

trillions of molecules so if you're

familiar with alkaline water ionizers

this is what's happened to the water

that's coming out of the top hose now

let's look at the anode or the positive

Electro this water is often dispensed

through a hose from the bottom of the

machine so on the anode we start with

hydroxide hydroxide the outcome

component of water is always present in

water just like the acidic component

which is hydrogen cations now when the

hydroxide is oxidized at the end node it

loses electrons which leaves oxygen

atoms and hydrogen cations hydrogen

cations are simply protons and the first

form of hydrogen there are technically

four forms of hydrogen not including its

Isotopes which we discuss in this

classic video here oxygen is also a

diatomic element so the oxygen atoms

bond together to form oxygen gas or O2

and the remaining protons are the reason

this water has an acidic pH all

conventional water ionizers produce a

form of hydrogen Rich water called

electrolyzed reduced water ionizes were

around for years before hydrogen gas was

discovered to be the sole reason this

water has therapeutic benefits so this

technology was mainly created to produce

alkaline water not hydrogen Rich water

so with that being said let's discuss

some of the pros and cons of these types

of water machines starting with the pros

the technology has been around for a

long time so it's well established it

can generally produce large volumes of

H2 water quickly and upwards of two to

four liters per minute and they can

produce a disinfectant water which has

levels of hypochlorous acid a very

strong killing agent although it's not

optimally designed for producing this

killing agent and not all ionizers have

this function I actually explained this

in detail with this video talking about

what's really going on with the special

Waters in these machines now to the cons

water ionizers are inconsistent and

unreliable in terms of dissolved

hydrogen levels they are highly

dependent on Source water conductivity

or minerals for H2 production they

typically exhibit lower dissolved issue

concentrations at least while

maintaining a pH that's safe to drink

because the hydrogen concentrations can

be so low you may have to drink a

significant amount of water to get a

therapeutic dose of hydrogen they do not

incorporate any type of dissolver

technology to help hydrogen dissolve

into the water better the higher

electrical current produces larger issue

bubbles which will not dissolve into the

water as well higher pH of the water

promotes scaling or calcium

precipitation you may need to fine-tune

the flow rate to maximize to dissolve H2

levels they can produce H2 water with a

pH above safety regulations we went into

even more depth with these two videos

the truth about ionized water and the

problem with water ionizers definitely

go check those videos out so now let's

look at the newest iteration of water

machines on the market these can be

referred to as hydrogen water generators

or hydrogen infusion machines they use a

special p e m spe water cell for

producing hydrogen water if you have

heard of these types of generators you

may have heard of these letters being

spoken of but maybe didn't know what

they meant pem stands for proton

exchange membrane which refers to the

purpose of the membrane they exchange

protons and spe stands for solid polymer

electrolyte which refers to what it is

which is basically a polymer material

with embedded electrolytes and allows

hydrogen cations and electrons to

transfer across the membrane the

membrane itself is conductive and does

not rely on the conductivity of the

water this allows these devices to

produce H2 regardless of the source

water conditions and they produce issue

water without altering the pH these

devices generally produce an issue

concentration of 0.5 milligrams per

liter to more than 5 milligrams per

liter of H2 it typically produce issue

water a therapeutic concentrations more

consistently so let's look at how

electrolysis works with the hydrogen

water generator that uses a pen first

let's remember what our alkaline water

ionizer electrolysis looks like so we

can compare in a hydrogen water

generator we're going to swap out that

ionic membrane for our new pem membrane

and the cathode and anode are going to

be moved closer and sandwiched that

membrane so now the catholite is over

here and the analyte is over here

instead of in between this time let's

start with the anode just like in

conventional water electrolysis the no

starts with hydroxide hydroxide is

oxidized which remember means it loses

electrons this leaves us with oxygen

atoms and hydrogen cations the oxygen

atoms bond together to form oxygen gas

now this is where hydrogen infusion

machines or PM electrolysis differs from

conventional water electrolysis due to

the characteristics of pem membranes

they can store and transfer these

hydrogen cations across the membrane

towards the capital it is important to

know that the PN does not transfer for

every hydrogen cation across the

membrane the analyte still becomes

acidic and acts as a reservoir of

hydrogen cations that way the system can

continually produce hydrogen gas now

onto the cathode just like conventional

water electrolysis the cathode supplies

electrons however like we just explained

the anode supplies to hydrogen cations

or protons instead of the drinking water

the electrons from the cathode bind with

hydrogen cations from the pem and form

hydrogen atoms and then hydrogen atoms

bond together to form molecular hydrogen

or hydrogen gas depending on the type of

hydrogen water generator the hydrogen

gas is either transferred to a dissolver

chamber to be dissolved into the water

like some bigger hydrogen Fusion

machines or immediately dissolve into

the water like some hydrogen water

bottles or pitchers and with these

systems there will always be a port to

off gas or expel the oxygen gas now

let's get into the pros and cons for the

pros using hydrogen water generators

generally requires less water to ingest

a therapeutic level of H2 now I'm mainly

talking about bigger machines there are

many portable hydrogen water bottles or

pictures that use pen that still require

you to drink a lot of water these

systems do not rely on Source water

conductivity to produce H2 they will

typically use some type of dissolver

Technology this is a pro because

hydrogen gas is not very water soluble

this means the hydrogen gas does not

want to dissolve into the water and

using some method to encourage it to

dissolve into the water will achieve

higher dissolved hydrogen concentrations

in the water they provide more

consistent levels of dissolved H2 they

have the ability to produce higher

concentrations of dissolved H2 these

systems are generally easier and simpler

to use there is little to no influence

on the pH or the drinking water so they

are less likely to scale they eliminate

majority of the limitations of

and there's far less maintenance now the

cons are they generally have a lower

dispensing flow rate so it takes longer

to fill a glass of water and there are

usually limited applications for

cleaning and descaling these systems

however like I said there is less

maintenance so there are fewer reasons

for cleaning or descaling the system so

I hope now you have a greater

understanding of how these two systems

actually work pretty simple once you

break it down and not only does it help

to know what's happening during

electrolysis it also helps us to know

what is not happening during this

process which can help us discern what

is true or not and refute false claims

so that leads me to my question of the

day which type of water generator seems

to be better for drinking hydrogen water

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