Is This The Best Argument For God's Existence?

Let's Talk Religion
20 Apr 202414:17

Summary

TLDRThe video script delves into the philosophical musings of Ibn Sina, known as Avicenna in the West, exploring his influential argument for the existence of God, the 'Proof of the Truthful'. It examines the concepts of contingency and necessity, positing that all contingent beings depend on a necessary existence, which by definition must exist without cause. This argument not only supports the Islamic principle of monotheism but also aligns with the theological tenets of the Islamic religion, offering a profound perspective on the nature of God.

Takeaways

  • 📚 Ibn Sina, also known as Avicenna, is recognized as a highly influential polymath and philosopher in history.
  • 🌏 His works significantly impacted both the Islamic intellectual tradition and European thought, including the Scholastic tradition.
  • 💡 Avicenna is famous for providing a celebrated argument for the existence of God, known as the 'Proof of the Truthful', based on the concepts of contingency and necessity.
  • 🔍 In his argument, God is defined as the necessary existence, which is distinct from contingent or possible existences that depend on something else for their existence.
  • 🤔 Avicenna explores whether all things are contingent or if there is a necessary existent that exists by itself without depending on anything else.
  • ⛓ He argues that if everything is contingent, there must be an infinite regress of causes, which logically leads to the conclusion of a necessary existence.
  • 🌐 This necessary existence is beyond time and space, indivisible, and immaterial, aligning with the Islamic conception of God as being one and unique.
  • 🚫 Avicenna refutes the possibility of multiple necessary beings, arguing that if two such beings existed, they would be composed of parts, making them contingent and caused.
  • 🔑 The argument concludes that there must be one and only one necessary existent, which is God, possessing the characteristics outlined in the argument.
  • 📘 Avicenna's proof has been influential throughout history and is still studied and discussed in the context of philosophical theology.
  • 🎥 For a more detailed explanation, the script suggests checking out Dr. Khani's channel 'Thinking Islam' for a video with visuals and graphs on this argument.

Q & A

  • Who is the Persian Muslim philosopher referred to as 'Aisa is' in the West?

    -The philosopher referred to as 'Aisa is' in the West is Ibn Sina, also known as Avicenna, who was a polymath and philosopher with significant influence on both Islamic and European intellectual traditions.

  • What is the Proof of the Truthful?

    -The Proof of the Truthful is an argument for the existence of God based on the concepts of contingency and necessity, which is attributed to Ibn Sina and is considered one of the most celebrated arguments in the history of philosophy.

  • What does it mean for something to be 'contingent' in the context of Ibn Sina's argument?

    -In the context of Ibn Sina's argument, 'contingent' refers to something that could exist but might as well not exist; it is dependent on or conditioned by something else for its existence, which is its cause.

  • What is the difference between a contingent existence and an impossible existence according to Ibn Sina?

    -A contingent existence is something that could exist but might not, depending on its cause. An impossible existence, such as a round square, cannot exist because it is a logical contradiction, and thus does not enter into the argument for God's existence.

  • What is the logical conclusion of the argument that considers the totality of all contingent things as a whole?

    -The logical conclusion is that the whole set of all contingent things cannot be necessary because it is dependent on its parts, which are contingent. This leads to the argument that there must be a cause external to all contingent things, which is a necessary existence.

  • How does Ibn Sina argue against the idea that the chain of contingent existence could go on infinitely?

    -Ibn Sina argues that if the chain of contingent existence were to go on infinitely, each unit in the chain would still be contingent and the whole chain would depend on these units, making it necessary through another cause, which contradicts the idea of an infinite chain.

  • What are the four options Ibn Sina presents regarding the totality of all contingent things?

    -The four options are: 1) The totality does not require a cause at all and is therefore necessary. 2) The totality is caused by all its units. 3) One unit in the chain is the cause of the totality. 4) The totality requires a cause external to all its units, which is the remaining truth and leads to the conclusion of a necessary existence.

  • What characteristics must the necessary existence have according to Ibn Sina's argument?

    -The necessary existence must be beyond time and space, indivisible, immaterial, incorporeal, and unlike anything in the world in terms of genus or species. It must be simple, unified, and partless, with its essence being existence itself.

  • How does Ibn Sina prove that there can only be one necessary existence or God?

    -Ibn Sina argues that if there were two or more necessary beings, they would have to be composed of parts that make them distinct from each other, which would contradict their necessity. Therefore, there must be only one necessary existent, affirming the principle of monotheism.

  • What additional resource is suggested for a more detailed understanding of Ibn Sina's argument?

    -For a more detailed understanding of Ibn Sina's argument, the script suggests checking out Dr. Khani's channel called 'Thinking Islam,' where there is a video dedicated to this argument with visuals and graphs.

Outlines

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📚 Ibn Sina's Argument for God's Existence

This paragraph introduces the Persian philosopher Ibn Sina, known as Avicenna in the West, who is renowned for his significant contributions to both Islamic intellectual tradition and European Scholasticism. Avicenna is particularly famous for his proof for the existence of God, known as the 'Proof of the Truthful', which is based on the concepts of contingency and necessity. The proof begins by defining God as a necessary existence, contrasting it with contingent existences that depend on something else for their being. Avicenna argues that most things in the world are contingent, existing due to their causes and conditions, and that nothing in the world necessarily exists in itself. This leads to the exploration of whether all existence is contingent or if there is a necessary existent that exists by its own nature, independent of any external cause.

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🔍 The Infinite Regress and Necessary Existence

The second paragraph delves into the implications of an infinite regress of contingent existences and the logical necessity of a non-contingent, or necessary, existence. It discusses the idea that if all things are contingent, there must be a 'first cause' or necessary existence that does not depend on anything else for its existence. The paragraph refutes the notion that the totality of all contingent things could be necessary, as a whole is only as necessary as its parts, and since the parts are contingent, the whole is also contingent. Avicenna argues that the only logical conclusion is the existence of a cause external to the set of all contingent things, a cause that is uncaused and necessary in itself, which he equates with the concept of God.

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🌟 Characteristics of the Necessary Existence (God)

In the final paragraph, the characteristics of the necessary existence, identified as God, are explored. It is established that this necessary existence must be beyond time and space, indivisible, simple, unified, and immaterial to avoid dependency on any physical components. Avicenna further argues that this necessary existence is unique, as the existence of multiple necessary beings would imply composition and thus contingency. The paragraph concludes by aligning the necessary existence with the Islamic conception of God, emphasizing the principle of tawhid or monotheism. The summary also suggests viewers refer to Dr. Khani's 'Thinking Islam' channel for a more detailed visual explanation of Avicenna's argument.

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Keywords

💡Ibn Sina

Ibn Sina, also known as Avicenna in the Western world, was a Persian Muslim polymath and philosopher who significantly influenced Islamic intellectual tradition and European thinking. His works spanned various fields, including philosophy, medicine, and theology. In the script, he is credited with providing one of the most impressive arguments for the existence of God, known as the 'Proof of the Necessary Existent'.

💡Polymath

A polymath is an individual with extensive knowledge in various fields, often crossing the boundaries of different disciplines. In the context of the video, Ibn Sina is described as one of the most influential polymaths, indicating his broad intellectual contributions and expertise in multiple areas of thought.

💡Contingency

Contingency in the script refers to the concept of something being dependent on or conditioned by something else for its existence. It is a central theme in Ibn Sina's argument for the existence of God, where he posits that most things in the world are contingent, meaning they could exist or not exist, and their existence is not self-necessary.

💡Necessity

Necessity, as discussed in the script, is the opposite of contingency and refers to the concept of something that must exist by its own nature and is not dependent on anything else for its existence. In the context of Ibn Sina's argument, God is defined as the 'necessary existence,' which is the uncaused cause of all contingent beings.

💡Proof of the Necessary Existent

This is the central argument presented by Ibn Sina for the existence of God. It is based on the concepts of contingency and necessity, arguing that since most things are contingent, there must be a necessary existent that does not depend on anything else for its existence, which is God.

💡Scholastic Tradition

The Scholastic tradition refers to a method of teaching and learning in medieval Europe that was based on the works of Aristotle and other philosophers. In the script, it is mentioned that Ibn Sina's works had a significant impact on this tradition, inspiring European thinkers and shaping their intellectual discourse.

💡Medicine

The script mentions that Ibn Sina wrote a work on medicine that became a standard textbook in Europe until the early modern period. This highlights his contributions not only to philosophy but also to the field of medical science.

💡Aristotelian

Aristotelian refers to the philosophical ideas and teachings of Aristotle, a Greek philosopher. In the script, the term is used to describe the influence of Aristotle's concept of the 'first cause' on Ibn Sina's argument for the existence of God.

💡Theological Tenets

Theological tenets are the fundamental principles or doctrines of a religion. In the context of the video, the script discusses how Ibn Sina's argument aligns with the theological tenets of the Islamic religion, particularly the concept of Tawhid, or monotheism.

💡Tawhid

Tawhid is the Islamic doctrine of the oneness and uniqueness of God. The script explains that Ibn Sina's argument for the existence of a single necessary existent supports the Islamic principle of Tawhid, affirming the existence of one God.

💡Incorporation

Incorporation in the script refers to the concept that God, as the necessary existent, cannot be made up of parts or be dependent on any physical body. It emphasizes the simplicity and indivisibility of God's essence, which is a key attribute in Ibn Sina's conception of the divine.

Highlights

Ibn Sina, also known as Avicenna in the West, is renowned as one of history's most influential polymaths and philosophers.

He had a profound impact on both Islamic intellectual tradition and European thought, inspiring the Scholastic tradition.

Avicenna wrote a medical work that served as a standard textbook in Europe until the 18th century.

His most famous philosophical contribution is the 'Proof of the Truthful', an argument for the existence of God based on contingency and necessity.

In Avicenna's philosophy, God is defined as the necessary existence, distinct from contingent or possible existences.

Contingent beings are those that could exist or not exist, dependent on something else for their existence.

Avicenna argues that most things in the world are contingent and caused, not existing by necessity.

The concept of 'cause' in Avicenna's argument extends beyond temporal causation to the conditions that make something exist.

Avicenna challenges the idea that the totality of all contingent things could be a necessary existence, demonstrating its contingency.

He refutes the possibility of an infinite chain of contingent existence, leading to the conclusion of a necessary existent.

Avicenna's argument concludes that there must be an uncaused cause, a necessary existence external to all contingent beings.

This necessary existence is described as being beyond time and space, simple, unified, and partless.

Avicenna asserts that the necessary existence is immaterial and unlike anything in the world, aligning with the Islamic conception of God.

He further argues for the singularity of the necessary existent, refuting the possibility of multiple necessary beings.

Avicenna's proof is an influential argument that has shaped theological and philosophical discussions on the existence of God.

For a more detailed exploration of Avicenna's argument, Dr. Khani's 'Thinking Islam' channel is recommended.

Avicenna's proof aligns with Islamic theological tenets, particularly the principle of tawhid or monotheism.

Transcripts

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the Persian Muslim philosopher Ian Cena

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more widely known in the west as Aisa is

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one of the most influential and

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impressive polymaths and philosophers in

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history not only did he significantly

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influence the islamicate intellectual

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tradition he also had a major impact on

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European uh thinking uh inspiring the

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Scholastic tradition and even writing a

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work on medicine that would be a

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standard textbook of medicine in Europe

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right up until the early modern period

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around the 18th

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century but another thing that iban CA

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is mostly famous for is providing one of

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the most celebrated and perhaps

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impressive arguments or proofs for the

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existence of God in all of history this

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is known as the proof of the truthful

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and it is an argument that is based

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primarily on the concepts of contingency

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and

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necessity to ibin ca God is defined as

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the necessary existence

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in

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Arabic and what this means will become

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clear as we go down the logical journey

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of this

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argument so when you look around in the

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world everything that you see is

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essentially

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contingent now what does this mean to be

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contingent is to be dependent on or

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conditioned by something else in Arabic

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iina uses the

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term literally meaning possible existent

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a contingent or possible existence is

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something that could exist but it might

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as well not exist it is possible that it

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exist and it is equally possible that it

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doesn't exist and it is contingent that

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is it is conditioned or dependent on

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something else for its existence which

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in this case would be its

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cause now there are also impossible

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existence to aena such as a round Square

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for instance which can't exist because

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you can't even imagine such a thing uh

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this would be a complete category error

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uh but we don't have to think about

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these impossible existence anymore

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that's not relevant to the argument now

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on the other hand they could possibly be

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a necessary existence something that uh

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has to exist that per by itself by its

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own Nature has to exist without being

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dependent on anything else for its

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existence not being caused by something

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else in any case it seems that at least

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most things in the world are contingent

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and

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caused and when I say caused that does

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not simply mean that for example I exist

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because my parents decided to have a

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baby or that the table exists because

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someone decided to make it this is also

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true but with contingence and cause icen

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means something more

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profound I only exist because the parts

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that make me up exist and in this

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particular configuration I only exist

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because the air that I breathe exists

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and gives me life uh because of the just

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right amount of heat on Earth so that I

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don't freeze to death or burn to death

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and every part of me that makes me what

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I am is also in turn contingent being

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dependent on and caused by its own parts

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and conditions none of these things that

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we think of and you know it's a thing

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and then the thing that causes that

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thing and then that thing none of these

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things necessarily exist in themselves

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there is nothing about their nature or

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Essence that tells us that they have to

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exist quote that to which possibility

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belongs in essence does not come into

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existence by its Essence for in as much

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as it is possible existence by its

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Essence is not more appropriate than

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non-existence thus if its existence or

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nonexistence becomes more appropriate

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than the other that is because of the

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presence or absence of a certain thing

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respectively it follows that the

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existence of every possible thing is

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from

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another so all contingent things are

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contingent right they all dependent and

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conditioned by something else they are

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caused by something else so that begs

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the question are all all things

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contingent or is it possible that there

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is a necessary existent something that

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necessarily exists by itself without

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depending on anything else this is what

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abin aims to

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investigate here a mamaka Buddhist might

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simply say yes to the first question all

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things are indeed contingent and

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dependent in fact they would be saying

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that there AR even things at all but

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that's beside the

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point whatever contingent existent we

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take as our starting point it is either

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dependent on or caused by a necessary

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existence or by another contingent

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existence I don't if you say the first

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thing that what we consider contingent

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is caused by a necessary existent then

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the argument is done but of course since

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most of us are probably scientific

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rational people we would say that no

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this microphone is contingent it is

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dependent on or caused by other things

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which are in themselves contingent and

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dependent on other things in turn and so

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on and again I want to stress that when

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I say that something is caused by

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another thing here I don't mean

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temporally as we said but uh cause when

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we say cause here it is those things

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that make something exist and be what it

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is at any given moment and we quickly

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realize that we can do this at infinitum

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an infinite stretch of contingent

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existence oh but you might say at the

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end there must be something that stops

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that chain of dependence which in itself

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isn't dependent on anything else before

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it well then you have basically

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concluded that there is a necessary

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existence and the AR m is done but IB

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Cena isn't this lazy let's instead

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presume that all existence that we can

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know are indeed

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contingent but perhaps we can consider

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that the whole chain or the whole set of

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of all contingent things all things in

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the universe taken together as a whole

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that that whole maybe is

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necessary right everything we can know

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in the universe seems to be contingent

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because everything is dependent on

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something you know caused by something

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else but that's unsatisfactory because

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then why are there things at all if

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everything is dependent on something

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else where is the sort of source of

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these things what is what is the first

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cause as Aristotle would call it because

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no matter how far we push the argument

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we always end up with more contingence

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and never reach a cause that stands on

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its own in sort of independently that

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start of the chain so again let's then

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presume that perhaps the totality of all

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contingent things this this whole this

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whole set together is necessary while

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you know all the individual constituents

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of that hole are the contingent things

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but that the hole itself is somehow

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necessary this argument does not hold to

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iina why because what is a totality it

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is a collection or amalgamation of

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Parts but if that whole is dependent on

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parts to make it what it is it's no

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longer necessary it too is contingent

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because it is dependent on its

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contingent parts and has been caused by

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them quote if that other so one of the

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existence in this chain of contingent

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existence goes on to Infinity every one

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of the units of the chain will be

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possible in essence but the whole chain

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depends on these units thus the chain

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two will not be necessary and becomes

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necessary through another he further

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explicates on this point in the shat

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quote every totality having every one of

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its units as cost requires a cost EX

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external to its units this is because

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either one it does not require a cause

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at all hence it is necessary and not

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possible but how could this be so when

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it is only necessitated by its units two

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it requires a cause that is all its

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units hence it is cause by itself that

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totality and all its units are one thing

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further cool in the sense of everyone is

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not something through which the totality

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is

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necessitated three it requires a cause

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that is some of its units but if every

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one of its units is caused then some of

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its units are not more deserving of

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being the cause than some others the

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reason is that the cause of the caus is

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more deserving of being the cause or

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number four it requires a cause external

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to all units that is the remaining truth

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he's giving us four options here the

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first we've already covered to some

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degree maybe the whole set or chain

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taken as a whole doesn't need a cause

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well we've already shown that it is

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caused because it is dependent on its

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constituent Parts asena said it is quot

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necessitated by its

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units the second option is that perhaps

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all of the individual units are the

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cause of the whole

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set but this obviously doesn't make

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sense because all the units are

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contingent so they can't cause

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themselves and therefore not the whole

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either thirdly maybe one unit in the

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chain is the cause but this is clearly

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not the case either because again each

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unit is contingent even if you would say

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that one of the units isn't contingent

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but necessary then that unit wouldn't be

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part of the set anymore because the set

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was a set of contingent things so it

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would be outside the set and again our

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problems would be solved so this doesn't

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really solve the issue either we're only

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left with the four option then to been

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CA that is that the whole set of

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contingent things the whole universe

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with all its existence must require a

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cause that is external to all its units

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quote every totality organized of causes

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and effect consecutive including a

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non-aed cause has this uncaused cause as

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an extremity for if the cause were an

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intermediate it would be

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caused so we have reached a kind of

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inevitable conclusion based on The

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Logical experiment that ABC is taking us

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on there must be a necessary existence

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that is external to the set of all

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contingent or possible existence

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something that per definition has to

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exist and couldn't possibly not exist it

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is the uncaused cause of all things

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Beyond time and space and this necessary

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existence

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the is

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God quote it has become clear that every

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chain organized of causes and effects be

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it finite or infinite is in need of a

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cause external to it if it does not

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include anything save

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effects it is necessary that this

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external cause be linked to it as an

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extremity it has also become clear that

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if this chain includes cles an UNCA

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thing then this thing is an extremity

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and a limit therefore Every Chain

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terminates in that whose existence is

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necessary in

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itself but this also makes certain

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things to be required for this necessary

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existent it has to be Beyond time and

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space as we said otherwise it would be

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bound by those things and thus

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contingent it can't be made up of any

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parts it must be simple and unified a

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partless reality because like we said if

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it was made of a parts it would be

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dependent on those parts thus caused by

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those parts and suddenly it wouldn't be

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a necessary existence anymore quote if

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the essence of that whose existence is

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necessary is composed of two or more

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things that unite it becomes necessary

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by them one of these things or every one

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of them will be prior to it and a

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constituent of it therefore that whose

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existence is necessary is indivisible

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whether in concept or in

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quantity for the same reason the

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necessary existence must be immaterial

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incorporeal so as to not be dependent on

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a body it's also unlike anything in the

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world not sharing in the quiddity or

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whatness of anything else in terms of

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genus or species remember that we said

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that the quiddity or Essence of God is

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simply existence quote the first has no

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alike no contrary no genus and no

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difference thus it has no definition and

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cannot be indicated except by pure

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intellectual knowledge in this wayen

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also takes this argument further by also

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attempting to prove that this necessary

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existence or God aligns with the

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theological tenets of the Islamic

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religion most importantly for this

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perhaps is that the necessary existence

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is one thus affirming the basic Islamic

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principle of toed or monotheism after

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all why does there have to be only one

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necessary existent couldn't there be two

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or three or even 10 well let's suppose

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that there are two necessary beings

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because they are two there must be

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something that separates them so within

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the reality of these two there must be

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some things that make them similar and

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thus necessary but also other aspects

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that make them distinct from each other

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otherwise they would be identical and

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not two different things but if that is

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the case then that means that they are

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made up of parts or aspects in which

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they are different from each other and

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then they wouldn't be necessary anymore

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but would be caused by those parts and

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therefore both of them are now dependent

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on some other actual truly necessary

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existence so this is obviously absurd

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there must in other words be only one

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necessary existent or God who shares all

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the characteristics or perhaps

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non-characteristics that we have just

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outlined so in a nutshell that is IB

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Cena's proof for argument for the

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existence of God uh an argument that has

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become very influential throughout

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history now if you want a more proper

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rundown of this argument you should

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definitely check out Dr khani's Channel

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called thinking Islam where he presents

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this argument he has a video dedicated

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to this argument uh with visuals and

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graphs that really

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help explain it in an even better way so

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he breaks it down more in a more

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detailed and just I think in a better

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way than I do in that video so go check

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that out if you're interested thus IB

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Cena believes that he has proven that

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there is a necessary existence and that

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that necessary existence necessarily has

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certain features and qualities that

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align with the Islamic conception of God

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and I will see you next time

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