Mistakes Were Made, RTX 4070 Ti Super Review Update

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welcome back to Harbor unbox today I

have a quick update video for you a

quick re-review of the RTX 4070 TI super

I guess you could say for those of you

who missed it I noted in our TI super

review that just a day before the review

was set to go live Nvidia informed us

that the MSI Ventus 3x model that we had

been provided with for testing was

underperforming by as much as 5% and

this was a huge problem as we obviously

wanted to evaluate the RTX 4070 super

accurately but there simply wasn't

enough time to fully retest it in fact

testing aside these reviews take an

enormous amount of time to create the

week leading up to the 4070 TI super and

7600 XT reviews I was working 16 to 18

hour days pretty much 7 days a week but

that's not a complaint on my behalf I

absolutely love this the point rather

being that 24 hours just isn't enough

time to reproduce just days and days of

testing but we're also not going to post

a product review with an incorrect

conclusion due to inaccurate testing so

with the little time that I did have

available I slotted in the Asus tough

gaming version of the RTX 472 super into

our test system quickly validated our 40

40p data and after a few hours it was

pretty clear that the data that we had

was within a few per of the tough gaming

and therefore our conclusion wouldn't

change and this really was a bit of a

boring release from Nvidia now I

promised you guys I would go back and

update all of our data using the tough

gaming model and feature that in our RTX

480 super review next week but since I

now have all of the data I figured why

wait we can just quickly go over it now

also the slightly underperforming MSI

Ventus 3x graphics card wasn't

necessarily my fault uh but I did make a

sloppy error that was my fault and I'd

like to apologize for that and then

correct it shortly after releasing that

video which went out at 1:00 a.m. local

time mind you I was made aware of a

sloppy error in my specs table where I

got multiple specifications wrong stuff

like the RTX 480 core count and L2 cach

capacity of the RTX 4072 super so pretty

basic stuff there bit embarrassing

anyway I pinned a comment on the video

at around 2 a.m. explaining the error I

also then trimmed that section of the

video out using the YouTube trim

function but unfortunately this does

require an entire uh well requires the

video to be reprocessed which generally

does take several hours so that being

the case I was completely exhausted and

I went to bed at around 3:00 a.m. so

upon waking up I quickly headed out to

the office and found that YouTube had

processed the video I then updated the

pinned comment and then I had to change

all the time stamps as well because they

were now out because about 2 minutes of

the video had been cut removing that

specification section that I got wrong I

also updated the specs table and the

script for the written version over at

text spot and in the pinned comment I

linked people who were interested in

looking at the correct specification to

go over to the tech spot review so that

was my screw up sorted and before we

move on here is the correct

specifications table the RTX 470 TI has

13% fewer cores than the 480 and 10%

more than the 4070 TI it also packs the

same 48 megab L2 cache as the 470 with

the same core clock speed the key

upgrade of course is the memory bus

which is now 33% wider at 256 bit but

with slightly slower 21 GBS per second

memory the bandwidth is just 6% less

than that of the RTX 480 so those are

the correct specifications and again

sorry for the mistake in the original

video which has now been cut out okay

the next thing to address Performance

but rather than go over all of the games

tested individually as there are a dozen

games tested for rization performance at

two resolutions and then 10 games for R

tracing I'm just going to show you the

average data and then we'll go over all

of the individual game data for the

upcoming RTX 480 super review next week

at 1080p we see almost no change just a

1% uplift with the new data using the

Asus tough gaming RTX 470 TI super so

there's not much more to say here let's

just move on to the 1440p data now 1440p

we're seeing a 3% increase with the

tough gaming over the Ventus 3x going

from 120 FPS to 124 FPS this means

whereas previously the 4072 I super was

just 3% faster than the 4070 TI on

average it's now 7% faster which I

believe is in line with most

testing so just a very minor Improvement

overall here and this is where those

gains come from interestingly we did see

a rather large 9% uplift in Hogwarts

Legacy with the tough gaming with fairly

minor gains elsewhere 4% Resident Evil 4

and a plague Tower aquum with little to

nothing everywhere

else now at 4K we're again looking at a

3% performance increase on average when

using the tough gaming model taking us

from an average of 68 fps to 70 FPS

still this meant where as previously we

found the RTX 470 TI super to be 6% fast

than the 4070 TI it's now 9% faster so

about what the difference and

specifications would suggest we'd

see this time the biggest Improvement

was seen in Dying Light 2 where the

tough gaming was 7% faster than Watch

Dogs Legion with a 6% boost 5% for a

plague Toil requium and then just 4% in

C Punk 2077 and everything else was at

3% or less then we have the rate tracing

data and here we're seeing a 2% increase

when calculating using the geoman making

the 4070 TI super now 6% faster than the

standard 470 TI then if we calculate the

data for each title individually and

then average those results we end up

with a 3% uplift it's near enough to a

rounding era and typically we're looking

at a 4% increase though there were a few

titles that saw no performance change at

all as for how these changes affect our

review conclusion well they don't which

is why we went about publishing the data

that we had as you'd expect a 3%

increase in performance has improved the

value of the 4072 I super by exactly

wait for it 3% and believe it or not

that doesn't change our thoughts about

the product but this is just the MSRP

data so let's see what this does in the

retail Market here we see that instead

of costing 133% more per frame than the

7900 XT the 40702 super really costs 9%

more per frame which is certainly better

but it doesn't change my thoughts about

this product and the standard 4070 super

still represents better value as I said

in my original review so there you have

it our updated data using the Asus tough

gaming version of the RTX 472 super and

of course that fixed specifications

table again sorry for the mess up there

I still feel that the 4072 super is a

very underwhelming product and while

it's nice and I'd suppose necessary at

the $800 price point to go from 12 GB to

16 GB of vram after a year though you'd

probably expect Nvidia to deliver a bit

more than an extra 4 GB of vrm and a

mere 6 to 9% performance uplift

depending on the resolution used for

testing as for the MSI Ventus 3x model

or really all MSI RTX 47 TI super

graphics cards you can now download a

firmware update which takes around 20

seconds to execute and it will address

the missing performance although neither

MSI nor Nvidia have explained what the

issue was I suspect it's power related

and this is because the affected MSI

models were all provided to the media

well in advance so they very early

uction models and it's possible there

was a late change in specification it

appears to me that the MSI models were

shipped with a lower TDP which can

result in a performance loss despite

clock speeds appear Inc correct and this

is a result of nvidia's advanced power

gaing technology which can gate off some

of the SMS to save power so while the

GPU might be running the cores at 2.7

GHz not all cores are active due to a

limited power budget and this explains

why 1080P or some of the less demanding

games we saw little to no difference in

performance between the Juventus 3x and

tough gaming while in the more demanding

scenarios we consistently saw a

performance improvement with the Asus

model and this would also explain why I

heard reports that some Ventus 3x models

were 5% slower on average While others

were 1 to 2% slower basically the

reports were all over the place but this

makes sense as silicon quality does come

into play here higher quality silicon

will perform better when power limited

which is why power M for gpus and CPUs

ensure that even the worst silicon can

achieve the stock or Baseline

performance whatever the case this was a

massive headache but ultimately a bit of

a nothing Burger as well at least in our

case where we only saw a 2 to 3%

Improvement overall if it was 5% or more

than sure anyway I'd better get back to

more testing as I said we have the 4080

super next week along with a few other

new products so there's really no time

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time

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