NATO alert on potential Russian strikes | German defence ministry mulls NATO war scenarios | WION

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29 Jan 202407:50

Summary

TLDRIn the wake of Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, European concerns are mounting over the possibility of an expanded Russian offensive into Europe in the coming decade, potentially without U.S. support. NATO's military logistics center commander in Germany, alongside U.S. and Dutch generals, warns of possible Russian strikes across Europe, including civilian and military infrastructure. Amidst these fears, Germany prepares for Russian cyber attacks and sabotage, while the Ukrainian president fears escalation into a third world war without Western support. Visiting fellow Matthew Drön discusses the legitimacy of these concerns, the impact of potential U.S. political shifts, and strategies for European and Baltic states to deter Russian aggression.

Takeaways

  • 😨 European generals and officials worry Russia could expand offensive into Europe over next decade if conflict in Ukraine escalates further
  • 😰 Germany already planning for potential Russian cyber attacks and sabotage against German targets
  • 😒 Ukraine president fears conflict could spark WW3 without more Western support against Russia
  • 😕 Diminishing US military support to Ukraine possible under Republican Congress, causing concerns in Europe
  • 😟 NATO military planners preparing regional defense plans across Europe in response to renewed Russian threat
  • 🤔 Russia less likely to attack NATO in short term, but could target weaker non-NATO countries near Ukraine
  • ⚔️ Baltic states harnessing NATO support to bolster defenses against potential Russian aggression
  • 😎 NATO staging massive military exercises across Europe with up to 100,000 troops
  • 😥 European allies recognize they may need to handle own security without US help if Trump elected
  • 😡 Russian calculus could change if NATO unity weakened under Trump presidency

Q & A

  • What does Matthew Drown say is the main factor raising fears among European nations about having to handle their own security?

    -The prospect of Donald Trump being elected president of the United States, given his previous statements questioning the U.S. commitment to NATO.

  • What warning has Lieutenant General Alexander Saul Frank of NATO given to allies?

    -He has urged allies to steel themselves for potential Russian strikes on targets across Europe, including in Germany.

  • What types of Russian strikes are NATO generals worried about?

    -They are worried Russia could strike deep behind front lines at civilian and military infrastructure, as they have done in Ukraine.

  • What understanding does Drown say exists between the West and Russia regarding direct attacks?

    -There is a tacit understanding that the West would not directly target Russia, and Russia would not directly target NATO countries, to keep escalation under control.

  • What are some ways the Baltic states have prepared for potential Russian aggression?

    -They have harnessed the NATO framework for reinforcement and reassurance, including the deployment of NATO tactical groups and participating in military exercises.

  • How might a weakened NATO change Russia's calculus according to Drown?

    -It would likely make NATO less deterrent to Russia, though it may not precipitate direct attacks on NATO.

  • What NATO plans has Drown said have been adapted for new Russian threats?

    -NATO has adopted regional defense plans to adapt to the threats posed by Russia and others.

  • What is NATO's focus now that Russia is on a war footing?

    -NATO is focused back on the Russian threat after searching for purpose in the decades since the Cold War.

  • What large NATO military exercise is Drown referring to?

    -He is referring to Steadfast Defender 2024, NATO's largest military exercise deploying up to 100,000 troops across Europe.

  • What action does the Ukrainian president want from Germany?

    -He wants Germany to use its economic power to gather more support for Ukraine.

Outlines

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😕 Concerns over Putin's territorial ambitions in Europe

The first paragraph discusses concerns among European nations that Russian President Vladimir Putin may expand his offensive into Europe over the next 10 years after his full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022. There are worries that European nations may have to face Russian forces without US support. Some NATO generals have urged preparedness for potential Russian strikes across Europe, including in Germany.

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👀 Factors causing worry among NATO military leadership

The second paragraph analyzes factors causing worry among NATO military leadership about having to handle Europe's security without US support. This is mainly due to prospects of Donald Trump being re-elected US President given his previous statements questioning US commitments to NATO and not wanting involvement in protecting European allies.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Geopolitical catastrophe

This term refers to an event or series of events that drastically changes the political and geographical landscape on a global scale. Vladimir Putin described the dissolution of the Soviet Empire as such a catastrophe, highlighting its impact on Russia's global influence and security dynamics. This concept is crucial in understanding the broader context of Russia's actions and motivations, particularly its invasion of Ukraine in 2022, as it suggests a desire to reclaim lost prestige or territory.

💡Full-scale invasion

A full-scale invasion is a large-scale military action where one nation invades another with the intent of occupation or annexation. The script mentions Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, highlighting a significant escalation in regional tensions and a direct challenge to international order and security. This event is central to the video's theme, illustrating the immediate and potential long-term security concerns for Europe.

💡NATO

NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization) is a military alliance between North American and European countries, established in 1949 for mutual defense against aggression. The script references NATO's concerns over Russia's actions and the implications for European security, emphasizing the alliance's role in coordinating defense efforts against potential Russian expansion into Europe.

💡Cyber attacks

Cyber attacks involve attempts by individuals or nations to damage or disrupt the computer systems of a target, often for strategic or military advantages. The script mentions Germany's preparations for potential Russian cyber attacks, highlighting the multifaceted nature of modern warfare and the importance of cybersecurity in national defense strategies.

💡Third World War

This term denotes a hypothetical global conflict succeeding the First and Second World Wars. The Ukrainian president's fear of the Ukrainian conflict escalating into a Third World War if Russian aggression is not contained underscores the potential for regional conflicts to spiral into global crises, emphasizing the critical need for international support and cooperation to prevent such an outcome.

💡Military aid

Military aid refers to assistance provided by one nation to another in the form of weapons, equipment, training, or financial support for defense purposes. The script discusses concerns over potentially diminishing military aid from the US to Ukraine due to political opposition, highlighting the significance of such support for Ukraine's defense against Russian aggression.

💡Russian aggression

This phrase refers to hostile or confrontational actions by Russia, particularly its military interventions in neighboring countries. The script's focus on Russian aggression towards Ukraine and potential threats to Europe illustrates the ongoing security challenges posed by Russia's foreign policy and military ambitions.

💡Economic heft

Economic heft refers to the influence or power a country has due to its economic strength. The Ukrainian president's urge for Germany to use its economic heft to gather more support for Ukraine emphasizes the role of economic measures, alongside military aid, in international diplomacy and conflict resolution.

💡Vulnerable nations

Vulnerable nations are countries that are at high risk of external aggression due to their geographical location, political instability, or military weakness. The script discusses measures that such nations, particularly those in Europe and the Baltics, can take to avoid or avert conflict with Russia, stressing the importance of preparedness and alliance support in enhancing national security.

💡Military exercise

A military exercise is a training operation where military forces practice their skills in a simulated environment. The script mentions NATO's largest military exercise, 'steadfast Defender 2024', as part of its preparation against potential threats. This illustrates the alliance's efforts to maintain readiness and deter aggression through visible demonstrations of capability and unity.

Highlights

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Russian President Vladimir Putin once

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proclaimed the dissolution of the Soviet

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Empire as the greatest geopolitical

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catastrophe of the 20th century but then

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came Russia's fullscale invasion of

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Ukraine in 2022 concerns are now Rising

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among European nations that Putin could

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expand his offensive father into Europe

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over the coming decade and they might

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have to face his forces without us

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support in an interview with the times

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Lieutenant General Alexander Saul Frank

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the commander of NATO's military

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logistic Center in Southwest Germany

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urged allies to steal

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itself for potential Russian strikes on

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targets across Europe including in

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Germany other generals from the United

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States and the Netherlands are also

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worried that in this scenario the

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Russian would strike deep behind their

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front lines on the civilian and Military

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infrastructure however These Warnings

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are partly based on the war in Ukraine

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where Russia has lost launched heavy air

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and missile strikes well away from the

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battle lines in retaliation the

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ukrainians have also knocked out

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ammunition dumps command posts and fuel

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depos hundreds of miles into Russian

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occupied territory meanwhile over the

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weekend German newspaper built reported

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that Germany's Armed Forces had already

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started planning for the eventuality of

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Russian cyber attacks and sabotage

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against German targets the document

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outlined a potential to conflict between

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Russia and the North Atlantic Treaty

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Alliance however specific data on the

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number and movements of NATO troops are

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withheld for security reasons on the

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other hand the Ukrainian president is

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fearing the Ukrainian conflict will

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escalate into a third world war if

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Russian aggression is not contained with

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support from kiev's Western allies he

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also urged Germany to use its economic

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heft to gather more support for Ukraine

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am made the prospects of potentially

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diminishing military aid from the US due

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to Republican objections in the

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Congress Matthew

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drawn is a visiting fellow at the center

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for strategic and International Studies

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he's now joining us live from Washington

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DC Mr drawn thank you very much for

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making time for us and welcome to weon

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Wild is

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one thanks for having me are the

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concerns raised by European nations that

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Putin could expand his offensive f into

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Europe over the coming decade Justified

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is there a possibility that even that

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could

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happen well if we're talking over uh the

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coming decades uh yes certainly this is

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something that at least if you're a

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sound military planner you have to think

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about and and prepare uh now on the

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short term I think this is a less likely

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I mean if you're a rational decision

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maker in Moscow although we have seen

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some irrational decisions in in in the

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past but if you're already struggling to

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maintain the the front line with the

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ukrainians here I'm not sure you really

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want to involve uh NATO and and uh its

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its military power uh into the conflict

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You' rather probably seek uh diversion

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or destruction and maybe targets uh

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softer uh let's say softer targets or

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weaker countries uh in the vicinity of

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Ukraine uh such as m

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or

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Georgia uh but yeah the on the short

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term I I don't see any extension of the

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of the conflict there's been an let's

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say tcid understanding between the west

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and and Russia that the West would not

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directly Target Russia and that Russia

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would not directly Target uh NATO NATO

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countries to keep escalation under

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control uh for both sides MH Mr drawn

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now that you've mentioned the military

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what could have been the stalking factor

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or for this warry or fear among generals

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and also the military allian of NATO

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what could have caused that

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worry well I think uh you don't really I

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mean you can look East but you should

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also look West if you're European and of

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course the the rising Prospect of uh

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Donald Trump being elected as the new uh

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president of the United States given its

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previous

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uh statements on on NATO specifically

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and on the war in Ukraine saying that he

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would solve the issue in 24 hours or his

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previous comments that he would uh pull

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out of of NATO that his it doesn't feel

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that that the US has uh to to get

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involved to protect uh European allies

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and partners I think this is probably

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the the main factor that rises fears or

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at least uh that European capitals are

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now coming to terms of the fact that

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they might have to handle the security

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of the continent by themselves uh in the

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coming in the coming years and and we're

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talking the elections are in November uh

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this year so this is not a so far away

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uh future so I guess this this also

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helps European capitals to to think

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about what should be their

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responsibility how they how they can be

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prepared for a scenario because of

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course the fact that NATO is

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weend uh would change the uh Russia's

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calculus and although it might not

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precipitate Russia to attack NATO uh I'm

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sure it will I mean certainly if you're

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a Russian decision maker it would make

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NATO less uh deterrent probably okay if

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that's the case what can the so-called

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vulnerable nations in Europe and also

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the baltics do to avoid or even avert an

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imminent conflict with Russia

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well at least the Baltic states uh have

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been the the the most uh prepared and

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the most aware of the Russian threat and

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they have been warning the rest of

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Europe for years and so uh they are

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still I mean small countries but they

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have harnessed the the NATO framework to

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to be reinforced to be reassured so you

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have now um tactical groups that are uh

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deployed under the enhanced forward PR

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of NATO in those States and in other

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Eastern Eastern European countries uh

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now you're seeing also the the biggest

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uh military exercise from NATO being uh

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deployed in in in several parts of

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Europe from the north to the east uh

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with up to 990,000 troops it's called a

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steadfast Defender

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2024 plus NATO has adopted some what

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they call Regional plans uh to to adapt

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the new threats uh posed by Russia and

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others um to to Europe so I mean NATO is

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uh has been searching for its its

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purpose for uh for the past two decades

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but now that Russia is on the war

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footing it it's really back focused on

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the on on the Russian threat and so

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there's a lot going on of course not

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publicly but from the military planners

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are fully uh uh hands hand on Deck all

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right I've been talking to to Matthew

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drawn who is a visiting fellow at the

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center for strategic and International

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Studies Mr drawn thank you very much for

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talking to weon Wild is one today thanks

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