The Venting EP 44 | Solly Moholo On His Tough Times, Music, ZCC Church, Bushiri Rumour

Summary

The transcript captures a conversation between a host and legendary South African gospel musician Agent about his experiences overcoming struggles in the music industry. They discuss Agent's iconic career, including producing anti-crime advocacy music, collaborating with police, and continuing to release albums into his 60s. Agent emphasizes persevering through challenges and building community to uplift youth. The host expresses admiration for Agent's resilience and looks forward to his upcoming album release.

Takeaways

• 😃 The conversation is between a human interviewer and Claude, an AI assistant created by Anthropic.
• 😊 The interview features a legend gospel artist discussing his life, career and new album.
• 🎤 The artist reflects on his decades-long career starting in the 1970s.
• 🎼 He has worked with many famous musicians but never won a music award.
• 🤔 He felt isolated and stressed at times during his career.
• 🙏 He wants to help youth struggling with suicidal thoughts.
• 👮‍♂️ His new album focuses on crime prevention and supporting the police.
• 🎶 He is passionate about using his music to send positive messages.
• 🎹 He is eager to start working on new albums and songs.
• 💪 He credits his faith for helping him through difficult times in his career.

Q & A

How long has Papa Penny been performing gospel music?

Papa Penny has been performing gospel music since the late 1970s. He started in 1978 with a group called Agent Chrisan Church.

What was Papa Penny's biggest hit song?

Papa Penny said his biggest hit song was 'Solo' during the time of the Gospel Music Awards.

Why does Papa Penny feel he has never won a gospel music award?

Papa Penny feels he has never won a gospel music award because he believes the awards are pre-planned and given to certain artists rather than based on merit.

What is Papa Penny's latest album called?

Papa Penny's latest album is called 'Stop Killing' and focuses on speaking out against crime and violence in South Africa. It is set to release on January 26, 2024.

What record label is Papa Penny currently signed to?

Papa Penny is currently signed to Sony Music under manager Sean Watson.

Who first approached Papa Penny about releasing music?

Papa Penny said a man named Paulo, who programmed his first album, approached him first about releasing music before anyone else.

What does Papa Penny think the youth need right now?

Papa Penny said the youth are struggling with suicidal thoughts and need more community support and prayer.

What does Papa Penny plan to do to help youth?

Papa Penny plans to hold a provincial prayer service for youth and invite them to join him in speaking out against issues like crime and drugs.

Who is Papa Penny's target audience?

Papa Penny said his job is to make relevant music that reaches the intended audience and destinations.

What's next for Papa Penny after this latest album?

Papa Penny said he already has plans for his next album, set to be released in March 2024, but he did not reveal the title yet.

Outlines

00:00

😊 Introduction and Thanking Viewers

The host welcomes viewers to the 2024 podcast, expressing gratitude for their support. He reflects on starting the channel and its growth over time.

05:12

🎤 Interviewing a Legendary Musician

The host interviews a legendary musician, reflecting on his decades-long career starting in the 1970s. They discuss his music, faith, awards, and struggles along the way.

10:24

🎵 Discussing a New Album on Social Issues

The musician discusses his new 2026 album focused on social issues like crime, gender violence, and drug abuse. He wants to collaborate with police and community.

15:24

😔 Reflecting on Difficult Times and Isolation

The musician opens up about difficult times in his career where he felt isolated and stressed. He persevered through faith and dedication to his calling.

20:26

🙏 Offering Hope and Guidance to Youth

Considering youth suicide and struggles, the host and musician discuss the importance of coming together for prayer, guidance and giving hope to youth.

25:27

🎶 Navigating the Music Industry

They discuss strategies for success in the music industry - being patient, handling challenges, and finding the right partners for production and promotion.

30:27

🙌 Preparing for an Upcoming Tour

As he prepares for an upcoming tour, the musician reflects on performing for presidents in the past. He aims to unite communities across the nation through his music.

35:29

😤 Expressing Frustrations with the Church

The musician expresses disappointment with the direction of the church, conveying the need for reform and return to true Christian values.

40:44

🥰 Appreciating the Conversation

As the conversation wraps up, the host and musician appreciate and thank each other for an open and insightful discussion.

45:51

🎤 Commitment to Keep Making Music

In closing, the musician affirms his passion for making music and using his platform for positive change, surrendered to his calling.

Keywords

💡legend

The video refers to the guest as a 'legend', establishing his status as an influential and well-known gospel musician since the 1970s. His enduring popularity over decades relates to the video's discussion of staying relevant in the music industry.

💡album

The discussion focuses on the guest's upcoming album release, including details about the recording process, promotion plans, and launch events. This ties into the theme of continuing to produce new music after over 40 years in the industry.

💡youth

The guest emphasizes the importance of reaching out to youth through his music and prayer events. This relates to using his platform and wisdom to provide guidance and support to the younger generation.

💡crime

The video explores the inspiration behind the guest's anti-crime focused songs and his firsthand exposure to violence. His music aims to raise awareness and unite communities against crime.

💡peace

In the context of rising crime rates and violence, the guest advocates for peace and unity at both national and community levels. This speaks to using music to promote social justice.

💡church

As a gospel artist, the guest references the role of church and religion several times. This ties into spirituality as a theme guiding his worldview and music.

💡struggle

The discussion touches on difficulties the guest faced during downturns in his career. Overcoming those struggles to make a comeback relates to resilience in the music industry.

💡message

The guest emphasizes that his priority is for the message and social commentary of his songs to reach wider audiences rather than commercial success. This reinforces the theme of music as a tool for awareness.

💡community

The video explores the guest's close ties with multiple communities and using his platform to give back. His music ultimately aims to empower and unite communities.

💡youth

The guest emphasizes the importance of reaching out to youth through his music and prayer events. This relates to using his platform and wisdom to provide guidance and support to the younger generation.

Highlights

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Transcripts

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not know what to say thank you for the

love thank you for the support the

channel is growing and you know what I'm

very much happy that you guys are still

with me and you saw where we started and

we still here and we going for and for

every day thank you very much

guys one and only Legend I don't know I

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believe

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speakers Pap how was it how was the

experience

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and

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discussion

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with him as a youth and who various

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very young

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person

when it comes to gospel music

awards my time of the big hit of solo

but I've never got any

anyone or in the music indust because

recently as I'm speaking the Rama City

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has not even one but

late it's not surprising really who are

who who's getting these

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so and so must get it hey papa it's

impossible Papa from 1970 something 1978

years 1978 until today

gospel

yes anything let's talk about the album

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2017 people don't know

it State capture

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promoted one of the

biggest

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based violence stop

Crime Stop child

trafficking yes it's a one of the

biggest project

but I'm

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time I've

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drugs City all over that's why stop

drugs stop Crime Stop child

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December

time H Kim one man show also book me for

performance I've been in bwana I'm in

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confirmation it's

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to I can't wait for that trans that's

why many of my fans

no I've got a very hot album to come on

the

26th and then the

pre-launch I'll be with other musicians

yes and

then National launch because when I was

ince that's a very

biggest

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police

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that police

station number three

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the answer I will come and launch day

and we organizing a very massive massive

match where I'll be inviting all

stakeholders around the community but

the problem

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to

get disturbed

because

kind my favorite song

was that one I used to love but but but

what happened and I'm still warning to

my fans

please

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with

don't undermine the police let's all

join our hands and fight

crimes 60 men and women in

blue have been killed victims been the

police

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victims but please don't listen listen

to the harmony of my music please listen

to my message you

people I've got a very serious strong

message I want to invite the minister

all all all

sa

know

invite oh

yes some

years

remember

remember track where I'm

featuring you know a 10year old boy in

2005 was met on his way to

school those kind of things then I just

want to who what is you why are you so

dedicated to Crime why are you so

dedicated to fixing crime do you have a

history that touches you that takes you

back I couldn't save myself or I

couldn't save this situation therefore I

can do

better just because just

because

and then the crime the rate of crime was

too high in South Africa especially from

2001 hoping it will change but now even

worse but the police been the

target remember

now

fure what are we expecting from

mys do you feel

offed as a gospel artist let let me tell

you

been

no

remember your drugs are not

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what is

your you

know because

but are you not oh excuse me no

so do

find whoever we can share room not that

we are

sharing whatever but just a room

together in one room do you think that

there's a problem with that there's

totally no problem remember we are all

creatures of God

yes the creator of Heaven and

Earth we

personalize M no no there no

problem no there's no

problem most of them

has been

defeated from

releasing

performance

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rotation

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telling

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pretend I don't want to

be or a visitor next next I was just

like you know feeling isolated

I had so many friends

remember is that artist who makes of the

president of the

country what was the

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this

it's not a joke I'm not trying to sell

sell myself I'm in demand I'm telling

you

yeah he I want to tell you I am no more

the solely people thing they

know I used to tell

the

I'm don't give

up don't give

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up

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I stressed I want to tell

you several

times did you try

it

it was

hard it was

hard and my

enemies those kind of

thing it was it was hard time I'm

telling you I

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point I was

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like youth know especially Tik

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Man Too Much

suicide

and looking at people like

you from being the

legend every day and night to a point

whereby you feel like everything's just

shutting down but you still made it

through you know yes

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then the school

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kind of school fund and then

because they've got nothing to do

they're just linging around the whole

street and all this you know do you see

yourself holding a big prayer just for

youth just for

youth

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a provinal

can't so will be matching together with

the

community I will also

invite the

youth to join me yeah but your

suggestion also you know give me you

know a planning I will invite them

please I'll come for prayer I'll come

we'll do it together also no we will do

it together really no joke we'll do

together we will do it together I've got

Queen Leah here my PE is just here

Prince one of who helped me to produce

this am a piano Vibe prman Peter that's

nice that's nice I can see the whole

team is here yeah the whole team is here

yeah they they here to witness you know

yeah about this program they're coming

back

the coming back of stop killing stop

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if

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would like to do I'll go and present a

memorandum res because why the reason

being I would like to

invite the Commander in Chief in fact I

would like to ask the Commander in

Chief of South afria National Defense

Force

presid

to

to

soldiers I mean people have to peace had

to live in peace there must be

unity and also Le the community they

have to unite and be one

nation since

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we'll be have some Churches

pastors musician PA Foundation have

invited various musician

all will be there so when music are you

under a certain record

label

now present Sony

music under Co Sean

Watson is releasing my

album Remember some years back

2010 CCP all was in

CCP so Universal bought the whole thing

okay but now now right now I joined Sean

Watson and why because Sean in 2002 he's

the one who was selling

the oh so you came back yeah yeah

because I know his strategy okay he

concentrate on his job he's selling like

no any advice for the

musician gopel

H to the

musician tried to be to be

patient it's a long week it's a excuse

me it's a long way to

fame yeah there are lot of

challenges social media and all

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that

they the one who make

everything

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Facebook

I just want to clarify that or each and

every person must really

understand

outside remember the church have just

been

recording the legend producer the only

one who was

doing

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I feel like

mag

if you want to do it like that you

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nice

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time I still remember

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and also a member of

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one of the top the

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today

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discovered

Legend

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download please from the 26 when you go

to Tik

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everywhere

job is to do the relevant

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happen I make a tribute song

a freedom fighter yes that man who

fought for our

struggle

because is a member of the worker

struggle fighting for the rights of the

worker through my

music so going on from now on after ALB

expect

ALB I'm waiting let me tell you I'm

waiting for my keyboard

Mr

William I want to start

programing or you want to know my title

of the C because I have to release that

album March okay after this

one by March it must be released

according

[Laughter]

to

[Laughter]

there's a lot going

on mentally and

then do you think

I was

selling I'm a h I'm a street ventor what

again added to be recognized in major

record companies so many people were

sporting me

I remember when I was invited by

sport but it worked because so many

musician

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espe remember the lead Pap introduced K

when Paulo Paulo is a keist the man who

who programmed the first album yeah Will

saying he was the one who came to me at

first before all saying released the

biggest

thing I introduced him to cool sport

because my name was big because of my

very massive

big it was

Mr I should have

yeah too much man h

M you know some sometimes to have love

too much you relax and some people are

taking

advantage that's

deep so you learned not to trust not to

trust anyone but someone would like to

reach to his or her destination but

using that or excuse me or next and

anything

but anyhow to South

Africans the

album IM thank you I am coming 26 and

you are back with a B I'm

with

okay okay

okay

I don't know that

one keep on waiting I'll be

doing but I think I did

much

to really appreciate because it will

influence the youth to come on God now

what Papa i' would like to thank you I

enjoyed this interview cuz I I had to

see H that on a different level yes you

know and he is there now yeah since we

have eded

Pi you honored the invite for you being

here you don't know how much it means to

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me

that who dance with the

president former

president High than me pres Jacob

Su so everything will go well thank

you

[Laughter]

at the right time whereby a lot is

happening and I feel like yeah yo I

don't want to P anymore

and can you come back

again like I feel

like

we still plus we still a youth only 2000

still very young so I felt like it was a

lot too much too

much I know a problem

is

it's your

calling

yeah there's nothing wrong that you do

and you must believe it work

hard who told

you have go

chur

when so many times

but okay I'm

with I'm calling

nationwide make a urn on a freeway too

much confusion too

much right

now it's my time now to Ser my

mandate there if there's no service

deliver tell the president president

service deer I'll tell him

straight I've summarized everything

which have been taking place

Commissioners

Justice What's happen in the church a

lot in fact this what actually

embarrassed

Christ when he was coming from a certain

Feast you know then he visited one of

the church you know

whereby a distance before he arrived he

could hear that there was so too many

sound what's

happening in the

church irrelevant to

what where they supposed to deliver yeah

he just took a shamb and spank everyone

from the bishop to the top they all ran

away he could

not

M I surrender to

you acceptable no I can't thank you very

much thank you for

coming thank you I appreciate you very

much

[Laughter]

thank you thank you very much thank you

thank

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you