Charlamagne Tha God Tells Piers Morgan He Thinks Donald Trump Will Win Election

Piers Morgan Uncensored
19 Jan 202431:49

Summary

TLDRThe transcript covers an uncensored political discussion between TV host Piers Morgan and guests in New York. Topics include concerns over President Biden's fitness for office due to his age and declining cognitive abilities. There is debate over whether Biden can beat Trump in 2024, with guests split on who would win that matchup. Controversies around Trump are discussed, including January 6th and his anti-democratic rhetoric. Overall, there is uncertainty over the 2024 election with guests seeing weaknesses in both Biden and Trump.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ“ Piers Morgan highlights the global significance of the US presidency, emphasizing its power over the world's largest military and economy.
  • ๐Ÿ˜ฎ Concerns are raised about President Biden's fitness for office due to his age and visible decline, questioning his ability to effectively lead.
  • ๐Ÿ‘ช The script mentions efforts to jumpstart Biden's 2024 reelection campaign, with key figures like VP Kamala Harris actively participating.
  • ๐Ÿ™„ Public and comedic concern over Biden's physical and verbal stumbles are discussed, pointing to a broader worry about his capabilities.
  • ๐Ÿ‘ Donald Trump's vigor and showmanship contrasted against Biden's perceived lack of energy, suggesting Trump's age hasn't dimmed his political dynamism.
  • ๐Ÿ–ฅ A significant portion of Americans, across political lines, reportedly believe Biden is too old to effectively run the country.
  • ๐Ÿ“Š Biden's low approval ratings and the shifting political allegiances of various demographic groups, including Hispanic and black voters, are highlighted.
  • ๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ’ป Dean Phillips, a Democratic presidential candidate, presents himself as an alternative to Biden, emphasizing a need for new leadership and bipartisanship.
  • ๐Ÿ”ฅ The script touches on the polarized nature of US politics and the potential for a Trump vs. Biden rematch, with concerns about democracy at stake.
  • ๐Ÿšซ The discussion includes critical views on Trump's rhetoric and actions, including his claims about the 2020 election and the January 6 Capitol riot.

Q & A

  • What are some of the key points made about President Biden's age and fitness to serve as president?

    -The transcript highlights concerns about Biden's age (81) and declining cognitive abilities. It suggests he seems unfit to serve, noting his frequent verbal stumbles, physical stumbles, and instances of confusion. There are doubts raised about his 'vigor' and ability to properly function in the role.

  • What are some of the poll numbers and statistics mentioned regarding Biden's popularity?

    -The transcript states Biden currently has the lowest approval ratings of any president in American history. It cites polls showing 60% of Americans believe he is too old to run the country, and 77% believe he has mismanaged the crisis at the southern border.

  • How is Trump characterized in contrast to Biden?

    -The transcript describes Trump as exuding 'vim and vigor' and having a 'diet-defying swagger.' It suggests he seems cognitively sharper and more energetic than Biden despite also being in his 70s.

  • What does the transcript say about Biden's chances in 2024 if he runs again?

    -The transcript suggests Biden would likely lose to Trump if they face off again in 2024. It says no incumbent president with approval ratings as low as Biden's in their low 30s has ever been re-elected.

  • What does Dean Phillips suggest Democrats should do regarding Biden in 2024?

    -Phillips believes Democrats should choose a new candidate in 2024 rather than just coronate Biden again. He argues a younger, more energetic candidate like himself would have a better chance against Trump.

  • How does the transcript characterize the January 6th events?

    -It describes the events as an 'attempted coup' in which thousands of people whipped into a frenzy stormed the Capitol trying to stop the democratic process and take control.

  • What are some of Trump's concerning dictatorial comments mentioned?

    -The transcript highlights Trump's Truth Social post saying the president needs 'total immunity' and his comment that he wants to be a 'dictator for a day.' It raises alarm over these undemocratic statements.

  • What point does Jamie Dimon make that the hosts see as valid?

    -Dimon argues that dismissing all Trump supporters as 'crazies' misses the real economic and policy reasons many voted for him, which should be understood.

  • How does the transcript portray the current political climate?

    -It describes the current US political climate as extremely polarized, with anger and division being stoked on both sides.

  • What does Charlamagne the God say many people want regardless of party?

    -He says most people want economic opportunity and upward mobility, suggesting a focus on kitchen table issues could appeal across party lines.

Outlines

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๐Ÿ˜• Biden's visible decline raises concerns over his fitness for office

Paragraph 1 discusses Biden's advanced age of 81 and visible signs of decline, including verbal and physical stumbles. It states he looks increasingly unfit for office, raising concerns over his ability to serve. His reelection campaign is transitioning, with VP Harris and First Lady Jill Biden being sent out to campaign.

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๐Ÿ˜ฎ Media coverage and campaign problems hurting Biden

Paragraph 2 acknowledges problems with media coverage focusing on negatives and the Biden campaign's lack of visible ground game. But it cites polls showing Biden competitively positioned and economic optimism suggesting he could recover.

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๐Ÿ‘ Trump's attempted coup fuels his support among Republicans

Paragraph 3 states the criminal charges against Trump have fueled his victimhood narrative and support among Republicans. Attempts to bar him from ballots are seen as undemocratic.

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๐Ÿ˜ก The January 6th attack was an attempted coup

Paragraph 4 strongly argues the January 6th attack was an attempted coup, citing zip ties, plans to hang Pence, going after ballots, and Trump's delayed calls to stand down. It refutes claims it wasn't serious.

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๐Ÿ˜ Biden-Harris ticket may not be winnable

Paragraph 5 questions whether the Biden-Harris ticket can win given Biden's age and poll numbers. It cites the need for Democrats to have a sense of urgency to preserve democracy.

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๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐ŸŽ“ Economic mobility most important issue for young Black voters

Paragraph 6 states young Black voters want both Biden and Trump gone. They prioritize economic mobility and relief reaching marginalized communities.

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๐Ÿ˜จ Trump's threat to democracy most worrying

Paragraph 7 identifies Trump's threats to democracy and disrespect for the Constitution as most worrying for a second term. But it questions Biden's ability to defeat him.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กpresident

The president refers to the President of the United States, who is the head of state and head of government of the US. The video discusses both current President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump in detail, analyzing Biden's fitness for office and reelection prospects as well as Trump's continued influence over the Republican party and chances of winning again in 2024.

๐Ÿ’กage

The age of President Biden, who is currently 81 years old, is a major theme discussed in the video. His advanced age leads to questions and concerns over his cognitive abilities, health, vigor, and ultimately his capacity to effectively govern and run for reelection.

๐Ÿ’กreelection

Biden's chances of being reelected in 2024 are analyzed extensively in the video, with most panelists seeming to believe his current unpopularity and other issues make reelection unlikely.

๐Ÿ’กTrump

Former President Donald Trump still holds major influence over the Republican party and is considered likely to be their nominee for president in 2024. The video discusses his continued popularity among Republicans.

๐Ÿ’กdemocracy

There is much discussion around threats to American democracy, particularly in relation to the January 6th attacks on the Capitol which Trump is accused of inciting. Restoring faith in democratic values and institutions is seen as an important issue.

๐Ÿ’กeconomy

The economy is cited as a top issue for many voters in determining who they want to be president. Trump is seen as having had economic successes during his presidency, while voters have become dissatisfied with the economy under Biden.

๐Ÿ’กpolarization

The extreme political polarization between Republicans and Democrats is mentioned frequently, making bipartisan cooperation difficult and contributing to political dysfunction.

๐Ÿ’กimmigration

Issues related to immigration policy, such as security along the southern border, are seen as priorities for many voters dissatisfied with the Biden administration's policies.

๐Ÿ’กpolls

Biden's record-low approval ratings in polls and poor polling in battleground states is seen as a major obstacle to his reelection chances.

๐Ÿ’กcandidacy

Much of the discussion focuses on the perceived weaknesses or strengths of Biden's and Trump's candidacy for president in 2024, and whether other candidates like Nikki Haley or Dean Phillips could possibly replace them.

Highlights

Biden looks increasingly unfit for service and his reelection campaign is transitioning to Kamala Harris and Jill Biden.

77% of Americans believe Biden is too old to run the country.

Trump has lost every election except 2016. He's a loser.

January 6th was an attempted coup by the president of the United States.

Biden's ground game is not visible and he needs to be more visible.

Biden's problem is clear senility, not his age.

Trump wants to be a dictator and doesn't respect the Constitution.

If Democrats nominate Biden, he will lose to Trump.

Phillips would have a bipartisan cabinet, youth cabinet, and attack affordability.

Most people want Trump and Biden to step aside for new candidates.

Ridiculing all Trump supporters is wrong.

The threat to democracy with Trump is worrying.

Trump's economy before COVID was booming.

Biden has better economic records than Trump so far.

Trump would likely beat Biden if election held today.

Transcripts

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good evening from New York welcome to PE

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Morgan uncensored whether we monarchist

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Brits like to admit it or not the

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president of the United States is the

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single most important person in the

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world commanding the world's mest

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military and holding the perrings of its

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biggest economy the president could end

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Israel's war in Gaza with a phone call

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or decide if Ukraine gets the backing it

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needs to beat Putin at least that's the

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general idea but the current Commander

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in Chief is 81 seemingly going on 181 of

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a lifetime of distinguished public

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service as a pragmatic politician and in

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my view a thoroughly decent human being

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President Biden looks increasingly unfit

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for service and with the president

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invisible decline his reelection

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campaign is well transitioning you might

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say it pronouns are changing before our

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very eyes the two most important women

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in President Biden's life have been sent

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out to jump start the 2024 race wildly

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unpopular VP carela Harris said this

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we've got 10 months to go until the

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election M and increasingly and you've

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seen it even just this week um we are

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all starting to narrow in on what this

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election will mean yeah and it's going

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to be the choice

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between what is about respecting our

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democracy what is about competence

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versus

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chaos well the vice president is Right

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competence is crucially important but

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her own boss has trouble getting up the

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stairs and csing to find a way off a

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stage his frequent verbal and physical

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stumbles are the subject to both comedy

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and concern most people responded with

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laughter and derision for example when

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first lady Jill Biden said this about

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him I see Joe every day I see him out

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you know traveling around this country I

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see his Vigor I see his energy to those

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who say I can't vote for Joe Biden he's

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too old what do you say I say his age is

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an

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asset H energy and vigor not quite what

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I'm seeing you can make a plausible case

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for the wise old Statesman with a firm

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hand on the tiller but campaigning on

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Biden's Vigor May well FastTrack Donald

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Trump who does have a lot of vigor to

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the White House Now 77 Trump's no spring

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chicken himself but with his diet

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defying Swagger and Showmanship most

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people on his side seem to be believing

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him when he says things like this I feel

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like I'm about 35 years old I actually

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feel better now than I did 30 years ago

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tell me is that crazy I feel better now

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and I think cognitively I'm better than

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I was 20 years ago I don't know

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why that is a slightly more debatable

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subject Mr Trump but a whopping 77% of

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Americans both Republican and Democrats

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believe that Biden is simply too old to

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run the country almost 70% think he's

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mismanaged the crisis at the southern

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border there 133% say they're

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financially better off on his watch a

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this stage of his term he's the least

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popular US president in recorded history

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and this stuff matters us politics is

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Inc almost hysterically polarized to the

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rest of us outside America but most

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voters are in fact ready to be persuaded

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white working-class voters ditched the

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Democrats to propel Trump to office in

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2016 now more and more Hispanic and

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black voters are shifting Republican too

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Biden says he's the only man who's ever

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beaten Trump and that's true but right

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now he may be the only one who can lose

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to Trump in November well I'm joined by

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my Super PAC here in the studio New York

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co-host of The Breakfast Club

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Charlamagne the God host of the Rubin

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report Dave Rubin I'm a Democrat

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strategist and Fox News contributor

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Jessica tof who I could hear her lips

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pursing as I read that mon loud I could

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feel them person I appreciate though I

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saw you tempered it a bit whoever put it

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in the pror was harsher than you were I

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could feel the pursing I was raining

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back in real time um let me start with

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you Jessica because I like Joe Biden

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personally I think he's got a lot of

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very admirable qualities as a human

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being and his own story you know the

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fact he lost loost his wife and a baby

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when he was just a senator he then lost

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another son anyone that can do that and

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still do the job he's doing will always

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have my admiration but there is no doubt

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he is in real trouble here is there any

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doubt I mean can you paint a picture

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that isn't as Grim as the one I painted

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oh I definitely can do that and I've

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been preparing for three and a half

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minutes to get chance I I'm not going to

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start by denying that the age factor is

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massive in all of this and I think that

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people's concerns as well about KLA

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Harris and her Readiness to take over

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informs that if there was a hugely

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popular vice president kind of waiting

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in the wings I think things might feel a

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bit different for people but 81 is 81

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there are some 81 year olds we all watch

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Warren Buffett right MC jagu is 80 yes

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nearly 81 he would have a different kind

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of agenda for the country but yes he

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does that be quite a popular one yeah

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that would be pretty I wouldn't hate it

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um but there is a problem going on right

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now with media coverage

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of the Biden presidency and there are

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problems with the Biden campaign what

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are the problems so I'll start with

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media coverage everybody knows now that

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you want to print stories that get

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clicks and negative stories are the ones

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that do with it even people who are huge

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supporters of the president focus on all

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the polls that are negative most people

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wouldn't know that if you went to the

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real clear politics homepage and clicked

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on polls the average has Joe Biden down

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just one percentage point to Trump you

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would think that he was getting trounced

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you look at swing state polls and you'd

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see that in a lot of the Swing States

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like Pennsylvania for instance which is

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going to be a huge deal he's up

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massively we only talked about the fact

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that he was down in one Michigan poll

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last week in terms of the economic news

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The Wall Street Journal our very own

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Wall Street Journal here at newscorp um

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had a hugely optimistic set of

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editorials out there 62% of Americans

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think the next year so 2024 election

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year is going to be better for them when

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are they going to go and vote in

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November that's a lot of time for this

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economic recovery to really settle in

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for people but no one wants to talk

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about that it's not popular it's not

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good clickbait the second part about the

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campaign and this is where I think the

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Obama folks who have been perhaps too

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publicly critical I think of the Biden

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campaign their ground game is not

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visible to folks they don't feel like

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they're there in Nevada in Arizona in

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Georgia in these states that we

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desperately need to win and they are

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working on that and I think that the

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president himself needs to be more

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visible I if I was working in the white

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house I would have him out there all the

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time I understand you might be resing

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stumble I wouldn't I do what they did

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with him last time I keep him keep him

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in a dungeon I mean look here's the

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thing I think the problem it's not

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excuse me it's not his age I think that

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Joe Biden's problem is the clear

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senility yeah was going with his age

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like I said I met mck Jagger last summer

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absolutely bursting with the vi and

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vigor that Jill wants us to believe she

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sees it go look Piers do any of us

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sitting at this table or anyone watching

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this think that he could run one shift

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at McDonald's and I don't mean that as a

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shot for someone that works at

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McDonald's

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there but but I don't think he could I

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think a lot of senior citizens could

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because I don't think it's an age thing

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I agree with you it's it's a cognitive D

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J Collins at the Emmys stole the show

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he's 90 years old good friend of mine

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she looks about 50 and she has the

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mental acuity of a 50-year old she has

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vim and vigor so I Jill Biden is right

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to say it's about VI and vigor but her

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husband doesn't exude it well look let's

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put it this way you opened by saying

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something about ailing Joe Biden and I

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thought oh I haven't looked at my phone

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in 20 minutes did something it's a

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general aing it's ailing yes we all know

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it the wandering off when they put get

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him off the plane and the confusion he

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literally on camera last what was it two

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years ago said let's go let's go Brandon

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like something is not right we all know

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it and I would say respectfully in terms

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of the polls and everything people don't

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vote on what really matters we vote on

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what we can

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right and I think because of people are

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going Donald Trump he seems back there's

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energy there and there's just no energy

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with nobody nobody likes Kamala that's

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but Trump has lost every election except

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2016 I mean he's loser and yeah right

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right to the point the Democrats decided

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to finish him off with 91 criminal

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charges and thought this will do him

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he's down he's wounded and and it's had

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the complete opposite effect he has used

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that to the Marty the victim it has

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fueled a resurgent trump and you cannot

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deny I mean I've seen people try to

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downplay what happened to Iowa but if

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that have been Joe Biden who'd done that

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at Iowa you'd be saying this is

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unbelievable it's a landslide it's

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amazing he's killing them right Trump is

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back and I think will definitely be the

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nominee regard unless there some

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extraordinary Twist of events he's

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exuding the air of someone on a mission

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he's got vim and vigor and whether you

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love him or hate him and it's equal

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doses with Trump you got to say hey

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Trump V Biden in November I could see

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Trump winning that is there anything

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about Iowa that makes you say maybe uh

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Republicans should pivot and go to

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somebody like a Nikki Haley maybe like

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when you see that she picks up you know

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a lot of Democrats a lot of Independents

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you think that they're doing themselves

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a disservice by maybe not getting behind

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her because you know the GOP is going to

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fall in line and she's somebody who

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seems like they can pick up votes from

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from both sides yeah I mean but you

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yourself you made news by talking about

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the vi Vigor claimed by Joe Biden didn't

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you I mean you're yeah I don't see the

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vi you're not whatever VI Vigor whatever

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it is yeah and I had I had a great time

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on your breakfast club show yesterday

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and it was it was really enlightening

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conversation we had but you know it's

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not that I like you said to you are you

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telling people to vote Trump no it's not

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for me to tell people how to vote in

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this country and I've been very critical

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of trump in the last since certainly

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over all the whole the stolen election

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nonsense the January 6th thing I wasn't

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buying into any of that and in a way I

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felt that was disqualifying but we are

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where we are it didn't disqualify him he

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could actually go to prison and still be

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president of the United States

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constitutionally so we're into

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completely Uncharted Territory all I do

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feel is the more the Democrats have

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tried to kill him off particularly with

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all these criminal charges the more that

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even Republicans that don't like him

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have gone you know what it is a Witch

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Hunt the Liberals are trying to nail

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this guy is one of us we're going to

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back him and so it's been self-defeating

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MH a bit like the Russian collusion

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thing yeah I I agree with that and I

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think the interesting thing is if you're

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going to use language like you know this

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is going to be the end of democracy as

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we know it then there needs to be a

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sense of urgency like you said when is

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the ground game going to start why is

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the ground came just starting now if

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it's going to be you know the end of

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democracy and I think that's what scares

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people too if if we see the the clearing

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to me anyway to clear and present danger

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that could be a second Trump presidency

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is the Biden Harris ticket a winnable

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ticket I'm a person who voted for Joe

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Biden in 2020 so I don't think it's

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anything wrong with asking that question

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you think it's a winable ticket tick I

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don't know when I look at the polls I

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don't think so you know I think that uh

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a 60 plus year old no incumbent

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president with this poll rating that

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Biden's currently at in the low 30s has

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ever been reelected yeah I don't I don't

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I mean yeah when I look at it I don't

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think so me you never know you can you

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can say it's 50/50 but I think a 60 plus

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year old Joe Biden you know with the

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things he's done as far as like you know

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the infrastructure Bill even even the

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student loan forgiveness you know the

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way the economy is now I think a 60

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something year old Joe Biden Jo he also

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said to you he also said to you on your

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show which again headlines make a lot of

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headlines jealous um but he said if

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you're black and you don't vote for me

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you're not black he meant it was a joke

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but what did you think when he said that

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was that was that a sense of entitlement

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a bit of arrogance about the

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African-American vote I think that you

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know he has too many uh black friends

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around him and they made him feel

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comfortable enough to make that joke I

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feel like he probably had a bunch of

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black people around him who have said

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that exact language cuz when they say

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that they're saying that hey if you vote

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for Trump you're literally voting you

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know against your own interest as a

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black person and I think he's heard that

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a bunch of times so he thought that that

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would been a nice little let me ask you

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a specific thing Dave about this right

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so Trump this is where I have a problem

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with Trump every time I sort of you know

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I he makes me laugh right he just does

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when he said that thing on the eve of

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Iowa that even if it kills you come out

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and

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vote world yeah but watching watching po

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liberals lose their mind when he does

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that stuff makes me chuckle right I I've

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seen myself as pretty down the middle

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but I just think I think he's funny and

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he's and he can make people laugh but

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when he says this I don't laugh right he

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said the president of the United States

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on Truth social yesterday president of

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the United States must have full

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immunity without which it would be

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impossible for him her to properly

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function any mistake even if well-

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intended would be met with almost

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certain indictment by the opposing body

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at ter men for even events that cross

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the line must fall under total immunity

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I so I so I tweeted so if President

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Biden orders the immediate assassination

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of you Donald Trump that's okay is it

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that's covered what you're explaining is

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the true magic of Donald Trump whether

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you love his policies or not because on

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one hand you're going well there are

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certain lines when he pokes fun at the

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but he means this no no so but so your

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line now is he put it in quotes crosses

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the line I can tell I can tell when I

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can tell when he's laughing and joking

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So You Think You think when he says

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cross the line what he meant was I can

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take out Joe Biden president no no that

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was me suggesting that that's where you

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take the argument but what do you think

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he means I think would kill one ofal OPP

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or get could I think he's actually as

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always with Trump his self-interest he

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wants to basically make sure he can't he

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means Jack Smith go home yeah that's

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what he means and he's and if the cor

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alary is my political opponent could

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kill someone he then wants to talk about

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2016 when we all ran around and said you

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know he could shoot someone in the

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middle of Fifth Avenue and and his

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supporters wouldn't care by this by this

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new criteria he could do that and get

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away with it right well I think there

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are some legal questions as per what a

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president is allowed to get away with

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and not be but I'm pretty murder is not

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one of them like outright

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Mur he would like it to be he would like

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anything that crosses the line to fall

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under total immunity the man has open

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agulation for XI Jin for Kim Jong-un he

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he's a wannabe dictator and I don't you

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know I've been at Fox News my entire

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media career I do not fancy myself an

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MSNBC type person who wants to lose

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their mind about those things but that

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is very serious to have someone who was

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the leader of the Free World and is

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running to be it again to believe that

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these people who are athma to democracy

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are doing it right what do she feel and

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also to though we're acting like you

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know it's not just rhetoric yes he said

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he want to be a dictator for a day yes

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he said you know he should be immune

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from killing you know immune from

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killing his political Rivals but he also

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attempted a CO with his country guys

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right like why are we acting like that

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did not happen why we keep acting like

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January since did not happen I mean it

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didn't happen I mean what that a bunch

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of people showed up with no plans no

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weapons I mean I'm not defending the

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people that actually broke windows or

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anything else but there was no coup

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there was no that was attemped coup this

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country I got eyes and ears I'm not a

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political expert was plan was there a

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plan did anyone have a piece of paper

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that said croud boys had a plan and they

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were invited into the White House there

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were people with zip ties that's not a

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casual thing that you walk around with

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I'm not they went after the valid Bo

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they were talking about hanging there

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were a thousand there were only a 100

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bad ones let's say that doesn't mean

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that it wasn't an attempted CP f by the

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president of the United States of

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America I mean does anyone honestly

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think that Donald Trump thought that the

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next day he would be president you know

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post transition B potential trans B does

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which is why he finally had to go there

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are people I mean what was so powerful

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about the January 6 committee and what

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they were able to put together is the

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fact that they used almost exclusively

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Republican testimony people who had

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worked for him I mean look at the text

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messages from his own son to Mark

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Meadows or what aanka

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had to be honest about when she

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testified or Jared Kushner or Cassidy

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Hutchinson who they're going after now I

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mean he made a mockery of our system and

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frankly me it speaks to the strength of

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our institutions and the backbone of

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Mike Pence for that eight hours that he

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was able to I thought it was a pretty I

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got to say it was a pretty terrifying

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spect I'm sure watching it abroad you

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thought what the hell is going on I

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remember emailing one of his team and

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saying what you've got to get him out

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there and call this thing off and he

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didn't for a long period of time while

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this Mayhem was erupting you can dress

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it anywh you like you can spin it

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anywhere you like to thousands of people

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whipped up into a mindset of we have to

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stop this Democratic action happening

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stormed into the epicenter of American

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politics and they tried to take control

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and in their eyes stop democracy

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happening now the LI the liberal

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response by the way which is to Classic

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liberal response which is completely

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halfast which to say right let's take

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him off the ballot now in loads of

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different states is obviously

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stupid you don't try and stop a guy you

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think has tried to thwart democracy by

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thwarting democracy can I tell say two

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things one Charlamagne brought up a

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point that I wanted to add on to that's

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really important about the vien Vigor

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right so Donald Trump I don't think that

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he's going to trip and fall and die

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tomorrow but when people do see him he's

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talking absolute rubbish he's he's done

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that for 50 years

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but people I I agree I and I didn't even

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like his shows when it was on regular TV

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but my

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point come on the 2008 Celebrity

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Apprentice was the stuff of

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Masterpiece but the kind of

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communication that he's putting out

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there he's even in the last 48 hours we

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went from II I was there I was on air

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and I said this is a big accomplishment

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for him he's being consilio how long

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will it last then we got to immigrants

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are poisoning the blood of America then

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defaming a woman who he's been charged

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they found him guilty of sexually

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assaulting her he continues with that

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he's talking about how magnets work in

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water you know using ID to buy a loaf of

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bread it's not like people who are at

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home are saying this guy's got it

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together and this guy doesn't you know

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what is you know what we're gonna come

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back I'm going to talk after the break

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to De Phillips and keep you guys here to

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react to that but also want to talk

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about what Jamie Diamond said which I

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thought was really interesting when he

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said that if you call everyone who a

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Maga supporter a supporter of trump if

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you call them a bunch of crazies then

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you are completely missing the point why

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most of them actually want to vote for

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Trump which is economy foreign policy uh

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the Border all these things which he was

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strong on last time he said that's why

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they want him back because they feel

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they've been let down on that by Biden

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we'll talk about that after the break uh

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stay with me un sensored next more from

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my New York super B I'll be joined by

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the Democratic presidential candidate

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who wants Joe Biden to stand aside he's

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Minnesota Congressman Dean Phillips and

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he'll be here live in a couple of

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minutes welcome back to PEB uncensored

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live from New York City Democrats are

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privately threatening about President

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Biden's disastrous polling in the race

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for the White House very few of them are

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prepared to say it out loud only one

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elected Democrat has been bold enough to

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run against the incumbent president and

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US Representative Dean Phillips is that

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man and joins me now Mr Phillips thank

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you for joining me I guess the first

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question for the global audience is who

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are you and why do you want to be

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president

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who am I and why do I want to be

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president well I'll tell you my quick

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story I lost my father in the Vietnam

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War he was a soldier who served his

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country and gave his life to our country

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uh I got very lucky three years later my

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mom remarried I was adopted into a

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remarkable family uh one of many

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blessings uh including business

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philanthropy my grandmother was the

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advice columnist Dear Abby uh entered

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our family business built Bader vodka

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then sold that built tente gelato the

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ice cream brand and Piers I woke up the

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morning after the 2016 election I found

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my youngest daughter in her bedroom in

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tears and I recognize life has changed

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in America and around the world I

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promised them my two daughters I would

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do something I ran for congress I

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flipped a district that had not elected

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a Democrat since 1958 and I beat an

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incumbent by who had won by 14 points I

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beat him by 12 and I got to the US

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Congress in 2019 and found an

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unmitigated dysfunctional disaster that

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is easily fixed with good leadership

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peers and you ask why I'm running for

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president well the overwhelming

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exhausted majority of Americans center

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right center left Americans Common Sense

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people are tired of this they want to

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turn the page from both Trump and Biden

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and I tell you I tried to get the

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president to pass the torch I called

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other candidates who are better known

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than me none of them would do it so I

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thought it was time for courage my

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father gave his life to this country and

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I entered the race because if not now

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when and if not me who and I got to tell

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you pierce it is a joyful journey and

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Americans are not as divided as anger

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tainment would have us believe and I'm

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going to make change in a common sense

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decent way that engages Democrats and

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Republicans and moves Beyond dangerous

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nonsense well everything you say makes

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perfect sense except this Joe Biden if

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he doesn't Stand Down will be the

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nominee now twice in post second world

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war history there has been an incumbent

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Democrat president who has done that you

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know Lyndon Johnson did it and there was

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another president who did it um they

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stood down and didn't go forward but if

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Joe Biden doesn't do that voluntarily

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you have no way

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in well appears I don't I don't I don't

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buy into that I'll tell you I've spent

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my life my professional life disrupting

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uh businesses and categories trying to

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disrupt the US Congress that is in

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desperate need of it and that's why I'm

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doing this again as long as American

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voters actually get out and vote in the

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primary anything is possible Joe Biden's

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not a bad man he's a good man but he's

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81 years old he's facing the lowest

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approval numbers in American

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presidential history every poll he's

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losing including the Battleground States

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and even you know Charlemagne the God

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who was just on with you moments ago and

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I was on The Breakfast Club just about a

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week ago uh he's speaking the truth too

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saying the quiet part out loud he's not

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electable so Democrats will have a

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choice Piers sometime soon to either go

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and coronate a candidate who is going to

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lose or go with hope and optimism and a

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brighter future with a candidate me

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who's 54 years old and able willing

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competent and ready to combine the very

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best of center right center left

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thinking in America and stop the

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nonsense and win that's the choice of

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American voters and we got to practice

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democracy not just talk about it all

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right look you haven't got much time

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give me three things you would do if you

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were president tomorrow top priorities

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oh let me start with let me let me talk

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about executive leadership I will have a

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bipartisan cabinet of the best and

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brightest Americans Democrats and

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Republicans I will have a youth cabinet

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I will employ zerob based budgeting I

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will actually manage our federal

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government in a fiscally responsible

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manner uh I will address the southern

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border which is an unmitigated

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mess and disaster inhumane horrible for

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our economy and our International

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reputation and we have must reform our

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Asylum policies and then I will do what

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is most important for Americans right

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now costs and Chaos are out of control

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life is unaffordable 60% of Americans

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living paycheck to paycheck 40% cannot

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afford a $400 emergency we've got to

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attack affordability we've got to end

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the chaos not just in the United States

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but all around the world end the wars

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invest in peace and bring the country

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together and do our best to bring this

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world together before it's too late

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piers and that's going to take all of us

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and by the way as some have noted Jamie

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Diamond about Biden condemning all Trump

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supporters I welcome and invite Trump

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supporters I love everybody as long as

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you are people of principal and decency

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and want to work together peers we got

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to change this nonsense the two parties

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are the problem and I'm running for

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change and I don't mind that disruption

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because I think most people want it well

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it's good of you to uh join me Mr

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Phillips I would personally say you

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probably have two hopes of succeeding no

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hope and Bob Hope but I do admire the

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aspiration and I actually like the cut

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of your jib as well so you never know in

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politics right hey you never know you

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got to give it a shot and by the way

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mark my words watch here in New

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Hampshire on January 23rd just four days

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from now you might be

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surprised I I look forward to it I would

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love to be surprised Dean Phillips thank

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you very much and for joining me

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Charlamagne you got what a Optimist you

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are you know what I am I'm I'm an

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optimist tinge with being a realist

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right you got to be real about this I

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don't think Joe Biden has shown any

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indication of wanting to stand down at

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all unless he voluntarily does that is

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persuaded to he is going to be the

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nominee right and for someone like you

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um you've become with your show various

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shows but The Breakfast Club in

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particular has this extraordinary number

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of young black people who tune in

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religiously to listen to it to watch it

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and to think what do they want what do

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they want from their president I they

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got two elderly white guys right running

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for president this is not an Obama 20089

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scenario what do they want to happen

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here well when you talk about it in

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those terms number one they want both of

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them to step out the way they want the

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GOP to move away from Trump they want

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you know Democrats to move away from bid

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but I don't care who you talk to most

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folks you speak to want upward Mobility

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like it's all about money like that's

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the conversation that they should be

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having when they're having conversations

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about you know creating jobs when

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they're having conversations about the

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economy being better that's great but is

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it trickling down to the least of us you

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know is it trickling down to the hood is

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it trickling down to the rural areas

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rural areas like where I'm from in Mons

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Corner South Carolina if those people

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aren't feeling the relief then you know

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they feel like you know what you're

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doing isn't isn't necessarily what does

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you feel about Jamie Diamond who says

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that you know if you if you just

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ridicule and mock the magga crowd the

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the really hardcore Trump supporters

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it's wrong that you should respect all

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Americans right they're entitled to

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their opinion entitled to vote for who

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they want to vote for I mean I thought

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he had a point he also a point that if

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you just over demonize Trump I think I

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said on on your show I met Chris Rock

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after the 2016 election the next day and

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he said is someone's murdered eight

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people don't go around saying he's

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murdered nine about Trump in other words

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you just exaggerate how bad he is it

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people are going to find out see that

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was 2016 I think in 2024 like we kind of

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see what a trump presidency is is like

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and how bad it could potentially be what

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are you most worried about with him uh

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I'm worried about you know uh the threat

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to democracy seriously because when you

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hear guys say hey we should get rid of

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the constitution in order to overturn

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the results of election like when you

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hear a guy say you hear his lawyers in

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court say well he never agreed to uh

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support the Constitution it's like whoa

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I don't care if you're Democrat

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Republican black white gay straight if

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you're an American citizen you cannot

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have a leader of the Free World who does

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not respect the Constitution Dave you

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can't have someone who doesn't respect

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the Constitution country well first off

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the beauty of America and our system and

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the Constitution and the rest of our

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founding documents is that they work and

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we've separated enough so that guys like

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Donald Trump potentially if he wanted to

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be dictator it's not that you just flip

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a switch and suddenly you're dictator

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not using the 14 well hold on a second I

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would also say that if you look at the

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actual reality of Trump's presidency

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preco the economy was booming we had the

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Abraham Accords lowest all-time black

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unemployment lowest alltime Latino

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unemployment and you may remember at the

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State of the Union when he mentioned

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that and AOC and the rest of the

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Congressional Black poet sat there like

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this I thought they would have been for

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low black employment so Trump has done a

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lot of things right and I'm saying this

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as somebody that wasn't even supporting

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him three days ago I mean I'm a disantis

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guy I moved to Florida because J diamond

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to be look to be clear he's not a big

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Trump supporter he's locked he's locked

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horns with Trump a few times he's

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donated to the Democrats right it's not

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and Trump has rubbished him in public

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about doing business in China so it's

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not like he's a dieh hard Trumper

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himself he just made the point which I

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think is right which is if you just

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abuse everyone that votes for him you

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are basically committ an act of self

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harm what I would recommend anyone do as

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this election keeps going is as the

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rallies start again and I did not vote

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for Trump in 2016 I did vote for him the

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first time but one of the uh the second

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time and one of the reasons that I ended

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up doing it was one day in La I happened

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to drive by a rally and I was like you

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know what let me just go in there and

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see what's going on and there were black

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people and there were Latinos and gays

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for Trump and it was a joyfest it was a

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party American flags everywhere it

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wasn't some coalesced idea of let's take

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out democracy or out the Marxist or

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anything else it was basically kind of

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like an Fu to the system and and then

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just this mix of politics I mean that's

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the Jessica were you at this party he's

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talking

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about I wasn't invited there were gays

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blacks Latinos but no liberals what did

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you think what did you think were an

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awful lot of liberal there were four

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Bernie Sanders voters who probably

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didn't turn up what did you think of

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Jamie Diamond's comment because they

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were I think Jamie Diamond runs a huge

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international business and you can see a

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a Line in the Sand with how people who

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don't want to lose customers talk about

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all of this and they have to do it that

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way and that's correct but as someone

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who spends my time in conservative media

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with people who vehemently disagree with

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me I'm I've had it up to here if I could

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clutch my pearls any harder you know

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whatever it is they try to say that

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liberals talk the same way about

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conservatives that conservatives talk

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about liberals if Donald Trump wins the

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presidency again you will have a

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president who calls more than half the

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country 81 million voted for Joe Biden

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74 million for Trump calls us thugs

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pedophiles Communists marxists

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anti-americans traitors I I'm not being

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welcomed into any sort of I have a

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question I have a question for you which

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I asked Charlamagne yesterday how many

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uh

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immigrants did Barack Obama Deport in

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eight years he's the deporter and- chief

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and I've

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said milon 2 million he already knows

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cuz I told him he got

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yesterday I thought it was only two over

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3 million it it was the greatest number

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Pro rout of any president in history he

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did not hurt him with latino voters I

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say it all the time on the five Biden

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can get tougher about this Henry qu he's

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got it right how he's talking about it

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the Border dams the mark Kelly of the

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world that's all fine and good but to

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your point about what this world looked

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like or this country before Co Trump

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setting all these records guess what

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Biden's done better than his records so

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black unemployment is lower than it was

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under Trump Latino unemployment lower

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than under let's talk about oil I can't

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even tell you how many times I've been

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told you know drill baby drill well Joe

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bid's doing it 13.3 million barrels it's

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the highest amount of oil produced by

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any country in history good sales pitch

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but here's the critical question for all

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of you and it's a one word one word

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answer if it's Biden Trump in November

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who no who wins I I do believe Biden

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wins

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Trump casting votes by the way that's

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why that's what's so scary about it like

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you have to think by the way you don't

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have to want this to happen but you're

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talking about I know but you're talking

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about a guy who has 91 criminal charges

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a guy who says he wants to be a dictator

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for a day a guy who says we should rip

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up the Constitution do know what day is

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and that's what I'm saying so if if

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Biden has done all of these great things

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and he's up against that and we're still

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not sure name is he winnable I don't I

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really don't know you got to you got to

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give me a name who's going to win Biden

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V Trump it's not Dean Phillips it's not

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gonna be Dean Phillips I really truly

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don't know if I had to say right now I

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would say Donald Trump wow there we go

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the casting vote Charlamagne the god the

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man with his finger on the pulse of

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America Trump maybe but I I don't know I

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really long feel so scary about it there

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a long there's a long time ago brilliant

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to have you all thank you very

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much