How Much Money You Need To Fly Business Class & Private Jets?
Summary
TLDRIn this insightful conversation, the speaker, a successful entrepreneur, reflects on his financial journey from a modest beginning to a substantial net worth. He discusses lifestyle changes post-exit, the importance of asset allocation with a focus on real estate and public markets, and the wisdom of investing in startups. The speaker candidly shares his struggles, the value of seeking advice from those slightly ahead, and the concept of 'Unicorn A,' a platform connecting professionals for access to their expertise. His story is a blend of financial acumen, personal growth, and the realities of entrepreneurship.
Takeaways
- ๐ผ The speaker emphasizes the importance of matching one's core skill set with their business or career path for success.
- ๐ก The speaker has a strategy for real estate investment, focusing on buying plots of land quickly when opportunities arise, which has tripled in value in the last three years.
- ๐ฐ The speaker admits to being good at making money but delegates wealth management to his father, who handles asset allocation including real estate, public markets, and private equity.
- ๐ The speaker advises on the 'Boss' model for building a business with scalability and sellability in mind, and the importance of having the right people with 'skin in the game'.
- ๐ฎ The speaker stresses the value of seeking advice from those who are a few steps ahead rather than much further along, as they can provide more relevant and attainable guidance.
- ๐ซ The speaker discusses the lifestyle changes that come with increasing wealth, such as the ability to afford business class travel and the opportunities it presents for learning from others.
- ๐ The speaker highlights that real estate investments have provided significant returns, with plots purchased for 13-15 crores now worth around 40 crores each.
- ๐ก The speaker shares personal anecdotes of struggle and the importance of visualizing future success to stay motivated during tough times.
- ๐ The speaker has invested in startups, with one significant investment growing 3-4x in 15 months, demonstrating the potential of angel investing.
- ๐ค The speaker is launching a venture studio to support young founders in their early stages, leveraging his own experiences and learnings.
- ๐ The speaker suggests setting ambitious wealth goals, aiming to reach 10 crores within 5 years, not 20, to foster impatience in achieving success.
Q & A
What is the approximate amount the interviewee has in their bank account after their venture exit?
-The interviewee has about 200 crores in their bank account after their venture exit.
How much tax has the interviewee paid in total throughout their journey?
-The interviewee estimates they have paid close to 45 to 50 crores in income tax.
What lifestyle changes did the interviewee notice when crossing financial milestones like 10 crores and 100 crores?
-The interviewee learned from a mentor that the lifestyle remains the same from 25 crores to 100 crores and from 100 crores to 500 crores, with the main change being the liberty to fly business class after crossing 100 crores.
What is the cost of flying a private jet for a Delhi to Mumbai trip according to the interviewee?
-The cost of flying a private jet for a Delhi to Mumbai trip is about 5.5 to 6 lakhs rupees minimum one way for about four to five people.
How does the interviewee manage their wealth?
-The interviewee's father manages all their wealth, and the interviewee takes a pocket money from him on a monthly basis.
What is the interviewee's asset allocation strategy?
-About 50 to 60% of the interviewee's wealth is in real estate, 20-25% is in public markets like the stock market, and the rest is in angel investing in different companies and private equity.
What returns has the interviewee seen from their real estate investments?
-The interviewee's real estate investments have tripled in the last three years, providing a 300% return.
What is the interviewee's advice for someone looking to reach a net worth of 10 crores in the next 20 years?
-The interviewee suggests aiming to reach 10 crores in 5 years instead of 20, being impatient in achieving goals but doing things patiently, and matching one's core skill set with the type of work or business they pursue.
How many startups has the interviewee invested in, and what sort of returns have they seen?
-The interviewee has invested in about five to six startups, with one significant investment in a company called Univest, which has grown 3 to 4 times in the last 15 months.
What is the concept behind the interviewee's venture 'unicorn.a'?
-Unicorn.a is a platform that connects professionals and่งฃๅณไบ the problem of access, allowing users to pay for the time of successful individuals based on their set rates.
What personal struggle did the interviewee share from their early entrepreneurial days?
-The interviewee shared an incident where they were so frustrated with their business that they cried on a bench outside the Amazon office in Bangalore.
Outlines
๐ฐ Wealth and Lifestyle Changes
The speaker discusses the impact of crossing financial milestones on lifestyle, from 1 crore to 100 crores and beyond. They mention that beyond a certain point, lifestyle changes plateau, but the freedom to fly business class increases. The speaker also shares personal anecdotes about wealth, including the emotional toll of financial decisions and the costs associated with private jet travel. They emphasize the importance of learning from interesting people met during flights and the strategy of investing in premium economy for valuable conversations.
๐ก Real Estate and Asset Allocation
This paragraph delves into the speaker's experience with real estate investment, highlighting the significant returns on plots in prime locations like Golf Course Road. The speaker compares land and apartment investments, emphasizing the higher potential returns from land. They also discuss their strategy for quick transactions and the importance of being an immediate buyer. Additionally, the speaker touches on the challenges of investing with limited funds and the benefits of using real estate as collateral for loans.
๐ Stock Market and Startup Investments
The speaker admits to having limited knowledge about their stock market investments, which are managed by their father. They reveal that 25% of their wealth is in public markets. The focus then shifts to startup investments, where the speaker shares their experience with concentrated bets, particularly in a company called Univest, which has shown impressive growth. The speaker also announces the launch of a venture studio, Wolf Pack Ventures, aimed at supporting young founders during their initial growth stages.
๐ Entrepreneurial Journey and Advice
The speaker provides advice for aspiring entrepreneurs, emphasizing the importance of setting ambitious yet achievable financial goals and matching one's skill set with their business ventures. They discuss the BOSS model of business operation and the significance of having a sellable business. The speaker also shares personal stories of struggle and the importance of seeking advice from those who have recently achieved what one aspires to, rather than from those much further ahead.
๐ฆ The Concept of 'Unicorn A'
In the final paragraph, the speaker introduces 'Unicorn A', a platform that connects professionals and allows users to pay for their time. The platform aims to solve the problem of access to successful individuals by setting personal rates. The speaker uses the analogy of driving in fog, suggesting that seeking advice from those slightly ahead can be more beneficial than from those far ahead in one's journey. The conversation ends with the speaker's openness to sharing their experiences and learnings.
Mindmap
Keywords
๐กExit
๐กCrore
๐กLifestyle Changes
๐กBusiness Class
๐กPrivate Jet
๐กAsset Allocation
๐กReal Estate
๐กPublic Markets
๐กAngel Investing
๐กWealth Management
๐กEntrepreneurial Struggle
๐กNetwork Building
๐กVenture Studio
๐กBlueprint for Wealth
๐กRisk Management
๐กUnicorn
Highlights
The interviewee has amassed a significant amount of wealth, with approximately 200 crores in their bank account after a successful venture exit in 2021.
Lifestyle changes are discussed, with the interviewee noting that the same lifestyle can be maintained from 25 crores to 100 crores, and then from 100 crores to 500 crores, and beyond.
The interviewee shares personal finance insights, revealing that they have paid close to 45-50 crores in taxes throughout their financial journey.
A discussion on the costs associated with private jet travel, highlighting the significant expenses involved for such luxury.
The interviewee's asset allocation strategy is revealed, with a focus on real estate, public markets, and private equity investments in startups.
Real estate investments have tripled in the last three years, showcasing the potential for high returns in this asset class.
The interviewee emphasizes the importance of being an 'immediate buyer' in real estate transactions to secure the best deals.
A unique perspective on purchasing real estate is shared, suggesting that even premium economy class travel can lead to valuable networking opportunities.
The interviewee admits to not being adept at managing money and delegates this responsibility to their father, who manages their wealth.
The concept of 'The Boss Model' is introduced, emphasizing building, operating, and scaling a business with an eye on eventual sale.
Struggles and emotional challenges faced during the early days of entrepreneurship are candidly discussed, including a moment of breaking down due to frustration.
The importance of seeking advice from those who are a few steps ahead rather than much further along, to gain practical and relatable guidance.
The interviewee shares their blueprint for reaching a net worth of 10 crores in 5 years, advocating for impatience in achieving financial goals.
A discussion on the value of equity and the strategic decision to give up a portion of it for reduced risk and mentorship in early-stage businesses.
The interviewee's venture into a venture studio named 'Wolf Pack Ventures' is mentioned, aiming to assist young founders in their entrepreneurial journey.
The concept of 'Unicorn.A' is introduced, a platform designed to connect professionals and solve the problem of access to high-level expertise.
An analogy is drawn between driving in fog and seeking advice, suggesting that guidance from those slightly ahead can be more effective than distant role models.
Transcripts
you have about 200 cres in your uh bank
account right there are so many Founders
I know you know them as well we can't
name them now who bought their homes in
Chas when they got their exit in 2021
their homes are worth thce today wow
total I think in my journey I must have
paid close to 50 50 45 wat Clos in tax
what are some of the things that you
know that very few people know
about
making I wept like a
baby because I was so frustrated what
happened how much does it cost the
private jet have you done the math yeah
man it's crazy tell me you really want
to know of course I want to know
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um I recently read that you gotten an
exit from your um uh from your Venture
and you have about 200 grows in your uh
bank account right right so we just want
to understand how does your lifestyle in
general change when you go from having
less than a CR to Crossing 10 crores and
then Crossing 100 crores I learned
something in a very early stage from one
of my
mentors
said so basically for a person between
let's say a 25 CR to 100 CR mark same
lifestyle from a 100 CR to a 4 500 CR
Mark same lifestyle from a 500 CR to a
billion dollar Mark I would say same
lifestyle so tell me what changes
because you mentioned from 25 to 100
crores at same after 100 cres after 100
crores um you know you get the Liberty
to fly business I'll give you a small
example like I have a rule with my
family everyone any flight less than 5
hours I'll do economy okay or a pemium
economy any flight more than 5 hours
I'll do business okay but after a
certain wealth even a 1hour flight for
people becomes business okay right so
that is after 100 crores that's after
100 crores maybe what I've noticed is
that to meet very interesting people
people that you can learn from uh they
are usually sitting in you know your
business class uh seats but of course
that's really expensive and even I have
that rule um that um if my flight is not
sponsored then I will not take a
business class ticket if it is sponsored
then I'll take business class ticket but
when I sit in these business class seats
whoever is sitting next to me I'm
learning so much from them right it's a
great great experience and it's non-stop
talk I don't need to read a book or
watch anything on my phone but then not
everybody can afford you know paying
five times more or 10 times more
sometimes for that same seat so the hack
that I've figured out is that even if
you take premium economy at the back by
paying 700 rupees more you will still
find some very very interesting and
smart people and I've had great
conversation something for the audience
so so you mentioned that after 100
crores itself just about business class
tickets but then what happens after 500
cres what changes then then you start
flying private have you have you flown
private I've flown private yes come here
all the way from Delhi you came in
private no I came in economy today so
this wasn't
sponsored so I came an economy and um
how much does it cost a private jet yeah
it depends so if you're doing a Delhi
Mumbai I think about 5 and a half six
lakh rupes minimum one way for about
four five people if you do something
like a the buai 10 to 12 lakhs at least
and people who cross like 5 crows
usually are comfortable doing this easy
easy because once you make that much
money have you made any stupid
purchasing decisions no yeah I mean I
think I think I've been very grounded
that way and I'm not a great manager of
money to be very honest so I that was my
next question like how do you manage
your money okay so um so you're very
only good at making money I'm only good
at making money that's the truth so my
father manes he manages all our wealth
and I take a pocket money from on a
monthly basis okay yeah seriously
seriously so if I buy have to buy a new
car I'll tell him this is what I want
and then he have to give you permission
correct not permission he's the one
who's going to buy it for me so but like
do you are you aware of what's your
asset allocation and stuff like that of
course I am what is your asset
allocation so yeah I think uh about 50
to 60% of my wealth is in real estate
really yeah it's real estate and uh what
else yeah and uh 20 25 w% is into public
markets when you mean Public Market you
mean the share market
stock market stock market and the rest
is again in um you know Angel Investing
in different companies private Equity
startups private Equity companies like
mine correct we'll talk later
correct so you mentioned real estate
public markets and private markets
startup private startup do you know what
sort of returns you're generating in
each of these three asset class have you
done the math yeah man it's crazy tell
me you really want to know of course I
want to know um real estate for me is um
tripled in the last 3 years tripled
tripled in the last three years and he
300% returns 300% and that was just a
phase again real estate is all about
luck as well plots in G have tripled I
remember buying a plot for about um 13
crws when you mean plot you mean in the
outskirts of the city or in the city
bang on Golf Course Road goodg okay look
at Chamas Camas deal of Chas that
apartment was launched at about 28 crws
today that same apartment is for 75 crws
wow there are so many Founders I know
you know as well we can't name them now
who bought their homes in Chas when they
got their exit in 2021 their homes are
worth thce today wow the plots I bought
that time for about 13 to 15 crores
today are about 40 cres each so these
are plots these are plots these are,
square yard plots 500 square yard plots
how much how much tax have you paid last
year yeah not last year but total I
think in my journey I must have paid
close to 50 50 45 wat Cor in tax in
income tax in income tax tell me a
little bit more about real estate
because uh 60% in real estate is a lot
so can you tell me a little bit about
your real estate investing strategy so I
love Acres but I'm a bit shy when it
comes to investing in apartments of
course yeah right because the kind of
returns a land can give you an apartment
can't but that's an art that's a scale
also can you talk a little bit about
that how do you purchase these plots of
land or square yards of land or acres of
land in your case how do you identify
them and how do you what kind of returns
have you made the strategy to buying
land or the strategy to buying real
estate is you have to be an immediate
buyer what does that mean that means and
that's a of investing in companies also
okay um you know so many times I've seen
that the fact that we as a fund are able
to invest very quickly it's about the
timing it's about the timing it's about
let's say Shon you're raising for your
company right in times to come and you
have to choose from two different
investors one says okay due
diligence the other says 15 days money
in the bank who would you choose 15 days
of course 15 days no so that's where a
lot of winning happens especially with
real estate so a lot of transactions
I've done I think we've had a
transaction done within 3 to 4 days so
typically what is the ticket size that
you're dealing with and buying real
estate yeah anywhere upwards of um 20 25
crores well let's say for talking to the
audience over here right most people
will not have more than a crore right
they'll probably have 30 40 50 lakhs at
for them no for they can't think of
investing in real in a city like good or
Mumbai you cannot buy anything for 50
lakhs but if I'm ready to take a loan
and then buy that lot of land and then
try to flip it no bro very risky no
because okay when you have limited money
it's very important to only invest in
assets which are cashable immediately
okay but is it possible to make money in
real estate if I have let's say like 50
lakhs one CR no so it's possible to make
money in real estate no matter how much
money you have you just have to look for
the right area so for example if you've
got a great pool of money you can be in
Gau or Mumbai if you don't go to to your
3 town real estate is an asset right
it's growing everywhere and then again
another advantage of real estate when
you use it wisely for example I can
easily take a loan against my property
at a 9 10 11% I can give it to you to
give me at least a 25 30% annual return
so once you've got a tangible asset
against which you can borrow nothing
like it according to you when is the
right time to buy a house like after
what sort of net worth you I mean I I
know you bought a 10,000 ft house right
after what net worth did you buy a house
yeah so I had certain okay so I've been
wanting to buy a house house from the
last um five or 6 years currently you're
36 currently I'm 36 so since the age I
was 29 I've been wanting to buy a house
for myself you know have an independent
lifestyle and paternal home was there so
my parents continued living in that
house so for me buying a house was more
of an emotional decision and I
think right at
least so I waited for the right time to
be able to have that liquidity to be
able to buy that house debt free right
oh you bought your your houses without a
loan without a loan obviously I bought
them after cashing out so obviously I
had no loans in my house
but so it's very easy for you to say
that right because you got like let's
say a secondary you got 60 crores in
your bank account correct and then
buying a five CR house you wouldn't care
but for most people watching over here
they have overall net worth of let's say
10 lakhs 20 lakhs for them to get a
house let's say minimum 2 CR investment
in Mumbai at least they have to get a
loan right so how do you look at that so
I would say don't get a house mbai all
I'm saying
is but I need to have a shelter I need
to have a place where my wife my kids my
parents can come back to on a daily
basis because interesting that
debate you put twoes in public markets
again man putting money where it is
easily cashable you watch my real two
Crowes in house or two Crowes in the
markets ah so again someone like me
who's very impulsive greedy would
say there's a high chance of me losing
that 2 CR also or maybe that 2 becoming
1.5 but I've got a house which is a 2
house I
know interesting so we come coming back
to your asset allocation right we've
talked about real estate a lot how is
your stock market investment no idea you
don't know that's what your dad is
looking at that's what my I know my
family owns 25% of wealth is in public
markets
no idea which mutual fund which stock
you don't know no idea so private
markets the startups I'm sure you would
be knowing that right can you talk a
little bit about how many startups have
you invested in and what sort of exits
or returns you've gotten from yeah I've
just invested in about five six startups
right now um I had a you know I took a
10 CR rup amount from my father recently
and I said let me invest it in startups
meaning you asked I want my money 10
crores I'll not put in so you like how
do you look at startup Investments like
how do you invest yeah I do a lot of gut
investing like a company
that was a very big check for me so out
of 10 crores I've invested about 7
crores in a company called Univest so
been get very concentrated bet very
concentrated very concentrated bet in
Univest because I saw a lot of value
that company would add to the market and
we seeing the returns I mean the money
is already grown 3x already in the last
15 months which is fantastic wow um you
know 4X I would say which is brilliantly
amazing and then apart from that um you
know I've just launched in fact we're
launching and I hope by the time this
comes you we would have launched it a
venture Studio we're calling it wolf
pack Ventures interesting so basically
you're helping young Founders in their
zero to1 Journey because that is the
hardest that's the hardest and you also
had five startups of your own right
before you became successful so you had
a lot of learnings of what to do and
what not to do correct the question is
is that today I let's say a 25 30 30y
old chap 25 let's be younger let's be 25
25 year old CH working um in India and
if I want to reach a network of let's
say 10 crores in the next 20 years what
should be my blueprint what should I do
step by step how what would you do okay
first your blueprint should be to reach
10 crores not in 20 years but in 5 years
okay okay you've got to be impatient
you've got to do things patiently but
you've got to be impatient okay okay
second it's very important Sharon to
match your skill set with the kind of
work you do it could be business it
could be entrepreneurship same thing or
it could be a job or it could be content
creation you need to match your core
skill set for example my core skill set
is 0 to one I'm great with ideations I'm
great with execution I'm great with GTM
strategies once you've identified your
core skill set you create a business
around
it very important you cannot be a fish
who is trying to compete with the
birds okay okay let's say if you're
great with HR you open your own HR
agency the easiest way to create wealth
is simp similar to how government
Partnerships work have you heard about
the B model buer and transfer I work on
a model and I have no shame in saying
this I work on a Model saying B build
operate scale uh sorry cell build
operate cell boss okay boss build
operate scale scale and I like it the
Boss model the Boss model you know a lot
of VC a lot of people say don't build a
company to sell and I agree with that
don't build a company to sell but build
a company in a way or build a business
in a way that is easily sellable and
function either get a co-founder with
that or hire the right people very
important and always know your safety
net don't be greedy if 10 CR is your
safety net P 10 CR
exit gun for the 100 so like my safety
net used to be 25 trust me sh that day
someone would have told me that Hey
listen we'll buy our entire company for
30 CR I might have sold it oh yeah but
then great I got offered 60 60 H an I
regret this today but fair and then you
got another 200
yeah so you mentioned that you're very
good at making money right not managing
money I never said that you said that
but you agreed you're very good at
making money so uh what are some of the
things that you know that very few
people know about making money okay be
flexible about your ownership of your
company
what does that mean that means tell me
something Sharon you were starting out
new today let's say a d2c brand or any
brand okay um you have two options one
build it on your own okay and then go in
the market raise VC money blah blah blah
blah blah second get me as your partner
put in 35 40 50 lakh rupees and I take
30% what would you choose and be very
honest you might chose I I I'm assuming
that I've crossed the 0 to one stage
right now the risk has significantly
reduced so I don't need to give away a
lot of equity absolutely but if I'm
starting from zero and let's say I meet
you in a in a business class seat and
you talk to me about how much you have
achieved right then I'm very inclined to
want to partner with you and at that
point of time if you're going to
minimize my Risk by 90% I would be very
happy to give you 30% I'm glad because
you mindful of that a lot of people are
not Equity yeah right of course so if
I've invested 50 lakhs in a company I
have to bloody make sure that this
company thrives this company successes H
this company succeeds so it's very
important for people to understand that
once you're raising Capital with the
right people especially if your
investors have the right skin in the
game and are able to help you operate
the business teach you the right things
the journey becomes far more simpler see
it's all fun and uh prestigious to be an
entrepreneur running your own business
and all of that is there any you know
incidents in your life which you faced
during your early days where you just
couldn't deal with that pressure and
what you did to come out of it true
story 20
2019 me Bangalore Amazon office and if
you've been to the Amazon office there's
a beautiful Lake in their office complex
okay so there's a mall on the right and
there's a lake in the center and then
there's this HTI Cy um you know the
coffee place dude I have sat on the
bench outside in front of that Lake
below the Amazon office I think 20 30 31
years old and I've cried I've wept like
a baby
P minute because I was so frustrated
what happened my journey with bellavita
Amazon Flipkart I'm a growing
entrepreneur everyone on Amazon is
working Flipkart is working they're
looking
and right so I'm there without an
appointment trying to get more um
insights of how can I make this better
Etc so that frustration that weight
frustrates you right and plus you're
taking care of 10 different things so
imagine a grown man 31y old 2y old
sitting on a bench crying and then
sipping coffee by himself that's the
kind of things you go through so people
get to see the plush life of us they are
successful we've gone through struggles
now coming back to struggles sh's very
important to take the right advice from
the right person if you really want to
become an entrepreneur go take advice
from an
entrepreneur
advice that's better than taking advice
from your cha who in service now flip it
let's say I'm an entrepreneur and I'm
having terrible days okay I call up some
uncle or my dad and I
say who's also D guy would
say this is business that's how it's
done it move on dude one day gone
next and the best way to keep yourself
motivated Shan is by living in the the
future example as in imagine how your
life would be once you've achieved what
you're trying to achieve so that's what
you did when you wereing that's what I
did that's what I did and that shade you
know I say this share a lot of times in
a lot of my
talks cool now let's talk about the the
big letters on your shirt which you want
today okay unicorn a and very proud of
say that I also invested uh a small
check size in your company and that's
how the entire conversation began that
um that initial discussion uh but what
is unicorn. a I mean is it like a
unicorn company from day one what is it
so we are building a platform built
already unicorn. it means you and I
connect and we've solved the problem of
access so let's say sh you're on the
platform and your rate card is 10,000
rupes an hour I'm discounting it a lot
I'm sorry just everyone the entire
professional Workforce of our country is
there okay everyone sets their own rates
you've got every single person on the
platform from Akash to the executive
level guy of bellavita so basically
you're saying that I can pay for the
time of really successful and rich
people yes when have you ever driven a
car in fog in what fog fog when there's
fog dund no I have not driven okay okay
so Delhi has a lot of fog Mangalore and
Bangalore yeah so Delhi has a lot of fog
you know what's the best way to drive a
car in fog or in a unknown territory
unknown terrain especially in the Hills
you just follow the car ahead of
you you don't follow the car 10 cars
ahead of you yeah okay that's the same
Journey as growth beautiful analogy
that's the same Journey as growth
basically what you're trying to say is
that when you want advice don't seek it
from people who are 10 steps ahead of
you seek it from people who are like two
three steps ahead of
you now the question should be why can I
not ask this one to one in my own
company okay if I'm working in bellavita
why can't I ask my senior manager my VP
how to become a VP right or as an
executive why can't I ask my manager on
how to become a manager why because
insecurity right and I'm sorry I'm
putting this out there but people are
shy of helping other people also because
of their own
insecurity which is okay not okay at the
same time so if human nature human
nature and nothing wrong with it
everyone's insecure so an employee in b
wants to become a senior manager could
find a parallel company and ask that
senior
manager and that's the guy who's going
to give you true advice absolutely I
think it's almost 9:00 here I'm here all
day uh thank you so much guys for
watching till the end thanks guys and
I'll see you in the next one
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