The Gospel of Mark Chapter 6: With Dr. Craig Keener
Summary
TLDRIn this episode of Remnant Radio, Dr. Craig Keener, a renowned Bible scholar, discusses the Gospel of Mark. The conversation highlights Jesus' ministry, miracles, and teachings, including his rejection in his hometown and the significance of faith in his works. Dr. Keener also explores the death of John the Baptist, the feeding of the 5,000, and Jesus walking on water, providing insights into the theological and historical context. The episode emphasizes the importance of faith, the interplay between miracles and suffering, and the distinctiveness of Jesus' divine identity.
Takeaways
- π The episode features Dr. Craig Keener, a prominent Bible scholar, discussing the Gospel of Mark.
- π Dr. Keener connects various themes and events in Mark, highlighting their significance and interconnections.
- π The episode was filmed at Asbury Seminary, and the team is offering home group material to help offset production costs.
- π The home group material includes a leader's guide, participant's guide, video discussions, and discussion questions.
- π Jesus' inability to perform miracles in his hometown is discussed, emphasizing the need for faith and the implications of unbelief.
- π The story of John the Baptist's beheading by Herod is a central narrative, highlighting the themes of suffering and persecution.
- πΎ The feeding of the 5,000 is connected to Old Testament stories of miraculous provision, emphasizing Jesus' divine identity.
- π§ Jesus walking on water is linked to Old Testament theophanies, demonstrating his divine nature and authority over creation.
- π The contrast between Herod's self-centered, destructive banquet and Jesus' selfless, life-giving provision is explored.
- π€ The disciples' reaction to Jesus' miracles reveals their ongoing struggle to understand his true identity and mission.
Q & A
Who is Dr. Craig Keener and why is he featured in the episode?
-Dr. Craig Keener is one of the preeminent Bible scholars on the planet, featured in this episode to discuss the Gospel of Mark.
What is the main topic of the episode?
-The main topic of the episode is the Gospel of Mark and the insights Dr. Keener provides about its narrative.
What challenges did the show face in producing the content?
-The show faced significant expenses in traveling to Asbury Seminary to film the content.
How can viewers support the show?
-Viewers can support the show by purchasing the home group material, which includes a leader's guide and a participant's guide, or by donating through PayPal links provided in the video description.
What is the significance of Jesus' miracles in his hometown as discussed in the episode?
-In Jesus' hometown, his miracles were limited due to the lack of faith among the people, which contrasts with his miracles elsewhere that revealed his divine identity.
Why is the phrase 'Is this not Mary's son?' significant?
-The phrase 'Is this not Mary's son?' could be interpreted as an insult, potentially hinting at illegitimacy, and deviates from the norm of referring to someone by their father's name.
What differences exist between Matthew 13 and Mark 6 regarding Jesus' miracles?
-Matthew 13 states that Jesus 'would not' do many miracles because of their unbelief, while Mark 6 says he 'could not,' which may suggest different theological emphases.
What instructions did Jesus give his disciples when sending them out, and why?
-Jesus instructed his disciples to travel light, without bread, bag, or money, to avoid accusations of greed and to emphasize reliance on faith and mobility.
What is the significance of John the Baptist's death in the narrative of Mark?
-John the Baptist's death serves as a foreshadowing of Jesus' own suffering and martyrdom, highlighting the cost of discipleship and the reality of persecution.
How does the feeding of the 5,000 relate to Old Testament themes?
-The feeding of the 5,000 echoes Old Testament themes such as God providing manna and quail to Israel in the wilderness and the miracles performed by prophets like Elijah and Elisha.
What is the significance of Jesus walking on water in relation to Old Testament imagery?
-Jesus walking on water draws on Old Testament imagery where God treads upon the waters and passes by to reveal His glory, signifying Jesus' divine nature.
Why does Mark emphasize that the people touched the fringe of Jesus' garment for healing?
-The emphasis on touching the fringe of Jesus' garment highlights his adherence to Jewish customs and prefigures the upcoming confrontation with the Pharisees over Torah traditions.
What contrast does Mark create between Herod Antipas' banquet and Jesus' feeding of the 5,000?
-Mark contrasts Herod Antipas' self-centered, scandalous banquet with Jesus' selfless feeding of the 5,000, illustrating different models of leadership and service.
What was the reaction of Jesus' disciples to his walking on water and why?
-The disciples were initially fearful, thinking Jesus was a ghost, revealing their lack of understanding and faith despite witnessing previous miracles.
How does Mark's narrative emphasize the popularity of Jesus in Galilee?
-Mark emphasizes Jesus' popularity in Galilee by showing how people eagerly sought him out for healing, contrasting with the rejection he faced in Nazareth and by Jerusalem's elites.
Outlines
πΊ Introduction to the Series with Dr. Craig Keener
The video introduces Remnant Radio's 19-episode series featuring Dr. Craig Keener, a renowned Bible scholar. The episode focuses on the Gospel of Mark. The hosts discuss the costs of producing the series and encourage viewers to purchase home group materials or donate via PayPal to support the channel. They emphasize the usefulness of these materials for various church roles and provide links for easy access.
π Jesus' Miracles and Rejection in His Hometown
Dr. Keener discusses Jesus' mixed reception in His hometown, where He performs few miracles due to a lack of faith. The conversation explores whether the term 'Mary's son' was an insult and touches on the differences in gospel narratives about Jesus' miracles. It concludes with the notion that Jesus' ability to perform miracles was contingent on faith rather than magic.
ποΈ John the Baptist's Martyrdom and its Narrative Role
The discussion shifts to the martyrdom of John the Baptist, comparing it to the Old Testament story of Elijah and Jezebel. It highlights the brutal and grotesque nature of ancient executions and how Johnβs death contrasts with Jesus' miracles. The segment also covers the narrative purpose of including John's death in the Gospel of Mark, emphasizing the intertwining of miracles and suffering.
π The Herodian Family's Role and the Symbolism of Banquets
Dr. Keener explains the Herodian family dynamics, including incest and political intrigue. The segment explores why Herodias' daughter asked for John the Baptist's head and the symbolic contrast between Herod's self-indulgent banquet and Jesus' miraculous feeding of the 5,000. The narrative uses these stories to illustrate different leadership styles and the ultimate sacrifices required.
π The Miracle of Feeding the 5,000
The segment discusses Jesus feeding the 5,000, drawing parallels to Old Testament miracles, such as the manna in the wilderness and the miracles of Elijah and Elisha. It emphasizes Jesus as a new Moses performing signs in the wilderness, surpassing the false prophets of the time who promised but failed to deliver such miracles.
π Jesus Walking on Water and Old Testament Theophany
Dr. Keener explores the story of Jesus walking on water, connecting it to Old Testament themes of God treading upon the waters and passing by figures like Moses and Elijah. He explains the significance of Jesus using the phrase 'I am,' linking it to divine self-identification. The discussion highlights the disciples' misunderstanding and fear, contrasting with the intended revelation of Jesus' divinity.
π€² Jesus' Growing Popularity and Preparation for Conflict
The final segment highlights Jesus' popularity, especially among the common people in Galilee, as they sought to touch the fringe of His garment for healing. This scene sets the stage for the upcoming conflict with the Pharisees, who question Jesus' adherence to Jewish laws. The narrative emphasizes Jesus' genuine Jewish piety, contrasting with the Pharisees' focus on traditions over the Torah.
Mindmap
Keywords
π‘Gospel of Mark
π‘Dr. Craig Keener
π‘Miracles
π‘Faith
π‘John the Baptist
π‘Herod Antipas
π‘Parallels with Elijah
π‘Feeding of the 5,000
π‘Walking on Water
π‘Passover and Theophany
Highlights
Introduction to the episode featuring Dr. Craig Keener discussing the Gospel of Mark.
Dr. Keener provides insights into Jesus' miracles and his reception in his hometown.
Discussion on the potential insult in referring to Jesus as 'Mary's son' rather than 'Joseph's son.'
Comparison between Matthew and Mark's accounts of Jesus' miracles in his hometown.
Explanation of the disciples' mission instructions and the significance of traveling light.
Analysis of John the Baptist's death and its narrative significance in Mark's Gospel.
Connections drawn between John the Baptist's fate and Jesus' mission, highlighting the theme of suffering.
Discussion on the feeding of the 5,000 and its Old Testament parallels, particularly with Moses.
Dr. Keener explains the significance of Jesus walking on water and its Old Testament background.
Insight into the phrase 'I am' used by Jesus, linking it to God's self-identification in Exodus.
Analysis of the disciples' failure to understand the miracle of the loaves and its implications.
Discussion on the Herodian family dynamics and their historical context.
Dr. Keener highlights the contrast between Herod's banquet and Jesus' feeding of the 5,000.
Closing discussion on the significance of people reaching for the fringe of Jesus' garment for healing.
Preview of the upcoming discussion on Jesus' defense of the Torah against Pharisaic traditions.
Transcripts
hey guys welcome to the remnant radio
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dr craig keener one of the preeminent
bible scholars on the planet and we're
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a whole lot is happening in this chapter
uh could you just frame this for our
viewers
what is uh
how does this build upon what's gone
before and build into what's coming next
how does it fit into mark's narrative
jesus is still working miracles he's
very popular in many places
except in his hometown
where he he can't work many miracles
because
it would it would be seen like magic
because it's not it's not based on faith
and yet
he goes on to um
delegate this miracle working power to
others he's got so much of it himself
obviously
and and and ultimately you see his
miracles revealing his divine identity
toward the end of the chapter
but
smack dab in the midst of it in 6 14
through 29
you have
the death of john the baptist jesus
forerunner
which keeps you from a triumphalistic
view of miracles
it's it's got to be mixed with the
reality of suffering for christ
okay so the very first little section
there is we have jesus in his hometown
he goes and he's speaking they're
they're kind of amazed they're baffled
they're like wow great wisdom great
teaching miracles done by his hand but
there's like this hard left turn it
seems like where they they're upset that
he's just hometown boy able to do these
things where to get this stuff and
there's a phrase in here that i've heard
people kind of debate over is this not
mary's son now it would have been i
think appropriate um for them to have
named him the son of joseph right like
this is the carpenter's kid
some have suggested that son of mary is
kind of an insult it's a slam uh
speaking of i don't know illegitimate
sunship
potentially what do you think yeah i
think the the hard left turn may
actually be explained some by luke's
fuller description in luke chapter four
okay but
in terms of the insult i mean there are
some insults i mean
carpenter carpenter actually an artisan
was probably higher level than what a
lot of them were
were doing in terms of status but it
wasn't real high status wasn't as high
status as the sage was supposed to be
although there were some carpenter sages
shamai allegedly was both
um but in the case in the case of uh
son of mary there are debates about
about this
um
sometimes people were called by their
mother's name especially if the mother
was more prestigious than the father
sometimes if the father was dead
you could be called by the name of the
mother although still you would often be
called by the name of the father and
then
sometimes it would be if the mother
you know
for the reasons that you said so some
people do view it as an insult
which may be a backhanded reference to
the virgin birth but since matthew since
since mark doesn't go into that we we
don't know for sure but we do know for
sure
that they weren't
they weren't all that impressed they
weren't too keen
yeah yeah i'm keener than me that's
that's right hey
dr cain is keen
okay so i i'm interested in the
difference between matthew 13 and mark
chapter 6.
and matthew 13 it says that jesus would
not do many miracles because of their
unbelief but mark's version says he
could not do
and some people want to make something
of this and because you know in one hand
it sounds kind of like uh he just opted
not to it's almost like you know in his
own divinity he just decided not to do
where's the other
you know almost seems like it limits his
divinity
you know people will kind of make these
arguments is there any real substantive
difference i i think there's a
substantive difference in terms of
matthew wanting to make sure you don't
misunderstand the point and so he he
rewords it but even in mark you notice
it says he couldn't do any but then it
says except he did a few
and then he then he sends out his
disciples to do to do the same things
and so what does it mean that he
couldn't
and you know he he did some other things
despite the disciples lack of faith i
mean like just calm the calm the storm
at the end of chapter 4 and so on
so i think when it says he couldn't he
couldn't
do it and still
and still make it what it should be i
mean
if you
go around
doing stuff for people
who
are unresponsive who aren't going to
going to believe
it's not helping them it's it's it just
is like a form of magic you go through
the formula you make it happen he wants
he wants faith and not just
um
yeah but
but it's not like he never does it
otherwise it's not it could not have
ability it's a could not of like within
his own nature like
yeah a self-contained could not it
wouldn't be appropriate so so same kind
of question on the heels of that the
matthew mark kind of
seems a little bit different
the isn't he the carpenter
and then is it matthew that says the
carpenter's son so there's like a a
little bit of a variant between these
two gospels yeah which one should we go
with matthew matthew 13 55 i think in
mark 6 3 i believe um well usually
people were trained in the trade of
their their father so that was that was
very common and it's not surprising that
you would have somebody with the
carpenter's role in nazareth because
four miles away from nazareth is a
forest which was destroyed and
immediately began to be rebuilt when
jesus was a child
and so you know four mile walk
is not at all difficult when they need a
lot of carpenters and stone masons
to
rebuild this area so
jesus would have been raised in that
same occupation as his father the fact
that it says the carpenter probably a
lot of people got that work but jesus
was particularly skilled he and his
he and joseph were particularly skilled
in this profession
okay so you mentioned a moment ago about
the disciples being sent out that's the
next scene so
jesus 7-13 so jesus could not do many
miracles there but he did a few and he
sent his disciples out and they did a
bunch
and uh but of course they didn't do a
bunch in their hometown they're going
all over the place on mission and i'm
interested in their their directions he
charged them to take nothing for their
journey except a staff no bread no bag
no money and their belts but to wear
sandals not even two uh not even two
tunics and so what's behind the command
like why does he care so much what they
bring on their journey
well they have to travel light
also there were a lot of accusations and
antiquity about greedy preachers yeah uh
they weren't all preachers a lot of
different kinds of
oh yeah what science you mean that
happens today
i just thought it was a tsa thing i mean
it's kind of a real strict
security
yeah but but
yeah they they they wanted to uh
i think jesus wants them not to be
accusable of things but he also
you know the idea that in some circles
today that miracles and prosperity go
together
is uh it arose around the mid-20th
century i mean through most of history
people thought the opposite you know
it's it's what you sacrifice that that
gives you spiritual power really what
gives you spiritual power it's the name
of jesus where the where the power lies
but but we have to be willing to
sacrifice and they had to be mobile in
this case now the instructions differ
here somewhat from what you have in
matthew and luke but i think that's
because you know to keep the narrative
concise they're giving you one mission
we already know from luke when he sends
the 70 there were actually multiple
missions and so um i think you may have
had different instructions and different
missions and they're they're drawing on
different bodies of
of material there okay so uh john john
mark introduces us to john with kind of
this
prophetic narrative of john the
baptist-esque like ministry of preparing
the way for jesus
and we know that john is kind of this
john the baptist 2.0 carrying on the
ministry of elisha i i'm using the wrong
phrase john what did i say he's elijah
2.0 yeah yeah yeah there you go yes so
john is carrying on the ministry of
elijah
but in the same narrative
of elijah in the old testament his his
arch nemesis is jezebel who i
affectionately call jesse b um and he
called john the baptist johnny b johnny
b
johnny be good versus yeah anyway so in
this in this situation jezebel is
threatening to cut off the head of
elijah and here comes john the baptist
and he is confronting a wicked king just
like elijah is and
but this woman comes in and is able to
get the head of john the baptist where
jezebel couldn't get the head of elijah
there are no fiery chariots there's no
ravens there's no
miraculous rescue and yet john the
baptist is greater which is
oddly enough well this because of whose
way he prepares yes yeah but yeah
most most scholars do recognize
that in fact though
even in josephus first century jewish
historian
jezebel
sorry
um
herodias acts kind of like jezebel so
okay
not not in this story but in in in other
ways sure and and
herod antipas acts kind of like like
ahab
so
uh
but yeah they they certainly fit the
role here
then there's the scene of i mean at you
you kind of referenced it a second ago
about asking for the head
can we ask specifically why
does she ask for the head of john the
baptist why doesn't you know like his
head on a platter why doesn't she ask
some other question why does this just
want him killed you've got a lot of uh
ancient accounts in ancient historians
of people who
asked for these grotesque things at
banquets to and often to entertain their
lover a boy or a woman or whatever
and so uh this is one of those kind of
scenes and everybody understood when
they read those things there's a story
about a jewish king who had 600
men uh crucified while they were on the
crosses had their the throats of their
wives and children slit
while he and his concubines were
banqueting you know so
it's like horrible stuff
um and antipas fits that that role here
but by the way when i say antipas uh
you've got the herodian family you've
got herod the great
this herod in this story is herod
antipas who was his son who was the
governor the son of the baby killer yeah
the son of the baby killer okay um so
and uh herodias actually was the
granddaughter of herod the great so
she's the niece
of this herod as well as the wife of his
brother who also was the son of heir of
the grace of john the baptist
confronting there's a there's a lot of
incest that went on in in the herodian
family and a lot of them
just get nicknamed herod too because
they were
herods but anyway
um
but the reason that she may ask for it
in a platter
you know it fits the dinner
scene
it adds to the grotesqueness
but also if she's got to carry it back
to her mother it's less messy on the
platter
it was like the practical answers you
know like why why did jesus push out
onto a boat so they could hear him yeah
why did she ask for the head on a
platter so she could carry it just man
we don't spiritualize this
it's helpful um
uh
so you explain to us a little bit of the
herodian family line
why does mark take such a journey
on the story about john the baptist like
he's telling this really great narrative
of jesus and then he's like pause
sepia tone interlude moment where we're
going to go flashback to catch you up to
this part of the story and then we're
going to keep going what's what's the
reason for that mark and sandwich is
what we're talking about you've got uh 6
7-13 he sends out the disciples word is
spreading everywhere so
you know herod at this point definitely
hears about jesus uh you know quite in
contrast to nazareth everywhere else is
getting the word but then in verse 30
it comes back to that and they come back
and they report all the all the signs
that were were being done through their
ministry verses 14 through 29 smackdown
in the middle of it
detailed
description
of
john the baptist the forerunner of jesus
being martyred it shows you where the
narrative's headed what's going to
happen to jesus and these disciples are
all excited about sharing in jesus power
well
you know you get to chapter 13 and you
get some more explanation of they're
going to share in jesus offerings too
we're going to share in jesus offerings
too persecution
is part of the part of the deal so it
all fits together with
the message of the crucified king the
crucified king crucified king oh
and it's not just him it's all of us who
want to follow in his footsteps well i
haven't i've never noticed that that
sequence
okay so uh
just as mark gives so much detail i
think this is why we're spending such
time on the story of john the baptist as
as mark tells the story um so i i want
to ask because i know you mentioned this
before the show you're talking about
that there was a significance to the
fact that herodias's daughter goes out
to ask for the head so enlighten us what
is the
significance sure um
yeah in terms of herodius's daughter
there's actually a textual variant in
the greek uh but i think it's it it is
herodias daughter whether it was a an
ancient version of a typo or whatever
but yeah herodias daughter goes out to
ask her mother i don't think that
herodias was actually there to watch her
husband's probably drunken lust after
the daughter
when the when the offers are half the
kingdom
he actually
couldn't have given her half the kingdom
uh he's obviously kind of drunk
half the kingdom is an illusion back to
the book of esther
where uh king khashoggi xerxes offers
esther half the kingdom
but
everybody knows he's not actually going
to give her half the kingdom he's not
actually going to make her co-regent and
everybody knows it's not smart to ask
for something that the king doesn't
really want to give you anyway
but in any case
uh he he offers her this and so she goes
out and she has to ask her mother for
something more practical because you
know sometimes
people would ask for things that were
like more than the person would want to
grant
people people sometimes promised you
know i'll give you anything
just you know ask me and and then they
ask them for something the person
doesn't want to grant and they're like
the person's so embarrassed but
sometimes also some strange accident
happens to the person you ask so you
really have to be careful
about what you asked he fell out of an
elevator shaft onto some bullets oh wow
[Laughter]
so
uh
so
yeah so she goes out now
in contrast to
in rome in the eastern mediterranean
and further to the east often you had
segregated banquet halls you have that
in the book of esther
and the fortress machiris
where josephus first century jewish
historian tells us that john the baptist
was kept it actually has
separate banquet halls
so presumably
given the the customs these would be
separate banquet halls for the men and
the women so
she has to go out to ask her mother
who's not in the same banquet hall and
the only reason the daughter is there is
because she's dancing and this is
probably not a
prom
uh
prep dance or you know just she's
she's practicing her ballet before her
dad or something this is
uh a little scandalous
it's more scandalous which
some scholars have pointed out you know
you wouldn't expect uh the princess to
be doing this this was low life kind of
stuff
except from what we know from the
banquets of the herodian family they
were notoriously scandalous
what happened to the herodians like
herod and his family
ah well glad you asked that one uh herod
was technically not a king he was a
tetrarch mark calls him a king
which is probably how he was experienced
by
galileans i mean he's a he's a prince
he's the son of king herod
but he never actually got to be a king
himself
rome wasn't quite ready to trust him
with that responsibility
but herodias
technically the niece of of herod
antibus she had a full brother by the
name of herod agrippa
herod agrippa the first appears
and dies in acts chapter 12
he's also mentioned in josephus dying
under the same kind of circumstances
but
agrippa was party buddies with gaius
caligula in rome and actually ended up
getting himself in trouble because he
was like
oh i wish you were the emperor instead
of tiberius and so he gets arrested
because tiberius is the emperor and word
gets back to tiberius but
when tiberius dies
then gaius caligula
becomes the emperor and he takes he
takes good care of his party buddy
agrippa the first
like frat brothers yeah
but
eventually uh
agrippa becomes king of judea from the
years of
41 to 44 belief of the first century
he would have stayed king longer except
he died
worms acts chapter 12 yeah so but
when he was king you know herodias was
like
to her husband i mean she she had left
her previous husband
married herod antipas probably not
because he was a handsome guy or for
romance i mean he was a generation older
than she was and all that but she uh you
know it was a step up her husband seems
not to have been very politically
ambitious but
you know herod uh
herod antipas had a little bit more
future ahead of him well now her brother
is king of judea and she says no wait a
minute you've been tetrarch for a whole
generation since your father died in
what we now would call 4bc
so why are you a king you should you
should ask the emperor to become a king
too
and he said
dear nobody can become emperor and
nobody can become king unless the
emperor says they can become king
no uni josephus says she kept pestering
him and finally you know he petitions
the emperor and says mr amber sir
could i please become a king like my
brother-in-law
to which the emperor replied
that's treason no one can be king unless
i say they can become king
and so
he ends up getting banished to gaul
and
i guess for his gall but herodias
spelled differently
in wrong language but herodias ends up
going with him so he ends up losing not
half his kingdom he ends up losing
everything
maybe they should have listened to
uh john the baptist
yeah adultery never pays but but but
there's also a reason another reason i
think why mark calls him a king because
it sets up a contrast
here you have somebody with a lewd
banquet
every it's it's his own birthday which
was a back then it was just a greek and
roman custom not a jewish one but you
know they're the elite so
but it's you know it's all self-centered
uh it ends in somebody's death
contrasting with the banquet that'll
come after this
where jesus
feeds others and jesus is going to be a
servant leader who's going to give his
life for others
you know so jesus christ john the
baptist contrasting with with herod
antipas
okay so uh so john the baptist his head
is removed
his body mark mentions the
disciples of john the baptist go and
bury the body
is mark just telling us the story as an
fyi or does this have does this
contribute to the narrative flow of what
mark is trying to achieve more
importantly did they keep the head
did herod just keep the head
no detail
josephus does not mention it's not
that's not given to us but unfortunately
that was considered the merciful form of
execution though uh and the crucifixion
was death by slow torture whereas
decapitation
was uh
much
quicker relatively speaking
uh so i mean he did he did look out for
john sort of a little bit
but still very corrupt
so um in terms of them bearing the body
normally the eldest son would be in
charge of the burial and so on but john
apparently doesn't have family like that
but he has disciples who can do it for
him and disciples were often considered
like
they'd consider their teacher like kind
of a father figure
so
they bury him but what this highlights
in the larger narrative of mark is
so what happens when jesus is executed
where are his disciples
they're all in hiding
wimps
so it it brings out a contrast again
it's cool that the that mark is always
saying you know the heroes of the
stories the guys that you would want to
be like the the conquering victorious
yeah like i want to be the hero it's
like oh no i'm the bad guy um so then
it's the next story jesus feeds 5 000
people with a lunchable um how it like
is this supposed to be reminiscent from
old testament of like god feeding israel
with manna and quail like what's the and
you already talked about parallelism
with herod in the banquet feast but how
does this connect with that old
testament narrative as well yeah it does
and and again with
elijah uh feeding or multiplying food
that was for a widow and elisha doing
the same thing although you have some
clear echoes of that in john 6
but yeah
especially the feeding in the wilderness
that's interesting when you think about
people were already expecting a new
moses
a prophet like me moses says deuteronomy
18 15 and 18.
and
qumran talks about it the rabbis talk
about it you know a lot a lot of people
samaritans were expecting
a prophet like moses
and
then you had these prophets who arose
mainly in the 40s josephus calls them
false prophets who said you know
we are going to we are going to leave
you in the wilderness and god is going
to intervene and we're going to make the
walls of jerusalem fall down like joshua
or we're going to part the jordan like
joshua who's emulating moses a part of
the sea and so here but they promised
those things they couldn't fulfill them
but here jesus actually does a sign in
the wilderness like moses
and you you know the the crowds don't
mark doesn't tell us the crowds knew
what was going on john tells us the
crowds did see and they wanted to make
jesus king
but yeah continuing that theme of old
testament background the next scene is
jesus walking on water so they finished
feeding the 5000 he goes up on a
mountain luke tells us to pray and uh
and he's praying until the fourth watch
of the night and he walks as though he's
going to pass by the disciples they
don't recognize him at first anyway the
end of the story is the the storm is
calmed but
is there an old testament background for
the story of jesus walking on water it's
full of old testament background
in job for example well actually even in
psalms you have god being the one who
treads upon the waters but in job
chapter 9 you have god being the one
that treads upon the waters and a few
verses later i think around verse 11 of
job 9
it says
and he passed me by
and i didn't recognize him and that's an
illusion back to exodus
chapters
well in in 32
moses smashes the
tablets because of the golden calves and
so he has to go back up and get some
more and in 33 god is going to reveal
his glory to moses
and
he says
that
i'll just show you part of my glory and
it says the lord passed by moses
and so
moses gets a theophany job is saying i
didn't get the theophany you know he was
going to pass me by but it's in job it's
in the context of treading upon the
waters the god who passes by
and then in exodus
god passes by gives a theophany in um i
think it's first kings 19
god passes by
uh
where elijah is on the mountain he gets
he gets a theophany and so
here is a theophany jesus comes walking
on the water
he's he's
but he's not just walking in the water
when it says he's walking the water he's
about to pass them by
jesus is coming to them as yahweh you
know
next next closest thing to
what they're going to get at the
transfiguration
and
yet they cry out in fear
they still don't recognize what's going
on they think he's a ghost you know
earlier in the chapter
herod antipas thinks it's john the
baptist come back from the dead even
though jesus and john the baptist
lived both at the same time so now you
know i mean they have this weird
afterlife theology herod is
superstitious well so are the disciples
you know every time in the in the bible
anybody thinks somebody's a ghost it's
all they're always wrong
and that happens after the resurrection
luke 24
and then
his angel in acts 12.
but anyway
so
they think he's a ghost and jesus says
don't be afraid it's i
well it's i in greek is ego me
i am
which can mean simply i i it's me it's i
but in the context that we've got so far
it probably means something more wow
because god in exodus 3 14 says i am
and the in the specific language echoing
me i am is used a number of times in
isaiah where god says i am the lord
anihu i am he and then in greek gets
translated egg away me
so he's revealing his deity to them
and
and just real quickly on that um
when i think about exodus chapter three
moses sees this strange sight and the
wording is
and he turned aside to see it
and it seems to make something of that
do you think there's a connection here
like don't let jesus pass by don't
ignore the burning bush in your midst
like turn aside and see pay attention is
there anything on that or am i just
making things up because i'm a preacher
uh he preaches well he's looking he's
looking for validation for his last
sermon
no
okay
all right so you're about to ask
it could be a legitimate application i'm
not sure that mark intended it okay so
so last last verse here of that section
not of the chapter um for they did not
understand about the loaves
but their hearts were hardened so that's
interesting that there was something in
the lesson of the lows that they should
have picked up on that would have made
sense of this experience yeah but they
didn't pick up on that lesson yeah what
what mean is this
well he's lord of nature
he can do nature miracles he can apply
food
and why not walk on water too
although this is beyond a new moses this
is more like the one his glory moses saw
okay so i think this is probably going
to sum up our chapter is there anything
that you want to say in summation of
this chapter before we move on
well it does end with the healings and
the people reaching for the fringe of
his garments if you want to make any
comments on that quite quite quite in
contrast with nazareth toward the
beginning of the chapter
jesus is so popular i mean they get out
of the boat
and word gets around and people it's
like people are swarming them almost
before they get out of the boat
mark is very emphatic on
sometimes people say okay in the gospels
the jewish people didn't like jesus
that's not true at all
they loved jesus
in in galilee where they knew him
it was it was the the elites in
jerusalem who you know turned people
against him especially jerusalemites but
jerusalem and nazareth right yeah and
nazareth you know where they could they
took him for granted um
but
but also notice that they're they're
copying the woman who reached out and
touched jesus cloak where here it says
they touched the fringe of his garment
and that's interesting because this
would be like the talit you've got the
uh
the seat the um
the fringes tassels yeah the blue the
blue and white tassels that are
commanded in the book of numbers
he's a good jew
and that's going to be important because
in the very next chapter
he's going to be dealing with some
pharisees who think that he's not a very
good jew because he doesn't follow their
pharisaic
traditions
and and so it helps set the the tone as
you're going in because what we're going
to find in chapter 7 is jesus actually
defends the torah
what he's against
not so much against
he doesn't he doesn't he's not even
attacking them doing traditions he's
attacking them attacking his disciples
for not keeping their traditions and
he's telling them what happens when your
traditions you value them over the torah
so
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