Audi's Worst Nightmare

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Summary

TLDRThe script narrates the thrilling and dangerous era of Group B rally racing, focusing on the rise of the Peugeot 205 T16. From its inception in the late 1970s to dominating the rally scene with two manufacturers' and two drivers' titles, the 205 T16 became the fastest rally car of its time. Despite initial challenges and tragedies that marred the sport, Peugeot's innovative mid-engine, all-wheel-drive car secured 16 event wins, outperforming competitors like Audi's Quattro. However, the extreme danger led to Group B's ban in 1987, ending an exhilarating chapter in motorsport history.

Takeaways

  • 🏎️ The 'Pjo 205 T16' was a dominant force in Group B rally racing, winning two drivers' and two manufacturers' titles within a short span of 5 years.
  • 🚗 The development of the 'Pjo 205' started as a family hatchback under the project code 'M24', with the aim to replace the '104' model.
  • 🌟 Talbot, acquired by PSA, brought expertise in building small family hatchbacks and was instrumental in the development of the rally car.
  • 🏆 The 'Pjo Talbot Sport' was formed with Jean Todt at the helm, aiming to capitalize on the marketing potential of rallying and the '205' model's success.
  • 🔧 The '205 T16' was designed with a mid-engine, four-wheel-drive layout, and a 1.8L turbocharged engine, setting it apart from front-wheel-drive competitors.
  • 🛠️ The car faced aerodynamic and handling issues initially, which were addressed through modifications to improve its performance.
  • 🏁 Ari Vatanen scored the first win for the '205 T16' in Finland, marking a turning point in its competitive history.
  • 🏆 The '205 T16' won the manufacturer's championship in 1985 with a full season entry, showcasing its potential against competitors like Audi.
  • 🔝 The 'Evo 2' variant of the '205 T16' introduced more power and aerodynamic improvements, pushing the car's capabilities further.
  • 🚨 The tragic accidents in the sport raised safety concerns, leading to the eventual banning of Group B in 1987.
  • 📉 Despite the ban, the '205 T16' continued to win races in 1986, securing another manufacturer's title and solidifying its legacy in rally history.

Q & A

  • What made Group B rally an era of extremes?

    -Group B rally was characterized by extreme power, extreme speed, and extreme danger, requiring participants to push the limits of physics and safety.

  • How successful was the Peugeot 205 T16 in Group B rallying?

    -The Peugeot 205 T16 was highly successful, winning two drivers' and two manufacturers' titles within the short five years of Group B competition.

  • What was the project code for the development of the Peugeot 205?

    -The project code for the development of the Peugeot 205 was M24.

  • What was the significance of Talbot in Peugeot's rally history?

    -Talbot, part of the assets absorbed by PSA Peugeot Citroen, had proven rally success with the Chrysler Lotus Sunbeam, influencing Peugeot's decision to enter Group B rallying.

  • Who was put in charge of Peugeot Talbot Sport, and why?

    -Jean Todt, an experienced rally co-driver and future motorsport management legend, was put in charge to lead Peugeot Talbot Sport due to his expertise and French nationality.

  • Why was the Peugeot 205 T16 delayed in its debut season?

    -The Peugeot 205 T16 was delayed due to the company's inability to build the homologation cars fast enough to meet the January 1st homologation requirement, causing a late start in the 1984 season.

  • What were the major challenges faced by the Peugeot 205 T16 during its development?

    -The Peugeot 205 T16 faced challenges with aerodynamic downforce and handling characteristics, particularly due to the off-center engine placement causing instability when airborne.

  • How did the Peugeot 205 T16 perform in its debut season?

    -Despite starting late, the Peugeot 205 T16 finished third in the manufacturers' standings in 1984, with notable victories in events like the Finnish Rally and the RAC Rally in Wales.

  • What changes were made to the Peugeot 205 T16 in its Evo 2 variant?

    -The Evo 2 variant of the Peugeot 205 T16 included a new turbocharger, engine cooling system, increased power, enhanced frame stiffness, and additional aerodynamic parts.

  • What led to the end of Group B rallying?

    -Group B rallying was ended due to a series of tragic accidents, including the deaths of Lancia driver Henri Toivonen and his co-driver Sergio Cresto, prompting the FIA to ban the category for safety reasons.

Outlines

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🏎️ The Rise of the pjo 205 T16: Group B Rally Domination

The first paragraph introduces the extreme world of Group B rally racing, highlighting the power, speed, and danger involved. It tells the story of the pjo 205 T16, a car that achieved remarkable success in a short time, winning two driver and two manufacturer titles within five years. The narrative begins with the development of the 205, a family hatchback that evolved into the fastest rally car in the world. The paragraph details the formation of pjo Talbert Sport, led by Jean Todd, and the decision to develop a rally car that would not only excel in competition but also boost the brand's image. The 205 T16 was designed to be fast and competitive within the rules, featuring a mid-engine and all-wheel-drive layout, setting it apart from its competitors.

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🏁 The pjo 205 T16's Challenges and Victories

This paragraph delves into the early challenges faced by the pjo 205 T16, including aerodynamic issues and handling characteristics that led to a slow start in the 1984 season. Despite these setbacks, the car managed to secure a fourth-place finish in its debut race and went on to win its first event in Finland with legendary driver Ari Vatanen. The narrative follows the car's progress as it secures more victories, including a significant win at the RAC rally in Wales, which contributed to pjo's third-place finish in the manufacturer standings. The 205 T16's performance in the following season is also highlighted, with wins in Monte Carlo and Sweden, showcasing its potential to compete with Audi's upgraded Quattro S1.

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🔧 Evolution and Tragedy: The pjo 205 T16's Turbulent Journey

The third paragraph discusses the evolution of the pjo 205 T16, including the introduction of the Evo 2 variant with a more powerful turbocharged engine and improved aerodynamics. The car's success continues with multiple victories, leading to Teimo Salinan securing the driver's championship. However, the paragraph also recounts tragic accidents involving Group B cars, raising questions about their safety and ultimately leading to the cancellation of Group B. Despite these tragedies, pjo Talbert Sport continued to compete, winning several more events and securing another manufacturer's title, with UA Kenan also claiming the driver's title.

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🏆 Legacy of the pjo 205 T16: The End of an Era

The final paragraph reflects on the legacy of the pjo 205 T16, which became the most successful car in Group B rally history with two manufacturer titles, two driver titles, and 16 event wins. It discusses the plans for the 405, which was intended to be an extended version of the 205 T16 to meet the requirements of the proposed Group S class. However, these plans were thwarted by the cancellation of Group B and the tragic deaths of rally drivers, which marked the end of an era in rally racing. The paragraph concludes with a look back at the achievements of the pjo 205 T16 and the impact it had on the sport.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Group B Rally

Group B Rally refers to a class of rally racing that was known for its high speeds, extreme power, and the dangerous nature of the competition. It was a period marked by technological advancements and intense competition among manufacturers. In the script, Group B is depicted as the setting for the rise of the pjo 205 T16, which became one of the most successful rally cars of its time.

💡pjo 205 T16

The pjo 205 T16, often shortened to T16, is a rally car developed by pjo Talbert Sport. It was designed to compete in the Group B rally championships and is highlighted in the script as a symbol of extreme performance and success, winning multiple titles and setting a record for event wins within the Group B category.

💡Jean Todt

Jean Todt is mentioned as an experienced rally co-driver and future motorsport management legend who was put in charge of pjo Talbert Sport. His leadership was instrumental in the development and success of the pjo 205 T16, showcasing the importance of skilled management in the high-stakes world of motorsport.

💡Homologation Special

A homologation special is a car built primarily to meet the requirements for racing in a particular class, such as Group B. In the script, it is mentioned that the racing T16 was essentially a homologation special, designed to look like the road-going 205 for sales purposes but mechanically very different, with a focus on performance rather than road legality.

💡Mid-Engined

Mid-engined refers to a car design where the engine is located in the central part of the vehicle, typically behind the driver but ahead of the rear axle. The script notes that the pjo 205 T16, like its competitor the Renault 5 Turbo, was mid-engined, which contributed to its exceptional handling and performance in rally racing.

💡All-Wheel Drive

All-wheel drive, or AWD, is a drivetrain configuration where all four wheels of a car receive power from the engine. The script mentions that the pjo 205 T16 was equipped with AWD, which gave it a significant advantage in traction and stability on various rally terrains.

💡Ari Vatanen

Ari Vatanen is a legendary Finnish rally driver who is mentioned in the script as having won the Finnish rally in the pjo 205 T16. His victory was a significant milestone for the car and the team, demonstrating the T16's competitiveness against other leading rally cars of the time.

💡Talbot Sport

Talbot Sport was the motorsport division of the Talbot company, which was responsible for developing and managing the company's rally racing efforts. In the script, Talbot Sport is highlighted as the entity that took on the development of the pjo 205 T16, leading to its success in the Group B rally championships.

💡RAC Rally

The RAC Rally, now known as the Wales Rally GB, is a prominent event in the World Rally Championship. The script mentions the RAC Rally as the final event of the season where pjo Talbert Sport won, contributing to their manufacturer's title in their debut season.

💡Group S

Group S was a proposed successor to Group B, focusing on prototype racing cars with fewer homologation requirements. The script discusses the plans of pjo to adapt the 205 T16 for Group S competition, extending the chassis to improve stability and performance, before the cancellation of Group B and Group S due to safety concerns.

💡Lancia Delta S4

The Lancia Delta S4 is another rally car mentioned in the script, which was introduced as a new challenger to the pjo 205 T16. It was known for its speed and performance, winning the RAC Rally in its debut and becoming a significant competitor in the final years of Group B racing.

Highlights

Group B rally era was characterized by extreme power, speed, and danger.

Poujoulat Talbot Sport (PJS) achieved unprecedented success with the 205 T16, winning two drivers and two manufacturers' titles within 5 years.

The development of the 205 T16 began with the Project M24, aiming to replace the 104 and incorporate expertise from the Talbot marque.

PJS saw the marketing potential of having their new hatchback compete in the thrilling Group B rally series.

Jean Todt was appointed to lead PJS Talbot Sport, bringing his experience as a rally co-driver and future motorsport management legend.

The 205 T16 was designed with a mid-engine, four-wheel-drive layout, influenced by Audi's Quattro and Renault's 5 Turbo.

The car was eligible for the 2 to 2.5 L class with a minimum weight of 890 kg, maximizing weight distribution and performance.

PJS had to build a homologation special to meet Group B rules, which required at least 200 road-legal production cars.

The T16's silhouette racing car design was primarily a steel frame with a thin composite veneer to resemble the road car.

The 205 T16 faced aerodynamic and handling challenges, requiring modifications for increased downforce and stability.

Ari Vatanen achieved the T16's first win at the Finnish rally, marking a significant upset against Audi's dominance.

Despite competing in only half of the 1984 season, PJS finished third in the manufacturer standings, setting the stage for a full season entry.

In 1985, the T16 continued its winning streak with victories in Monte Carlo, Sweden, and Portugal, showcasing its dominance.

The introduction of the Evo 2 variant of the 205 T16 increased power to 550 horsepower and introduced aerodynamic and frame improvements.

Timo Salonen secured the driver's championship for PJS with five wins, making the 205 T16 the most successful car in Group B rally.

The tragic accidents in the 1986 season, including the deaths of Henri Toivonen and Sergio Cresto, led to the banning of Group B.

PJS planned to adapt the 205 T16 for the proposed Group S class, but these plans were halted by the cancellation of Group B.

Transcripts

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rot B rally was an era of

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extremes extreme power extreme speed

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extreme danger so what did it take to be

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the best to take on Madness and win to

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cheat death and laugh in the face of

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physics trusting their wrath would be

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repelled by a mere steel cage pjo

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finding more success than anyone else

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won two drivers and two manufacturers

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titles in the short 5 years of Group B

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insanity but nothing lasts forever this

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is the story of the pjo 205

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t16 far away from the brutal rally

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stages that would soon Propel pjo to the

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top of motorsport's toughest series a

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new family hatchback was in development

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project M24 started in the late 1970s

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was P's internal code for the car that

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would repl the 104 following the 1977

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collapse of chlery Europe PSA Pau

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Citroen had hoovered up the pieces

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absorbing Sima and The Roots group who

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had experience building small family

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hatchbacks additionally within the

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assets of the roots group was the little

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known talber mark and it will become

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clear soon why I mention it with newly

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acquired expertise and production

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facilities P's 104 successor would be

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everything that it needed to be

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practical reliable enough and cheap so

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how did it end up being the fastest

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rally car in the world during

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development of the 205 pau's now hotly

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anticipated new hatchback Talbert

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managed to pick up a WRC manufacturers

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Championship with a Chrysler Lotus

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Sunbeam WRC which was at the time

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governed by the group four rules was

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about to undergo a major rule change the

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promise to make rallying the most most

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electrifying sport money could buy a

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ticket to and pjo like many others saw

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the huge marketing potential of having

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their new hatchback be the star in what

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would surely be an exceptionally popular

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sporting spectacle Talbert had proven

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they could make that dream come true and

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so the pjo chairman formed pjo Talbert

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Sport and feeling that its leader should

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be French experienced rally co- driver

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and future Motorsport management Legend

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Jean Todd was quickly put in charge with

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the 205 not expected to be available to

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buy until 1983 Pau Talbert sport were

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not in any rush to develop their new

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rally car project M24 rally wasn't

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initiated until late 1981 and progress

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was slow with most of the work happening

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at Talbert's Coventry headquarters in

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the UK but word came from above that

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this project was of utmost importance to

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Pou and so development was moved mov to

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France where things began to move a lot

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more quickly with the opportunity to

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reinvent Pou is a motorsport brand and

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with the accounting department convinced

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of the adage of what wins on Sunday

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sells on Monday the project had a near

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infinite budget the goal was clear make

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the fastest possible car within the

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confines of the rules oh and make sure

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it looks a little bit like a 205 the

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road goinging 205 being an affordable

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hatchback was even in its sportiest

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trims front-wheel drive the days of

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front-wheel drive were long over in

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rally P's French Rivals of Renault had

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chosen to convert their Renault 5 turbo

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into a mid-engined rear wheeel drive

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rally car but p w about to start dealing

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in half measures the engine moved to the

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middle like the R5 but power would be

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sent to all four wheels much more like

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Audi's Quattro that power would come

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from a 1.8 L turbocharged in line four

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which would be mounted transversely to

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maximize the weight distribution benefit

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of mounting the engine in the middle

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once applying the forced induction

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displacement multiplier the car was

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eligible for the 2 to 2 1/2 L class

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which had a minimum weight of just 890

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kg while the M24 rally by now called the

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205 turbo 16 often shorten to just t16

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was designed to look a lot like the

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normal 205 for the sake of aiding sales

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the cars had pretty much nothing in

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common as such poo like most everybody

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else competing in group b would need to

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build a homologation special the group b

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rules stipulated that all competing cars

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must be based on a road legal production

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car of which at least 200 examples had

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been made the term homologation special

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refers to cars that were built solely

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for the purpose of homologating a team's

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racing cars not exactly in the spirit of

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the rules but all of that went out the

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window pretty quickly the racing t16 was

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little more than a silhouette racing car

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a steel frame dressed in a thin

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composite veneer of perso 205 that

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served to make it look a little bit like

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the road car and as sailable ad space

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the brutal machine that lived underneath

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was built for just one purpose to win

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the Hope was to have the car homologated

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for Group B rally competition by the

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beginning of the 1984 season The

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Pedestrian 205 had gone on sale in 1983

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but the company couldn't build the t16

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homologation cars fast enough in order

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to meet the January 1st homologation

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requirement this unfortunately left Pou

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late to the party in 1984 starting the

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season from the fifth event at the Tor

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cour the car managed to finish an

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impressive fourth on debut in the hands

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of Jean Pierre Nicholas issues around

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the cars aerodynamic downforce and

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strange inair characteristics were

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reaffirmed by the drivers the feeling

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was that the car needed more downforce

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and the fact that the engine had been

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mounted off to one side predominantly

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behind the passenger seat meant that

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anytime the car was in the air it had a

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tendency to try and roll on its side the

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car didn't score any points at the

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following event and the two events after

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that it didn't compete at all as the

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team set about trying to solve its

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strange handling characteristics but

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modifications were limited in scope due

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to the homology requirements of any

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major changes round nine was the Finnish

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rally and the pjo 205 t16 in the hands

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of legendary Finnish rally driver Ari

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veran managed its first win an upset to

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the Audi team who had up to this point

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in the season being dominant with their

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Audi Quattro and drivers Volta roll hanu

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Micha and drivers Championship leader

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Stig Blan the next event the Sano rally

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in Italy saw vonin take his second

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victory in the 205 t16 a statement of

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intent by the POU team that they were

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ready to fight at the very front of the

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field pjo chose not to contest the Ivory

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Coast rally as it didn't contribute

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towards manufacturer Championship points

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that year as venan had missed too many

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events that year because of pu's late

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start he didn't have a chance at

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fighting for the driver's Championship

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but the final event of the year the RAC

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rally in Wales did count towards

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manufacturers Championship points and

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the event Was Won by vonin and his

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co-driver Terry Harryman to end their

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debut season on a high despite only

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competing in half of the championship

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points scoring events in 1984 Pou

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managed to finish an impressive third in

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the manufacturer standings and hopes

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were high that with a full season entry

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pjo Talbert sport might be able to take

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the fight to 1984's winners Audi despite

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Audi's upgraded Quattro S1 being

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unveiled in late 1984 vonin continued

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his winning streak into early 1985

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winning the first event of the season in

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Monte Carlo pjo Talbert sport had built

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a rocket ship of a rally car and it

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looked unlikely that anybody would be

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able to catch them Audi had finished

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second to Pou in the first event and the

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story repeated itself at event number

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two in Sweden as well with AR Vin taking

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a second victory at the third round in

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Portugal the 205 would once again win

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but this time it wasn't in the hands of

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venan rather his teammate teimo salinan

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who claimed a decisive victory over

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second place which was a by now very

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outdated rear wheeel drive luncher 037

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Audi had been relegated to third the

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fourth event was the Safari rally in

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Kenya and is known to be one of the

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toughest events on the WRC calendar the

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205 five didn't come close to troubling

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the podium in this event but nor did

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their main competitor Audi the event Was

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Won by Toyota and the Celica TCT at the

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Tor course the fifth event of the Season

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tragedy struck luncher driver AOA was

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killed when his 037 collided with a tree

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the event was tragic and it wouldn't be

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the last tragedy to beset the sport the

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Tor course Was Won by Jean ragnotti in a

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Runo five Maxi turbo the tragic accident

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in Corsica raised questions over the

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safety of Group B cars but the

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championship marched forward and nothing

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was done round six was the Acropolis

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rally in Greece where teimo salinan

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grabbed his second win of the season for

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pjo with reigning drivers Champion stick

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blest coming second for Audi it seemed

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all but certain pjo would be taking that

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Crown away round seven in New Zealand

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and again salinan took Victory only

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narrowly beating his teammate Ari vtin

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the team had also introduced the new Evo

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2 variant of the 205 t16 in New Zealand

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the upgrades included a new turbocharger

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and a new engine cooling system which

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together pushed the car's power from

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around 350 horsepower to 550 although in

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a vent trim that would be limited to 500

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for reliability reasons additionally

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there were changes made to the frame to

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increased stiffness and additional Arrow

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parts were added to improve aerodynamic

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characteristics and handling round eight

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in Argentina would see disaster strike

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for the pjo team as one of their cars

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suffered an enormous accident aranan had

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a colossal crash at near full speed the

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flimsy composite Bodywork of the

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silhouette racing car fell away

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shockingly easily but thankfully the

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roll cage managed to save both his and

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his co- drivers lives

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at the same event teimo salinan would

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take yet another Victory and not just of

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the Argentinian rally but of the entire

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driver's Championship with five wins up

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to that point he had become unbeatable

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in the driver's standings and Pou was

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one step closer to achieving the

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Motorsport Glory they had been so

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desperately hoping for despite having

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already won the driver's Championship

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salinan didn't let up fighting hard to

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take yet another win in his home rally

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in Finland at the following event once

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again beating Audi who could only manage

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second place Audi would exact their

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Revenge at the following event in Italy

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snatching Victory thanks to vter R but

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it was already over pjo Talbert sport

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reigned Supreme at the final event of

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the season however a new Challenger

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emerged the long anticipated larger

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Delta S4 dominated the RAC rally scoring

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a one to finish on debut All Eyes would

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be on lancher going into

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1986 the fight was on round one in Monte

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Carlo Was Won by Henry toyan and the new

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blisteringly Fast lancha Delta S4 pjo

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who had recently done the same thing to

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Audi came a distant second place round

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two in Sweden saw Pou catch a lucky

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break with Henry toyin's brand new Delta

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S4 suffering an engine failure handing

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P's UA Kenan the victory with the other

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Delta S4 of Marco alen managing a very

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close second place the following event

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was the Portuguese rally one of the

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sports darkest ever days the driver of a

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competing Factory Ford RS200 lost

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control of his car going around a corner

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something you'll have noticed about

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Group B was the crowd's affinity for

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closeness to the track undoubted ly this

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was a thrilling spectator experience but

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everybody involved especially event

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organizers who were responsible for

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making sure the events are safe should

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have known better the car barreled into

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the crowd three Spectators were killed

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30 more were injured all of the factory

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drivers immediately withdrew from the

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event leaving only some Privateer

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entries left competing the event Was Won

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by Rena 5 Maxi turbo following the

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horrendous accident in Portugal the

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writing was on the wall for Group B at

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least in its current form despite the

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tragedy the championship moved on the

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next event was in Kenya which was won

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again by Toyota the following round was

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the famous Tor course in France a th000

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kilom of twisting turning tarmac across

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just 24 stages Henry toyan and the

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lancher Delta S4 with the favorites to

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win toyan and his co-driver Sergio

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crusto were setting blisteringly fast

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stage times when on a particularly

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secluded part of the rally the car left

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the track and plummeted into a ravine

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being caught by a tree both occupants

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were killed in the accident and for FEA

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the sports governing body this was the

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final straw they announced that group b

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would be banned from 1987 and also

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announced a development freeze on all

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current cars for the remainder of the

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1986 season Jean Todd head of Pau

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Talbert sport was furious at this

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announcement his team had a car that

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they believed would be competitive for

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years to come and he decried the fact

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that FEA had promised at least 2 years

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of notice before any major rule changes

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F's rebuttal was that the current

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situation was untable the 1986 season

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powered on pjo ended up winning the Tor

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to course and the following two events

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in Greece and New Zealand in the hands

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of uar Kenan lancher driver Mickey bazon

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would take victory in Argentina before

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defending Champion teimo salinan would

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take Victory again in his home rally in

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Finland with fellow Finn and fellow pjo

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driver UA Kenan taking second place

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lancha took back victory in Italy but

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were beaten again in W in the end Pou

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came out on top claiming a second

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consecutive manufacturer's title and P

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driver uar Kenan got the driver's title

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too this made the pjo 205 T6 the most

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successful car in group b rally with two

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manufacturers titles two drivers titles

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and a total of 16 event wins beating

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Audi's single manufacturers title two

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drivers titles and 13 overall event wins

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it had been known since 1985 that FEA

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was exploring the possibility of

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replacing Group B with a a more

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prototypes class in

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1988 du group s many of the established

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Group B manufacturers were working hard

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on their group s follow-ups which would

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require only 10 cars for homologation

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Pau had been working on ways to further

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improve the 205 t16 in order to compete

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in group s but the engineers couldn't

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find their way around one specific issue

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the

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wheelbase they knew that longer cars

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were more stable and despite its

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appearance the 205 t16 had been one of

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the longer cars competing in group b but

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it just wasn't long enough they wanted

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to make it longer without distorting the

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shape so much as to make the 205 badge

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even more laughable than it already was

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and Pou was launching a potential

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solution to this problem in

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1987 the

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405 the plan was to do exactly what

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they' done with the 205 and build a

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competition spec version of the 405

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really was based on the 205 t16 and they

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extended the chassis in order to drive

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sales of the new car but all of that

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came to an end with fe's cancellation of

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Group B and the proposed group s in the

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wake of Henry toyen and and Sergio

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cresto deaths to hear launcher's full

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rally story check out this video on

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screen now if you enjoyed this one leave

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