HX Stomp for Bass: The Perfect Mini Pedalboard w/Ian Martin Allison
Summary
TLDRIn this engaging script, a musician discusses the evolution of their compact pedal setup, transitioning from a larger board to a travel-friendly Stomp for portability. They explore the versatility of the Stomp, emphasizing the importance of certain pedals like the compressor and the preamp, and share their creative process of blending synth sounds with effects like fuzz, octave, and chorus. The conversation delves into the nuances of achieving unique bass tones, from the classic pop synth to the gritty, distorted sounds, highlighting the artist's journey in finding the perfect balance between simplicity and sonic complexity.
Takeaways
- 🎛 The musician discusses the evolution of their pedal setup from a larger board to a more streamlined one for travel purposes, focusing on essential pedals.
- 🔊 They mention the importance of having a compressor in their setup for adjusting the output of the bass and for the visual feedback provided by LED metering.
- 🔧 The 'Stomp' pedal is highlighted as the central piece of equipment for creating various sounds, having evolved to replace a more extensive pedal board.
- 🎶 The musician appreciates the Noble preamp for its clean sound, noting that it doesn't distort in a musical way and is not meant to be dirty.
- 🔩 A practical tip is shared about using a blanking plate for an XLR to prevent sound engineers from accidentally unplugging the musician's setup mid-gig.
- 🎵 The script describes the creation of a specific sound using the Stomp, involving an octave, fuzz, and chorus, and how it differs from traditional synth sounds.
- 🚫 The musician expresses dissatisfaction with the Boss OCT pedal for lacking a 'bottom' to the sound and prefers the base OCT for its improved sound quality.
- 🎤 They discuss the versatility of their current setup, which allows them to play a wide range of gigs with minimal equipment, including the use of flats and rounds on their bass.
- 🔊 The use of a Fender VI King's spring reverb and tremolo is reminisced upon, which influenced the musician's sound and is recreated in the Stomp.
- 🎶 The script mentions building patches in the HX Stomp, such as 'Montana,' which utilizes the tessellator effect for chord context in recordings.
- 🔁 The musician's use of parallel loops and effects blocks within the Stomp to run external pedals in a loop is touched upon, emphasizing the flexibility of their setup.
Q & A
What type of sound setup has evolved for travel purposes in the script?
-The sound setup has evolved from a larger pedal board with more pedals to a more compact 'stomp' setup for travel purposes.
What is the role of the compressor in the described setup?
-The compressor is used externally to adjust the output of the bass and provides visual feedback through LEDs, which is important for the user's 'placebo-prone brain'.
What does the user refer to as the 'heavy lifting' in their sound setup?
-The 'heavy lifting' refers to the primary sound processing done by the 'stomp' device, which generates the wild sounds.
Why does the user prefer not to use the drive feature on the COO?
-The user finds that they rarely use the drive feature on the COO because they achieve their saturation sounds from the 'stomp' and prefer a cleaner sound.
What is the Noble preamp mentioned in the script and how is it used?
-The Noble preamp is a device that the user has on their main board and uses for its clean sound, which never distorts in a musical way as it's not meant to be dirty.
What is the purpose of the blanking plate for an XLR mentioned in the script?
-The blanking plate for an XLR is used to prevent sound engineers from unplugging the user's setup during a gig, which could result in losing the sound setup.
How does the user feel about the Boss OCT in the script?
-The user is initially excited about the Boss OCT but finds it lacking in the bottom sound, which is a drawback for them.
What is the user's approach to creating a synth sound with the stomp?
-The user creates a synth sound by using an octave, fuzz, and chorus within the stomp, and then slightly distorting it with parallel drive and chorus for a more pleasing effect.
How does the user feel about traveling with their compact pedal board?
-The user loves traveling with their compact pedal board as it fits in the inside pocket of a jacket and is suitable for carry-on travel.
Outlines
🎸 Evolution of Bass Pedal Setup
The speaker discusses the evolution of their bass pedal setup from a larger board to a more travel-friendly, compact version. They emphasize the importance of a compressor for adjusting the output of the bass and the use of a stomp device for generating various sounds, including fuzz and octave effects. The speaker also mentions the Noble preamp for its clean sound and the versatility of their setup for different gigs, including the use of an external compressor and a blanking plate for XLR to prevent sound loss during live performances.
🎵 Crafting Distinctive Bass Sounds
The paragraph delves into the process of creating unique bass sounds by layering effects such as octave, fuzz, and chorus within a stomp device. The speaker compares the synthesized bass sound to electronic music, noting its pleasing quality despite the absence of a traditional sine wave. They also discuss the use of drive and chorus to enhance the sound for live performances, and the preference for using an amp for tracking rather than live performances, with a focus on achieving a specific 'Ultimate amp' sound through various settings.
🎶 Influence of Classic Music on Bass Playing
The speaker reflects on the influence of classic artists like Glenn Campbell on their bass playing style, highlighting the use of a Fender VI King with a spring reverb and tremolo. They discuss the unique sound produced by playing bass through this setup and how it has shaped their approach to creating bass lines. The paragraph also touches on the speaker's experience learning from iconic bass lines, such as those by Adam Clayton from U2, and the impact of these influences on their own sound.
🔊 Integrating Effects and Loops in Bass Performance
This paragraph focuses on the technical aspects of using effects and loops in bass performance. The speaker talks about the use of a tessellator for creating chord contexts and the importance of the location of the stomp device in their pedal setup. They also mention the use of parallel loops for running external pedals and the challenges of integrating a stomp device with a board full of single pedals. The speaker discusses their approach to using compressors, octaves, and fuzz effects, and the strategic placement of the stomp device to ensure optimal sound quality.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Synth Sound
💡Stomp
💡Pedal Board
💡Compressor
💡Saturation
💡Noble Preamp
💡Direct Out (DI)
💡Octave Pedal
💡Amp Sim
💡Spring Reverb
💡Tessellator
Highlights
The evolution of a synth sound using a filter, fuzz, and octave sign in a stomp for travel purposes.
Transition from a larger pedal board setup to a more streamlined and portable setup.
The importance of having a compressor externally for flexibility and the role of metering for the musician's satisfaction.
Utilization of the Stomp for generating a wide range of sounds with its heavy lifting capabilities.
The minimal use of the COO's drive feature, opting for cleaner sounds and saturation from other sources.
Innovative use of a blanking plate for XLR to prevent sound loss during live performances.
The preference for using a pick for more than 50% of the performance, impacting gear setup.
The便携性 of a compact pedal board that fits into a jacket pocket for travel.
The absence of an external octave pedal and reliance on the Stomp for octave sounds.
Comparison between the Stomp's octave sound and a traditional three-leaf octave, highlighting improvements.
Creative use of drive and chorus to enhance and customize the octave sound.
The musician's approach to building synth sounds on top of the octave foundation.
Minimal use of amps live, with a preference for tracking in the studio.
Description of the 'Ultimate amp' setting in the Stomp, simulating a classic bass rig.
The versatility of the Ampeg IMA4 bass with different types of strings for various sounds.
The emotional connection to a Fender VI King and its role in shaping the musician's sound.
Use of the tessellator effect to create chord context in a recording environment.
The impact of Adam Clayton's bass line from U2's 'Joshua Tree' on the musician's playing style.
Discussion on the creative potential of using parallel loops and effects blocks within the Stomp.
Strategic placement of the Stomp on the pedal board for easy access and integration with other pedals.
The use of a Studio preamp, EQ, and tape emulator for a unique DI sound.
Transcripts
that's so it's more of a synth sound like a filter and a fuzz and a octave sign okay like classic pop
synth is that all within the stomp it didn't start that way but then for travel purposes it
has evolved into that like it it start you know bigger pedal board more pedals three leaf stuff
but then I've gotten like you know like you say it's so sometimes fun when you don't have all the
[ __ ] right and you have to kind of try to find something in the stomp that will what are your
like okay I'm I'm taking the stomp I'm taking a really stripped down thing but what's the like
the two or three other things you have to have on the board that you can't rep ladies ladies
and gentlemen we are so prepared here I made this ladies and gentlemen I made this little
board let's see if I can get it in both we'll get it in this shop it fits in the inside pocket of a
jacket yeah and and the and the wide shot this is um what is the yeah this is the uh so basically I
run into a compressor I like to have a compressor externally okay uh because I like to be able to
change it depending on that output of the base I like to even see some metering yeah it helps my
it helps my Placebo uh prone brain you know what I mean absolutely so the LEDs give you that right
they change color yeah okay cool yes and um then I'm hitting the Stomp all the sounds are coming
like all the you know wild sounds right are coming from here the heavy lifting is being done by the
absolutely and then into the COO which has drive but I find that I almost never use that um I find
that I'm using it pretty clean because I'm getting my saturation sounds from this got I I love the
noble preamp I know you've had one of those for a long time that's new addition that block in
here right are you using that block in here the oh you know no when when I use it with you mean the
actual yeah the actual Noble yes because I I have that on my this board back here that I'm plugged
into at the moment and um it's just clean clean clean it will never distort yes you know it's
never made to even still people are like oh how do you get the noble to grind like God you'd have to
feed it like a double line level signal I mean it won't and it and it won't do it in a musical way
either like it's not meant to be dirty this can be dirty in a really cool way so I sort of think
of this as like a almost like a boutique sand amp in a the J yeah the Jad Freer or Yad Freer
I don't know how yeah but um it also gives you if you want to just take a direct out and not have
any of the preamp you can do that I mean come on like this dude what this in here first time I've
ever seen that just a blanking plate for an XLR show the people that closeup look at this see I
did this because often times I would you know have some juicy thing dialed up here right and then the
engineer would just plug into this and I'd look down halfway through the gig and I'd be like
God damn it everything's missing yeah yeah so you can get these on um Amazon and they're just like
little blanks and I think it's it's sort of like pedal board jewelry I have it uh plugged into a
dc7 perfect me too pick on the bottom just in case I play a lot with a pick probably geez more than
more than 50% of the stuff I do is with a pick okay um and on this little mono board it fits in
the mono tick and I absolutely love traveling with this it feels so yeah I'm carryon only always um
or I to be sometimes if I so if you got a weekend fly date clothes pedals bace carry on carry on
100% always and uh so this will you know go on the tick and maybe go on the back of the mono
gig bag and it's amazing um so interesting to me that you don't have an external octave pedal so
you've come to the point where you feel like you can get enough out of the stomp for that
cuz that was always one of the earlier weaknesses for me with the stomp yes with the octave thing so
check it out it's getting better it it is getting better check it out when they did the boss OCT in
it the bver right I was so excited and then I went and played it and it doesn't have bottom
right there's no [ __ ] bottom on that sound it's a drag and it's a drag and then I was like well I
guess I'm back to the goddamn base OCT but the crazy thing is once I spent some time with that
sound and I distort it slightly with with like a parallel Drive parallel Path Drive put a touch of
chorus on it very happy like it does um here let me just let me just turn it on which is for people
who can't see this which is no one cuz it's off shot but you're about to play this sound in the
stomp sitting next to an original three leaf octav and I love I love the three leaf but this sound
man solid it's like it's sounds like hyper Ballad by bork which is what this [Music] is yeah right
it's that and it's very it's not synthy right it does not have that square wavy thing let's
compare it yeah um it's not this sound yeah electronic music immediately yes sine wave
but it's almost kind of in a way it's really pleasing just in a different way and so what
I do to it to kind of like J it up right is um just a touch of Drive nope [Laughter] a touch
of drive and [Music] chorus oh and then it kind of moves just slightly yeah and it's absolutely
massive like on a stage yeah sounds good in a big room yes and it doesn't have that sort of hollowed
out like the oc2 thing which I love has like like a hollowed out thing but this seems to almost work
this works on like a pop record sure in a way that I've Maybe sort of struggled sometimes with quote
like the cool octs do you know what I'm saying OC 2s three leaf Etc pearls those kind of things ex
do you build your synth sound on top of that is that the basis of it yes okay cool yes so like
if I have um here I'll show you like I'll pull up a synth sound here so everything is based on that
octave right and so then it's like chorus so sorry no it's octave Y into a fuzz into envelope into
chorus [Music] right and that this is all in the stomp now right yes okay it's all in the
stomp so how much are you traveling and using an amp versus amp Sim csim I'm only ever using
an amp if I'm I never use it like I don't use it very often I'm using it when I'm tracking mostly
I almost never use it live wow yes so if there's a Target right if there's like a Target that someone
wants me to hit so there's a setting that I use in here that I call Ultimate amp and it's basically
an SVT into a dual cab okay and what's amazing about the Dual cab is you can select like a 810
and and mic it up with what you would mic it with like a classic SVT thingz you can also send that
signal into like a 112 guitar ramp oh because the one because the 810 so it's like a Mike C
Royal Blood set like you can split it up like that split it up and it's not so much to necessarily
get a bunch of distortion from the 12 but it's to get like a top that's interesting so and and this
isn't distorted this isn't crazy also this is a base with Flats on it right but but it's [Music]
um yeah sounds big and Punchy but it also has some top to
it
okay this is your base right this is the yeah this is the a mik l ima4 it has Flats on it
um I'm just like my first question about it is like you feel like you can get through a ton of
different gigs with this like already what you've played as little as you've played sounds like big
range there's a huge range I mean I with Flats yeah and I I have another one that has rounds
but um and I most actually probably play that one more but for some reason today man like you
were coming over and I I just started to play this instrument and I was like oh I really I was vibing
with it today you know this instrument [Music] sounds like a jazz bass sure but it has less
top than a jazz and then if you solo out the neck pickup it's got a p bases kind of
thing oh there you go right [Music] yeah and then the bridge pickup on
it two let's go some twang wow yeah it has some twang but it also it also has
bottom so for me it's like a really excellent um trigger yeah for a bunch of the sounds that
I use absolutely and and the one too that that I just I want to show you that is a big deal so
I you know using it with amps and playing with a pick or you know using it with the syn thing
playing with fingers and doing that on on with the artist I play for but another big one um
my grandparents and my my parents loved like Glenn Campbell and and so um you're sitting
right in front of my dad's old this is a vibro king Fender VI king that's a spring reverb into
trim and so I he bought this new in '92 okay so when I started to play bass he had this and
he he plays a little guitar um and I just would play my bass through this too and the interesting
thing about how Fender amps were made is that the spring comes before the tremolo in the circuit so
what happens is ah but you've now recreated in the stor of course and so for the longest time I
just thought it was dumb that like you know bass shouldn't do that but what happens is the spring
yeah gets hit by the trim and then if you play two notes yeah yeah yeah straight into Johnny
Cash yeah yeah and so I decided like there was this moment for me where you know I I heard Glen
Campbell you know witch lineman right yeah
yeah and I went oh my God that sound is so me yeah from from my childhood and so
it was this really interesting thing of like wo i I got way into this so
I I yeah I built this patch it's called Montana in the HX stomp um it has this
thing I use called tessellator you ever use tesor man like tessellator so if you
play right it grabs a snap and now you know now you have chord [Music] context
[Music] you know absolutely and I have to say man like that sound in a in like
a recording environment yeah beautiful like if people are like hey what's the
vibe what should the vibe be yeah and you play and you go people are like holy [ __ ]
if it's the right the right thing before you came over too I was thinking about
thinking about Adam Clayton oh yeah and my the first Baseline I ever learned uh as a kid was
this right yeah and to me it's like the most perfect Baseline ever and like he plays it harder
now live but like on that Joshua Tree record it's so it's so soft and pulsy and lovely and simple
and he gets you know he gets hate for you know but it's funny cuz man he has this thing of he said
I've heard him say before I'm not the best bass player in You2 but I am the bass player in You2
oh that's really good I know because Edge you know Edge plays Bas too right but I think like that the
the two right Glen Campbell cash Highwayman um and then Adam Clayton first Baseline I ever learned
and then that translates to like so if you then put on a sound for that right like if you put
on like if you put on the drive and the chorus and the octave and you play that same kind of
thing maybe you're just hanging yeah like I did a session the the
other day where there was a thing you know that they they'd worked on worked
on worked on there were all these different things yeah yeah [Music]
man
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than I don't know but that's [ __ ] one note like what you can do with one note and one
Melody I love it yeah oh my that was so that was so lovely what a beautiful Melody and do you use
the parallel Loops the the effects blocks for for Loops within the stomp to run an external
pedal in a loop right so if I have anything that's why the stomp on this board actually
on both my boards is at that location I was going to ask you about that cuz my OCD was kicking out
I was like you said it goes compressor and then it goes to the right yeah it's because I don't
have any switching right but I want access to this got right so you know I have these little
plugs in here um but I you know pop them out and when I'm when I have another pedal that I need to
use right I just of course do that and um and I have some filter sounds in here that I think are
really are really cool I'm always pretty Amazed by the Legacy sounds I know from the old big like dl4
and got a purple guy up here hey me too I got one home still in the box y amazing really oh
yeah and a dl4 that looks like it was in War yes that was the coolest it is the coolest pedal ever
the Looper in that pedal it's the greatest yes and only 14 seconds of record time or something crazy
that's the other thing though is like if you're using the stomp in a board full of multi full of
um single pedals where do you put it you have to commit to a location a location and by committing
to a location you kind of commit to what it's going to do you do unless it's the only thing
that's doing it yes exactly you know what I mean I I've struggled with that I think like um if I
have a uh external octave that's cool that can come before if I have an external fuzz cool that
can come before as well I'm fine with that but anything else yeah like drives I don't want drives
to be before everything in the stomp I don't want reverbs or uh so I find that if I'm using it with
external there's three things that can come before comp uh octave fuzz that's it comp octave fuzz M
and the preamp for you is always on the end the preamp for me is on the end because because I'm
never using a preamp um unless it's a DI okay so the DI is going to be at the end with with all
you know sending everything out to wherever it needs to go I have a thing called like ultimate
di right in here and it's just it's one patches it's one of the patches and it's it's uh it's
for people that don't use any effects but they want to have like a nice big sort of saturated
clean sound and so part of that is like choosing the compressor part of it's choosing the preamp
and EQ so I'm using instead of um using the noble thing I I use the Studio pre and then EQ and then
tape reel do you ever use tape oh no I don't is it a a stud emulator like a tape machine emulator
ahic oh no um there's my week next week so so right like um let me just show you without yeah
so my external compressor is off right so just just you [Music] know okay yep here's with the
tape oh hello just give some saturation yeah sure it just brings saturation up and
it brings like almost mid-range into into focus in really a cool way and it's nice
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