Pastor in Bethlehem denounces US evangelicals for abandoning Palestinian Christians

Summary

In this video transcript, Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac discusses the plight of Palestinian Christians amidst the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. She highlights the Israeli government's attacks on Palestinian Christians, the lack of international outrage, and the impact of occupation on their community. The conversation also touches on the role of American evangelicals in supporting Israel and the broader implications of US foreign policy on the conflict.

Takeaways

• 🏛️ The Israeli government is accused of portraying itself as the defender of Western civilization against Islamist extremists, specifically Hamas, while simultaneously attacking Palestinian Christians.
• 🕍 The script describes the bombing of one of the oldest Christian churches in Gaza, resulting in the death of 16 Palestinian Christians seeking shelter there, highlighting the vulnerability of this community.
• 📉 The cancellation of holiday celebrations in Bethlehem by Palestinian Christians in solidarity with those in Gaza, indicating a sense of unity and shared struggle among Palestinians.
• 🛑 The U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom reported that Israeli policies, such as the separation barrier, have restricted the rights of Palestinian Christians, impeding access to holy sites.
• 🔍 The lack of outrage from American Christians, particularly evangelicals, over the persecution of Palestinian Christians is noted, questioning why this issue has been largely ignored.
• 🤝 Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac, an academic dean and pastor, is introduced as a key voice discussing the plight of Palestinian Christians and the broader humanitarian crisis in the region.
• 🏙️ The situation in Gaza for Palestinian Christians is dire, with a lack of medicine and food, and the destruction of places of worship, leading to a sense of desperation and helplessness.
• 🚨 There has been an increase in anti-Christian violence in the West Bank, with attacks on clergy, cemeteries, and churches, suggesting a targeted campaign against the Christian community.
• 🗣️ The narrative that blames Hamas and Islamic extremism for the exodus of Palestinian Christians is challenged, with the actual reasons being the harsh conditions of life under occupation.
• 💔 A feeling of betrayal by Christian evangelicals in the U.S. is expressed, particularly due to their support for Israel despite the impact of its policies on Palestinian Christians.
• 🌍 The script calls for a shift in focus to the sanctity of human life and the need for faith leaders to hold politicians accountable for their role in the ongoing conflict.

Q & A

What is the Israeli government's stance according to the transcript?

The Israeli government is portrayed as claiming to be the last line of defense for Western Civilization against Islamist threats, specifically fighting against Muslim extremists of Hamas.

Why does the transcript mention Palestinian Christians?

The transcript brings up Palestinian Christians to highlight that they are being attacked and killed, which is not commonly discussed in the West, and to challenge the narrative that Israel is solely fighting Islamist extremists.

How many Palestinian Christians are believed to be in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem?

At least 50,000 Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem are believed to be Christians.

What happened to the oldest church in Gaza during Israel's assault as described in the transcript?

The oldest church in Gaza was bombed during Israel's assault, resulting in the death of 16 Palestinian Christians who were sheltering there, and damage to the church's facade and the collapse of an adjacent building.

What was the reported action by an Israeli military sniper in the Holy Family Parish in Gaza?

An Israeli military sniper reportedly shot and killed two women inside the Holy Family Parish in Gaza, an action described by the most senior Catholic cleric in England as a cold-blooded killing.

Why were holiday celebrations in Bethlehem cancelled according to the transcript?

Holiday celebrations in Bethlehem were cancelled by Palestinian Christians in solidarity with their brothers and sisters in Gaza.

What does the US Commission on International Religious Freedom report about Israel's policies?

The report states that the separation barrier significantly impeded Bethlehem area Christians, including clergy, from reaching the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem and made visits to Christian sites in Bethany and Bethlehem difficult for Palestinian Christians living on the Jerusalem side of the barrier.

What is the Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac's view on the situation for Palestinian Christians in Gaza?

Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac believes that Palestinian Christians in Gaza are facing a tragic humanitarian situation with a lack of medicine and food, and that no place is safe, including churches where people have been killed.

What has been the impact of the Israeli occupation on Palestinian Christian communities according to Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac?

The Israeli occupation has led to a lack of freedom, confiscation of land, and a family registration system that denies Palestinian Christians the right to return to their homeland, contributing to the exodus of young Christian Palestinians.

How does Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac describe the reaction of Christian evangelicals in the US to the situation of Palestinian Christians?

Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac feels betrayed by Christian evangelicals in the US due to their support for Israel based on a theology called Christian Zionism, ignorance of the situation on the ground, and a lack of awareness of the impact of their support on Palestinian Christians.

What message does Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac want to convey to President Joe Biden and the US government?

Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac wants to hold politicians accountable for their policies, stating that the current administration's policy has directly contributed to the killing of thousands of Palestinians, and urging them to prevent further violence in the West Bank.

Outlines

00:00

🕍 Israeli Actions Against Palestinian Christians

This paragraph discusses the Israeli government's portrayal as a defender of Western civilization against Islamist extremists, specifically Hamas. It contrasts this image with the reality of Israel's attacks on Palestinian Christians, including the bombing of a church compound in Gaza and the killing of Christian Palestinians. The narrative highlights the lack of attention given to Palestinian Christians in the West and the restrictions imposed by Israeli policies on their religious freedom, as reported by the US Commission on International Religious Freedom. The paragraph also introduces Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac, an academic dean at the Bethlehem Bible College, who provides firsthand accounts of the suffering of Palestinian Christians and the lack of international outrage.

05:02

🔪 Escalating Violence Against Palestinian Christians in the West Bank

The second paragraph delves into the increase of violence against Palestinian Christians in the West Bank, with specific incidents of attacks on clergy, churches, and cemeteries. It emphasizes that these acts of violence are not merely from fringe groups but are enabled by a broader structure that offers them protection. The narrative challenges the common narrative that blames Hamas and Islamic extremism for the exodus of Palestinian Christians, arguing instead that it is the harsh realities of life under Israeli occupation, including land confiscation and restrictive family registration systems, that drive this migration. The paragraph also touches on the feelings of betrayal by Christian evangelicals in the US, who are perceived to support Israel over their fellow Christian Palestinians.

10:04

📖 Christian Zionism and Its Impact on Palestinian Christians

This paragraph explores the role of Christian Zionism in shaping American evangelical support for Israel, despite the adverse effects on Palestinian Christians. It discusses the deep-rooted beliefs that tie American Christian identity to support for Israel, and the ignorance about the realities on the ground. The speaker calls for a shift in focus from end-times theology to the sanctity of human life and the need for faith leaders to hold politicians accountable for their policies. The paragraph also addresses the issue of black and Latino evangelicals, who do not share the same views as their white counterparts and have shown support for Gaza.

Keywords

💡Israeli government

The Israeli government in the video script refers to the ruling authority in Israel. It is portrayed as attempting to position itself as a defender of Western civilization against perceived threats from Islamist groups. The script challenges this narrative by highlighting the Israeli military's actions against Palestinian Christians, suggesting a contradiction between the government's claims and its actions.

💡Western Civilization

Western Civilization is a broad term used to describe the cultural, political, and social systems originating from Europe and influencing many parts of the world. In the script, it is mentioned in the context of the Israeli government's alleged portrayal of itself as a bulwark against threats to this civilization, specifically from Islamist groups.

💡Islamist

Islamist refers to someone who supports the integration of Islamic values and principles into a state's governance. The script uses the term to describe groups that the Israeli government claims to be fighting against, but it questions this by pointing out the Israeli military's actions against Palestinian Christians, suggesting a more complex situation than a simple 'us versus them' narrative.

💡Hamas

Hamas is the acronym for 'Islamic Resistance Movement', a Palestinian political organization with a military wing. It is considered by some as a terrorist organization, while others view it as a resistance movement. The script mentions Hamas as the group that the Israeli government claims to be fighting, but it also points out the impact of Israeli actions on Palestinian Christians.

💡Palestinian Christians

Palestinian Christians are the Christian population living in Palestine, which includes the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The script emphasizes their plight, often overlooked in the narrative of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, by detailing instances of violence and restrictions they face, including attacks on churches and the impact of Israeli policies on their religious freedom.

💡Occupied West Bank

The Occupied West Bank refers to the territory of the West Bank, which has been under Israeli occupation since the Six-Day War in 1967. The script discusses the challenges faced by Palestinian Christians living in this area, such as restrictions on movement and attacks on their religious sites.

💡Apartheid

Apartheid is a policy or system of segregation and discrimination based on race. In the script, it is used to describe the Israeli policies that the speaker believes are more severe than the racial segregation policies previously implemented in South Africa, affecting the lives of Palestinian Christians and other Palestinians.

💡Evangelical

Evangelical refers to a diverse group of Christian denominations that emphasize personal faith in Jesus Christ, the authority of the Bible, and the importance of evangelism or spreading the Christian message. The script discusses the perceived lack of support from some evangelicals for Palestinian Christians and the influence of Christian Zionism on their views.

💡Christian Zionism

Christian Zionism is a belief among some Christians that the return of the Jews to the Holy Land and the establishment of Israel in 1948 were in accordance with Bible prophecy. The script criticizes this belief for influencing the support of some evangelicals for Israel, despite the impact of Israeli policies on Palestinian Christians.

Highlights

The Israeli government is accused of portraying itself as the defender of Western civilization against Islamist extremists, particularly Hamas.

Israeli military actions have reportedly targeted and killed Palestinian Christians, contrary to the narrative of only fighting Muslim extremists.

There is an estimated 50,000 Palestinian Christians in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem, with a historic Christian community in Gaza.

During Israel's assault on Gaza, the oldest church in the strip was bombed, resulting in the death of 16 Palestinian Christians sheltering there.

In December, Israeli military snipers killed two women inside the Holy Family Parish in Gaza, described as a 'coldblooded killing' by a senior Catholic cleric.

Bethlehem's holiday celebrations were cancelled by Palestinian Christians in solidarity with those in Gaza.

US Commission on International Religious Freedom reported that Israeli policies restrict Palestinian Christians' rights, impeding access to holy sites.

There is a lack of outrage from American Christians, particularly evangelicals, over the persecution of Palestinian Christians.

Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac discusses the dire situation of Palestinian Christians in Gaza, facing a lack of medicine and food due to Israeli attacks.

Christians in Gaza are taking refuge in churches, which have become the only safe places for worship amidst the conflict.

Violence against Christians in the West Bank, including attacks on clergy and churches, has been increasing, particularly since the new Israeli government took over.

The speaker criticizes the narrative that blames Hamas and Islamic extremism for the exodus of Palestinian Christians, arguing it's due to the harsh conditions of Israeli occupation.

Christian Zionist theology among Evangelicals in the US is identified as a reason for their support of Israel, despite the plight of Palestinian Christians.

Some US evangelicals are accused of turning a blind eye to the situation in Palestine due to their theological beliefs and lack of awareness of the realities on the ground.

Reverend Dr. Mona Isaac calls for support from Christian leaders worldwide to speak out for Palestinian Christians and to challenge the narrative of Israeli occupation.

The speaker addresses the issue of Christian Palestinians feeling betrayed by US evangelicals and the theological underpinnings of their support for Israel.

The conversation highlights the need for faith leaders to hold politicians accountable for their policies and actions that contribute to the suffering in Palestine.

Transcripts

the Israeli government wants the West to

believe that it is the last line of

defense for Western Civilization against

the islamist hordes Netanyahu and Co

claim to be fighting against the Sharia

loving Muslim extremists of Hamas the

thing is if that's the case why then do

they keep attacking and killing

Palestinian Christians yes Palestinian

Christians the folks you don't really

hear about much here in the Christian

majority West at least 50,000

Palestinians in the occupied West Bank

in East Jerusalem are believed to be

Christians pre- October the 7th at least

a thousand Christians lived in Gaza one

of the oldest Christian communities in

the world dating back to the first

century into Philip the Evangelist from

the New Testament and yet just in the

first month of Israel's brutal assault

on Gaza the Israeli military bombed the

compound of the strip's oldest church

killing 16 Palestinian Christians

Sheltering there the church more than

800 years old suffered damage to its

facade and an adjacent building

collapsed as a result of the strike then

in December in Israeli military sniper

shot and killed two women inside the

Holy Family Parish in Gaza an action

described by the most senior Catholic

cleric in England as a coldblooded

killing just Days Later over in the

occupied West Bank this past December

holiday celebrations at the world's

capital of Christmas Bethlehem were

cancelled by Palestinian Christians in

solidarity with their brothers and

sisters in Gaza but look even before

October the 7th Israeli government

policy was restricting the rights of

palestine's Christians and that's not

mean saying that it's the US government

yes the US Commission on International

religious freedom wrote in a report on

Israel's aparte war quote the separation

barrier significantly impeded Bethlehem

Area Christians including clergy from

reaching the Church of the Holy Seiler

in Jerusalem and made visits to

Christian sites in Bethany and Bethlehem

difficult for Palestinian Christians who

live on the Jerusalem side of the

barrier so where is the outrage from

Christians here in America from

evangelicals in the South for example

who love to speak up in Outrage over the

persecution of Christians in places like

China or North Korea but not in

Palestine why have palestine's

Christians been abandoned and ignored in

this way who better to ask the Reverend

Dr Mona Isaac academic dean of the

Bethlehem Bible College in Palestine

director of Christ at the checkpoint

conference he pastors at the Evangelical

Lutheran Christmas church in Bethlehem

and is here this week on a visit to

Washington DC Pastor thanks so much for

coming on the show thank you for having

me for starters I know that members of

your congregation in Bethlehem in the

West Bank have family in Gaza how are

they

doing no one's doing well in Gaza uh

everybody is impacted by this war

everybody I mean we're they're

fortunately few survive uh actually

right now uh they thought they will be

safe in the church they took refuge in

the two churches the Orthodox and

Catholics but uh tragically uh people

were killed in both churches uh as a

result of Israeli attacks uh and right

now the biggest problem they're facing

is the lack of uh medicine and food uh

many from the Christian Community were

killed because of uh there is no

hospitals there's no medicine uh chances

are right now if you get sick in Gaz uh

that you won't survive uh it's been

traumatizing for us to witness because

uh they're very close by but we can do

nothing uh and all we can do is if Lucky

uh get hold of them on the phone to

encourage uh and uh say anything you

know just to comfort them uh on the

other hand we're trying our best to

mobilize church leaders around the world

to speak out uh for the Christians in

Gaza but also for all the everyone

involved in Gaza it's it's a tragic

humanitarian situation right now what is

your understanding of the situation on

the ground in Gaza specifically for

Palestinian Christians who are trying to

worship because in jabalia refugee camp

we recently saw Friday prayers held for

Muslims for the first time since the

start of conflict do Christians in Gaza

have any safe places Left To Worship

in they're taking Refuge literally

inside the two churches so they're

praying almost every day uh this is the

only thing they can do right now uh

because as nowhere is safe and they

think at least within the church

compound uh it's safe uh but many of the

uh regular players were impacted

Christmas was not the same Easter was

not the same uh one of the oldest

traditions in Palestine is the Holy

Saturday tradition in which the light

comes out of the Church of the Holy

slica and then literally goes all over

the world and this was the first year

that it not it did not get into uh into

Gaza uh everybody's impacted right now

by this war and as I said they're

fortunate if they can only survive it's

a war of a genocide that has literally

left no one uh uh safe and nowhere is

safe let's talk about the West Bank

there has been while we've all been

focused on Gaza the world there's been a

an increase in violence in the West Bank

a rampage by settlers against

Palestinians has there been an increase

in specifically anti-christian violence

in the occupied West Bank since October

the 7th in your view and do you believe

Palestinian Christians are being

targeted by the Israeli farri by

Messianic Jewish satellites for example

yeah this is not a matter of opinion M

did statistics and uh reports about

incitements and attacks against

Christians testify to that and in fact

even Israeli human rights organizations

are raising concern about the fact that

these incitements against that that are

targeting Christians specifically in E

Jerusalem uh but within also the West

Bank are uh on the rise and it did not

start on October 7th it actually the it

has been going for a while but since

this current Israeli government took

over we've seen a big rise in these

incidents of uh spitting at clergy

attacking uh cemeteries uh attacking

churches arson at churches

um and uh many times when I hear about

how these reports these uh incidents are

reported the focus is on Fringe

Messianic Jewish groups the problem is

not only that the problem is the

structure that protects them because

right now they feel they have immunity

uh right now they feel they are

protected and certainly after October

7th with all the focus rightly so on

Gaza uh they have been Unleashed uh

attacking everybody including Christians

and in the West Bank uh you know while

the world is watching Gaza and and the

focus there settler activities is on the

r settler violence and land confiscation

and building of settlements uh on land

confiscated from Palestinian including

Palestinian Christians is also uh on the

rise you've mentioned in the past that

one of the biggest problems you're

facing in the West Bank as a Christian

Community uh is The Exodus of young

Christian Palestinians due to life under

occupation the Israelis and their

supporters in the west often blame Hamas

and the rise of Islamic extremism for

The Exodus of Palestinian Christians

from both Gaza and the West Bank what is

your response to that line of

argument my response has come and talk

to these people who are leaving and ask

them why are they leaving uh we're tired

as Palestinian Christians from people

speaking about us and framing the

narrative in a way that fits their own

political agenda rather than listening

to our concerns it's it's impossible to

flourish as any Community right now in

the West Bank uh it takes us sometimes

two to three hours to get from Bethlehem

to ramala because we can't get access of

course to Jerusalem and the checkpoints

are becoming more and more difficult uh

life under an Israeli occupation system

that's so brutal that controls every

element of Our Lives is so difficult uh

but we must ask the question why is it

being phrased this way why is it always

as if uh you know Muslims are to blame

for the Exodus of Christians uh again

because it fits a certain narrative uh

it serves a certain agenda and um people

in the west would go crazy if a church

is attacked by uh Muslims in the West

Bank yes but we've seen all these

incidents and it's not just the

incidents it's the limitation of our

freedom it's probably the biggest the

two biggest problems we're facing right

now as a Christian Community in the West

Bank one is the confiscation of our land

we cannot expand we cannot live

and when I say our land I'm not making a

political statement that this is

Palestinian land I'm talking about land

we've farmed and inherited for

Generations this is this is the

difference when we when we say This Is

Our Land so we're not able to flourish

as a community in the Bethlehem Area in

particular because Israel confiscated

most of the land that was supposed to be

part of the three municipalities in the

Bethlehem area where most Christians

live the second is the family

registration system the majority of

Palestinian Christians live outside and

are denied to come back to their

Homeland in some instances uh

Palestinian Christians like all

Palestinians are forced to leave

Palestine because they can't um be with

their spouses so if I as a Palestinian

marry a foreign spouse yes uh Israel

would not grant that spouse a visa to

come and live in Palestine so what do

you do you just end up leaving if a

Palestinian from the West Bank Mar as a

Palestinian from East Jerusalem it's

also complicated all of these policies

uh that have been rightly described as

as apartheid are causing Palestinians to

live including Palestinian uh Christians

as well you're here in the US you're in

Washington DC right now on a visit have

you spoken to Christian evangelicals

here in the US and asked them why they

so strongly some would say so blindly

support Israel over their own Christian

Brethren like yourself living under

military occupation do you feel betrayed

by them we certainly feel uh betrayed uh

the reason is this theology called

Christian Zionism uh which is so

prevalent in among Evangelical circles

uh and it's deeper than simply how we

read the Bible um to them they have

created the world VI in which support to

Israel is integral to this American

identity American exceptionalism

American National Christian identity

part of it is you know support uh to

Israel is and they read the Bible and

they only think that the right way to

read it is to support uh Israel and when

you couple that with a really very

limited awareness of what's happening on

the ground I mean ignorance to be honest

uh because I meet with these pastors all

the time uh and the thing that usually

changes them is when they come to

Bethlehem they're shocked and they

always say we didn't know we wish we

knew so it's ignorance on their it's

ignorance and then that

the the mere fact that Palestinian

Christians exist and then they come and

see the wall they see how we live in

within basically concentrate you know

very uh uh compacted areas whereas the

settlements are flourishing around us

makes them you know ask questions and

that allows us to open the Bible and say

do you really support the concept of a

tribal God of a racist God uh so we're

trying to have these conversations um by

and large we have a problem uh but for

the first time we feel some are

beginning to listen uh for the first

time we we feel maybe we have an

opportunity uh to engage uh and I think

Gaza has uh made many question uh their

assumptions and of course we should

point out black and Latino evangelicals

do not take the same position as their

white Evangelical brethren we talk about

evangelicals we're talking very much

about white Christian evangelicals black

pastors have come out very strongly in

support of Gaza but what's interesting

is you're saying you're seeing some

change because of Gaza from where I'm

seeing I'm seeing a lot more religious

crazies uh coming out of the woodwork

because of Gaza we've seen several uh

Israeli officials top us Christian

evangelicals and Messianic Jewish rabbis

try to spin this war into a religious

one uh with some hoping that it marks

the return of the Messiah others

predicting the end of times Armageddon

uh there's talk of some settlers wanting

to uh uh sacrifice a red heer to bring

about the Third Temple and the end of

the world how do you react to those both

in the holy land and here in the US who

are trying to turn the genocide in Gaza

the violence in Gaza the fighting into a

religious conflict into a holy war yes

uh I'm sad I'm troubled traumatized

because you know for us we're talking

about real people friends relatives who

could be killed every day this war goes

on uh yet we have pastors here who are

excited about the end times and uh even

you know calling for more War uh it's

hard for for us to understand this

obsession with war and violence among

many Christians uh in this country uh

and honestly anybody who understands

what some of these fundamentalist groups

Christian Zionist are saying uh should

be shocked that you know they are

friends with Israel to begin with orbits

Israeli Jews you talk about the end

times because in many of these scenarios

that they hold uh Jews will come to

Palestine only for two3 of them to be

massacred and the other third then will

be rescued by Jesus when he returns and

they will believe in Jesus you know

convert to Christianity and somehow

that's a Israel friendly theology it's

hard for me to understand uh how you

know those are considered friends of

Israel but when we speak against

occupation we are called uh all sorts of

things including anti-semites

um very it's it's very sad

because the conversation should shift

should focus on the sanctity of human

lives yes this is what people of Faith

should focus on human life should be

above every every consideration yet

rather than caring how do we stop this

war they justify it and they connect it

to end time scenarios they get excited

uh whereas to us it's about real life

issues it's about our existence as as

Palestinians and certainly as as

Palestinian Christians so these are some

of the conversation we're trying to have

and as I said some are beginning to

listen and we're asking them for help

please help us reach out to those I I

wish they understand the consequences of

what they're saying and doing because

they give money to Israel many of these

Evangelical churches give millions of

dollars to Israel I wish they understand

the impact uh on our daily lives you

mentioned aparte earlier the a word that

gets a lot of people very upset here in

the US there's also the GW genocide what

would you say to someone who says I

don't think it's aparte I don't think

it's

genocide When someone tells me you know

do you think it's aparte I saw it's it's

not a matter of opinion it's not what I

think apartheid has a definition does it

fit is do Israeli policies fit and then

the second thing I ask I mean do we

really care about the international law

or not because if we truly care then

what do we do about the reports from

Amnesty International to Human Rights

Watch to Israel's own Bim I mean

Palestinian lawyers have demonstrated

that it is a parti long before alhak and

others

um I have many South African friends uh

even Evangelical South Africans who come

to to Palestine and all of them tell us

the same thing what you have is worse

than aparte they say we can smell aparte

for distance what you have is much worse

than aparte and ironically it's the same

people who supported aparte are now the

ones who support Israeli policies and so

you ask yourself did we really learn

from history and the fact that the icj

case was so quickly dismissed by church

leaders and by American government shows

you that actually these attitudes of you

know Supremacy actually didn't go away

uh I would you know you would assume

that people would respect what South

African theologians church leaders are

saying at least you know people in the

church but they continue to dismiss you

know they celebrate someone like Desmond

Tutu the late uh Archbishop except when

he speaks about Palestine the same way

they celebrated Nelson Mandela with the

exception of when he spoke about

Palestine there's always a Palestine

exception um last question you have

accused Joe Biden of complicity in

genocide you've called out the American

president saying he's worse he's a worst

Christian Zionist and even American

televangelist John haggy uh whose

extremist and racist rhetoric we've

discussed on Zeto in the past you're

here in Washington DC right now we're

around the corner from the White House

what is the message that you are trying

to get across to the president of the

United

States um that um you know that his

policies have directly contributed to a

genocide the fact that he says one thing

yet continues to provide Israel with the

weapons needed to uh conduct this

genocide make him directly uh complicit

and I think my message is also to many

uh church leaders who continue to focus

on the Evangelical right while ignoring

that we also have a problem in in of the

progressive liberal uh churches because

as I said uh Joe Biden is a

self-confessed

Zionist uh self-confessed catholic

christian yet he supported and he

continues to defend uh this genocide now

sadly it's too late to reverse the

action uh what has been done has been

done in Gaza uh thousands have been

killed but at least we can stop it from

going to the West Bank and at least we

make sure those lives were not killed

for nothing that something good I I hope

you know for the for Palestinians for

the whole region comes out of this uh so

I think as Faith leaders we need to hold

politicians accountable and uh I I I

think it's imperative that we speak with

uh our convictions our conscience and

speak truth to power and uh he must hear

it from us that we think uh he has been

his policies this administration's

policy has directly contributed to the

killing of thousands of Palestinians

including 15,000 children

sadly it has Reverend M ISAC thank you

so much for your time I appreciate you

coming in thank you for having me thank

you that's our show May the unfiltered

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