How I lost my STEM Extension 🀯

Parth Vijayvergiya
11 May 202114:36

Summary

TLDRIn this video, the creator shares their personal experience of losing a STEM extension, a first-time revelation even to their parents. They recount their journey from joining Purdue University in 2017, navigating through CPT, Co-op, and OPT, to the anxious wait for H1B approval. The video details the process of applying for work authorizations and the creator's oversight in the STEM extension application, leading to a tense period of uncertainty. It serves as a cautionary tale for international students and a testament to the importance of meticulous application checks.

Takeaways

  • πŸ˜€ The video is a personal account of the creator's experience losing their STEM extension, which is a first-time disclosure even to their parents.
  • 🏫 The creator first joined Purdue University in 2017 and had to navigate various visa and job authorization processes, including CPT, OPT, and the STEM extension.
  • πŸ“š CPT (Curricular Practical Training) and OPT (Optional Practical Training) are obtained regardless of the course, while the STEM extension is specific to STEM-approved courses.
  • πŸ” The process for applying for CPT and Co-op is typically straightforward and managed through the university, without the need to submit documents to USCIS.
  • πŸ“ The speaker emphasizes the importance of saving all I-20s and related documents, as they are crucial for future applications and authorizations.
  • πŸ’Ό The creator secured a job with Willman Construction and applied for OPT after graduation, experiencing a delay in receiving their EAD card due to high application volumes.
  • ⏳ The STEM extension application process is more complex, requiring careful attention to detail and timely submission to avoid falling out of status.
  • πŸ˜“ A critical oversight in the form (not checking a box on the I-765 form) led to the rejection of the STEM extension application, causing significant anxiety for the creator.
  • πŸ†˜ The creator reached out to International Student Services and HR for guidance when they realized they might be out of status, highlighting the importance of communication in such situations.
  • πŸ‘ Despite the setback, the creator's H1B visa was picked in the lottery and later approved, which resolved their immigration status concerns.
  • πŸ“ˆ The video serves as a cautionary tale, urging viewers to be meticulous with their visa applications and to seek help when needed.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of the video?

    -The main topic of the video is the creator's experience with losing their STEM extension while studying at a US university.

  • What does STEM stand for in the context of the video?

    -In the video, STEM stands for Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math, which is a specific extension for students in these fields.

  • What is the difference between CPT, OPT, and STEM extension?

    -CPT is Curricular Practical Training, OPT is Optional Practical Training, and STEM extension is a two-year extension for students in STEM fields after their OPT.

  • Why did the video creator apply for a STEM extension?

    -The video creator applied for a STEM extension because their OPT was about to expire and they wanted to continue working in the US.

  • What was the mistake made by the video creator that led to the rejection of their STEM extension application?

    -The mistake made by the video creator was not marking the checkbox on the I-765 form indicating that they were applying for a STEM extension.

  • What is the term 'Cap Gap' mentioned in the video and what does it mean?

    -Cap Gap refers to the period between the end of OPT and the start date of an H1B visa, during which a student is considered to be in valid status due to their H1B application being picked in the lottery.

  • Why did the video creator feel anxious after receiving an I-797C notice?

    -The video creator felt anxious because the I-797C notice was a rejection for their STEM extension application, and they were unsure of their immigration status.

  • What was the role of the video creator's HR and ISS in helping them navigate the STEM extension issue?

    -The HR and ISS provided support by forwarding the case to a lawyer, offering advice on what to do next, and ensuring the video creator was not working out of status.

  • How long did it take for the video creator to receive their OPT approval?

    -It took the video creator about four and a half months to receive their OPT approval.

  • What advice does the video creator give to other international students regarding their visa applications?

    -The video creator advises international students to double-check and triple-check their visa application forms, and consider having a friend review them as well to avoid mistakes.

  • What was the final outcome for the video creator regarding their H1B visa application?

    -The final outcome was positive, as the video creator received an approval notice for their H1B visa application.

Outlines

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πŸŽ“ Challenges Faced with STEM Extension Application

The speaker begins by introducing the topic of their video, which is the personal experience of losing their STEM extension. They explain the importance of STEM extension in the context of U.S. university education and the different types of work authorizations available to students, including CPT, OPT, and the STEM extension. The speaker shares their journey from joining Purdue University in 2017, applying for CPT and a co-op, and eventually facing difficulties when their STEM extension application did not go through, causing them to be in a bad state. The paragraph highlights the process of applying for these authorizations and the ease of doing so through the university, as well as the importance of saving all relevant documents.

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πŸ˜“ The Unexpected Rejection of STEM Extension

The speaker continues with the story of their STEM extension application, detailing the process and timeline leading up to the rejection. They explain that they applied for the extension just before their OPT was about to expire, and due to the COVID-19 pandemic, there were delays in receiving their new I-20 from the university. The anxiety builds as the speaker describes waiting for the approval, only to receive a rejection notice due to a missed checkbox on the I-765 form. This oversight led to the denial of their STEM extension, causing significant distress and uncertainty about their legal status and future in the U.S.

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πŸ€” Seeking Solutions After STEM Extension Rejection

In the final paragraph, the speaker recounts their actions following the rejection of their STEM extension. They reached out to Purdue's International Student Services (ISS) and their HR department for guidance, expressing concern about their employment status and legal standing in the U.S. The speaker also mentions the potential need to leave the country and return after H1B visa stamping. However, after consulting with a lawyer, they learn about the 'CAP Gap' which allows them to remain in the U.S. legally while waiting for their H1B visa to begin on October 1st. The speaker concludes by sharing the relief they felt upon receiving their H1B approval notice and reflects on the importance of careful application preparation and the value of seeking help when facing immigration challenges.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘STEM Extension

STEM Extension refers to an additional two-year extension of Optional Practical Training (OPT) available to students who have completed a degree in a Science, Technology, Engineering, or Math field. In the video, the narrator discusses their personal experience with applying for a STEM extension and the challenges they faced, highlighting the importance of this term in understanding the video's theme of immigration and work authorization for international students in the U.S.

πŸ’‘CPT (Curricular Practical Training)

Curricular Practical Training (CPT) is a type of off-campus employment authorization for international students that is directly related to their major of study. The video script mentions CPT as one of the first steps in the narrator's journey with U.S. work authorization, indicating its role in the broader context of international students' educational and professional development in the U.S.

πŸ’‘OPT (Optional Practical Training)

Optional Practical Training (OPT) allows international students to work in the U.S. for up to one year after graduation in a field related to their major. The narrator's experience with OPT is central to the video, as it sets the stage for their subsequent application for a STEM extension and the challenges they encountered.

πŸ’‘I-765 Form

The I-765 Form is used by individuals to apply for various types of employment authorization, including OPT and STEM extensions. In the script, the narrator's failure to properly complete the I-765 Form, specifically missing a checkbox, leads to the rejection of their STEM extension application, underscoring the form's significance in the immigration process.

πŸ’‘USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services)

United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) is the government agency responsible for processing immigration-related applications, including those for work authorizations like OPT and STEM extensions. The narrator's interactions with USCIS are a key part of the video's narrative, illustrating the bureaucratic challenges international students may face.

πŸ’‘I-20 Form

The I-20 Form is a document issued by U.S. educational institutions to international students to apply for a student visa. In the video, the narrator mentions receiving new I-20s for their CPT, co-op, and OPT, emphasizing the form's role in maintaining their student and work authorizations.

πŸ’‘H-1B Visa

The H-1B Visa is a non-immigrant visa that allows U.S. employers to temporarily employ foreign workers in specialty occupations. The narrator's H-1B application being picked in the lottery and later approved is a pivotal point in the video, as it offers a potential solution to the narrator's predicament with their STEM extension denial.

πŸ’‘Cap Gap

Cap Gap refers to a period of authorized stay for individuals whose H-1B petition has been approved but has not yet started, typically between the end of their OPT and the beginning of their H-1B validity date. The narrator learns they are in Cap Gap status, which means they are not out of status despite the STEM extension denial, providing relief in the video's storyline.

πŸ’‘International Student Services (ISS)

International Student Services (ISS) offices at U.S. universities provide support and guidance to international students, including assistance with immigration processes. In the script, the narrator reaches out to ISS for help after receiving the rejection notice for their STEM extension, demonstrating the role of ISS in navigating complex immigration issues.

πŸ’‘HR (Human Resources)

Human Resources (HR) departments within companies manage employee relations, including issues related to employment authorization and visas. The narrator contacts their HR department after the STEM extension denial, and HR's response and actions are crucial in resolving the narrator's concerns, showing the importance of HR in supporting international employees.

πŸ’‘Receipt Number

A receipt number is a unique identifier assigned by USCIS to track the status of an application. The narrator uses their receipt number to check the status of their STEM extension application online, which leads to the discovery of their rejection, highlighting the receipt number's importance in the application tracking process.

Highlights

The video discusses the personal experience of losing a STEM extension.

The speaker reveals this incident to their parents for the first time through the video.

Details the process of applying for visas and job authorizations as an international student in the US.

Explains the difference between CPT, OPT, and the STEM extension.

Describes the ease of applying for CPT through the university without USCIS involvement.

Mentions the importance of saving all I-20 documents for future applications.

Shares the experience of applying for OPT and the online process introduced by USCIS.

Warns about the potential for OPT applications to be denied and the importance of careful form filling.

Narrates the personal story of waiting for OPT approval during a peak application period.

Discusses the anxiety of applying for the STEM extension close to the deadline.

Reveals the mistake made in the I-765 form that led to the rejection of the STEM extension.

Expresses the emotional impact of receiving the rejection notice for the STEM extension.

Provides advice on reaching out to International Student Services and HR in case of visa issues.

Explains the concept of 'CAP Gap' and its significance for H1B applicants.

Shares relief upon learning about the CAP Gap status and the eventual H1B approval.

Concludes with a message of caution and the importance of double-checking visa applications.

Invites viewers to share their experiences with visa application issues.

Transcripts

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hey everyone welcome to another video

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and in this video i'm going to talk

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about how i lost my stem extension

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i haven't really talked about this to

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anyone before

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and uh this is the first time i'm even

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telling my parents so they are going to

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know

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through this thing so i was in a really

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bad state last year

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once when when my stem extension didn't

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go through so i'm going to tell you that

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story

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only a few people knew about it uh

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someone knew about it my

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roommate emmanuel about it and a couple

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of people from hr knew about it so

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let's go back a little bit let's go to

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2017 when i joined purdue for the first

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time

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when you study at a us university you

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have to apply for a certain number of

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visas or you have to apply for a certain

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number of like job

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authorization from uscis and from the

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university

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and that's what we are talking about

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here so there is cpt that is curricular

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practical training there is opt that is

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optional practical training

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and there is stem extension that is

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science technology

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engineering and math extension um stem

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extension you only get when your course

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is stem approved uh opt and cpd you get

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regardless of your course so in 2017

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i joined purdue for my internship first

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first

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year that was 2018 summer i apply for my

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cpd

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applying for cpd the process is really

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easy it's only through the university

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you don't have to submit any of the

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documents

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to uscis so it makes the whole process

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much easier

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usually the designated school officer

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who gives you i20 who

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authorizes your i20 they'll help you

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fill out the documents if you're missing

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some

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document they will help you out so the

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process is

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really easy i'm going to do three links

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from uh from different

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universities on how the process goes so

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during the summer when you're applying

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for your cpd for internship

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it will be useful for you i go through

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that process that's really easy

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and then i decide i want to do a co-op

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that is a four months or a semester-long

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internship

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that is also going through the

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university and not through

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uscis so that also goes through very

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easily and i'm going to leave

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link in description of the process on

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how it goes

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from different universities so that you

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can check it out so cpd goes through

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like really easily

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and i'm all good every time i get work

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authorization for like cpt and co-op

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i get a new i-20 from the university

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and uh during my summer internship and a

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co-op

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i get two i20s for that and one thing

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which i'll tell you

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save all of your i20s whatever itemities

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you have

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up until now save all the documents we

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come to opt now that is optional

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practical training

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after my graduation i decide that i want

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to work in the us

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and i interview for a bunch of companies

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i get into one of the companies that is

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willman construction

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as soon as i get the offer i go ahead

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and apply for opt

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one of the things which uscis did great

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this year is made the whole

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process of opt applying our opt

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application online

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earlier it was offline earlier stem

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extension was offline as well

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so what had happened was you have to

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submit all the relevant documents

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and then you send it through postal

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services the process is fine the only

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thing is like

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nobody helps you with that process your

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international student services office or

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oiss or

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whatever you want to call it at your

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university those guys help you

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but they'll not watch each and every

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section of your

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i-765 form and sometimes students can

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mess it up i don't know it has happened

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before one of my

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really close friend's brother who was

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studying at asu last year

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his opt got denied for some reason and

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at the end of the day

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he had to go back so there are cases

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like that so you have to make sure that

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when you're filling up your opt

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application it's

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all solid and it's ready to go so i

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filled in the application

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put it through uscis i get an approval

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from my

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iss that is international student

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services at video

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that you're good to go i put in the

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documents in

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2019 when i applied for my opt it was

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crazy during that time because a lot of

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people

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were applying us admissions were at peak

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that time

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u.s graduation was at peak that time so

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there was just a lot of people

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graduating

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and uscis was really backed up

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usually it takes like two months to

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three months to get your ead card

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mine took like four and a half months or

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so and i know some people who have took

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like

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five months to get back so i applied in

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april

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and i got my ead approval in august i

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started working on august 19th

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um i think like a week after i got my

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approval

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it was good that i was work like my

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employer was accommodating of the fact

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that you know opt

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can take a lot of time and hersh goes

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that indian guy was going through the

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same thing that time and

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just communicating that with your

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employer really works out it took four

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months that's like

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way too much time for it to take that

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much for the process

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but it came through and i was good to go

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now comes the stem extension

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so stem extension is a little different

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in opt you are still at the university

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while you're applying for it

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you can just go to the iss to help you

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out and you can get a double check with

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everyone

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myopt was getting over on 8th of july

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2020.

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i knew by this time my company my

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employer already applied for my h1b

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and my h1b picked up in the lottery

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remember it was picked up in the lottery

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it wasn't approved getting picked up in

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the lottery doesn't necessarily mean

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that it will

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it will get approved the documents and

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the backup documents that your lawyer

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puts in

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should make sense so i applied for my

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stem extension that is the two years

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extension over opt luckily my

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lottery was picked up and i was like you

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know i was comfortable sitting down and

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waiting until the last moment like hey

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i'll apply for my step extension that's

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no big deal i applied on a month

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a month and few days before my deadline

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so july 8th was my deadline july 2020

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and june 2nd is when i submitted all the

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necessary documents that is

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i-765 and there's a bunch of other forms

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which you have to submit and there's a

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list

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which i'm going to put that as well and

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you have to submit that to your iss

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so that they can authorize that yeah you

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are good to go and they will also

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send you new i-20 saying that yeah this

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is stem extension approved and what's

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the status like just to give you a new

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identity to

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apply to the university or to apply to

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the uscis

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so i submitted my documents on june 2nd

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and during that time because scovitus

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was on the peak last year

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during that time it was taking too much

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time for iss to get back to me

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so my i20 i received my i20 by june 22nd

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and july 8th

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that's not too far apart okay that's two

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to three weeks apart i would say

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eight plus eight sixteen so that's two

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weeks apart

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and uh that's that's just not too enough

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time

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for them to give me approval right away

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okay so

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i apply on june 22nd itself and i get a

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notice that

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they have received my case in on june

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23rd it is good because

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the uscis has office in phoenix it takes

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a lot less time for them to

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send a receivable notice uh usually even

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if you're sending it to

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in texas or i think san francisco has

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one office or somewhere

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it doesn't take too long to get a uh

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like a notice that they have received

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your documents but

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once they receive your document it's

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gonna take some time to process it right

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so that process was going through now my

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anxiety was going a little bit

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like i was already late my status gets

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over on july

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8th what am i going to do now it was all

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a weight came i was just waiting for it

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on july 13th i think i saw

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a message coming on my phone that hey

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there's a change on your case you can

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check it online so

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i went to uscis websites put my receipt

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number and i see

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it didn't say denied it said something

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else on july 16th i see

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the document in my hand i see a post i

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take out the post i open it up and i see

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that there's a

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i797c which is a rejection notice

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i was like what the hell happened like

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am i did i just get rejected for stem

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extension what did i do wrong

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i was like all right this this is some

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sort of mistake you know

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i'll try to figure it out and of course

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i can apply again right like

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in my mind at that time i was like all

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right i'll just apply again for this

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so i come to my apartment and i show it

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to my roommate and i started looking it

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up like

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hey what does i 797c means and

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can i apply for stem extension again now

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because

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8th of july was my last date i was a

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little skeptical about it

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but i was optimistic at that time i

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looked it up online and it says that you

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cannot apply for stem extension once

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your

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deadline is over so my opt is over and

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if my stem extension is denied after it

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i just can't apply

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i'm like what the so usais took two

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and a half weeks to just get back to me

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to say that i've been rejected and i was

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i was really nervous about it that night

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i slept well i was like you know i'll

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figure it out tomorrow

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in the morning while i was doing my

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business i looked it up on my phone and

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started

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reading a lot about it and that's

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the time when i got really anxious

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that's the time when i got really

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nervous like

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ah this i think means that i lost

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my stem extension

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i applied first of all a little too late

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and second when i was going through my

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forms seeing like why did i not

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get my stem extension what happened was

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in the i-765 form

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on the first page there's a check box

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which asks like

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are you applying for opt are you

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applying for stem extension

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and i didn't mark that checkbox i had

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everything prepared everything was good

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to go

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except for that checkbox and because of

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that checkbox

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i got rejected and that made me that

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friday

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so july 17th was the friday when i went

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to the office

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and in the morning i first of all

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emailed iss that is

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international student services at pdu

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and

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i emailed my hr i told her like hey this

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is the case

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what should i be doing i am a little

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skeptical that i'm out of status so i

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don't even know if i should be working

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right now

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um you know just being in this space so

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much

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like i have seen some people getting

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into this kind of problems

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so it's always better to just reach out

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to your

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international student services and your

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hr if you're working during that time

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i reach out to her she gets back to me

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quickly like hey i forwarded this to the

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lawyer

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let me check with her like what's going

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on we don't want you to be working

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if you're out of status she was really

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nice about it really comforting

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but to get to a lawyer like even if a

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company is hired lawyer full-time

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it takes a little while because they're

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always busy and something

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so i get to it and i'm sitting there and

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i'm like

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my pants almost like oh am

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i out of status would i have to go back

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so i was a little

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optimistic more about that hey my

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lottery is picked up

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for h1b so my case is already in

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i haven't got an approval notice but it

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should look positive

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just in case everything goes to and

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i'm out of status i'll just leave the

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country

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right now and just come back after my

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h1b stamping

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and that would take a while so i would

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be gone for the from the country for at

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least

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six to seven months seeing how covered

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was during that time

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so again i'm reaching out to isis i'm

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calling them they're not able to get

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back to me they're like

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hey just email and we'll see how it goes

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then

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and um i'm texting my hr like hey did

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you get any status update from

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the lawyers she's like hey the lawyers

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just got back to me

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they're saying that they'll give me a

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call at 3 p.m

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and it is a friday so i'm off early like

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we usually do 7 to 4

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and i got out by 2 30 that day and i'm

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trying to sleep i'm trying to take a nap

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because i'm like just

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so frustrated i didn't sleep well last

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night so

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i'm trying to take a nap i'm trying to

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calm down and hr calls me up and tells

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them like

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hey park looks like you are completely

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okay

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ah and i was like all right that sounds

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perfect

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so what the hr did was hr put together a

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total case and

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gave it to the lawyers and told her hey

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this is the case

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because i sent like a very comprehensive

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mail to her

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saying that hey this is the notice which

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i got this is my all my i20s these are

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all my documents

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so once the lawyer saw that she figured

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out like hey

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this person should be on cap cap right

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now now let me tell you what capcap is

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so if you're on opt not first of all not

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every course has stem extension okay

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if you're on opt um and if your employer

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applies for h1b right away then

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you have like this three months of

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period or two months of period between

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your end of opt and october 1st

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when your h1b kicks in so between that

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time

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a student is in cap cap so what cap gap

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is like when you

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are approved for your h-1b you get onto

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cab gap so you're never out of status

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so you don't have to go fly back to your

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country and come back in you could still

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stay in the country and your

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h1b will just kick in on the on

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october 1st that's when it kicks in i

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took a deep breath

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she sent me some more reading material

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on what tab cap is

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i read about cap cap and i was so so

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relaxed

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luckily by 24th july

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is when i got approval notice saying

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that hey your h1b is approved so i calm

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down even more that day

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but the point of me making this video is

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just that

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i will i have been in this like space

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and i've been helping students and i

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have all the resources even then i got

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really nervous and scared

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and it was my mistake at the end of the

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day that i did not fill up that check

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box at i-765

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i should have double checked triple

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checked maybe i should have asked a

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friend of mine to

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check it for me and yeah i just got

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lucky because match when we got picked

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up if it wouldn't

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have gotten picked up i would have been

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in a flux

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thank you so much guys for watching this

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video if you have been in this kind of

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situation before

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please comment down below and tell me

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how did you solve it

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and yeah thank you so much guys for

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watching and until then i'll see in the

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next one

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take care everyone bye

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