ADHD, IQ, and Giftedness

Russell Barkley, PhD - Dedicated to ADHD Science+
22 Jun 202313:48

Summary

TLDRIn this commentary, Russ Barkley explores the relationship between ADHD and intelligence, dispelling myths that individuals with ADHD are more likely to be gifted or highly intelligent. He presents research showing a slight negative correlation between ADHD severity and intelligence levels, with untreated individuals scoring about 7-10 points lower on average. Barkley also addresses the claim that gifted individuals may exhibit more ADHD symptoms due to boredom, finding little evidence to support this. He concludes that while ADHD and giftedness can coexist, they are distinct and do not significantly overlap.

Takeaways

  • 🧠 The relationship between ADHD and intelligence has been a topic of discussion for over 30 years, with claims that individuals with ADHD may be more likely to be gifted or have high intelligence levels.
  • πŸ“‰ There is a negative correlation between the severity of ADHD symptoms and intelligence, with individuals with ADHD scoring on average 7 to 10 points lower on IQ tests compared to the general population.
  • πŸ“š The bell curve of intelligence in the general population shows that most people fall within the average range, but there are also those who are significantly above or below the norm.
  • πŸ’‘ People with ADHD span the entire range of intelligence, from intellectually disabled to gifted, but on average, untreated individuals with ADHD tend to score slightly below the norm.
  • πŸ€” One theory suggests that individuals with ADHD may not perform well on IQ tests due to their symptoms interfering with test-taking behavior.
  • πŸ’Š Studies have shown that medication can improve test-taking behavior in individuals with ADHD, accounting for some of the IQ score differences.
  • 🧠 Another theory is that ADHD may affect executive functioning, which is a significant component of IQ, thus impacting intelligence scores.
  • πŸ” Research has also considered the possibility that some individuals with ADHD may have acquired brain injuries that could contribute to lower intelligence levels.
  • πŸ™…β€β™‚οΈ Contrary to some claims, the evidence does not support the idea that people with ADHD are more likely to be gifted or have higher intelligence than others.
  • πŸŽ“ A study in the International Journal of Mental Health and Addiction found that the disorder of ADHD is the same in both gifted and non-gifted individuals with ADHD, but gifted individuals tend to have milder symptoms.
  • πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ The claim that gifted individuals are more likely to be misdiagnosed with ADHD due to boredom in the classroom lacks substantial evidence and is considered unlikely.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of Russ Barkley's commentary?

    -The main topic of Russ Barkley's commentary is the relationship between ADHD, intelligence, and giftedness, addressing claims about the likelihood of individuals with ADHD being gifted or having high intelligence levels.

  • What is the bell curve used to represent in the script?

    -The bell curve is used to represent the distribution of intelligence in the general population, with most people falling within the average range and others at either end of the spectrum, being either intellectually gifted or deficient.

  • What is the correlation between the severity of ADHD symptoms and intelligence level as mentioned in the script?

    -The script mentions a negative correlation of about 0.3 between the severity of ADHD symptoms and intelligence level, indicating that individuals with more severe ADHD symptoms tend to score slightly lower on intelligence tests.

  • How much lower on average are the IQ scores of individuals with untreated ADHD compared to the general population?

    -On average, untreated individuals with ADHD score about seven to ten points lower on IQ tests compared to the general population.

  • What are some reasons suggested in the script for the lower IQ scores observed in individuals with ADHD?

    -The script suggests reasons such as difficulties in test-taking due to ADHD symptoms, interference with executive functioning, and the possibility of some individuals with ADHD having acquired brain injuries that could affect intellectual capacity.

  • What was found in studies comparing gifted individuals with and without ADHD?

    -Studies found that gifted individuals with ADHD have ADHD symptoms that are still significant but slightly less severe than those in the general population with ADHD, and that gifted individuals without ADHD are less likely to have ADHD symptoms.

  • What does the script suggest about the overlap between giftedness and ADHD?

    -The script suggests that giftedness and ADHD are distinct and do not overlap significantly. When they do coexist, one is not explaining the other, and the presence of ADHD does not necessarily imply giftedness or vice versa.

  • What is the claim made in some circles about gifted individuals being more likely to have ADHD due to boredom in the classroom?

    -The claim is that gifted individuals, who may be unchallenged and bored in the classroom, are more likely to exhibit ADHD symptoms and thus be diagnosed with ADHD.

  • What does the script conclude about the validity of the claim that gifted individuals are more likely to have ADHD?

    -The script concludes that the claim lacks evidence and is not supported by research. In fact, gifted individuals are found to be less likely to show symptoms of ADHD.

  • What attributes of gifted individuals were discussed in the script, and how do they relate to ADHD?

    -The script discussed attributes such as learning characteristics, creativity, motivational characteristics, and leadership traits of gifted individuals. It concludes that these attributes do not overlap with ADHD and in many cases are opposite to the symptoms of ADHD.

  • What is the final conclusion of the script regarding the relationship between ADHD and giftedness or high intelligence?

    -The final conclusion of the script is that the claims made over the past 30 years about individuals with ADHD being more likely to be gifted or have high intelligence levels are not true. People with ADHD have the same range of intelligence as the general population, with a slightly negative average difference in IQ points.

Outlines

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🧠 ADHD and Intelligence: Myths and Realities

Russ Barkley discusses the relationship between ADHD and intelligence, debunking the myth that individuals with ADHD are more likely to be gifted or highly intelligent. He explains that while people with ADHD can range from intellectually disabled to gifted, on average, they score slightly lower on IQ tests. This slight decrease is attributed to the negative correlation between ADHD severity and intelligence level, with untreated individuals typically scoring about 7 to 10 points lower than the norm. Barkley also considers the impact of ADHD on executive functioning and test-taking behavior, which may contribute to the observed differences in IQ scores.

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πŸ€” Giftedness Among Those with ADHD: Misconceptions Addressed

The script addresses the misconception that gifted individuals are more likely to have ADHD due to boredom in the classroom. Barkley refutes this claim by citing research that shows no significant evidence supporting it. Studies have found that gifted individuals with ADHD have milder symptoms compared to those with ADHD who are not gifted. The narrative emphasizes that giftedness and ADHD are distinct and do not overlap significantly, and while they can coexist, the presence of one does not explain the other.

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πŸ“š Attributes of Gifted Individuals vs. ADHD: A Clear Distinction

This paragraph delves into the attributes of gifted individuals and contrasts them with the symptoms of ADHD, highlighting that they are not the same and often oppose each other. Barkley cites an article from the journal Apex that examines the characteristics of gifted individuals, such as self-motivation, persistence, and the ability to work independently, which are not symptoms of ADHD and in some cases are the opposite. The paragraph concludes that while people with ADHD can be gifted, the attributes of giftedness are distinct from those of ADHD, and the two conditions can coexist without one causing the other.

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Keywords

πŸ’‘ADHD

ADHD, or Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, is a neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity. In the script, it is discussed in relation to its correlation with intelligence and giftedness. The speaker refutes the claim that people with ADHD are more likely to be gifted, stating that there is a slight negative correlation between ADHD severity and intelligence.

πŸ’‘Intelligence

Intelligence, as used in the script, refers to the cognitive ability to learn, reason, and understand complex ideas. It is measured by IQ (Intelligence Quotient) tests, and the script discusses its distribution in the general population, represented by the bell curve, and its relationship with ADHD.

πŸ’‘Giftedness

Giftedness is the natural capacity for high levels of intellectual or creative thought. The script addresses the misconception that there is a higher likelihood of giftedness in individuals with ADHD and clarifies that gifted individuals can have ADHD, but it is not more prevalent among them than in the general population.

πŸ’‘Bell Curve

The bell curve, or normal distribution, is a statistical representation used in the script to illustrate the distribution of intelligence in the general population. It shows that most people fall within the average range of intelligence, with fewer individuals at the extremes of high and low intelligence.

πŸ’‘IQ

IQ, or Intelligence Quotient, is a measure of a person's cognitive abilities relative to their age group. The script uses IQ as a metric to discuss the average intelligence level and how it is affected by ADHD, with untreated individuals with ADHD scoring slightly lower on average.

πŸ’‘Correlation

Correlation in the script refers to a statistical relationship between two variables, in this case, the severity of ADHD symptoms and the level of intelligence. A negative correlation of about 0.3 indicates that as ADHD symptoms increase, intelligence levels tend to decrease slightly.

πŸ’‘Executive Functioning

Executive functioning is a set of cognitive processes that include working memory, decision-making, and self-regulation. The script suggests that ADHD may interfere with executive functioning, which could partially explain the lower average IQ scores observed in individuals with ADHD.

πŸ’‘Misdiagnosis

Misdiagnosis in the context of the script refers to the incorrect assignment of ADHD to gifted individuals who may exhibit inattention due to boredom. The speaker argues against this notion, stating that being bored does not equate to having ADHD.

πŸ’‘Brain Injury

Brain injury is mentioned in the script as a possible cause for some individuals with ADHD, suggesting that acquired ADHD (not genetic) could be due to brain injuries sustained prenatally, during early childhood, or later in life, which might contribute to lower intelligence levels in some cases.

πŸ’‘Acquired ADHD

Acquired ADHD refers to cases where ADHD is not inherited but developed due to brain injuries or other factors. The script mentions that a significant percentage of individuals with ADHD may have acquired it, which could affect their intelligence levels.

πŸ’‘Self-Motivation

Self-motivation is the ability to initiate and persist in tasks without external influence. The script contrasts this trait, which is common in gifted individuals, with the self-motivational deficits often seen in individuals with ADHD, highlighting the differences between the two groups.

Highlights

Russ Barkley discusses the relationship between ADHD and intelligence, specifically addressing the claim that individuals with ADHD may be more likely to be gifted.

There is a negative correlation between the severity of ADHD and level of intelligence, with an average IQ difference of 7-10 points lower in untreated individuals with ADHD compared to the general population.

People with ADHD span the entire range of intelligence, from intellectually disabled to gifted, but on average, untreated individuals with ADHD have a slightly lower IQ.

The possibility that ADHD symptoms interfere with test-taking behavior, potentially contributing to the observed lower IQ scores.

ADHD may have a direct effect on IQ due to its adverse impact on executive functioning, which is a significant component of IQ tests.

Some individuals with ADHD may have acquired brain injuries that could explain some of the lower intelligence levels observed.

Contrary to a claim made over 30 years ago, people with ADHD are not more likely to be gifted or have higher levels of intelligence.

A study in the International Journal of Mental Health and Addiction compared children with ADHD who are gifted to those who are not, finding that ADHD symptoms are milder in gifted individuals.

Gifted individuals with ADHD are found to have less severe symptoms compared to those with ADHD who are not gifted.

Giftedness and ADHD are distinct and do not overlap significantly; when they coexist, one does not explain the other.

The claim that gifted children are more likely to be misdiagnosed with ADHD due to boredom in the classroom is not supported by evidence.

An article in the journal Apex finds that gifted individuals are less likely to show symptoms of ADHD.

Attributes of gifted individuals, such as high self-motivation and independence, are often the opposite of what is observed in ADHD.

The one attribute of gifted individuals that overlaps with ADHD is the tendency to be easily bored with routine tasks.

Barkley concludes that the claims made over the past 30 years about the intelligence and giftedness of individuals with ADHD are not true; they are just like the typical population.

Individuals with ADHD can be gifted, and gifted people can have ADHD, but these conditions do not inherently correlate.

Transcripts

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hi everyone Russ Barkley here and in

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today's commentary I want to speak with

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you about the relationship of ADHD to

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intelligence in general and specifically

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to giftedness claims have been made

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going back some 30 or more years now

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that people with ADHD particularly

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adults may be more likely to be gifted

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than other individuals or certainly of

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high levels of intelligence we've also

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heard the reverse claim the possibility

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that gifted individuals may be more

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likely to have ADHD and manifested in

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the classroom primarily because they're

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bored I'm going to look at both sides of

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that argument but let's begin with this

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Association of ADHD with intelligence

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and I'm going to use this particular

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friend of ours the old bell curve and

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here we see the bell curve of

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intelligence in the general population

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and most people place here within the

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average range but we also have

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individuals who are way up here about

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two standard deviations above the norm

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the norm being about an IQ of a hundred

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plus or minus 15 and this being IQs of

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about 130 or higher depending on how you

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want to Define giftedness and then of

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course there's a group of individuals

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who place at the lower end of the bell

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curve and we would consider these

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individuals to be intellectually

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deficient and what used to be called

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mental retardation but obviously that ID

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diagnosis is based on other things

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besides IQ but the point is here's our

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range of intelligence in the population

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what do we see in research on ADHD first

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we see that there is a negative

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correlation between severity of ADHD and

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level of intelligence correlation is

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about 0.3 means that the 2 two traits

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share about nine percent variation and

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the higher your ADHD symptoms are you're

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going to be slightly below the norm

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average about seven to ten points lower

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than individuals in the typical

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population so it's a very small

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difference people with ADHD span the

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whole range of intelligence from

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intellectually disabled all the way up

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to gifted but on average as a group

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untreated individuals with ADHD Place

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slightly lower than the typical

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population they would have a bell curve

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and its peak would be somewhere right

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about here in other words the two curves

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would overlap substantially

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that's my point people with ADHD span

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the entire range of typical

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people but their Peak IQ would be

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somewhere right around it here again

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about seven to ten points lower than

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average that's been found in hundreds of

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studies meta-analyzes of measures of

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intelligence and executive functioning

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and so on so it's a fact in the bag it's

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not disputable

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on the other hand why does that occur

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one possibility is that people with ADHD

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don't take IQ tests very well their

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symptoms interfere with test taking

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makes perfect sense there have been

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studies that have looked at that and

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they've put some individuals with ADHD

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on medication and other individuals not

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they've also tested people on and off

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their medication and what they find is

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that yes test taking Behavior does

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account for a few points in this seven

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to ten point difference

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so correct test taking could be part of

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the problem in other words there's not

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as much of a difference between ADHD and

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typical people other than in test taking

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the second possibility is that ADHD

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interferes with executive functioning

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we've talked about that in many of my

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lectures here

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about 40 percent of your IQ is executive

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functioning roughly we can see that

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because some of the subtests on IQ tests

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are things like working memory among

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other executive functions so it's

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possible that there is a direct effect

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of ADHD on IQ because of its adverse

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effect on the executive function so that

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could explain a few percentage points

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here and Studies have been done that

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have controlled for executive

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functioning and looked at these IQ

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differences and indeed

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some of the IQ difference is related to

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Executive functioning deficits but not

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all of it

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so there's a few percentage points left

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that is not explained by test taking or

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by executive functioning it's possible

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that those few points lower an IQ are

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the result of some people with ADHD have

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acquired their ADHD it's resulted in

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brain injury and that brain injury would

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explain some of the lower intellect in

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those individuals upwards of about 25 to

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35 percent of people with ADHD acquired

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it they didn't inherit it it's not

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genetic it's the result of injuries to

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the brain either prenatally during brain

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development or in early childhood such

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as traumatic brain injury or later in

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adulthood for a variety of causes so

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that might explain some of the residual

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differences again people with ADHD span

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the same range of intelligence as people

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without ADHD but overall on average

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there's slightly lower levels of

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intelligence for various reasons what

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does that mean

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are people with ADHD therefore more

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likely than typical people to be gifted

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absolutely not if anything all of this

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evidence suggests the opposite there's a

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slightly lower percentage

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of giftedness among those with ADHD it's

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probably very small you'd have to have

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huge studies samples that is to find it

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but the point is all this evidence gives

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the lie to the claim that was started

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more than 30 years ago that people with

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ADHD are more likely to be gifted or of

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higher levels of intelligence

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than other individuals they're not

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they're just like the rest of us they

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span the entire range of intelligence so

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there you have it people with ADHD are

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not more likely to be gifted now let's

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move on to a couple of papers here that

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I want to talk about

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let's take a look at our people who have

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ADHD and are gifted

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different from other people who are

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gifted or different from people with

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ADHD who aren't gifted this is a study

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of children there are several like this

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I'm just going to illustrate this one

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that's in the international Journal of

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mental health and addiction and they

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compared children at all three of those

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groups typical but gifted

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ADHD and gifted and just ADHD average

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not gifted what did they find what they

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found is that the disorder of ADHD is

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the same

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in the gifted and non-gifted ADHD group

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but the gifted individuals had slightly

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less severe symptoms still met the

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criteria but milder symptoms and we've

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seen this as I said in other studies so

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if anything what we see is that gifted

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individuals are slightly less likely to

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have ADHD and if they do have ADHD it's

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somewhat less severe than the typical

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population but the differences are

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pretty minor if we compare gifted people

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with ADHD to gifted people without ADHD

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we of course see that the gifted with

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ADHD have massive symptoms of ADHD after

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all they met the diagnostic criteria for

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it

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but what does all of this mean in these

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comparisons it means that giftedness and

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ADHD are two distinct things and they

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don't overlap very much at all

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and when they do overlap you're gifted

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and your ADHD you can have both of these

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conditions it's not like one is

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masquerading as the other it's not as if

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the gifted people are more likely to

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have ADHD or ADHD people are more likely

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to be gifted the two conditions can

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coexist and probably do so at about the

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same rate in the population maybe a

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little bit less likely to be ADHD among

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the gifted now let's look at the reverse

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claim and that is that kids who are

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gifted let me go to the top here are

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more likely to be called ADHD and to

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have ADHD after all if they're

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unchallenged in the classroom and

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they're bored the claim is that they're

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going to show a lot of ADHD type

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symptoms first of all I find this going

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to be ridiculous just being bored

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doesn't put you in the clinical range of

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ADHD or where you've got at least six to

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twelve

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of the symptoms of ADHD to a significant

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clinical degree that just doesn't make

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any sense so yeah you might be a little

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bored and a little inattentive but I

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don't find that particularly compelling

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so where did this idea come from

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well this article examines the

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background for this claim and finds that

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there's very little of any evidence for

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the idea that gifted people are more

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likely to have ADHD

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this is in the journal Apex and as you

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can see here excuse me it's by Kylie

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Edwards but if we go on down here what

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we find is that gifted individuals are

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less likely to show symptoms of ADHD

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which we found in those other research

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papers not more likely to have the

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symptoms of ADHD and what this article

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does is to go through and call pull

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together the

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comments of experts teachers and others

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on what are the attributes of gifted

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individuals and are those attributes in

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any way overlapping with ADHD and we can

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see here multiple attributes in the area

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of learning characteristics the gifted

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demonstrate a variety

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of Behavioral and cognitive attributes

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that are different from typical

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individuals but if you'll scan down this

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list none of these overlap with ADHD in

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fact if anything people with ADHD would

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be less likely to demonstrate some of

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these particular learning attributes

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such as independently seeks to discover

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why and how things happen and formulates

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ideas with evidence and so on I mean

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people with ADH are likely to do that

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too but that's not part of their ADHD

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certainly not a DSM symptom in the area

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of creativity if we look down this list

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none of these symptoms of giftedness if

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we can call them that attributes of

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giftedness overlap with ADHD again if

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anything they go in the opposite

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direction

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that's especially true here when we look

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at the motivational characteristics of

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gifted individuals self-directed High

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self-motivation very persistent very

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committed reliable and so on and prefer

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to work independently these are almost

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the Opposites of the complaints we hear

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from people with ADHD because of their

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self-motivational and executive and

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self-regulatory deficits and then

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finally down here look at leadership

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characteristics and you'll see that none

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of these are symptoms of ADHD in any way

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and if we go and take a look at that

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self-determination set of

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characteristics again we see little if

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any overlap with symptoms of ADHD often

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the opposite except One symptom that

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I've highlighted here is easily bored

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with routine tasks that's it

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so

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based on this we can say that the

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attributes of gifted people are not the

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attributes of ADHD in many cases they're

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the opposite of that

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we can also conclude that people with

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ADHD can be gifted

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and gifted people come out ADHD and when

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we see the two together both occur

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together one isn't explaining the other

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and as I've said we've already shown

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that people with ADHD span the entire

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range of typical population IQ they're

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just like us if there's a small

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difference it's slightly negative a few

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IQ points lower on average

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but individuals with ADHD can span the

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whole range from intellectually disabled

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all the way up to gifted as I've said

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before so I think we can say that these

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claims that were made over the past 30

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years of people with ADHD being highly

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intelligent people with ADHD being more

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likely to be gifted and also the

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opposite gifted people being more likely

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to be ADHD are not true

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people with ADHD are just like the

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typical population in these attributes

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so thanks for joining me for this

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