Do ND Filters Matter? No filter vs ND vs NDPL Filter

Keith Knittel
1 Oct 202009:08

Summary

TLDRThis video script explores the use of ND and polarizing filters for cinematic video in bright environments. It explains how ND filters reduce light to maintain exposure and shutter speed without altering camera settings, essential for natural motion blur. The script compares different ND filter strengths for various lighting conditions and highlights the benefits of polarization in reducing glare from reflective surfaces. It also provides practical advice on filter alignment and choosing the right ND strength for optimal video quality.

Takeaways

  • πŸ“Ή ND filters are essential for shooting cinematic video in bright environments as they reduce the amount of light reaching the camera sensor without changing camera settings.
  • βš™οΈ Polarizing filters are used to remove glare and reflections from objects in the shot, enhancing detail and potentially lowering exposure.
  • 🌞 The need for ND filters in photography depends on the situation; they are particularly useful for slow shutter speed shots during the day to manage exposure.
  • πŸ“Έ Using the correct ND filter strength is crucial for maintaining the desired shutter speed and achieving natural-looking motion blur in video.
  • πŸ”„ Polarizing filters require proper alignment to effectively remove glare and reflected light; an alignment marker can assist with this.
  • πŸŽ₯ The script tests different ND and polarized ND filters, including the ND16 from DJI and the polarized ND16PL from PolarPro's Vivid line.
  • 🎨 The use of corrective LUTs in DaVinci Resolve is mentioned for easier color correction when using different filters.
  • πŸ“Š The script provides a guideline for ND filter strength selection based on lighting conditions and shooting frame rates.
  • πŸŒ† For 24 frames per second shooting, ND4 is recommended for overcast golden hours, ND8 for clear golden hours, ND16 for semi-cloudy midday, and ND32 for extremely bright days.
  • 🌞 In very bright conditions, using an ND32 and increasing the frame rate can help manage exposure while maintaining motion blur.
  • πŸ› οΈ Choosing the right ND filter strength is simplified by understanding the environmental lighting and the desired aesthetic effect on the footage.

Q & A

  • What is the primary purpose of using ND filters in video shooting?

    -The primary purpose of using ND filters is to reduce the amount of light that reaches the camera sensor, allowing for proper exposure in bright environments without adjusting camera settings.

  • Why is maintaining a 180-degree shutter angle important for cinematic video?

    -Maintaining a 180-degree shutter angle is important because it synchronizes the shutter speed with double the frame rate, which helps to achieve natural-looking motion blur and aesthetically pleasing visuals.

  • What happens if you shoot during the day with a fixed aperture of 2.8, ISO at 100, and without an ND filter?

    -If you shoot during the day with a fixed aperture of 2.8, ISO at 100, and without an ND filter, the shot may appear overexposed, lacking the desired motion blur and potentially looking too digital or blurry.

  • Can ND filters be used for photography as well? If so, in what scenarios?

    -Yes, ND filters can be used for photography, particularly when shooting with a slow shutter speed during the day to allow for motion blur in moving subjects, which helps in controlling exposure.

  • How do polarizing filters differ from ND filters in terms of their effect on a shot?

    -Polarizing filters are designed to remove glare and reflections from objects in the shot, adding more detail where glare was present and reducing the overall exposure. They are especially useful when filming reflective surfaces like cars, glass buildings, or water.

  • What is the significance of the polarization indicator on PolarPro's Vivid line of filters?

    -The polarization indicator on PolarPro's Vivid line of filters helps users to easily judge and adjust the polarization, ensuring the filter is properly aligned to remove glare and reflected light, which is particularly handy when using a drone.

  • How does the alignment of a polarizing filter affect the image quality?

    -If a polarizing filter is not properly aligned, it may not effectively remove glare and reflections, resulting in a brighter image due to the lack of polarization. Improper alignment can also cause cross patterns or dark spots in the image.

  • What are the recommended ND filter strengths for different lighting conditions when shooting at 24 frames per second?

    -For overcast golden hour, an ND4 is recommended; for clear golden hour, an ND8 is used; for semi-cloudy midday conditions, an ND16 is suitable; for blazing hot, bright days with no clouds, an ND32 is appropriate; and for super bright conditions closer to the equator, an ND64 may be necessary.

  • If you could only choose three ND filters, which ones would you recommend and why?

    -The recommended three ND filters would be an ND8, ND16, and ND32, as these are the most commonly used filters for shooting cinematic video at 24 frames per second in various lighting conditions.

  • What is a helpful tip for managing exposure when using an ND32 and still facing overexposure?

    -If using an ND32 and still experiencing overexposure, increasing the frame rate to 60 frames per second and adjusting the shutter speed accordingly can help. This maintains natural-looking motion blur while allowing for a darker exposure when the footage is slowed down.

Outlines

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πŸ“Ή Understanding ND Filters for Cinematic Video

This paragraph discusses the necessity of using ND (Neutral Density) filters in video shooting, especially in bright conditions, to control exposure without altering camera settings. It explains the function of ND filters in reducing light reaching the camera sensor and the importance of maintaining a 180-degree shutter angle for natural motion blur. The speaker also addresses the use of ND filters in photography for achieving slow shutter speeds during the day and the challenges of using them with drones due to wind and vibrations. Polarizing filters are introduced as tools for removing glare from reflective surfaces, with the need for proper alignment to be effective. The paragraph concludes with a test of ND and polarized ND filters from DJI and PolarPro, including the use of corrective LUTs for easier editing in DaVinci Resolve.

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πŸ” The Impact of Polarization on Video Quality

The second paragraph delves into the effects of polarization on video footage, highlighting the importance of proper alignment for optimal results. It describes tests conducted at different positions of the polarizing filter to observe the changes in glare reduction and exposure. The speaker notes that while polarizing filters are effective at reducing indirect glare, they cannot eliminate all direct reflections, especially from the sun's impact on water surfaces. The paragraph provides recommendations for ND filter strengths suitable for various lighting conditions and frame rates, emphasizing the versatility of ND8, ND16, and ND32 filters. A tip for managing overexposure using higher frame rates and shutter speeds is also shared, concluding with an invitation for feedback and a light-hearted note about sharing the video.

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Keywords

πŸ’‘ND Filters

Neutral Density (ND) filters are optical filters that reduce the amount of light entering the camera without affecting the color or contrast of the image. In the context of the video, ND filters are crucial for shooting cinematic video in bright environments, as they help maintain proper exposure levels and achieve the desired shutter speed without overexposing the shot. For instance, the script mentions using different strengths of ND filters depending on the lighting conditions, such as ND4 for overcast golden hour and ND32 for extremely bright days.

πŸ’‘Polarizing Filters

Polarizing filters are designed to reduce reflections from non-metallic surfaces and glare, which can enhance the color saturation and contrast in a scene. The video discusses the use of polarizing filters to remove glare from reflective surfaces like water or glass, thereby adding more detail to the shot. The script gives an example of using a polarizing ND filter from PolarPro's Vivid Line, which includes a polarization indicator to help achieve the correct alignment for glare reduction.

πŸ’‘Shutter Speed

Shutter speed in video refers to the length of time the camera's sensor is exposed to light, which affects the motion blur in the footage. The video emphasizes the importance of adhering to the '180-degree shutter rule,' which suggests setting the shutter speed to double the frame rate for natural-looking motion blur. For example, shooting at 24 frames per second would require a shutter speed of 1/50th of a second.

πŸ’‘Aperture

Aperture refers to the size of the opening in a camera lens that controls the amount of light entering. The script mentions a fixed aperture of 2.8, which is a relatively wide opening allowing more light in, but also affecting the depth of field and exposure levels in bright conditions.

πŸ’‘ISO

ISO measures the sensitivity of the camera's sensor to light. A lower ISO, like the 100 mentioned in the script, indicates less sensitivity and therefore requires more light to achieve a properly exposed image. This setting is often used in bright conditions to avoid overexposure.

πŸ’‘Motion Blur

Motion blur is the visual effect that occurs when fast-moving objects in a scene appear blurred due to the shutter speed. The video explains how a slower shutter speed can create a more aesthetically pleasing motion blur, which is desirable in cinematic video to avoid a digital or overly sharp look.

πŸ’‘Exposure

Exposure in photography and videography is the measure of the amount of light that reaches the camera sensor, affecting the brightness and detail of the image. The script discusses how ND filters help manage exposure in bright conditions, allowing for proper levels without adjusting camera settings.

πŸ’‘Glare

Glare is the unwanted bright light that can cause reflections or reduce visibility in a shot. The video script explains how polarizing filters can reduce glare from reflective surfaces, improving the overall quality of the image by allowing more detail to be seen where glare was previously present.

πŸ’‘Reflections

Reflections are images formed by light bouncing off surfaces. The video discusses how polarizing filters can minimize reflections, particularly useful when filming water or glass, by reducing the light that bounces back into the camera lens.

πŸ’‘LUTs

LUTs, or Look-Up Tables, are used in video editing to apply color grading and correction to footage. The script mentions creating corrective LUTs with a Color Checker Passport to normalize the color casts introduced by different filters, making post-production easier.

πŸ’‘Frame Rate

Frame rate is the number of individual images (frames) that are displayed per second in a video. The video script suggests increasing the frame rate to 60 frames per second if the exposure is still too bright at 24 frames per second with an ND32 filter, which also requires increasing the shutter speed to maintain natural motion blur.

Highlights

ND filters are essential for shooting cinematic video in bright environments as they reduce the amount of light reaching the camera sensor.

Polarizing filters can be used to remove glare and reflections from objects in the shot, enhancing detail and reducing exposure.

Maintaining a 180-degree shutter angle is crucial for achieving natural-looking motion blur in video.

ND filters help lower overexposed shots to a normal level without changing camera settings.

Slow shutter speeds during the day can create motion blur but also increase exposure, where ND filters are beneficial.

Using ND filters for photography, especially in landscapes, can help achieve slower shutter speeds without overexposure.

Proper alignment of polarizing filters is necessary to effectively remove glare and reflected light.

PolarPro's Vivid line features a polarization indicator, simplifying the alignment process for polarizing filters.

The polarization effect of filters can be tested by comparing footage with and without the filter at different alignments.

ND filters can be used to simulate a proper 180-degree shutter angle without a filter, by reducing light intake.

Different ND filter strengths are recommended for various lighting conditions, such as ND4 for overcast golden hours.

ND32 is suitable for extremely bright days with no clouds, while ND64 is rarely needed except in very bright conditions near the equator.

If only three filters are to be chosen, ND8, ND16, and ND32 are the most versatile for shooting at 24 frames per second.

Using an ND32 and increasing the frame rate to 60 frames per second can help manage overexposure while maintaining motion blur.

Polarizing filters, when properly aligned, can significantly reduce reflections and glare, improving the overall image quality.

Direct glare or reflection from the sun cannot be completely removed by polarizing filters, even when properly aligned.

For cinematic video shooting, choosing between no filter, ND filter, and polarized ND filter depends on the need to manage reflections and light exposure.

Transcripts

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a common question i get asked is do you

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need nd filters for video

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and if so what strength of nd filters do

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you need

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and even further should i get nd filters

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with polarization

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nd filters do matter if you're trying to

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shoot cinematic video in bright

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environments

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when it comes to polarization it can

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depend on your shot first off let's get

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a better idea of what nd filters do

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and what polarizing filters do for your

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camera nd filters are designed to reduce

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the amount of light that reaches your

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camera sensor

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if your exposure is too bright shooting

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with an nd filter can help

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lower your exposure to a normal level

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without adjusting your camera settings

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this is common for filming in bright

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environments while shooting at the 180

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degree shutter angle

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meeting your shutter speed is double

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your frame rate

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for the example in this video i was

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shooting at 24 frames per second

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and my shutter speed was 1 50th this

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achieves natural looking motion blur

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and objects just look aesthetically

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pleasing to your eye without looking

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digital

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or too blurry however during the day my

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aperture was a fixed 2.8 and my iso was

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100

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and my shot looked really overexposed

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this is where nd filters help

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another common question is do you need

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nd filters for photography

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and again it depends on what you want to

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do shooting with a slow shutter speed

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during the day

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can allow for some motion blur in

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filming moving subjects

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but it will also increase your exposure

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this is where nd filters can help bring

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that exposure down to a normal level

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using the correct nd filter for your

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application will decrease your exposure

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to normal levels

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while maintaining the shutter speed that

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you want shooting landscapes at a slower

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shutter speed with an nd filter

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is common in photography but hard to do

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with the drone

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wind and vibrations of hovering move the

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drone slightly

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making for a pretty blurry image it can

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be done with the drone but it's

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difficult

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polarizing filters are designed to

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remove glare in reflections from objects

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in your shot

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if you're filming reflective surfaces

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like cars glass buildings or

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water it's a good idea to use a

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polarizing filter cutting down glare

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will add

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more detail to your shot where the glare

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was previously

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removing the glare will also bring down

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the overall exposure of your shot

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one thing to keep in mind with

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polarizing filters though is that they

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need to be adjusted to the proper

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polarization to remove the glare and

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reflected light

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it can be tricky to get proper alignment

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but we're going to be using polarpro's

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vivid line that has a polarization

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indicator

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and we're going to test to see if that

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does make it easier to judge the

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polarization

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this is especially handy if you're using

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a drone because if you get the

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polarization

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wrong you're going to have to bring the

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drone back land

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adjust the polarization and then go fly

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to your spot again

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i went to my go-to testing spot in the

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middle of the day for

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maximum glare off the water in this test

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i flew without a lens to simulate what

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proper 180 degree shutter angle would

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look like without a filter

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and i took the nd16 from dji that came

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in the fly more kit

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and a polarized nd16pl from polarpro's

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vivid line of filters

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each of these filters have really slight

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different color casts from the regular

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stock

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no filter but to make my editing life as

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easy as possible i made some corrective

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luts with my color checker passport with

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each of these filters

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and no lens in davinci resolve if you're

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interested in my

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cinelike to neutral lut for the no

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filter dji filter and the polar pro

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filter that i'm using in this video

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check out the link in the description

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below

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for camera settings i was staying with

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the 180 degree shutter rule at 24 frames

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per second

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my iso was 100 and my fixed 2.8 aperture

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first up no filter this was obviously

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overexposed and

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needs some major help this is where the

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nd 16 from dji comes in to bring

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the overall exposure of our shot down

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the nd filter helps bring our exposure

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down without adjusting our camera

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settings

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you can see the edges of the frame where

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the pier is moving quickly there is some

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gentle motion blur that the slower

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shutter speed is allowing us to capture

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the blur is more obvious in faster

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moving subjects but for the sake of this

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test

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this is the most motion blur we're going

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to get here next up is the polarized

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nd16 filter from polar pro

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this filter is following polarpro's best

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practices where we're filming with the

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line of the filter

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at 12 o'clock on the top of the filter

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this seems to hold true and have a

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polarizing effect on our footage

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the nd16 is keeping our exposure just as

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low as the dji filter was but in

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addition to cutting down the light

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that's hitting our camera

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the filter is also removing some of the

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glare off of the water as well

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you can tell the difference in

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reflections when comparing the nd16pl

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to the nd16 side by side after flying

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the polar pro filter at 12 o'clock i

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decided to adjust the filter to six

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o'clock

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to see how it affected our overall image

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overall the image looks pretty similar

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maybe not as strong as 12 o'clock

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after that flight i wanted to find a

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spot where the filter didn't perform as

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well

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just to make sure i'm getting the best

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performance out of this filter

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so i decided to put the filter at the

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nine o'clock position

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and see how well it worked as suspected

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the polarization didn't work as well and

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the overall image was brighter

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due to the lack of polarization the

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filter performs more like an nd16

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and maybe even like an nd8 just because

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it wasn't properly aligned

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one thing to mention here though is that

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the polarizing filter will remove

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most indirect glare but it won't remove

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all glare

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there's still some glare coming off the

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water where the sun is directly hitting

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off of the water

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into the lens so even if you're using a

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polarizing filter and it's properly

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aligned

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there will still be some amount of

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direct glare or reflection affecting

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your image

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the polarizer cuts out the large

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majority of reflections but not all of

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them

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this is most apparent when we're looking

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at the water straight down from the top

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of the pier

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while the polarizer did a good job at

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removing indirect reflections coming off

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of the water

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the direct reflections from the sun were

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almost the same on all of these filters

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even the polarized filter if you're

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going to be shooting cinematic video in

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the middle of the day

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or any time of the day you're probably

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going to need an nd filter

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where filters get interesting is when

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you add polarization to the mix

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if you have indirect reflections coming

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off of surfaces the polarizer can cut

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off the light reflecting from those

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surfaces

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only if it's properly aligned and if

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it's not properly aligned

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it can work the same as a regular nd

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filter maybe a little weaker but you

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could experience some

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weird cross patterns or dark spots in

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the polarization if you're not careful

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if you do not need to cut out

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reflections regular old

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nd filters are going to be the easiest

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to use

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if you do need to cut down reflections

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on your shots make sure you're using a

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polarizing filter

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and make sure it's aligned properly i

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like the polar pro filters have the

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alignment marker

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it just makes your life a little bit

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easier getting that polarization correct

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another common question i get asked is

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what nd

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strengths do you recommend and for what

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times

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i'll give a brief overview of the nd

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filters that i'm shooting with when i'm

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shooting 24 frames per second

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and just as a disclaimer this is an

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oversimplification

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i live in ohio and if you live in a

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brighter area you may need to go

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up a strength but here we go

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oversimplification i use an

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nd4 at golden hour when it's overcast i

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use an nd8 at golden hour when it's

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clear

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nd16 for the middle of the day in

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semi-cloudy conditions like the example

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footage in this video

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nd 32 for blazing hot bright days with

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no clouds

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i've only used an nd64 a few times in

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super bright conditions that were closer

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to the equator

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if i had to choose only three filters to

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go with i would choose an

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nd8 and nd 16 in an nd32

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these are the filters i use most when

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i'm out shooting cinematic video at 24

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frames per second

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i was recently in california for a week

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driving the pacific coast highway from

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san francisco to san diego

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and i didn't use anything over an nd32

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and a helpful tip if you're out using an

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nd32

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and you're still too bright shooting at

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24 frames per second

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you can bump up your frame rate and then

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you have to bump up your shutter speed

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as well to maintain that natural looking

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motion blur

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so if you're shooting at 24 frames per

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second with the mavic air for example in

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4k

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and it's too bright shoot 4k 60 and

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increase your shutter speed you'll still

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have the same amount of motion blur when

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you slow your footage down

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but it'll be darker and you will get

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away with that

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nd 64 while using an nd32

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that was a little confusing and kind of

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technical but hopefully that helps when

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you're choosing between no filter

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nd filter and polarized nd filter

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if you like this video give it a thumbs

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thanks for sticking around to the end

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and i'll see you in the next one

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