Mapping the Optimal Supply Chain for Biologics, from Formulation to Clinic

Berkshire Sterile
17 Nov 202157:46

Summary

TLDR本日のウェビナーでは、バイオロジカルの最適なサプライチェーンマッピングに関する議論が行われました。Sharp ClinicalとBerkshire Sterile Manufacturingの専門家が、バイオロジカルの製造から臨床までの供給網の要素、課題、および解決策について詳述。臨床試験市場の成長戦略、パートナーの選定、そして臨床試験の複雑さを軽減する方法が重点的に紹介されました。ウェビナーは、参加者が質疑応答セッションを通じてスピーカーと積極的に対話することを促しました。

Takeaways

  • 😀 このウェビナーでは、生物製剤の最適なサプライチェーンについて説明します。
  • 🤔 ウェビナーは60分間で、プレゼンテーションとQ&Aセッションが含まれます。
  • 📊 生物製剤の市場は急速に成長しており、特に臨床試験と商業化において重要な役割を果たしています。
  • 💊 伝統的な医薬品と比較して、生物製剤のサプライチェーンは複雑で、多くの特別な取り扱いが必要です。
  • 🧊 温度管理が重要で、冷蔵および冷凍の取り扱いが必要となる場合があります。
  • 📦 適切なサプライチェーンパートナーの選定が、成功するための鍵です。
  • 💡 製造プロセス、ラベル付け、包装、物流など、各段階での計画と準備が重要です。
  • 🕵️‍♂️ サプライチェーンの途中で複数のベンダーを管理することが、時間と予算の消費を引き起こす可能性があります。
  • 📝 ウェビナー中に、製造業者と契約する際に重要な質問や考慮事項が紹介されました。
  • 📈 サプライチェーンをスムーズにするためには、早期からパートナーと協力し、明確なコミュニケーションを取ることが不可欠です。

Q & A

  • セミナーの主題は何ですか?

    -セミナーの主題は「生物制剂の最適なサプライチェーン:配方から診療所まで」です。

  • セミナーで紹介されたシャープ臨床のどのような役割がありますか?

    -シャープ臨床は、薬品およびバイオテクノロジークライアント向けのパッケージングや高度な臨床サプライチェーンサービスを提供するグローバルリーダーです。

  • サシャ・ソネンバーグがシャープ臨床に加入した時期と役職は何ですか?

    -サシャ・ソネンバーグは2019年9月にシャープ臨床に加入し、臨床試験市場における成長戦略を支援するグローバルビジネス開発責任者になりました。

  • アンドレア・ワグナーが設立した会社とその特長は何ですか?

    -アンドレア・ワグナーはバークシャー・ステアル製造を共同設立し、市場で求められていた未解決の需要に応えるためにユニークな隔離器ベースの柔軟なフィルラーを効果的に開発して、同業中脱颖而出しました。

  • セミナーで説明された生物制剂のサプライチェーンの特徴は何ですか?

    -生物制剂のサプライチェーンは、伝統的な医薬品のサプライチェーンと比較して、生体組織や細胞を含むliving organismsを扱うことが多々あるため、より複雑で管理が困難です。

  • セミナーで強調された「最適なパートナーを見つける」プロセスには何が含まれますか?

    -「最適なパートナーを見つける」プロセスには、パートナーの能力とサービスを理解するための質問の提唱、情報収集、要求情報(RFI)と提案要求書(RFP)の評価、見積もりの収集、最適なパートナーの選択が含まれます。

  • セミナーで説明された臨床試験サプライチェーンのどの段階で最も注意が必要ですか?

    -セミナーでは、計画と準備、分析と配方製造、一次包装、二次包装、保管と配送、実行とレビューの各段階で注意が必要ですが、特に計画と準備の段階で詳細な情報共有とコミュニケーションが重要です。

  • セミナーで提供されたポルの結果によると、参加者が最も関心を持っている点は何ですか?

    -ポルの結果によると、参加者は「品質システムと安定性の保証」に最も関心を持っており、次に「タイトなタイムラインの遂行」が続きました。

  • セミナーで説明された、CMOとの協力を円滑に進めるためのポイントは何ですか?

    -セミナーでは、CMOとの協力を円滑に進めるためのポイントとして、コミュニケーションの重要性、期待の管理、そして早期にパートナーを巻き込むことなどが説明されました。

  • セミナーで紹介された、生物制剂のグローバルな薬剤販売における動向はどうでしたか?

    -セミナーでは、2016年から2024年までの期間で生物技術製品の販売が増加し、特に生物制剂は全球的なブロックバスターの中で最も価値があると示されました。

Outlines

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👋 ウェビナーの開始と概要

本日のウェビナーのタイトルと目的、司会の紹介、ウェビナーの構成と参加者の参加方法について説明しています。また、スポンサー企業であるSharp Clinicalの紹介も行っています。Sharp Clinicalはグローバルな契約製薬包装および臨床供給チェーンサービスのリーダーです。

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📊 グローバルな薬品市場とバイオロジクスの重要性

バイオロジクス市場の成長とその重要性についてのデータを共有しています。特に、グローバルな薬品売上の中でのバイオロジクスの優位性や、その高価な治療コスト、慢性疾患に対する使用などに焦点を当てています。また、バイオロジクス供給チェーンの独自性とその影響についても触れています。

10:02

🔍 バイオロジクス供給チェーンの課題と対策

バイオロジクスの供給チェーンにおける様々な課題について詳述しています。特に、複雑なプロトコル、患者登録のリードタイム、国ごとの規制、冷蔵管理の必要性、物流の課題、複数のベンダー管理などについて説明しています。これらの課題に対する具体的な対策や、臨床試験供給チェーンの計画と準備についても触れています。

15:03

🤝 最適なCMOパートナーの選定と重要な質問

最適なCMO(契約製造機関)パートナーを選定する際の重要な考慮事項について説明しています。具体的には、タイミング、品質、アナリティカルテスト、製剤、ラベル付け、分配などの要素を含む質問のリストを提供しています。また、CMOとスポンサーの間での効果的なコミュニケーションの重要性についても強調しています。

20:04

🏗️ プロセスエンジニアリングと製造の役割

プロセスエンジニアリンググループ、品質管理グループ、品質保証グループ、製造グループなど、製品の製造プロセスに関与する主要なグループの役割について説明しています。各グループの具体的な責任や、計画と準備段階での重要なタスクについて詳述しています。

25:05

🚀 実行フェーズと品質管理

製造プロセスの実行フェーズについて説明しています。具体的には、プロセスエンジニア、製造チーム、品質管理チーム、品質保証チームがどのように連携して製品を製造し、品質を確保するかについて詳述しています。また、実行フェーズ中の重要なタスクや、デバイエーションを防ぐためのバッチレコードの承認の重要性についても触れています。

30:07

📦 販売後の品質管理とキッティング

製品の出荷後の品質管理プロセスについて説明しています。具体的には、品質管理グループがどのようにして最終的なリリーステストを行い、品質保証グループがどのようにしてすべての記録を確認し、コンプライアンス証明書を発行するかについて詳述しています。また、キッティングと分配プロセスについても触れています。

35:07

📝 契約と品質保証の重要性

契約を結ぶ前に考慮すべき技術的、品質的、タイミングの要素について説明しています。具体的には、すべての質問に対して十分な回答を得ること、仕様が満たされることを確認すること、品質文書の迅速かつ徹底的なレビューを行うことの重要性について強調しています。また、契約後のスムーズな移行を確保するためのコミュニケーションの重要性についても触れています。

40:09

❄️ 冷蔵管理と物流の課題

バイオロジクスの供給チェーンにおける冷蔵管理と物流の課題について説明しています。具体的には、デポの選定、輸送と保管の温度管理、包装とモニタリングソリューションの選択、国ごとの輸入許可の取得などについて詳述しています。また、リターンおよび破棄サービスの重要性についても触れています。

45:11

🏢 EUの資格者と輸入手続き

EUにおける資格者(QP)の役割と、輸入手続きの要件について説明しています。具体的には、QPがEUの規制に準拠して製品をリリースするプロセスや、供給チェーン監査の必要性について詳述しています。また、監査のスケジューリングやタイミングへの影響についても触れています。

50:13

📦 比較薬の調達と包装戦略

比較薬の調達と包装戦略について説明しています。特に、比較薬の価格や安定性データ、盲検化戦略、翻訳と規制承認のプロセスについて詳述しています。また、複雑な供給チェーンにおける主要な考慮事項や、適切なパートナーを早期に関与させる重要性についても触れています。

55:15

💬 Q&Aセッションのまとめ

ウェビナーの最後に行われたQ&Aセッションのまとめです。具体的には、参加者からの質問に対する回答を紹介し、CMOとのスケジュール調整、リリーステスト、独自の容器やバッグの提供などに関する具体的な質問と回答を含んでいます。また、今後のウェビナー改善のためのフィードバックの収集についても触れています。

Mindmap

Keywords

💡バイオロジカル

バイオロジカルは生物由来の医薬品を指し、体内で特定の機能を果たすことができる大分子化合物を含んでいます。このビデオでは、バイオロジカルの供給チェーンの最適化が議論されており、特に臨床試験から診療所への供給について焦点が当てられています。

💡供給チェーン

供給チェーンとは、原材料の調達から最終製品の配送までを網羅する一連のプロセスを指します。ビデオでは、バイオロジカルの供給チェーンに特有の課題とその解決策について詳述されています。

💡臨床試験

臨床試験は、新薬の安全性や有効性を評価するために患者に薬剤を投与する試験です。ビデオでは、バイオロジカルの臨床試験における供給チェーンの重要性が強調されています。

💡CMO(Contract Manufacturing Organization)

CMOとは、契約製造組織の略で、他の企業のために医薬品の製造を行ったり、関連サービスを提供する企業です。ビデオでは、CMOがバイオロジカルの製造と供給チェーンにどのように関与するかが説明されています。

💡プライマリパッケージング

プライマリパッケージングとは、製品を直接保護する包装のことであり、ビデオでは、バイオロジカルの製造後に行われ、製品の品質と安全性を確保する重要なプロセスとして触れられています。

💡セカンダリーパッケージング

セカンダリーパッケージングは、プライマリパッケージングの外側に配置される包装で、運搬や販売の際に製品をさらに保護します。ビデオでは、バイオロジカルのセカンダリーパッケージングの重要性とそれに付随する諸問題が議論されています。

💡冷链管理

冷链管理とは、製品が製造から配送までの間、特定の温度条件下で保管されることを保証するプロセスです。ビデオでは、バイオロジカルの保管と配送において冷链管理の重要性が強調されています。

💡比較剤

比較剤とは、臨床試験で新しい治療法と比較するために使用される既存の治療法のことです。ビデオでは、比較剤の供給とそれに関連するコストと課題について触れられています。

💡IRT(Interactive Response Technology)

IRTとは、インタラクティブレスポンス技術の略で、臨床試験で患者への薬剤の配布を管理するためのシステムです。ビデオでは、IRTシステムの導入とそれに伴う時間とコストの要件が議論されています。

💡QP(Qualified Person)

QPとは、適正な人物のことで、EUにおいて医薬品がGMP基準に従って加工されたことを保証する役割を持ちます。ビデオでは、QPがバイオロジカルのEUへの輸入とリリースプロセスにどのように関与するかが説明されています。

Highlights

今日的X Talks网络研讨会主题为“生物制剂从配方到临床的最佳供应链映射”,由Sumaya主持。

研讨会将包括与演讲者的问答环节,鼓励参与者通过聊天框提交问题和评论。

Sharp Clinical作为UDG Healthcare的一部分,为制药和生物技术客户提供包装和供应链服务。

Sasha Sonenberg作为Sharp Clinical全球业务发展负责人,支持临床试验市场的增长策略。

Andrea Wagner是Berkshire Sterile Manufacturing的联合创始人,专注于小批量无菌灌装。

网络研讨会旨在互动,最佳参与方式是积极提出问题和评论。

生物制剂在临床试验和商业阶段的增长,以及它们在全球畅销药品中的主导地位。

生物制剂供应链的独特性和对临床供应的影响,例如治疗成本、疾病治疗的个性化以及远程治疗的兴起。

生物制剂供应链面临的挑战,包括复杂性增加、患者招募时间缩短和跨国法规的多样性。

临床试验供应链的规划和准备,以及如何找到合适的服务提供商。

与服务提供商合作的重要性,以及在早期阶段就让他们参与项目。

Berkshire Sterling Manufacturing提供基于隔离器技术的无菌灌装和配方服务。

选择CMO(合同生产组织)时要考虑的因素,包括质量体系、时间线和灵活性。

评估CMO时的策略,包括信息请求、提案请求和报价收集。

确保与CMO的兼容性,包括质量保证和项目协调的重要性。

在CMO选择过程中,沟通的重要性以及如何建立有效的沟通流程。

在CMO执行阶段,如何确保生产过程的顺利进行和质量控制。

在与CMO合作时,如何管理期望并确保双方目标一致。

在临床试验供应链中,如何考虑和规划产品的存储和分发。

网络研讨会的问答环节,解答参与者关于CMO选择、合作和临床试验供应链的问题。

Transcripts

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well good day to everyone joining us and

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welcome to today's x talks webinar

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today's talk is entitled mapping the

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optimal supply chain for biologics from

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formulation to clinic my name is sumaya

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and i'll be your ex talks moderator for

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today

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today's webinar will live on for

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approximately 60 minutes this

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presentation includes a q a session with

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our speakers

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listen only mode please also note that

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this event will be recorded and made

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available for future streaming on

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xtalks.com

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at this point i'd like to thank sharp

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clinical who developed the content for

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this presentation

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sharp part of udg healthcare is a global

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leader in contract pharmaceutical

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packaging and advanced clinical supply

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chain services offering solutions and

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support to pharma and biotech clients

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from phase one trials all the way

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through to rapid launch and

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commercialization

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the organization has state of the art

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facilities in the united states united

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kingdom belgium and the netherlands and

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over 32 clinical depots globally

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covering every region of the world

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now it's my pleasure to introduce our

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speakers for today's event and our first

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speaker is sasha sonenberg sasha

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sonnenberg joined sharp clinical in

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september 2019 as global head of

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business development supporting sharp

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strategy for growth in the clinical

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trial market

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before joining sharp he held management

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positions at market and fable farmer

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services overseeing global operations

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and business development activities

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sonenberg is an active member of the isp

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community of practice on investigational

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products where he's a co-author of the

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good practice guide for booklet labels

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in clinical trials and currently leads a

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tax task team developing a good practice

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guide on patient-centric logistics

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direct-to-patient services

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and our second speaker is andrea wagner

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dr andrea wagner is a co-founder of

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berkshire sterile manufacturing she

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successfully grew the company to an

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industry leader in small batch sterile

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fill finish by effectively developing

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unique isolator-based flexible fillers

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to fulfill an unanswered demand in the

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market

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her role today involves closely

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monitoring the coordination of

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engineering quality manufacturing and

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project management teams to meet the

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constantly changing customer

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requirements and critical deadlines

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managing sales and client relationships

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and affecting affecting pivotal

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decisions the growth of the company to

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meet market needs

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so now without further ado i'll pass

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control to our first speaker and that's

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sasha's

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whenever you're ready you can go ahead

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and get started

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okay um thanks um shumaya for the very

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kind introduction and um warm up for

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today's webinar

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i hope that everybody can see my screen

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um and we will go to the first couple of

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slides before i hand over to andrea and

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then

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um you have the pleasure to to welcome

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you back for the remaining slides

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um yeah talking about the optimal supply

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chain for your biologics from

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formulation to clinic

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we see more and more biologics coming

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into clinical trials and of course also

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into commercial stage and before we move

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forward

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i want to make sure we are

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talk looking at what we will cover today

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so

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we will start with the brief industry

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overview i will keep it really short but

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just to

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bring everybody up to speed where we

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stand in regards to biologics and

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commercialization we will talk about the

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elements of the traditional supply chain

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um what to look out for what kind of

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challenges you might face and how to

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prepare and how to overcome them

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and then how to identify the right

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partner and what is very important also

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to being open to collaborate with your

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partner and to engage them at an early

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stage

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so let's have a look at the

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annual global drug sales

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when you look here at the graph on the

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left

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you see

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the development of

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drug sales between 2016 and up to 2024

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we see that biotech products um

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increase as well as other pharma

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products but what is important here is

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that in terms of

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um value

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the biologic drugs are having a

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dominating

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position among global blockbusters

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uh we know that 15

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of the top selling prescription drugs in

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2018 or 10 of them were biologics and

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overall 35

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53 of the top 100 selling prescription

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and otc products in 2018 were biotech

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products

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some of them are named here so we see

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that there is a huge market and

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what is important also when we look here

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to the next slide

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is i'm looking at the biologics value

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chain and

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what is making the biologic supply chain

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so unique

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and

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how it is impacting also clinical

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supplies what you see here on the table

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is on the left the traditional medicine

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small molecule drug supply chain and i

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will not go into the details here in the

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middle we have the modern biologics and

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on the right what has started and seen a

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huge development over the last three to

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five years the cell and gene therapy

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market but we will focus today

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on the modern biologic supply chain

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um we saw already on the previous slide

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that from the value perspective the

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biologics are on top of the

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of the graphs and um in a leading

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position and this is because that

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the therapy on an annual basis on

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average costs hundred thousand or even

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more it's used mainly for chronic

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diseases

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personalized um general remote

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treatments are coming and

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um

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it is something where

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when you go into the development um

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and you do um

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you have the product it's more

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difficult to handle in general this is

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because we are dealing here very often

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with living organisms with cells

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what we see as well is that

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the volumes in general are going down on

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the other side the number of batch um

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processes or manufactured batches

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actually

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increasing

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and

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because of the nature of the product

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we see a lot of requirements from a cold

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chain perspective which is making the

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global distribution especially at the

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stage of the clinical trial and also the

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warehousing more challenging as you need

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to maintain strict temperature

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requirements i need to establish

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and sometimes qualify validate solutions

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from packaging shipping

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and distribution to the site um and

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there are also a lot of

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track and trace technologies that

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potentially can be used in order to make

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your life easier and to gain real-time

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access to the data of the drug that you

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are distributing

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if you look to some of the challenges

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that we

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see

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currently

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we realize that

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protocols are becoming more complex and

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this is also something when we look to

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the current situation

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where we are in a um pandemic situation

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course because of covet 19

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there are discussions if it is a chance

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to simplify things or

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if protocols might become more complex

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um and um at the moment in order to

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mitigate risks um what i see is that

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protocols are actually becoming more

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complex uh lead times to enroll patients

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are becoming shorter

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um you have a lot of different countries

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specific regulations when it comes for

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the um about the or to the import

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of product

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dealing with multiple languages um with

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again the the regulations that come

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along with the different countries

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getting approval

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um to to use your label text

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very often with these kind of new drugs

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there's a lack of experience because

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there's no real historical data

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um the cold shame management also we

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have seen um a fast and and really

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pleasing development in terms of

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um technical solution when it comes to

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to shippers and loggers

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we still see issues in this area and

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especially

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um with the global

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vaccine distribution potentially

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absorbing a lot of coal chain capacity

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um there is a certain challenge there as

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well moving forward um general logistics

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um not just because of the the situation

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we face with covet

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but um

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logistics there can always be

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interruptions and with the sensitive

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product

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such as the biologics this can always be

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a challenge

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and another challenge is of course also

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cross-vendor management

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having multiple vendors involved because

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you might not

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find one that can provide all services

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managing all of them assuring the

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communication across them

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is working well

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is something that can be a challenge and

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can consume a lot of your time and of

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your budget

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so looking into

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the clinical trial supply road and it is

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a road that can be a very smooth road

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but it can also be a very bumpy road and

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i think the the key takeaways for today

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that we want to um

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share with you here and hopefully have

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as an outcome of today's webinar

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is

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what you need to do in order to to plan

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to find your right service provider and

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to make the road as smooth and um

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not as curvy as this one but straight

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and and make it an easy ride

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um so we will go through the different

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stages uh planning and preparation um

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analytical and formulation manufacturing

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and primary packaging where i will hand

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over soon to andrea and i will then

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cover again the secondary packaging part

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going looking more detailed into storage

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and distribution and execution and

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review

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and with that i will hand over to andrea

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who will now take the bsm part

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thank you sasha for the kind

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introduction

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um just so folks know um berkshire

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sterling manufacturing is a drug

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production

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company

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we are a fill finish company that

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provides sterile filling and formulation

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using isolator based technology and

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flexible fillers and by flexible fillers

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we can fill syringes vials and

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cartridges

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so

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i'm going to be speaking about the drug

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product production side of the business

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and some of the takeaways here

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are

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how to find the best cmo the typical

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timing required and what you can do as a

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sponsor of a cmo to

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have a smooth transition once you've

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found your perfect match for your cmo

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so let's talk a little bit about the

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drug product

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process and how it works

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so let's pretend

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that you're trying to find the right

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life partner

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and when doing so you might ask

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questions such as what are your

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interests how do you like your coffee

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what do you where do you like to go to

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dinner

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these are things that you're trying to

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get to know the other party and

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determine whether this would be a great

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fit for the long term

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well in a cmo you need to do the same

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thing

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you need to look at you need to ask a

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lot of questions and you need to know

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what questions to ask and so we're going

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to give you those tools

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and then once you find

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that perfect fit

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you're going to evaluate the cmo with a

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request for information a request for

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proposal

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and you're going to collect those quotes

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and then you're going to pick your cmo

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but there's a little bit more involved

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there

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and we're going to give you some tools

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in which to uncover

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the best

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partner so that you can find your

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perfect match

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but prior to making that choice you

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should understand this process and

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gather the data that's required and

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provide the correct timing

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so but before going on

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we'd like to

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do a poll question

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and this question is what are your

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greatest concerns when looking for fill

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finish cmo

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thank you andrea so

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audience members you should be seeing

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that poll question on your screens so

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like andrea mentioned that question is

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what what is your greatest concern when

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looking for full finished cmo and your

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options are as follows the quality

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system stability assurance or that's

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meeting your tight timeline or that's

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container flexibility or that could be

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cost or it's other so you can go ahead

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and vote on that poll just by clicking

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on the option that suits you best

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and once again that question is what is

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your greatest concern when looking for a

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full finished cmo

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okay i'll give you a couple more seconds

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to answer that i see that

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we're almost there majority of audience

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numbers are almost voting perfect so

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let's go ahead and close the poll

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and the results are as follows

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okay so you should be seeing the results

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on your screens

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and so the majority of votes went to the

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quality system stability assurance which

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was at 56 percent followed by meeting

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your tight timeline at 33

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and then cost at seven percent other at

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four percent and lastly no votes went to

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container flexibility

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so back to you andrea i'll send back

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control to you

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all right thank you so much

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thank you so much so

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the quality systems and sterility

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assurance number one not surprising

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um meaning your timeline number two

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um

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all right so going back to our perfect

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match you're looking for the right cmo

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and how do you do that how do you get

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there so we're going to help you with

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that

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as a cmo the questions that are posed to

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us are typically listed here

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when you're looking for a cmo you should

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consider what you need so for example do

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you need an immediate need timing is

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that important to you

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what do you need the next two years so

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the relationship here that you're

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choosing is a long-term relationship

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it's typically not a short term

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so ideally you want the cmo to take you

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at least two years out

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and you need to look at their quality

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and

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what the timing is again and things like

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analytical testing do you need that

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transferred formulation is it difficult

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or is it easy

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label kidding distribution do you is

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your cmo have those attributes do they

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have a partner like sharp that can

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perform that for you these are the types

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of questions that

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you might want to be asking

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and the cmo the contract manufacturing

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organization

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is likely to ask you a lot of questions

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so they might ask you things like your

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timing because their calendar may be

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full for nine months and you may need it

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in three months

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what is your lot size so your lot size

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meaning how many bios fringes or

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cartridges you might like to produce in

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one given lot

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if you're looking to do say 50 000 and

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the cmo you're talking to can only do 20

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000 that might be a problem for you you

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might not be able to cut that down

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the toxicity of the active

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pharmaceutical ingredient this is a

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really important one a lot of people

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kind of breeze over that so a lot of

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cmos have certain requirements for

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certain types of products and that

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should be a question um right up front

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do you handle

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a dea classified substance do you handle

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a toxicity of greater than three or

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cytotoxic product if you should have one

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and maybe that's important from you for

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you as well if you don't have a

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cytotoxic product you want to

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manufacture in a facility that handles

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those types of products so those are

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considerations how is your formulation

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done

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is it easy or does it require three days

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of complex manipulations

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other things like filling is your

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product light sensitive oxygen sensitive

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temperature sensitive can we accommodate

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for those in what phase are you at are

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you in a phase one uh trial or are you

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going into commercial are you in phase

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three do you need uh future capacity uh

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very quickly so these are things that

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you can consider as you're starting to

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develop that list

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and in finding the best fit both parties

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must be compatible so it's not a

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situation of oh i found the best fit but

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the cmo is not compatible with you

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meaning if you're getting

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information back that doesn't seem like

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it's going to fit that's an important

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aspect to consider

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speak to the internal people such as the

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process engineering group

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the quality control group the quality

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assurance group and the manufacturing if

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timing is tight make sure to speak with

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the materials folks and the planner

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to get accurate information about that

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and finally qa quality assurance is the

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backbone of the decision as we've um

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identified here during the poll they

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must be able to work together so if

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there's personality issues between the

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quality groups that is going to be a big

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problem later on so that needs to be

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resolved up front and should be a high

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criteria

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so

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let's talk about

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the struggles in finding the right cmo

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so in understanding the drug product

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production process is going to help you

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create that list of questions that you

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can then tackle with your potential cmos

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so let's map it out will enable you to

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get a better understanding of the

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process important aspects you need to

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determine the container so if you're

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looking to fill vials

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and i'm sorry if you're looking to fill

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syringes and your cmo only does vials

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then that's going to be a problem

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qc testing transfer how rugged does that

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need to be does it need to happen are

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you doing your pc elsewhere does the cmo

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require you to do certain things

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internally these are things that you

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need to ask about formulation again easy

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or complex and how much experience do

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they have if it is complex and by the

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way on the materials

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the

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equipment required for more complex

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formulations most cmos don't have um

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multi-use containers anymore so this is

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something you should consider as well

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sterilizing method do you need sterile

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filtration along along with steam

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sterilization is everything aseptic if

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you're terminally sterilizing and you

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don't need a septic

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control around your production then you

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shouldn't be paying for it

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and you're probably at the wrong cmo

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filling needs what type of fillers

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do you require i noticed that nobody

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looked at flexibility and filling but

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some people want may want to start in a

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vial and go to a syringe does your cmo

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have the capability to change over

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all right so now let's look at the

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approach

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so when you're looking at a cmo there's

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three stages on the drug product

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production side

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um so there's a planning and preparation

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then you have a really quick execution

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stage and then finally you have a

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release stage

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so

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uh let's look at the different groups

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involved so there's five critical groups

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process engineering quality control

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materials group

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qa and manufacturing these are all

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headed up by one person the coach which

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is the project manager

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some cmos may have project manager that

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can

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speak for all of these groups

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however i think it is important to be

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able to get in touch with the sme in

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inside of each of these groups so that

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might be a question that you might ask

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when you're doing your evaluation

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on the planning and prep side so let's

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break this out

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so here we are at the plane prep that

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could take a bit of time and let's talk

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about what each of these group members

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do so the process engineering group is

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going to take your formulation and

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they're going to transfer that

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information into documents they might do

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studies for you they're going to write

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your batch record

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in

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collaboration with all of these other

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groups

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but that is their role in

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transferring your

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product in for production

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on the quality control side the qc side

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they're going to be looking at doing

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method transfers if you have a validated

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method or qualification if you do not

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um they're going to perform your in

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process and final release testing

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they're also going to be in charge of

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releasing the materials and the

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chemicals that go into your

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product as well as the containers so

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these are important people to get to

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know

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on the materials group they're going to

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be ordering everything

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for your production and they're going to

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assist with the material specs

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and they're going to assist with the

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release and the kidding of data from of

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that material and we call

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at berkshire sterile anyway we call that

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a piece of paper the bill of materials

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the bomb

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so their role is pretty important as

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well

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and then on the quality assurance side

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this is again the backbone of the

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organization and they're going to be

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reviewing all the records and they're

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going to be signing off they're the last

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sign off on everything so

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being able to make sure that they can do

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sufficient review and work with your

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team as well because you're going to be

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signing off too

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now we go to the execution as i stated

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before this is the quick phase usually

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it lasts about a week

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the teams involved again are the four

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process engineering manufacturing

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quality control and quality assurance

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your project manager manager will be

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leading you through so the process

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engineers will assist in the formulation

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at least to start with until it becomes

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a normal process meaning usually it

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takes uh two to three times before

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manufacturing takes over but they're

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always there in the background

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doing being the coach the overseer of it

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on the manufacturing side

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there's four groups so there's a

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component prep group a formulation group

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a filth finish group and then an

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inspection group

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and they're they're basically the worker

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bees in terms of making sure that your

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product is formulated correctly it's

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documented it's filled appropriately

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and by the way i should have mentioned

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that some of the all the video that

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you're seeing here is in-house the

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berkshire sterile

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and um it's filled correctly and then

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it's inspected

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on the

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quality control side

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they'll be in charge during the

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execution phase of your in-process

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really

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testing so and i highly recommend that

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you make this in process testing as easy

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as possible so a ph test is ideal

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or a uv analysis once you get into doing

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hplc analysis it can be a little bit

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tricky and it can delay a fill if

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there's an issue

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uh with the standardization prior to

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running the test so we encourage um

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simple is better during that period of

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time and then quality assurance they

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really need to be on the floor

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so they need to be checking to make sure

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the records are being filled out at the

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time of um

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at the time that the work is being

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performed

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they need to be available to ensure that

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if there's any issue that they can

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escalate that

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their role is very very important at

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this stage as well

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now we go on to the release

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now we notice we drop that off one of

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our team members process engineers

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we have a review and release process

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that usually lasts four to six weeks

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after

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the production is completed

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in manufacturing they're going to be

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doing the inspection it should be a 100

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inspection

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sometimes this is automated most of the

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time it's not

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so that is an important aspect the

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quality control group is going to be

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doing

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the release testing and issuing the c of

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a the certificate of analysis

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and the equality assurance group is

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going to be reviewing all of the records

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and closing out any discrepancies

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related to the production

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and then issuing a cfc which is a

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certificate of compliance so those are

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all of the team members

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involved in the production of

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the

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drug product

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now once that's completed then it goes

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off to at least in our case to our

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partner sharp

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to be kitted and distributed and off to

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the patient now

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as mentioned before we need to think

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about timing so this will vary from

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client to client and cmo to cmo but you

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should definitely expect from the date

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after the contract is signed

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a six-month process to get from the

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beginning to the end

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a lot of people require more it could be

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nine months there's things that can get

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in the way of this like materials

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reference standards long lead times

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should be considered api

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so you should think very carefully about

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that now if you're starting now you

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might be sitting there thinking oh my

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god i have to have my production done in

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four months so timing is going to be

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much more critical for you than um some

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of the other aspects that we've

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mentioned or at least as critical as

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some of the other aspects that we've

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mentioned so starting early is really

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important in this process

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and we als and this is often the group

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that's thought about last so

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now how can you make it once you find

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that perfect match you're going to be

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with the cmo for a while um it could be

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two years it could be ten so please uh

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consider that how can you make it a

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smooth transition to the cmo

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what can you do

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so

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in real estate they talk about location

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location location

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and the cmo industry we talk about

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communication communication

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communication so in any good

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relationship communication is key

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and

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in the

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dp process that i've just outlined here

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it's important to understand that you

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might have many members of your team

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talking to many members of the other

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team

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so setting up a successful communication

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process is important the project manager

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really should be the

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person that holds all communication or

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at least copies of communication so and

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putting in writing especially if it's

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important like your

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specifications which you own as the drug

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sponsor is really critical to ensuring

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that you have successful transfer

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okay let's go over some things that you

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should do

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so before you sign up for that contract

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you want to review

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the technical

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quality and timing aspects and make sure

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all of your questions are addressed

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okay

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and the contract itself could be a

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longer process as well depending on the

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legal ease of the organization that

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you're dealing with

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you want to ask as many questions as

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possible and you want to feel

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comfortable with all of those questions

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now you know some of the questions to

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ask too so during stage one the planning

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and prep

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you want to make sure that your

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formulation is robust

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so and your methods so if you have

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development that needs to be done

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and you want the cmo to do that you need

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to communicate that to them so they

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don't put it into their planning process

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and run into roadblocks which further

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delays you in the future

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you want to make sure that you provide

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thorough details on how you formulate

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this right up front before before it's

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even quoted this is how it's formulated

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if you're going from a 50 mil

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beaker to a two liter process or a 1

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liter to 100 liter it's a huge step and

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you're going to require some

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formulation transfer

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and some studies to be able to

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transition that up and you may do that

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internally or you may do that at the cmo

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again something you need to convey to

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them

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make sure that the specifications can be

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met

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don't transfer specifications to the cmo

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or ask the cmo what the specifications

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for your product should be because they

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don't know

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but make sure that you know that they

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can be met

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and with confidence

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and give a quick thorough review of all

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the quality documents you own them as

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much as the cmo does the cmo owns them

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you own them they're part of your

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process going forward they will be

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inspected by regulators it is important

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that you give them enough time for

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review

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and avoid last-minute changes

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this is the death of all um

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products in my opinion when

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clients or cmos come in and say oh we

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need to make this change the minute

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before it starts try and avoid that

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now on the execution stage what can you

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do you can get the batch record approved

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i say a few days i would like a few

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weeks

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prior to the fill date to prevent

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deviations if people can

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prepare properly you're going to get

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less deviations on the actual run

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have the engineers in the formulation

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ensure that they're properly training

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the manufacturing group be part of that

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process

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you

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you are the owner of this production

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they you need to make sure that the

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information is being conveyed not only

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in written form but also in verbal form

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to the people that are going to be

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handling your production

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and then be available finally

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if your fill goes into midnight 1am in

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the morning

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you're gonna have to stay up late to be

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part of that in these times of covid uh

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they should have remote um viewing

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available to you and you should be

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available if they need to get in touch

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with you in case there's an issue this

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is

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critically important

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all right so in review

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finding the right cmo the perfect fit

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we went over the timing and the

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expectations and what you could do to

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ensure that the transfer once you do

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find that perfect fit goes seamlessly

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because we don't want to be in a

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situation where like most of us require

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contractors and we really don't like

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them after

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they get our job done so we want to like

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our cmo at the end and this is what we

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can all do to work better together

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now i would like to

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switch it back over to sharp and they

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can talk to you about what you do after

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you get your drug product produced and

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it goes to them

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thank you very much andrea for

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the

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good overview and how you manage the the

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production and filling part

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um i hope the transition to my

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presentation or back to my presentation

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went well

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yep we can see that

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okay perfect

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as andrea mentioned um i think uh

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element or the one of the most critical

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element is communication um and managing

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expectations and understanding um the

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situation the cmo but also the client is

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in

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so

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i think asking questions is a very

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important part to make sure that you get

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a good understanding about the

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requirements capabilities

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and you see here a couple of examples

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that we typically

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receive there of course many many more

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and i will not go through the details

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here but um

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some of the i think important questions

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are

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um is of course inspection about

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regulatory agencies um how flexible are

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you and can you meet our timelines and

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demands and i always like this question

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because to me it always comes back um

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with another question is okay we need to

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have information that are usually not

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available then and so it's really about

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communicating and being open

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um andrea mentioned the part um having

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people in the plant um not face to face

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maybe at the moment to observe

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manufacturing but have you set up

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virtual capacity or capabilities um what

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kind of technologies do you have to

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support the primary secondary packaging

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the labeling

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can you do this under different

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temperature conditions for example

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audit and quality

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specific questions obviously and in the

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times of the pandemic also do you have

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the

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capabilities to perform a virtual audits

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how can we read your documents do you

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have a virtual side tour um these are

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all questions that we receive

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and um

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over the last couple of months of course

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also

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how do you

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or how are you prepared to mitigate the

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brexit impact

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do you have

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distribution or packaging capacities

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within the eu

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and on the other side of course

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what are actions in place to mitigate

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the impact of covet 19 so that your

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packaging run but also the distribution

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of the material to the clinic or to the

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patient is not in danger

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on the other side

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the cmo might have a lot of questions as

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well

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and

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we are always

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asked by our colleagues in project

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management and productionists at a very

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early stage

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to request an sds to classify the

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material to see if we can handle it and

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on the other side we know that this kind

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of information is not always available

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what kind of blinding strategy do you

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have is it an open label study or is it

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a blinded maybe even double-blinded

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study

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timelines again yeah when is your first

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patient in date is always a very good

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indicator and

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sometimes it is or might even be a

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challenge when you look at the first

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patient in date and then you see it's

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only four weeks away and you have to

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perform a full packaging distribution

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exercise

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volumes how many campaigns do you run

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what kind of services are overall

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required are there any special

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requirements um

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not necessarily child resistant senior

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friendly but

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maybe in the post covert world we will

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see more adherence packaging which will

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add complexity

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we'll talk about labeling

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sometimes it looks like a simple sticker

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but there are many uh requirements um

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related to materials and of course to

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the text

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that you put on the label

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when we talk about biologics um the

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temperature is a very critical element

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usually we have temperature

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requirements around two to eight but

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they can always be also be in the

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negative environment

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um so identifying

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the right solution for uh packaging

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needs to be under certain conditions in

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case you have limited stability data

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and what kind of solution and also

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service partner you use for the

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distribution are critical here

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and then which countries are

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included in your study

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very important because it will have a

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huge impact on the timeline not

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necessarily from the shipping but

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obtaining

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required documents

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is a very critical point and

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understanding really how long does it

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take

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and um

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i hope you don't have too many people

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from clinical operations but i've seen

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it in the past very often and oh yeah we

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add another country we can start

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distribution tomorrow this is usually

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not how it works and there is a lot of

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preparation you might want to look into

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mapping out the distribution

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channel and again you need to obtain

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import licenses permits and that might

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in some cases take a couple of weeks

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something that is important to look at

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at an early stage is

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do you require for your study an irt

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system an interactive response

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technology to manage the allocation of

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drug to the patient do you

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require randomization

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um

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do you already have a clear idea do you

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have experience in the iit field

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um or do you have some groups dedicated

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groups that are working with this

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on this topic

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um i've seen that very often companies

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starting here again and again

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because people are moving that have

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maybe previously worked with iot systems

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moved into your roles or to new

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companies so

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talk to your vendor

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ask them for their

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support

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and for their

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advice they usually have a lot of

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experience

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and

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looking to a timeline setting up an iot

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system depending on the complexity of

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the study can easily take six to eight

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weeks so if you don't want to be under

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extreme pressure you might

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want to add another two to four weeks

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just to be on the safe side if you have

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a less complex study maybe you don't

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need to full-blown irt but you still

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want to have full visibility on your

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inventory that you have at the sides so

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an inventory management system might be

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a less complex solution but it still can

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help you to

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initiate supplies to to look at

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your overall drug

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stock

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and to initiate

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shipments another topic that um

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very often before

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you um

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look into executing the the filling and

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packaging

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um

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asks tasks you're looking at is the

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whole area of comparator sourcing

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um with biologics comparative sourcing

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has reached a new uh financial dimension

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and it can have a huge and significant

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impact on your study budget

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looking into comparators

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it is important to to understand of

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course what kind of material you're

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looking for but also what you are

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willing to share because

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depending from where you source or what

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kind of comparative product you are

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looking at if you do not disclose the

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study material details it will be

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difficult or more challenging to obtain

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the required drug and specific documents

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to support for example the disability

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data

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in which regions do you need to require

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the supplies to be again which countries

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are involved

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a very important point when we talk

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about comparator sourcing when we talk

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about biles

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especially pre-filled syringes is around

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the whole

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blinding topic

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are you able to get the exact material

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what is your blinding strategy

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um so there are a lot of things and

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if you

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involve your partner at an early stage

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we can say that based on experience uh

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if we have the time to look into the

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market we can look like in the example

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that you see here here at the button we

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can research if a certain drug is

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available in a different market we can

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provide information around it and this

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can lead to a significant price

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decrease which given the the

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drug price of some of the biological

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products can again have a significant

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savings impact on your budget

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so when we receive the material from bsm

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usually

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our next step

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is um the secondary packaging

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we would of course then execute but

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before you execute there are so many

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other things that you need to to look at

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you need to look at how to best protect

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protect your product what are the

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requirements do you need not just shock

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protection but maybe also protection

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from

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light from humidity maybe even during

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the the packaging project

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uh what kind of components need to be

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included in

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a drug kit is it the truck itself are

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there any other

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um ancillary supplies for example any

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kind of documentation

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um

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something that i learned in the past and

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it was confirmed by colleagues when

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talking about this and preparing the

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presentation is

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very often people design kits

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without

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thinking about the next step

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and i have seen

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kids where

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in the initial discussion um they were

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supposed to be

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10 to 20 centimeter long

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um so a specific packaging solution for

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cold chain distribution was offered but

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when the actual

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kids arrived at the distribution company

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the kids were much larger

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and they had to use instead of a 24

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liter coal chain shipper a 96 liter for

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one kit and this had a significant price

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where

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the

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costs went up for one shipment from

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approximately five to six hundred

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dollars to over three thousand

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so be very careful when you

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design

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your kids and also think about the

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patient that

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he has to handle she has to handle it

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and you don't want to make it too

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difficult

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um

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any specific materials that are required

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are there regulatory

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implications that you need to consider

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any other

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secondary packaging solution that you

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you need to think of it's a very very

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complex topic and the the next part is

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labeling and

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very often people say oh yeah we need to

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put the sticker

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on the drug just to comply with the

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regulatory requirements

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but um the term labeling strategy is not

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coming from

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from nowhere there is a lot of thoughts

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behind um what kind of material do you

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need to have a specific clue especially

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when you talk about

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temperature or cold chain conditions

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especially when you go into

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negative temperature conditions

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if you have a plastic container you need

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to look

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is there potential risk that the glue

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might mitigate through the material um

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which is for example something when you

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look at eye drops this can be very um

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dangerous

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um

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then something that has a sick or can

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have a significant impact on the

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timeline

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is the whole topic about translation and

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regulatory approval i have seen here

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turnaround times from a couple of weeks

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but also to more than a year so having a

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clear approach

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and knowing

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what you need to have on the label is

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really critical

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i will move a little bit faster because

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some of the time

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if you are going into different regions

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for example the eu

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um you are facing the topic of the

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qualified person

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and

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as very often the question okay is this

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something i need

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larger companies might have set up this

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process but if you're working for a

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smaller um company or virtual company

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and you're running your first trial

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you might ask yourself what is a

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qualified person what is he actually

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doing and this is a specific role that

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is existing within the eu

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that guarantees that any material that

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is coming into the eu

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has been processed according cgmp

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or eu gmp guidelines

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and also if a manufacturing step is

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performed um

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in the eu that the material is then

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released by the qp before it is shipped

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to the site

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um

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overall qps are

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i think

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a benefit as they help to improve

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quality

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but what is important to understand here

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that before a qp could import or release

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material they might actually ask for a

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supply chain audit

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and this what does it mean

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usually you look into the last step of

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the supply chain from a manufacturing or

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packaging perspective before the

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material came into the eu you might need

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to look into labs that um

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performed an analysis

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of the material that that is used in the

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pla in the trial

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um and

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this is something that can take a lot of

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time it's not just the availability of

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the qp but you need to agree on an audit

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appointment so the

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potential manufacturing side outside of

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the eu the lab they need to be available

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and then it needs to be as an audit

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report that needs to be written

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um you need to give time to provide an

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audit response so there are a lot of

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impacts from a timing perspective

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storage and distribution

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this is

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a really complex topic

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they can

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change of course from

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a country by country perspective

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but when we talk about distribution is

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of course do you need the depot where

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and how many um the how many has an

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impact on how many um stock do you need

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because every depot will increase also

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your overage

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so usually going with the smaller number

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of depots unless there is a regulatory

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requirement

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such as in brazil for example

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or argentina where it makes sense to

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have a depot you can try to to limit the

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number of depots to central ones and

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then to distribute globally um we

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mentioned earlier the topic of an import

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license what kind of packaging

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monitoring solution to choose

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um code chain requirements um a lot of

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different things but i've seen also very

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often that the question is asked do you

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need to return a destruction service and

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um the answer is no and at the later

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stage in the study the

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request is coming oh the sites cannot

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handle this can you please also offer

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return and destruction service and at a

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later stage this can cause some problems

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of

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re-exporting drugs

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from a certain country so it's always

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good to include this as an early stage

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in the discussion

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so we see that there is a lot of complex

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supply chain and

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going briefly over this topic that can

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easily fill an entire day of discussion

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we hope that moving forward you can

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simplify it

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recommendations

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really from our side is

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understanding each other's expectations

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don't just assume something ask

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questions share information don't think

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that the other party already knows about

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it

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communicate early and often and get your

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partner involved

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you can just benefit from their

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experience

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they can help with study plan and design

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they can share their experience and help

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you to smooth the road and to have a

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soft ride while you develop your

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clinical supply chain

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and with that i

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um

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hand it over back to shamaya for the

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question and answer session

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fantastic thank you sasha and andrew for

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that very interesting and detailed

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presentation so that does bring us to

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our q a portion audience members so you

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can still send in questions to sasha and

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andrew right now using that chat box

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we did receive some questions already so

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i'll start off with the first question

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and that question is

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does a client have to determine material

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materials to be used so stoppers vials

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caps etc or will the cmo make

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recommendations

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so that question would be for me um so

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both are correct so the client does need

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to ultimately choose however the cmo

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does often make recommendations for what

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they currently have in stock or they've

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used in the past for the change parts so

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eliminating that lead time

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great thank you andrea and our next

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question is

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can i use a contract lab for release

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testing instead of the cmos laboratory

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okay um yes that is a yes some cmos have

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a restrictions on that so you should

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check uh with your cmo but that

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definitely can be done and has been done

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fantastic and another question from an

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audience member and that question is can

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berkshire sterile manufacturing prefer

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unique containers or bags

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again that would be a yes

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we currently do syringes vials and

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cartridges we've done some specialty

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containers as well

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and we have done some bag filling too

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all right interesting and we have

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another interesting question from an

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audience member and that question is how

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quickly can a new client get on a cmo's

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fill schedule

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so most cmos book out six to nine months

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so that's what you should be prepared to

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listen to or hear but what i recommend

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is to contract with them and get on

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their wait list so if there's a

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cancellation and many times there are

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especially if uh it's a clinical phase

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cmo

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you can slip into that spot that becomes

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available

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fantastic and

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our

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another question from an audience number

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that question is does bsm allow clients

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to watch their formulation and fill

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or has this changed has this changed as

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a result of

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covid19 yeah so uh berkshire sterile has

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cameras set up in all of the clean rooms

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so you can watch remotely and we've

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expanded that technology since covet 19.

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and we encourage and almost insist that

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clients be a part of that process

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okay great another question from an

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audience member and that question is do

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you provide formulation free freeze

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dryers

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so we do have lyophilization

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capabilities here at berkshire sterile

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we're um doing an expansion which will

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expand that so currently we offer

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clinical

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and in 2022 beginning of 2022 we'll have

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commercial

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capacity for that in terms of about 30

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000 10r files

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great thank you andrea another question

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from an audience member

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do you do in-house sterility testing

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so we currently outsource for berkshire

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sterile we currently outsource uh to sgs

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however we will be bringing that

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in-house next year with a sterility

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isolator from fedegari

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great thank you andrew we're getting

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lots of interesting questions just

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making sure that i'm getting to all of

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them but it seems like that's all we

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have for today so thank you very much

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for all those answers andrea and um

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everyone for sending in those questions

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as well we reached the end of the q a

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portion of this webinar if you couldn't

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attend to your questions

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the team at sharp clinical and berkshire

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may follow up with you after this

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presentation as well so if you have

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further

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questions or comments you can direct

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them to the contact information showing

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on your screens right now so go ahead

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quickly drop them down

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i just wanted to thank everyone again

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for participating in today's webinar and

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you will be receiving a follow-up email

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from xbox with access to the recorded

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archive for this event a server window

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will be popping up on your screen your

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participation is appreciated as it will

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help us improve our future webinars now

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i'm about to send you a link in your

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chat box you'll be able to view the

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recording of this event at that link and

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also share the link with your colleagues

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when they register for the recording as

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well now please join us in thanking

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sasha sonenberg and andrea wagner for

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that fantastic presentation on behalf of

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the team at x talks we thank you for

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joining us take care bye for now

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you

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