Palworld Controversy Explained By Riot Director | Asmongold Reacts

Summary

The video discusses game development, noting how developers often take inspiration from popular games to create 'clones' with some changes. It argues this is fine if new work is done, but questionable if just 'reskinned'. It speculates Palworld may have reused some assets from other games, but applauds innovations made on top. It warns AI may enable more asset reuse, rewarding low effort games unless players demand originality. Overall it says Palworld is a good game despite origins, but copying could become an unhealthy trend.

Takeaways

• 😊 It's okay for games to be inspired by or even copy other successful games, as long as they put in the work to make something new and fun.
• 😮 There were tons of Street Fighter 2 clone games in the 90s, but some like Mortal Kombat innovated in their own way and became popular.
• 🤔 Game developers often reuse engines, assets, mechanics etc across games to speed up development, which is generally a good thing.
• 😠 'Reskinning' games by barely changing anything and re-releasing is common but low effort and gross.
• 😲 Pal World appears very similar to Craftopia in parts - same vista, layout, sounds etc - suggesting heavy inspiration/copying.
• ⏩ If players reward low-effort copying, it may become the norm and disincentivize real innovation in games.
• 🙂 But Pal World adds a lot of new, fun mechanics on top of any copying, so the end product is quite good.
• 😕 The video maker worries rewarding copying will mean fewer interesting/innovative games in future.
• 🤨 There's no clear evidence presented that Pal World copies specific game systems from Pokemon.
• 😌 Customers/players decide what succeeds, so inevitably similar games emerge in popular genres.

Q & A

What is Mort's perspective on game cloning and being inspired by other games?

Mort says being inspired by other games and making your own spin on existing ideas is totally fine and normal in the industry, as long as you put in the work to actually develop it rather than just reskinning. He sees innovation happening when developers iterate on and improve ideas from other games.

How does Mort view Palworld's similarities to other games like Craftopia and Breath of the Wild?

Mort speculates that Palworld likely reused assets and systems from Craftopia as a shortcut, which he sees as questionable. However, he still thinks Palworld is a good, fun game with novel mechanics like using creatures as weapons.

What is the potential concern with games heavily reusing content from other games?

The concern is that if low-effort copying/pasting becomes the norm for financial gain, developers won't be incentivized to create truly original, innovative games, resulting in less creativity in the industry long-term.

What are some examples of game mechanics or systems that have been widely adopted across many games?

A few examples are double jump, lock-on targeting from Zelda, loadout systems, revival/respawn mechanics, elemental damage types, posture bars, etc. These popular systems spread across genres once gamers respond positively to them in certain titles.

When is it okay to reuse mechanics or assets from a previous game?

It's generally fine to reuse mechanics and assets when you're building a sequel or a game in the same series, as it allows developers to focus innovation elsewhere and release games faster. For example, reusing the canoe animation from the last God of War.

What is Mort's perspective on using AI tools in game development?

Mort sees AI as just another tool that can be used properly and improperly. The ethics come down to whether you're just copying others' work versus using AI assistance to responsibly innovate on top of inspiration.

What was an example genre of quick reskin games for financial gain that Mort pointed out?

On mobile, Mort showed how developers can easily reskin a failed game and republish it repeatedly with minor changes until it sticks with players, allowing them to capitalize on trends with minimal effort.

What is the bare minimum amount of work Mort thinks developers should put in when being inspired by another game?

At minimum, Mort believes developers should build core components like engine, art, design, systems themselves even if inspired by existing games, rather than copy-pasting vast amounts of established work.

What was an example Mort gave of a heavily inspired game still innovating in its own way?

Mortal Kombat was clearly inspired by Street Fighter but innovated with features like digitized sprites, blood/gore, and new finishing moves to make its own impact.

What does Mort say is the most important factor for players in an inspired or cloned game?

The end gameplay experience. If an inspired or cloned game is highly polished, fun, and quality for players, Mort says that's what really matters in consumers' eyes.

Outlines

00:00

😊 Introduction

The speaker introduces himself as Mort, a game designer with 19 years of experience. He wants to provide context on AI and Palworld amid misinformation online.

05:00

😃 Game development process and clones

The speaker explains the game development process using an example of Street Fighter 2. He notes that clones and derivatives are common as developers chase profits. As long as new games add innovation, it's okay.

10:00

🤔 Reusing engines and assets

The speaker argues that reusing engines and assets across games is smart game development, allowing developers to focus innovation elsewhere. He provides examples like Majora's Mask reusing Ocarina of Time's engine.

15:03

😕 Reskins and low effort copying

The speaker notes some developers just reskin games repeatedly with minimal changes, trying to profit off another's success. He shows Fiverr services offering cheap reskins.

20:03

😟 Palworld's relationship to Craftopia

The speaker speculates Palworld reused significant parts of Craftopia like art assets and engine. He argues this undermines incentives to innovate.

25:04

😊 It's complicated

The speaker acknowledges it's complex - Palworld is a good game despite possibly reusing Craftopia's assets. AI will exacerbate copying. Customers just want good games.

30:06

🤔 More examples of reuse

The speaker provides more examples of reused assets and sounds between Palworld and other games. He reiterates developers should do the work themselves.

Keywords

💡Inspiration

The video discusses how games often take inspiration from previous popular games. For example, Street Fighter 2 inspired many fighting game clones in the 90s. As long as new games add their own innovations, being inspired by a successful game is not necessarily a bad thing.

💡Innovation

While being inspired by other games is common, truly innovative games push the genre forward in meaningful ways. For example, Mortal Kombat innovated with fatalities and motion capture technology.

💡Shortcuts

Game developers reuse assets and systems from previous games as a shortcut to build new games faster. For example, the Legend of Zelda team reused the Ocarina of Time engine for Majora's Mask.

💡Reskins

In the mobile game industry, developers commonly reskin unsuccessful games by keeping the core systems the same but changing the visual theme. This video is critical of lazy reskins that are copied with minimal new work.

💡AI

The video speculates that AI tools may enable more game copying in the future by making it easier to replicate game assets and designs.

💡Incentives

If copying games becomes more rewarding than innovating, it could reduce incentives for developers to create truly new and innovative game designs in the future.

💡Quality

Ultimately, the video argues that players care most about game quality and fun. So if a copied game is still great, the copying may not matter to consumers.

💡Effort

The video emphasizes that developers should still put in genuine design effort even when being inspired by existing games. Copying without effort is seen as unethical.

💡Precedent

If pal world's success leads to more AI-assisted game copying, it could set a dangerous precedent for the industry's creativity.

💡Ethics

There is an ethical question around properly compensating and crediting game developers for copied or reused ideas and assets.

Highlights

Making a video game involves many components like levels, characters, behaviors, enemies, stages, systems, equipment, items etc.

Seeing a good idea leads others to make their own spin on it with small differences. This innovation through imitation is common in games.

As long as you put in the work to build your own game inspired by others, it's okay. The end quality is what matters most.

Mortal Kombat was clearly inspired by Street Fighter but added its own hook like fatalities. This innovation moved the genre forward.

Taking shortcuts when developing sequels by reusing engines, some designs etc. lets developers create more good games faster.

The common mobile game strategy is reskinning the same game with minor changes until it gets some downloads and money.

The previous game from Palworld's developer Copia seems nearly identical to areas of Craftopia, suggesting heavy reuse.

If Palworld's success causes more games to just reuse engines and art without much new work, it could reduce innovation.

AI is a tool that can be used poorly or well. The key is not taking someone else's work without proper rewards or incentives.

League of Legends was clearly inspired by Dota but added enough new elements that it moved the genre forward in a meaningful way.

Once a game system is executed better than others, it's good to see it copied widely until something better comes along.

It's disappointing when a game is very popular and you think it shouldn't be, setting a bad precedent for the industry.

There's an inevitability to games copying each other's best ideas and systems. Hard to fight against but concerning if overdone.

Fine to copy game systems that work well, but copying entire engine and art assets feels ethically questionable.

As a player, often want sequels to keep proven formulas without reinventing basics. But too much replication reduces innovation.

Transcripts

talk about P so in case this goes viral

or whatever and people see this video oh

it's me that's for me if you don't know

who I am I'm Mort I'm a game designer

I've been a game designer for 19 years

11 and a half at Nintendo seven and 19

years holy [ __ ] half at Riot so I've

been doing this a while okay and I've

seen a lot of discourse online about pal

world and like what it means and people

being like Oh my God Ai and whatever and

freaking out it's been it's been pretty

bad and what's really really

disappointing is just how much

misinformation is out there um I'm also

I I don't know I'm personally tired of

the new cycle that is I saw this

trending tweet let me go make a YouTube

video about

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it I'm not

sorry even though the trending tweet

came from somebody who has no idea what

they're talking talking about and then

that gets perpetuated and it's just

really dis he does bring up a good point

if he's talking about spreading

misinformation because he's exactly

right and that's the way that

misinformation spreads is that somebody

takes a rumor somebody reports a rumor

somebody makes a video about the

reporting of a rumor and then somebody

else makes a report about the video and

then it's taken as a fact it's like

literally the game of

telephone and so I wanted to take a

second to talk about pal world what it

for the game industry and its success

and things like that and you know maybe

some ways you might consider feeling at

least try I try so hard to start off

with one of the things you have to do is

you know those who don't study history

are doomed to repeat it and I know I'm

old I'm 40 I'm gray-haired whatever but

a lot of people maybe are younger and

maybe this is their their first dive

into it

so let's talk about making a video game

right like let's say it's the year I

don't know

1991 oh

and you're going to make a video game

Super Mario do is you're going to pick

like whether that be like a console or

whatever and you're going to you're

going to pick your engine here and you

know we're going to call it

engine engine look at that big old text

and I'm going to make it bigger here

great that's not big enough great you

got your engine you got you know you're

going to make some characters sure some

behavior and then you're going to make

some levels

and stuff like that you're like a game

is a bunch of different parts right it's

like levels characters Behavior enemies

stages systems you've got a bunch of

parts into game design uh maybe

equipment maybe items it could be a

bunch of various a stack of pizza boxes

all of these different parts right and

so we're just going to oversimplify it

down to all of these different parts

here it's a lot of pizza might be like

there's so many of them I think the only

person who could carry all of these at

the same time would be Donald

drum you know level art it might be uh

level

design and I'm oversimplifying here but

there's going to be a bunch of different

parts um

characters uh system design actually

let's do uh before we do system design

let's say

uh

behaviors you know those are the bugs um

enemy AI blah blah blah

well let's do some systems design AI

wait guys he just said AI what the [ __ ]

and then maybe we do some like

progression and some menus and things

like that there you go you got a video

game you you worked on all these right

and all of these are done by different

people back in the day maybe a team of

like eight or 10 could put it all

together nowadays if you want to go

something big like I don't know God of

War Ragnarok it gets a lot nuttier right

and so all of these might have different

employ employees working on different

parts and things like that now again

let's say it's uh

1991 and uh you've made a cool new game

for the Super Nintendo called Street

Fighter 2 you did it you made Street

Fighter 2 You released the game to the

world people are haduken in takes the

World by storm good job you made a video

game that's great right yeah it's great

well the challenge here is like cool

you've made a video game what happens

next well your game you micr happens

immediately everyone goes I want some of

that money I'm gonna do that too yeah

and they make another fighting game and

for those of you that weren't around in

like the 1990s what happened was you

ended up with stuff like this and this

is just an article titled uh 1590s

Street Fighter 2 ripoffs yes 15 and

there were more than 15 right we got

some body blows and power mov and

fighting spirit

clearly clearly inspired by fighting

games and some of you might be thinking

well that's that's terrible it's

actually not it's not no yeah that's

just that's what happens like if

somebody has a good idea everybody else

tries to like take it and like switch it

up right do a little bit different with

it like you go you look at vampire

survivors this [ __ ] comes out and then

Soul Stone survivors comes out then

after that you get something like Hollow

cure then you have Halls of Torment then

you have death must die and there's like

20 other ones that I don't even know

about so like that's just the way it is

like people see an idea and they say oh

this is a cool idea well what if I went

and I did it a little bit

different it's okay right being inspired

by another game is totally fine as long

as and this is the important part when

you're making your own game called Power

Spirit you have to do all this work

still you got to pick your engine do

your level art do your level design do

your characters you might go my

character's name is uh Bayou and and Jen

and they shoot Badin you know if you're

not might not be the most imaginative

but you still had to kind of do the work

yourself you got to do a little bit and

the reason that's okay is because

Innovation can happen if you're like

willing to do it right because well

Innovation happens all the time like

with every one of these games like I

really like for example the system and

death must

die I like it way more than Halls of

torment and like but Halls of Torment

had to had to walk so death Must Die

runs that's just how it is like there is

innovation that happens all the time

like World of Warcraft couldn't exist

without EverQuest and I bet EverQuest

probably couldn't exist without ultim

online that's that that's a good

thing

something that does matter is all that

matters is the end game is good if the

end game is good that's that is what

consumers care about

right just don't say that on Twitter

okay just don't do not [ __ ] say that

on Twitter do not [ __ ] oh they don't

like

that and there was one clone from this

era that you know really stood out

Mortal Kombat right like now could you

debate that it had differences but was

clearly inspired by Street Fighter but

they took their own approach they added

their own hook you know fatalities and

killing and stuff like that and it I

used to think that uh motion capture

suits were stupid and I actually learned

that motion capture suits were actually

cheaper and better than having it

animated directly and Mortal Kombat was

the first game that did

it isn't that

nuts was great

it was great right Mortal Kombat is a

fun game Inspire how it was good should

we be mad that Mortal Kombat copied

Street Fighter obviously not obviously

not right like that's a good thing

totally fine uh you know I remember

whenever they came up with that Digimon

[ __ ] I said wait though hold up they can

just do

that they can just switch it up like

that on them and it's just it is what it

is what

know there's this game called League of

Legends that was inspired totally

different than doets like I mean bro had

nothing to do with DOTA at

all by you know DOTA so which had

nothing to do with Warcraft 3 I mean

come on it's completely different

games happens right this is happening

through all the time in the industry all

the time is that someone releases a game

other people are like that game was

popular I want the money and they make

their own Spin and what matters is if

you make this happens with like

streaming as well like as soon as one

person streams the game and it pops off

other people start streaming it too like

for example whenever I first started

streaming Monster Hunter other people

started stream monster on because my

views went up and they said I want a bit

of that same thing happened with Final

Fantasy it's like stream

metas that's just how it is hot tubs

Among Us po world like this happens

everywhere

quality version players will enjoy it

right what matters is you did the work

and you built the game yep now second

part here is building a game is a lot

and getting mad about that is

insecurity why would I get mad about

people that steal my golden eggs

whenever I'm the

goose that's how I see

it

work it's it's continued to be a lot of

work it's a lot of work should you have

to do this every time you make a new

game because man imagine like you just

shipped God of War you've got all this

stuff and now you have to start

over that that sounds terrible there are

times where you can take shortcuts and

shortcuts are good yeah I remember

people got in their feelings about the

fact that I don't know if he's going to

show this but the God of War animation

where Kratos and his son get inside a

canoe was the same in the last game as

it was in the current game and people

said bro how are they this [ __ ] lazy

like these lazy [ __ ] are using the same

animation and I go and I think that and

I'm

like well yeah I mean it was a good one

right cuz he like pushes it and he gets

in it like you think they want they

going to do a whole new one like bro

like like where was that on a priority

list elen ring animations let's talk

about this

game Ocarina of Time right Ocarina of

Time got all those hearts we got to play

it it was good life is good big dubs no

problem now they just finished ocar of

time what do they do do they start over

brand no bro they did Majora's Mask

which was like the same thing except for

it had you on a timer [ __ ] man that

thing stressed me

out I never beat Majora's Mask I never

did instead what they do is they take

that engine they rearrange some pieces

if we go back to our little diagram

maybe we get some new levels you know

some new level wild keep some of the

behaviors maybe some new systems design

a new progression keep the same menu

keep the same engine you know we we

shortcut it a lot of the work and that's

a good thing right Geor MK a better one

though because we get I like this one

Majora's

Mask sweet we get another game wow

that's great great game devs should be

taking these shortcuts right so that

they can make more games to the products

and make really cool games and again as

long as the game is good it doesn't

matter no problem no problem yeah people

only care about reuse [ __ ] whenever the

game

sucks like here here's a mind [ __ ]

okay the Asylum Demon at the beginning

of Dark Souls

1 is the ER tree Sentinel Guardian with

the little uh [ __ ]

Hammer it's the same

thing but he does that little Sparkle

[ __ ] right it's a little bit different

but everything else is the

same he's fatter he is

fatter Elden ring Elden ring is another

great example of this right like El ring

get started From Scratch N no of course

not because they have there's so many

things in elen ring that were just in

Dark

Souls like there tons of

them L of work and learnings from

bloodborne and they had a lot of work

and learnings from Dark Souls right

everything is sort of a level up of

learning things like that it's also why

you often see a lot of game devs and you

see them like they they were um like for

example like at every game they try

something new like with bloodborne they

went and they tried the whole sanity

mechanic did the sanity mechanic

work in my opinion I really think that

it

didn't like I'm GNA be I think that it

was a stupid

mechanic but the rally mechanic was a w

the rally mechanic was [ __ ] awesome

it was so good that P that I was going

to say power world lies of P put that

into their game and in my opinion I

think liip P had a better version of it

than bloodborne

did

make the same games over and over like

the same type is because they have all

their learnings they don't have to start

this process over every single time

right having some of those shortcuts to

help I had this with uh this is also

true with video editing like I had a lot

of plugins that I would use that would

make video editing faster like I could

edit a video like one minute every like

two minutes and the reason why is

because I had all of these presets and

plugins that I could automatically do

like I had remember how I had like the

achievement right above my webcam back

in the day I had that IM I had that

planned out the pixel amount for it the

framing I could click one button and it

would just Port that thing in

instantaneously and I even had it to

where they were stacked on top of each

other and that's why I could do them

quickly and that's that's not being lazy

that's being

smart game development that's a good

thing yeah right imagine trying to be

you know trying into a different space

that's hard right so anything you can do

to speed this up this is a good thing

also for those who don't know I'm the

TFT lead designer and there was this

game called League of Legends and we

took the engine we took a couple

shortcuts because we had some of the

character designs done and things like

that and guess what we made team fight

tactics wow

cool all of this is a good thing right

because all that matters at the end of

the day is players are looking for good

games and you got to make good games

development can be hard and anything you

can do to speed up that process to get

more good games out there usually a good

thing true but uh oh and here's where it

gets a little tricky

uhoh there's been this concept because

again what matters in the industry for a

lot of devs not all but a lot is you go

where the money is right the

second anything is popular guess what

there are going to be clones there are

going to be copies like we talked about

with the street fighter and again as

long as you're making your own totally

fine I get it there's been a common

strategy called

reskins uh a very common thing is like

someone will especially as things have

gotten a little easier to develop with

engines where you release a game say on

mobile like maybe have a a collector on

mobile God bro it's going to be like

this like it's Idan instead of

idin and the Warg glazes of azoth are

like

swords bro I've seen so many of these

[ __ ] games bro like I I see this and

I'm like oh my God another one well you

release it it doesn't do well you take

it you keep all the same stuff the

progression the enemy AI the the

behaviors the menus the engine the level

art and like maybe you change a

character and yeah you just keep

repackaging the same mobile swop over

and over and over until idiots buy

it and that's it and then you release it

again and you see if that does well and

you do this over and over and over in

the mobile space it's very common yeah

it's funny to see if you can be the one

to get players eyes and get that money

right because again it circumvents 90

everybody want to be ra Shadow Legends

to do that and it's a very common thing

how common is it extremely well if you

go to Fiverr I could pay

50 well that's

good yeah speaking of mobile development

let's go over to Fiverr oh [ __ ] here we

go5 for somebody to reskin a game for me

wow I will resan your game I will resan

and develop Unity games it's a little

gross if that's all the effort you're

willing to put in yeah but at the end of

the day what look look look bro real

quick reskin games I will reskin games

and publish ad mob earning Android games

on Google Play Store monetize your game

with

ads oh God and it's one of the it's got

he's got five

stars hey what does matter is the end

product right and so you're probably not

going to get a high quality end product

with a $55

reskin but there are

shortcuts now this is kind of a quick

history lesson so you're might be going

what what does all of this have to do

with po world I can guess okay now

everything from this you don't need to

interent Pals because you have Pokemon

pal spheres Poke

Balls that's

easy going on

is my speculation okay as a game

developer as someone who's been doing

this for a while I'm just going off what

I see and what I understand and how

games are made and I'm going to show you

something pal world's previous game

copia yeah and my understanding is that

this is built like a lot of the things

from craftopia guess what came there in

I know about you guys but this is the

start of craftopia and I'm going to make

this big for

you and this is how the game starts

uh-huh you walk up these stairs oh it's

like Elden

ring some long stairs no big deal this a

bit of a when you reach the top of the

stairs and there is elen

ring okay

what no it's not breath of wild it's

elen ring because remember because elen

ring had like that

tree yeah I know bro like CU remember

like the tree like any tree you have in

a game that's an Elden ring happens

it might have been new world you look at

a Vista yeah new world did this too huh

the title appears I don't know about

Zelda but like yeah it's new world

huh that's

interesting that's crazy uh it's pretty

similar and then oh look there's a

there's a tent over there cool now the

reason I bring this

up is because oh gen again if we go back

and you're doing all the work yourself

that makes sense and if I said hey Mort

go make a game and copy breath of the

wild but you're doing it from scratch to

get that exact same Vista that exact

same

layout that's actually pretty hard to do

from

scratch but if you have mihoyo was able

to do

it so it couldn't be that hard

right the

source and your res skinning it's pretty

damn easy and what I'll say is that

looked pretty damn easy

so mhm that's a little gross you know

and so the fact that they can basically

go hey thank you you know Nintendo or

whoever for this yeah this is mine now

and I'm going to make some stuff on top

of it that's a little weird that's a

little weird but here's the important

thing what I will say is even if they

did that right let's say I'm right for a

second and they're like yoink this is

mine now the stuff they did on top of it

is really good it's really really good

right a game where you can run around

and pick up a Firefox and shoot it as a

flamethrower that's cool it's fun the

fact that you can take your pals and

like chop them up and capture humans and

pokeballs it's fun power world is a good

game the end result is a great game it

is it's good so if anyone's like oh it's

power world bad game no it's really good

all the work they did in this section

here thumbs up just gray a awesome

work all I'm saying is this part

here pretty

sketch and here's the crazy thing is it

I don't know if it's SK like why does it

think it's sketch though because like I

mean it's not like they took the world

from Pokemon for one I mean like they

have a I don't know I mean let him cook

you oh is he going to explain it okay

let's say let's say again maybe I'm

right maybe I'm wrong I don't know but

let's say I'm right what happens is we

see po World success and again yeah game

devs go where the money

is this will become the norm the action

this will become the

norm so this will become hey you know

what the easiest way to make games is

it's don't do all this it's find

something

else take its section and add a little

on top and that's what we're going to

get a lot of M and I know I know there's

a certain bald streamer that like has

been had

some he this G is over four 40 years old

and he's got a perfect [ __ ] hairline

this is [ __ ] man I'm getting I'm

getting getting [ __ ] roasted like

it's just how the [ __ ] does that happen

that's not even

fair it's not [ __ ]

fair and I know I know there's a certain

bald streamer that like has been had

some really strong feelings about it of

course but I also know this bald

streamer really didn't like back in the

day where there was a $25

horse and that was it only

$25 $25 horse kind of snowballed into

some pretty interesting parts of our

industry didn't it it sure did so I'm

just saying be really careful when

you're like this is what I want because

the snowball might not be the best thing

if we're going to reward people of just

going yoink yep I don't know that scares

the crap out of me that scares the crap

out of me so so that's it and the thing

is I know there's one other I feel like

for example like I would say like like

DOTA and League are like like league is

like super derivative from

DOTA like even uh like obviously

valerant has like a lot of bells and

whistles but like it's super derivative

of of

Cs like the op is even the operator in

in valerant like I I I feel like it's

pretty much the same thing like but

valerant obviously is a lot more to it

like I know it's not the same thing but

like you know to an extent it is and so

like I don't think that's really a bad

thing and I I don't necessarily agree

that I think you can just say that the

enemy AI is like Pokemon like which

Pokemon game has the enemy AI the same

the behaviors the level design like and

I haven't played a lot of recent Pokemon

games so you know inform me if I'm wrong

but like I don't think that it's

necessarily one to one is it I mean is

it even 1 to

1.5 and also like to the extent that it

is 1 to

1.5 won't most open world fantasy MMOs

feature a desert Zone a large tree that

they obviously copied from Elden ring

and uh a desert area and a volcano area

and a forest area and like a you know

Plains area I don't know I feel like

that yeah there's going to be biomes

right I feel like I mean

[ __ ] it's it's it's hard

to like how are you going to reinvent

that right component of this which

everyone's going to talk about which is

AI right like using AI to sheet some of

this and the reality is AI is a tool AI

is a tool that can be used

poorly and it can be used well uh you

know there are going to be ways to do it

right ways to do it wrong but really all

of it comes back to if you take some

else's

work that's where it gets a little gross

right because the people who did that

work are incentivized to do that work

for the rewards if there are no longer

rewards you're not really incentivized

to do this anymore and so what you could

end up with is a lot less interesting

games in the future so I think that like

well I I I find it so hard to take an

argument for that seriously like I I

totally respect what he's saying like

I'm not saying that he's like wrong but

like I feel like games have been like

really syy in the last 10 years like I

see a lot of these games and it's like I

don't know this could look like 50 other

games like they already like like this a

lot so I mean I don't know if that's

really compelling enough for me to be

like okay well now I'm against this I

mean [ __ ] that's his point yeah I guess

so right because like again uh people

are always going to have like this

Viewpoint because like the the user I

don't think really sees this like the

user SE SE

like the level art they see

character they see progression they see

the menu they see system design but like

a lot of this stuff is under the hood so

like they're not even really going to

notice it like I'll give you example

right like a lot of the systems like for

example rolling for ey frames I feel

like Dark Souls has done this and like a

lot of games do this now like there have

been certain like features that games

have had and that like now every other

game of that genre kind of uses is that

feature let me think of I let me see if

I can think of some other ones um Auto

auto sort buttons for survival games

valheim didn't have this since then

there's been Innovation almost every

game now has that um lock on from Zelda

well I would say I mean Elden ring lock

on or Dark Souls lock on is like that

double jump double jump is another one

uh that's a big one paragliding is is

extremely

popular

um BRS with doing pings yeah as soon as

Apex created that ping system every

other game tried to copy it and then

after um you know for example like Apex

did the buyback and then uh what was it

uh war zone did the

goolag and then revive yeah cuz like you

used to not be able to revive like I

think even in base fortnite you weren't

able to revive because Apex was the

first one that you could revive in and

then war zone you could also revive

let's see pubg man down yeah knocked

being knocked down

exactly

um let me think of some I want to think

of like maybe one or two other

ones loadouts yeah yeah how many games

have loadouts now like just as a as a

fundamental like concept or mechanic

like loadouts is a concept I feel like a

lot of them have loadouts even wow has

load outs

now so yeah I I think that's just what

happens is like these ideas come into

the game to the world of Gamers and

Gamers like them so then they just get

implemented damage types yeah think

about like how many games use Elemental

damage type mechanics a lot of them do

especially gacha

games

so that's kind of my quick

Spiel uh but yeah as far as evidence

goes there are things like this that

really bother me here noise blast here

for a second but bear with

me oh okay let me rewind

this of course it's gone anyway the

sound when you find a new area is

basically the same sound as you find a

new area here it's like the exact same

sound and again really stuff like that I

never even noticed that but I didn't

play a lot of breath of the wild I

actually I own breath of the wild I

bought it when it was $50 or $60

whatever I have never played the game

I'm a piece of

[ __ ] really scary so

so there you

go games cool inspired by other games

cool but in my opinion you got to do the

work yourself that's the important part

to me and tldr power world's a pretty

good game but I don't know

man so there you go it's hard to say

right and I think also like at the end

of the day you know it's the old

customers always right situation if the

people like the game then you're going

to see other people that are copying

that style so yeah I I mean that's his

opinion yeah no I think this is a pretty

fair video I'll I'll give it a like and

uh you know link it to you guys this is

great and there's a lot of stolen sounds

that are pitched a bit uh really stolen

sounds that are pitched changed a bit

yeah I'm not really sure about that uh

if that's the case then um you know

that's interesting I wonder if Nintendo

knows about that why doesn't do the work

yourself apply to the core game design

um oh it depends on how you're going to

make the game I think that's really what

it is he didn't really prove or disprove

anything I think that he's just talking

about like the concept that if a if if

the if the market rewards people for

copy pasting you're going to have more

people copy

pasting which is like sometimes I

actually like that I don't want some

games to reinvent the wheel like I don't

want to hear like every

um every game that has a dark souls role

where the role doesn't give you frames

feels bad and it's like oh God just go

back to the wheel just can we just have

the wheel again can you just give us the

wheel man and it's like that's the thing

I just want the wheel back and I I I

that's what I think with uh what do you

call it with with ey frames on rolling

and stuff like that and so uh is that

not copy pasting though yeah but I think

it's better yeah like for example like

once there is a system in a game that's

like just better then I want that in

every game until somebody else comes up

with something better than that and then

I'm going to want that posture bars I

think posture bars are a great example

like think about how many games have

started implementing posture bars a

lot there's no uh problem copying a

system that's good yeah just don't copy

paste [ __ ] exactly but this is he's

definitely right that like uh you know

it it's always disappointing especially

I think it especially can be for like a

game developer

whenever a game is like very popular and

you think that that game shouldn't be

popular or you think that that game

being popular creates a precedent that's

unhealthy for the industry I can totally

see what he's saying absolutely I just

like it's it's like there's a certain

inevitability of it and like how do you

fight against that it's almost

impossible to