Trump Supports Post-Conviction Balance of Power

Summary

この動画は、ワシントンD.C.からのニュース番組『バランス・オブ・パワー』の一部です。司会のジョー・マチューとカイリー・ラインツが、ドナルド・トランプ前大統領の裁判や募金活動、イスラエルとハマス間の停戦提案、メキシコの初の女性大統領選出など、多岐にわたる政治・国際問題について議論します。トランプの裁判結果が彼の支持者にどのような影響を与えたか、ハンター・バイデンの裁判がジョー・バイデン大統領に与える影響なども取り上げられます。

Takeaways

• 🔊 トランプ前大統領はニューヨークで有罪判決を受けた後、報復を狙う共和党議員がワシントンに戻ってきたと報道されています。
• 💰 トランプは有罪判決後、選挙運動資金を多く集めており、その内約25%が新たに寄付した捐献者によるものだとされています。
• 📈 資金調達額が急増していることから、トランプの支持層は彼を強く支持していることが伺えます。
• 🎙️ トランプ前大統領はテレビインタビューで、有罪判決を受けても自らの姿勢を変えないと強調しています。
• 🤝 ハンター・バイデンの裁判が行われ、彼は薬物乱用に関する銃購入の罪に問われています。
• 🏛️ 裁判所での証言により、ハンター・バイデンは自分の書籍で薬物への依存を自白しており、その証拠が裁判に用いられているとされています。
• 📉 ハンターの裁判はバイデン大統領の政治的影響力にも影響を与える可能性がありますが、具体的な影響は不透明です。
• 🕊️ イスラエルとハマスの間で停戦協議が進んでいるものの、内閣の意見が分かれる中、ネットヤフ胡はハマスを根絶やしないうちは停戦しないと表明しています。
• 🇲🇽 クローディア・シェインバウムがメキシコ初の女性大統領に選出され、その意義と米メキシコ関係に変わる点が議論されています。
• 📊 政治的報復を巡る共和党の動きも要因となって、今後のアメリカの政治情勢は複雑さを増すと見られています。

Q & A

ドナルド・トランプ前社長がニューヨークで収贏益を上げた背景には何がありますか？

ドナルド・トランプは有罪判決を受けた後もなお、新しい寄付者を含む多くの資金を調達しています。これは彼の支持層がまだ強いことを示唆しており、有罪判決を受けた後も彼の候補資格を支持している新しい寄付者も出てきています。

トランプ前社長の有罪判決が選挙に与える影響はどの程度ですか？

有罪判決は選挙に影響を与える可能性がありますが、現在のところ支持層からの支持は変動が見られません。トランプは依然として強い候補者であり、選挙戦は密着するでしょう。

トランプ前社長が実際に刑務所に収監される可能性はどのくらいありますか？

トランプ前社長が実際に刑務所に収監される可能性は彼の今後の行動によって決まります。彼が責任を認め、有罪判決に従う場合、刑罰は軽減される可能性がありますが、彼が攻撃的な態度を続ける場合、刑罰は厳しくなる可能性があります。

ハマスが停戦提案を受け入れるかどうかはどのように影響を与えますか？

ハマスが停戦提案を受け入れるかどうかは、ミドル東の情勢に大きな影響を与えます。ハマスが提案を受け入れた場合、一時的な停戦が実現する可能性がありますが、拒否する場合、戦闘は継続する可能性があります。

メキシコ初の女性大統領クaudia shione bomの勝利はどのような意味を持っていますか？

クaudia shione bomの勝利はメキシコの政治史上初の女性大統領誕生を意味しており、女性参加の進歩を象徴しています。また、彼女は現在の大統領アンドレス・マンウエル・ロペス・オブラドールの政策に賛同しており、政策の継続性を持続する可能性があります。

トランプ前社長の有罪判決が選挙に与える影響を評価するためにはどのような指標を見れば良いですか？

トランプ前社長の有罪判決が選挙に与える影響を評価するためには、彼の支持率、選挙資金の調達状況、新しい支持者の割合などを見ると良いでしょう。特に、新しい支持者がどの程度出てきているかは重要です。

トランプ前社長が実際に刑務所に収監される場合、それが選挙戦にどのような影響を与える可能性がありますか？

トランプ前社長が実際に刑務所に収監される場合、それは彼の選挙戦に大きな影響を与える可能性があります。しかし、彼の支持層は依然として強いため、選挙戦は密着するでしょう。

ハマスが停戦提案を受け入れた場合、その影響はどのようなものがありますか？

ハマスが停戦提案を受け入れた場合、ミドル東の緊張緩和につながり、一時的な平和が訪れる可能性があります。しかし、根本的な問題が解決されない限り、長期的な平和は確保されない可能性があります。

クaudia shione bomがメキシコの政治にどのような影響を与える可能性がありますか？

クaudia shione bomがメキシコの政治に大きな影響を与える可能性があります。彼女はメキシコ初の女性大統領であり、女性参加の進歩を象徴しています。また、現在の大統領の政策に賛同しており、政策の継続性を持続する可能性があります。

トランプ前社長の有罪判決が選挙戦に与える影響を最小限に抑えるために、彼の陣営はどのような戦略を採用する可能性がありますか？

トランプ前社長の有罪判決が選挙戦に与える影響を最小限に抑えるために、彼の陣営は彼の支持者へのアピールを強化し、選挙戦の焦点を他の問題に移すことが考えられます。また、彼は依然として強い候補者であり、選挙戦は密着するでしょう。

Outlines

00:00

🔥 政治とビジネスの世界からの最新情報

「バランス・オブ・パワー」という番組では、政治からビジネスの世界まで幅広いトピックを取り上げています。ジョー・マチユーとカイリー・ラインズが番組をナビゲートし、ドナルド・トランプ前大統領の資金調達やニューヨークでの共和党議員たちの復帰、イスラエルとハマスの停戦提案、そしてメキシコ初の女性大統領クローディア・シェイン・ボムの選出などが話題となっています。さらに、トランプ前大統領の有罪判決後の影響や、その可能性に対するコメントも取り上げられています。

05:00

トランプ氏の裁判とバイデン氏の息子の裁判の裏側

トランプ前大統領の有罪判決に対する彼の行動と裁判官の対応が分析され、また、バイデン大統領の息子ハンター・バイデンが買った銃と麻薬への依存に関する裁判の難しさについても議論されています。ハンター・バイデン自身の書籍からの証拠が裁判に使用されることから、彼の弁護団は技術的な弁護を試みています。

10:02

💰 トランプ氏の資金調達と政治的余波

トランプ氏の有罪判決後の資金調達状況が分析され、新しい寄付者と寄付額の増加が確認されています。また、その資金がトランプ氏の2024年大統領選出馬への影響についても議論がされています。さらに、共和党上院議員が報復を名目に法案を阻害し、司法指名を凍結する動きもあります。

15:02

🕋 イスラエルとハマスの停戦交渉とアメリカの立場

イスラエルとハマスの停戦交渉におけるアメリカの役割が議論され、特に、ネタニヤフ首相が停戦提案に反対する姿勢を明らかにしたことに関する影響が分析されています。アメリカ政府はハマスが提案を受け入れるか否かを決める重要な瞬間を迎えています。

20:03

🇲🇽 メキシコ初の女性大統領誕生とその意義

クローディア・シェイン・ボムがメキシコ初の女性大統領に選出されたことについて、その勝利の裏側と政策への影響が解説されています。シェイン・ボム氏は現在のメキシコ大統領アンドレス・マヌエル・ロペス・オブラドールの側に立ち、政策の継続性を示唆していますが、独自のアイデンティティを築く可能性も示唆されています。

25:05

📊 トランプ氏の支持率と選挙の動向

トランプ氏の有罪判決後の支持率と選挙の動向が分析され、特に黒人男性やラテン系アメリカ人の支持が強まっていることが指摘されています。また、トランプ氏が販売するスニーカーが黒人層を動かすとされる理由についても議論されています。

30:06

🏛️ トランプ氏の裁判とバイデン氏の対応

トランプ氏の裁判とバイデン氏の対応が比較され、トランプ氏の支持層が選挙を左右する可能性についても議論されています。トランプ氏の裁判が選挙戦に与える影響と、バイデン氏がそれをどう取り扱うかが分析されています。

35:08

🏢 ハンター・バイデンの裁判とその影響

ハンター・バイデンの裁判が開始され、陪審団の選出が行われています。彼は麻薬使用中に銃を購入し、その際に虚偽の申告をした容疑で起訴されています。裁判の結果がバイデン大統領とその家族に与える影響が分析されています。

Keywords

💡ハマス

イスラエルと対立するパレスチナの政治組織です。ビデオでは、ハマスが停戦提案を受け入れるか否かがミドル東情勢の关键と位置づけられています。例えば、イスラエルがハマスを根絶やしにするために停戦を拒否する姿勢を貫いており、これがビデオの重要なテーマの一つです。

💡停戦協定

戦争や衝突を終結させるための合意です。ビデオでは、ハマスが提案された停戦協定に応じるかどうかが焦点になっており、それがミドル東の平和プロセスに影響を与えると示唆されています。

💡ドナルド・トランプ

アメリカの元大統領で、ビデオでは彼の有罪判決とそれに続く資金調達活動が議論されています。トランプが有罪判決を受けた後も、新たな寄付者が増えていることが示され、彼の政治的影響力は依然として強いと言えます。

💡有罪判決

法廷での判決を受けたことを指します。ビデオではトランプが有罪判決を受けたことと、それが選挙や政治にどのような影響を与えるかが重要なトピックとして取り上げられています。

💡資金調達

政治キャンペーンを通じて資金を集めるプロセスです。ビデオではトランプが有罪判決後も資金調達を行っていると報告されており、彼の政治活動に対する支持者の情熱が高まっていることを物語っています。

💡選挙

国民が政治的指導者を選ぶプロセスを指します。ビデオではトランプの有罪判決が選挙にどのような影響を与えるかが議論されており、選挙はビデオの中心となるテーマの一つです。

💡報道

出来事やニュースを伝えるメディアの役割を指します。ビデオでは報道が政治的事件を伝える手段として機能し、視聴者が重要な情報を得るために不可欠な役割を果たしています。

💡ガザ

パレスチナの地域の一つで、イスラエルとの紛争の中心地とされています。ビデオではガザにおける人道支援の必要性とそれに関連する課題が触れられています。

💡人道支援

戦争や災害などの際に、人々に提供される支援を意味します。ビデオではガザ地区に対する人道支援の重要性和、それに関連する課題が議論されています。

💡裁判官

法廷での判断を下す人物を指します。ビデオでは裁判官がトランプの有罪判決を決定するプロセスにおいて重要な役割を果たしたと示唆されており、司法制度の重要な部分です。

💡懲役

犯罪に対する刑罰の一つで、刑務所での服役を意味します。ビデオではトランプが有罪判決を受けた後、裁判官が懲役を命じる可能性があると触れられています。

Highlights

Donald Trump raises more money in New York as Republican lawmakers return to Washington with retribution plans.

ISRO pushes back on the proposal for a cease-fire; Prime Minister Netanyahu refuses to endorse a permanent stop in fighting until Hamas is destroyed.

Claudia Sheinbaum is elected as Mexico's first female president in history.

Former President Trump considers the possibility of being sentenced to jail during an interview on Fox.

Legal experts discuss the likelihood of Trump spending time behind bars, depending on his conduct before sentencing on July 11.

Trump's potential jail sentence could be influenced by his behavior and the recommendations from the D.A. and defense.

Hunter Biden's trial for buying a firearm while addicted to crack cocaine begins, with opening statements scheduled for tomorrow.

The case against Hunter Biden appears strong due to his own public admissions of drug addiction.

A plea deal for Hunter Biden that did not include prison time previously fell apart.

Donald Trump and the RNC raise $141 million in May, with 25% of donors being new.

Republican Senator Mike Lee threatens to slow down Senate progress in retribution for Trump's conviction.

Prime Minister Netanyahu of Israel to address Congress on June 13, amidst disagreements on a cease-fire plan with Hamas.

The Biden administration's three-phase plan for a cease-fire faces pushback from Netanyahu.

Trump's conviction does not significantly alter poll results, as his support remains steady among certain voter groups.

Biden's campaign is focused on issues like inflation and immigration, which benefit Trump, while abortion and democracy issues benefit Biden.

Transcripts

>> FROM THE WORLD OF POLITICS TO THE WORLD OF BUSINESS.

THIS IS "BALANCE OF POWER."

♪ LIVE FROM WASHINGTON, D.C.

JOE: FROM BLOOMBERG WASHINGTON, D.C.

STUDIOS TO OUR TV AND RADIO AUDIENCES WORLDWIDE, WELCOME TO

"BALANCE OF POWER." ALONGSIDE KAILEY LEINZ, I AM JOE

MATHIEU. KAILEY: DONALD TRUMP RAISES MORE MONEY

IN NEW YORK AS REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS RETURNED TO

WASHINGTON WITH RETRIBUTION PLANS.

WE WILL FOLLOW THE MONEY AND THE PLANNING.

JOE: ISRO PUSHES BACK ON THE PROPOSAL FOR A CEASE-FIRE

REVEALED LAST WEEK, PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU REFUSING TO

ENDORSE A PERMANENT STOP IN FIGHTING UNTIL HAMAS IS

DESTROYED. WE WILL DISCUSS WITH THE

ATLANTIC COUNCIL. KAILEY:

AND CLAUDIA SHINE BOMB IS ELECTED AS MEXICO'S FIRST

FEMALE PRESIDENT IN HISTORY. WE EXPLORE WHAT IT MEANS FOR

U.S.-MEXICO RELATIONS. THIS EVENING WE HAVE OUR EYES

ON MANY STORIES ABROAD, BUT STORIES YEAH I'M PROUD TO

CONTINUE TO BE DOMINATED BY ONE THING, LAST WEEK'S GUILTY

VERDICT.

JOE: CERTAINLY AS LAWMAKERS RETURN

TO WASHINGTON FROM THEIR MEMORIAL DAY RECESS, IT TAKES

ON NEW MEANING IN THE

CAPITAL, IN AN INTERVIEW THAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT SAT FOR

OVER THE WEEKEND ADVANCES HIS STORY AS HE CONSIDERS OUT LOUD

THE POSSIBILITY OF BEING SENTENCED TO JAIL.

HERE HE IS ON FOX -- >> THE JUDGE COULD DECIDE TO SAY HOUSE

ARREST OR EVEN JAIL.

>> I AM OK WITH THAT.

I SAW ONE OF MY LAWYERS ONE DAY ON TELEVISION SAYING NOW, YOU

DON'T WANT TO DO THAT TO THE PRESIDENT.

I SAID, YOU DON'T BEG FOR ANYTHING.

IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS. I DON'T KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC

WOULD STAND IT NOT, SURE THE PUBLIC WOULD STAND FOR IT.

BUT AT SOME POINT, THERE IS A BREAKING POINT.

. KAILEY: LET'S BLOOMBERG'S ERIC LARSON,

LEGAL REPORTER FOR US. HOW MUCH ARE THE ODDS OF TRUMP

ACTUALLY SPENDING TIME BEHIND BARS DEPENDS ON HIS CONDUCT

BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN HE IS SENTENCED ON JULY 11? GUEST:

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. BEFORE THE TRIAL STARTED, LEGAL

EXPERTS SAID THEY THOUGHT IT WAS UNLIKELY THAT TRUMP WOULD

BE SPENDING ANY TIME BEHIND BARS IF CONVICTED.

BUT A LOT DEPENDS ON HOW DEFENDANT BEHAVES AFTER THEY

ARE FOUND GUILTY. HE HAS SEEN PLENTY OF CASES

BEFORE WHERE THE DEFENDANT HAS ADMITTED SOME WRONGDOING AND

TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY AND THAT HAS HELPED THEIR OUTLOOK FOR

SENTENCE. NOT ONLY IS TRUMP NOT TAKING

RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE VERDICT, HE IS GOING ON THE ATTACK, AND

AS WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE WEEKEND. SO IT REALLY WILL BE

INTERESTING TO SEE HOW MUCH TIME THE D.A.

SUGGESTS, IF ANY, IN HIS SENTENCING RECOMMENDATION, AND

WHAT THE JUDGE COMES DOWN WITH AT THE SENTENCING ON JULY 11.

JOE: WE SHOULD REMIND OUR VIEWERS

AND LISTENERS THAT ERIC WAS AT THE COURTHOUSE FOR THE BULK OF

THE TRIAL AND YOU WERE JUST GREAT, ERIK, YOUR TEAM

TRANSLATING INFORMATION FOR US IN THE WORLD WITHOUT CAMERAS

AND MICROPHONES. BUT I AM COMPELLED BY THE NEXT

STEP, AND I BELIEVE THAT IS AN INTERVIEW THAT THE FORMER

PRESIDENT WILL HAVE WITH A PROBATION OFFICER.

HOW WILL THAT WORK?

>> IT'S A REALLY STANDARD PROCEDURE WHERE A DEFENDANT

CONVICTED HAS TO MEET WITH PROBATION INDIVIDUALS AND TRY

TO GIVE A SENSE OF WHO THEY ARE AS A PERSONAL, WHAT RISKS THEY

MIGHT FACE IF THEY ARE FLIGHT RISKS, THAT SORT OF THING.

SOMETHING THAT IS VERY SECRET, NOT SOMETHING WE ARE EXPECTING

TO SEE . REALLY THE BIGGEST PUBLIC

DOCUMENTS WE CAN EXPECT OUT OF THIS MIGHT BE THE

RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE D.A. AND PERHAPS FROM THE DEFENSE.

IT WILL BE FASCINATING TO BE A FLY IN THE WALL IN ONE OF THESE

INTERVIEWS BECAUSE IT WILL BE SOMETHING TRUMP HAS CERTAINLY

NEVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE.

KAILEY: YEAH, I THINK WE WOULD ALL LOVE

TO BE A FLY ON THE WALL IN THAT ROOM.

WE HAVE PAID ATTENTION IN THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS TO THIS

TRIAL, BUT A NEW TRIAL WITH POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS BEGAN

TODAY IN DELAWARE, THE PRESIDENT'S SON,

HUNTER BIDEN, ON TRIAL FOR ESSENTIALLY BUYING A FIREARM

AND LYING ABOUT HIS ADDITION TO CRACK COCAINE, AT LEAST THOSE

ARE THE ALLEGATIONS. WE UNDERSTAND OPENING

STATEMENTS WILL BE TOMORROW. HOW DIFFICULT IS THE CASE FOR

THE PRESIDENT'S SON AND HIS DEFENSE TEAM? ERIK:

IT DOES SEEM LIKE A FAIRLY DIFFICULT CASE ONLY BECAUSE I

WILL POINT OUT THAT SOME OF THE BIGGEST EVIDENCE THE GOVERNMENT

HAS AGAINST HUNTER BIDEN CAME FROM HIS OWN BOOK.

HE SORT OF ADMITTED IN PUBLIC THAT HE WAS ADDICTED TO DRUGS

AT THE TIME THAT HE GOT THIS FIREARM.

THAT BEING SAID, HIS LAWYERS HAVE A DEFENSE PLAN, THEY ARE

PLANNING TO ARGUE THAT TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, PERHAPS

BY THE LAW IS NOT ACTUALLY ADDICTED OR HIGH AT THE MOMENT

THAT HE BROUGHT THE WEAPON AND PERHAPS THERE IS A DISTINCTION

THERE, AND SOME OF THE LAWS AROUND THIS LAW ARE TOO BIG TO

BE APPLIED IN THIS SPECIFIC WAY. SO LAWYERS HAVE COME UP WITH

THEORIES TO GET AROUND THIS. POTENTIALLY, IT WILL BE UP TO

THE JURY, BUT SOME OF THE EVIDENCE COME STRAIGHT FROM

HUNTER BIDEN'S OWN

BOOK. JOE: THERE WAS A PLEA DEAL IN THIS

CASE AND IT PLAYED OUT IN THE PUBLIC EYE AS IT COMPLETELY

FELL APART, BUT IT DIDN'T INCLUDE PRISON TIME.

I WONDER IF THAT PLEA DEAL GIVES US ANY SENSE OF HOW THIS

CASE MIGHT RESULT. ERIK: WE NEVER GOT TO THAT STAGE, SO

IT'S UNCLEAR. BUT IT'S ALSO WORTH POINTING

OUT THAT THERE IS A SEPARATE CASE, A TAX RELATED CASE THAT

HUNTER BIDEN FACES FROM THE SAME SPECIAL COUNSEL THAT WAS

BROUGHT IN CALIFORNIA AT FEDERAL COURT THAT IS GOING ON

TRIAL IN SEPTEMBER. SO EVEN IF HUNTER BIDEN IS

CONVICTED, HE WILL STILL FACE THIS OTHER TRIAL AND EVEN IF HE

IS ACQUITTED, HE WILL FACE ANOTHER TRIAL, SO IT REALLY IS

AN UNPRECEDENTED SITUATION HE IS FACING HERE.

JOE: ERIK, GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE,

ERIK LARSSON, HAVING LIVED THROUGH THE TRIAL IN LOWER

MANHATTAN. WITH US ON "BALANCE OF POWER"

FOR MORE ON THE ONGOING FOLLOWED FROM TRUMP'S

CONVICTION, WE BRING IN OUR NEXT GUEST. GREAT TO SEE YOU AT

THE TABLE FOOD LAWMAKERS ARE COMING BACK TO

WASHINGTON, SO THIS IS THE NEXT LEG IN THE STORY AS WE GO

FROM THE LEGAL ASPECT OF THE POLITICAL NOT ONLY ON THE

CAMPAIGN TRAIL, BUT RESONATING IN WASHINGTON.

THE BIG HEADLINE SEEMS TO BE $52 MILLION, THE MONEY RAISED,

UP FROM $38 MILLION AT THE END OF LAST WEEK.

JUST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS CONTINUED TO COME IN.

SMALL DONATIONS AND IN MANY CASES, NEW DONORS.

WHAT ARE WE LEARNING ABOUT DONALD TRUMP'S CHANCES THROUGH

THE MONEY? GUEST: A QUARTER OF THOSE ARE NEW

DONORS AND WE ARE SEEING SMALL CASH AMOUNTS, ENSURING THAT

PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A TON OF MONEY TO GIVE, STILL WANT TO

PARTICIPATE IN DEMOCRACY. THE INTERESTING THING IS WE

DIDN'T LEARN ANYTHING NEW ABOUT TRUMP AND HIS HISTORY.

IN THE RUN-UP TO THE 2016 ELECTION FROM THE TRIAL.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE MONEY THAT IS COMING IN, IF THAT

SIGNIFIES A SIGH OF RELIEF OF LIFE THIS PERSON DIDN'T

COMPLETELY GET THROWN OVERBOARD BY THE TRIAL, THAT IT'S NOT AS

BAD AS WE EXPECTED. OR IF IT KIND OF WAS LIKE OK,

WE CROSSED THAT RUBICON. HE IS CONVICTED, BUT STILL

STANDING THERE AND CONVENTIONS ARE COMING UP FROM THE DEBATE

IS COMING UP AND WE WILL PUT OUR MONEY THERE.

KAILEY: OR PERHAPS THE FACT THAT HE WAS

CONVICTED, IT PROVIDES EVIDENCE TO SOME THAT THIS IS ALL RIGGED

AGAINST HIM AND THEY WANT TO PROVIDE SUPPORT FROM THE TRUMP

CAMPAIGN TOGETHER WITH THE RNC SAID THEY RAISED $141 MILLION

IN MAY. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING SO MUCH

ABOUT THE CASH GAP BETWEEN TRUMP AND BIDEN, TRUMP HAVING

TO PLAY CATCH-UP. BUT FIGURES LIKE THIS, IT

POTENTIALLY IS A GAP THAT IS ALL BUT

CLOSED. SALEHA: ABSOLUTELY. WE HAVE BEEN SAYING THE LAST

COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT POLLS SHOWED TRUMP EDGING AHEAD, BUT

THE MONEY SHOWS, THAT BIOTIN IS WINNING.

IF WE WILL USE THOSE SAME METRICS NOW, BIDEN IS WINNING

ON BOTH COUNTS. MAYBE THE SITTING PRESIDENT IS

AN UNDERDOG RIGHT NOW. JOE: SENATOR MIKE LEE SAYS HE WILL

SLOW THINGS DOWN IN THE SENATE, KEEP BIDEN INITIATIVES FROM

PROGRESSING, ALL IN THE NAME OF RETRIBUTION FOR DONALD TRUMP.

JUDICIAL NOMINATIONS WILL BE ON ICE.

I GUESS THE DOOR IS CLOSED IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE ON CAPITOL

HILL NOW.

SALEHA: ABSOLUTELY, THEY ARE LOOKING TO

GUM UP LEGISLATION IN WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW TO SHOW

THAT THEY THINK PROGRESSIVES AND DEMOCRATS ARE PUTTING THE

THUMB ON THE SCALE FOR THE TRUMP VERDICT OR THE TIMING OF

THAT TRIAL.

AND ALSO TO KIND SHOW A JUDGE HOW THINGS ARE PLAYING OUT.

IF YOU ARE A JUDGE ON THIS CASE AND YOU ARE SEEING PUBLIC

OUTCRY, I DON'T KNOW, I WOULD THINK YOU ARE A HUMAN BEING, IT

WILL AFFECT HOW YOU RULE. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MORE

PRISTINE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL

INFLUENCE HIS THINKING. KAILEY:

WE WILL SEE HOW IT ACTUALLY INFLUENCES LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS

ON CAPITOL HILL. WE DO HAVE A DATE FOR BENJAMIN

NETANYAHU, PRIME MINISTER OF ISRAEL, GIVING A JOINT ADDRESS

TO CONGRESS. IT WILL BE NEXT WEEK, JUNE 13.

BIDEN WILL BE AT THE G7. BUT NETANYAHU AND BIDEN SEEM

LIKE THEY HAVE GOTTEN THEIR WIRES CROSSED POTENTIALLY.

WE HAVE THIS THREE-PHASE PLAN AND WE JUST NEED HAMAS TO SIGN

ON. NETANYAHU SAYING NOT SO FAST.

NOT ALL OF THIS IS AS YOU CHARACTERIZED IT.

WHAT IS GOING ON? SALEHA: IT'S BEEN HARD TO FIGURE OUT

WHAT IS THE U.S.

ADMINISTRATION'S SPIN VERSUS WHAT HAMAS IS SAYING AND WHAT

BENJAMIN NETANYAHU IS SAYING. OFFICIALS HAVE SAID THIS WAS

HAMAS'S PLANET THAT THEY PROPOSE THAT ISRAEL TURNED DOWN

A FEW WEEKS BACK AND WE HAVE JUST ADDED A FEW BRUSHSTROKES

TO IT AND PROPOSE IT AGAIN. THEY DID GIVE NETANYAHU A

COUPLE OF HOURS NOTICE THAT THIS SPEECH WAS COMING AND HERE

ARE THE BRASS TACKS OF IT. NOW WE ARE SEEING NETANYAHU

EXPRESSING A BIT OF SURPRISE AND PUSHING BACK ON THAT DEAL.

KAILEY: PERHAPS WE WILL GET SOME MORE

COLOR WHEN HE ADDRESSES CONGRESS NEXT WEEK. JOE:

THAT'S RIGHT AND HE WILL NOT BE, APPARENTLY, VISITING THE

WHITE HOUSE. BLOOMBERG'S SALEHA MOHSIN,

THANK YOU AS ALWAYS FOR BEING WITH US. KAILEY: A SLEW OF.

SINCE TRUMP'S CONVICTION ARE OFFERING A VARIETY OF

INTERPRETATIONS OF HOW VOTERS ARE REACTING TO THE DEVELOPMENT

PERMIT WE WILL SPEAK ON THAT A BIT AFTER THIS IS "BALANCE OF

POWER" ON BLOOMBERG TV AND RADIO.

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ON BLOOMBERG TV AND RADIO.

>> BEFORE THE CONVICTION, THE NUMBERS WERE IN THE LOW 20'S IN

THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY. THAT IS A HUGE CHANGE AND ONE

OF THE REASONS TRUMP DEFINITELY LOST VOTES BECAUSE OF THIS

CONVICTION. HE LOST WHITE SUBURBAN

HOUSEWIVES IN THE MIDWEST. NO QUESTION.

BUT THE REASON HE HASN'T GONE DOWN IN ANY OF THE OTHER

POLLING DATA IS HE SEEMS TO BE MAKING IT UP SOMEWHERE

ELSE. KAILEY: FORMER ACT TO WHITE HOUSE CHIEF

OF STAFF MICK MULVANEY ON THE EARLIER EDITION OF "BALANCE OF

POWER" TODAY. LET'S GO TO POSTER FRANK LUNTZ

WITH MORE PERMIT IN THE DAYS AND STRUMS A GUILTY VERDICT, WE

HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF POLLS,, PICK YOUR POISON, EACH ONE

MIGHT MAKE YOU FEEL DIFFERENTLY. IS IT TOO SOON TO KNOW WHAT THE

IMPACT OF THIS VERDICT REALLY IS ON THE 2024 PRESIDENTIAL

OUTCOME? FRANK:

NO, ACTUALLY IT IS SOON ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT IT WILL NOT

SIGNIFICANTLY ALTER THE RESULTS AT THIS MOMENT, AND IN FACT THE

TWO PRESIDENTS' DEBATES WILL BE MORE IMPORTANT.

THAT THE GAINS TRUMP HAD MADE AMONG UNION MEMBERS, HISPANICS,

YOUNG AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN, ARE SIGNIFICANT AND THEY ARE

HOLDING. THAT BIDEN'S GAINS AMONG

MIDDLE-AGED FEMALE SUBURBAN VOTERS, THOSE ARE HOLDING.

AND BASICALLY, THIS FEELS MORE LIKE WORLD WAR I.

IT IS JUST SIMPLY A GROUND GAME. IT'S A WAR OF ATTRITION, AND

THERE SIMPLY ISN'T THAT BIG DRAMATIC EVENT THAT MOST PEOPLE

HAD EXPECTED IF DONALD TRUMP WAS AND HAS BEEN FOUND GUILTY

OF ALL CHARGES. THAT IS WHAT I NEED TO

EMPHASIZE. THE ASSUMPTION WAS 90 DAYS AGO,

AT THAT IF DONALD TRUMP WAS FOUND GUILTY, THE BOTTOM WOULD

DROP OUT OF HIS SUPPORT AND THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED.

IT HAS WEEKEND, PEOPLE HAVE STARTED TO RECONSIDER WHETHER

OR NOT PEOPLE SUPPORT HIM. BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO DRAMATIC

SHIFT AND THAT IN ITSELF IS A VERY BIG STORY.

JOE: SPEAKING OF BIG STORIES, SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED EARLIER

WITH MICK MULVANEY ABOUT THIS MIGRATION FROM JOE IN DONALD

TRUMP WHEN IT COMES TO SOME BLACK VOTERS AND FROM WHAT WE

HAVE

UNDERSTAND, FROM POLLS, IN MANY CASES, OLDER BLACK MALE

VOTERS. BUT THE LOGIC HAS BEEN KIND OF

THING FOR ME. IF YOU ARE A STUDENT OF HISTORY

AND INTELLECTUAL. ARE WE TO BELIEVE THAT A

CONVICTION, DONALD TRUMP SELLING SNEAKERS, SOMEHOW MOVES

BLACK VOTERS AS A MONOLITH. FRANK:

THE SELLING OF SNEAKERS, I DON'T KNOW WHO CAME UP WITH

THAT IDEA, IF IT IS DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF. IT'S RIDICULOUS.

WE DON'T HAVE IT AMONG OLDER BLACK MEN, WE HAVE IT AMONG

YOUNGER BLACK MEN THAT THINK HE IS TOUGH, THEY

APPRECIATE HIS ATTITUDE THROUGH THAT THAT HE IS FIGHTING THE

SYSTEM.

BUT I THINK IT IS MORE SIGNIFICANT THAT THE LATINO

VOTE, TWICE AS HIGH THAN THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE.

AND AMONG UNION VOTERS IN PENNSYLVANIA, MICHIGAN AND

WISCONSIN WHICH ARE THE KEY STATES.

THERE ARE ONLY SEVEN STATES IN PLAY.

TRUMP IS CAP IN FOUR OF THE SEVEN BY FIVE POINTS OR MORE.

NEVADA, NORTH CAROLINA AND GEORGIA, BUT HE IS VIRTUALLY

DEAD EVEN IN THE OTHER 3 -- PENNSYLVANIA, WISCONSIN AND

MICHIGAN. IF HE WINS THE FIRST FOUR, ALL

OF THEM, HE HAS 268 ELECTORAL VOTES. YOU NEED 200 72 WIN.

FOR TRUMP TO BE ELECTED, FOLLOW PENNSYLVANIA, MICHIGAN AND

WISCONSIN AND ALL THREE OF THOSE SKATES ARE TOO CLOSE TO

CALL.

KAILEY: WE HAVE SEEING PRESIDENT BIDEN

SPENDING A LOT OF TIME IN THOSE THREE STATES AND WE HAVE ALSO

SEEN PRESIDENT BIDEN SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS IDEA THAT

DONALD IS A DANGER TO DEMOCRACY. THAT DEMOCRACY SHOULD BE AN

ISSUE THAT VOTERS MAKE THEIR SELECTION ON COME NOVEMBER.

DOES HIS CONVICTION ADD MORE SALIENCY TO THAT ARGUMENT OR IS

THAT NOT GOING TO WIN OUT OVER THINGS LIKE THE ECONOMY AND THE

BORDER?

FRANK: IT ADDS MORE SALIENCY, BUT IT

DOES SO AMONG BIDEN VOTERS. IF YOU ARE ASKING INDEPENDENTS,

SWING VOTERS, PEOPLE WHO WOULD FOR DONALD TRUMP WAS ALREADY

BUT NOT TWICE, PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR HILLARY CLINTON OR JOE

BIDEN, BUT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT BIDEN'S REELECTION, INFLATION,

AND WHAT I SAY IS AFFORDABILITY, IT'S THE NUMBER

ONE ISSUE. HOUSING AND HEALTH CARE.

MAKING THOSE MORE AFFORDABLE IS BIDEN'S GREATEST WEAKNESS AND

TRUMP'S GREATEST STRENGTH. THE SECOND ISSUE IS IMMIGRATION

FROM THE CONTROL OF THE BORDER, FEAR OF CRIME AND

DESTABILIZATION AND WHO COMES ACROSS.

THAT ISSUE ALSO BENEFITS DONALD TRUMP BY ABOUT 10 POINTS.

THE THIRD ISSUE IS ABORTION. THAT ISSUE IS PARTICULARLY

IMPORTANT AMONG YOUNG WOMEN AND IT COULD BE ENOUGH IN THESE KEY

STATES TO BRING OUT YOUNG WOMEN WHO OFTEN DON'T VOTE IN

PRESIDENTIAL CONTESTS, AND THAT ISSUE BENEFITS JOE BIDEN.

YOU GET TO DEMOCRACY NEXT. IT IS THE FOURTH MOST

IMPORTANT, THE FOURTH MOST SALIENT ISSUE.

BUT LET'S FACE IT, WHEN EVERY VOTE COUNTS IN THESE KEY

STATES, I WOULD RATHER BE TALKING ABOUT IMMIGRATION, AND

INFLATION, OVER ABORTION AND DEMOCRACY. JOE:

WHEN JOE BIDEN IS IN NORMANDY LATER THIS WEEK, HE WILL BE

TALKING ABOUT DEMOCRACY AND I BELIEVE YOU WILL BE THERE FOR

THE 80TH ANNIVERSARY OF D-DAY. CAN -- CAN HE LEVERAGE THAT TO

DRAW THE CONTRAST BETWEEN HIS CAMPAIGN AND ONE THAT HAS BEEN

ASSOCIATED AT TIMES WITH NANCY LANGUAGE, THE REICH POST THAT

WE SAW RECENTLY, NOT TO MENTION THE OVERALL TENOR OF THESE TWO

CAMPAIGNS?

FRANK: FRANK: THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.

AND AS I ALWAYS, THE QUESTIONS YOU ALL ASK IN YOUR INTERVIEWS

ABSOLUTELY HIT THE MARK.

ONE OF RONALD REAGAN'S GREATEST SPEECHES WAS A POINT TO HAWK

AND I GET EMOTIONAL WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE

ARE SO MANY VETERANS WHO WERE ALIVE THEN AND ARE GONE TODAY

AND REAGAN USED THAT SPEECH TO DECLARE TO THE APPLAUSE TO THE

REPUBLICANS AND INDEPENDENTS AND DEMOCRATS IN THE

SUPERIORITY OF GOVERNMENT, THE SUPERIORITY OF THE AMERICAN

CULTURE. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT JOE

BIDEN HAS NOT REALLY BEEN ABLE TO DO.

IS THIS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR HIM? ABSOLUTELY.

AND THE WORLD WILL BE WATCHING. MORE IMPORTANTLY, PENNSYLVANIA,

MICHIGAN, WISCONSIN WILL BE WATCHING.

BUT STILL, THE DATE THAT MATTERS MOST IN THIS

CONVERSATION IS JUNE 27, BECAUSE THAT WILL BE THE DAY

THAT DECIDES WHO WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT.

JOE: FRANK LUNTZ, GREAT TO HAVE YOU

BACK AND SAFE TRAVELS OVERSEAS. COMING UP ELECTING ITS FIRST

FEMALE PRESIDENT IN A LANDSLIDE LAST NIGHT FROM IT WE WILL HAVE

A LOOK AT WHAT THE VICTORY WILL REMAIN FOR THE COUNTRY AND

U.S.-MEXICO RELATIONS NEXT ON "BALANCE OF POWER"

ON BLOOMBERG TV AND RADIO.

>> I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU, BECAUSE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN

200 YEARS OF THE REPUBLIC, I WILL BECOME THE FIRST FEMALE

PRESIDENT OF MEXICO. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] JOE:

THAT WAS CLAUDIA SCHIERBAUM, MEXICO'S FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT

ELECT AFTER A LANDSLIDE VICTORY ON SUNDAY, THE FORMER MAYOR OF

MEXICO CITY WON BY A MARGIN OF MORE THAN 30 PERCENTAGE

POINTS. IMAGINE THAT IN THIS COUNTRY.

JOINING US NOW IS BLOOMBERG'S CREIGHTON HARRISON WITH MORE.

WE WOULD LOVE TO ASK YOU ABOUT WHAT WENT BEHIND THIS LANDSLIDE

VICTORY, BUT I WONDER IF YOU COULD START WITH PERSPECTIVE.

MEXICO BEAT THE U.S. IN ELECTING A WOMAN TO BE

PRESIDENT, HOW BIG A DEAL IS THAT FOR THE COUNTRY? CREIGHTON:

IT'S A HUGE DEAL IN ANY COUNTRY OBVIOUSLY, BUT MEXICO HAS DONE

A LOT OF WORK TO INCREASE FEMALE REPRESENTATION IN THE

POLITICAL SYSTEM. THERE IS ACTUALLY A BIT OF A

QUOTA SYSTEM THAT MAKES THE GENDER-BALANCE REQUIRED IN

CONGRESS FOR EXAMPLE,.

WE HAVE SEVERAL LEADERS FEAR OF GOVERNMENT BODIES, DEPARTMENTS

AND THE SUPREME COURT, THAT ARE WOMEN, SO IN SOMEWAYS THIS WAS

VERY HARD-FOUGHT AND A BATTLE AND CLAUDIA SHINE BOMB DESERVES

A LOT OF CREDIT AS THE FIRST, BUT IN SOME WAYS IT WAS A LONG

TIME COMING.

KAILEY: IT'S REMARKABLE THAT ANY WOMAN

DID THIS, BUT WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT HER IN ANY POLICY SHE IS

LIKELY TO SUPPORT AND HOW DIFFERENT WILL IT BE IN MEXICO

THAN UNDER AMLO? CRAYTON: YOU ARE ASKING A QUESTION ON

EVERYONE'S MIND. SHE IS THE PORTAGE.

OF ANDRES MANUEL LOPEZ OBRADOR, CURRENT PRESIDENT.

SHE HAS VERY MUCH STUCK BY HIS SIDE AND AGREES WITH PRETTY

MUCH EVERY POLICY SHE HAS PUT FORTH AND SO SHE HAS PROJECTED

HERSELF AS A FIGURE OF CONTINUITY TO THE MEXICAN

ELECTORATE, WHICH CLEARLY LIKES WHAT AMLO HAS HAD TO OFFER IN

THE LAST SIX YEARS. SO THE QUESTION IS, DOES SHE

START TO FORGE HER OWN IDENTITY ONCE SHE TAKES

OFFICE? THERE IS A LOT OF SPECULATION

SHE MAY BE MORE OPEN, FOR EXAMPLE, TO FOREIGN INVESTMENT

IN NOT NECESSARILY IN PEMEX, THE STATE OIL COMPANY,

BUT OTHER FORMS OF ENERGY AND PERHAPS SOME RENEWABLE ENERGY,

THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN OF COURSE, WILL SHE EMBRACE SOME OF THE REFORMS

THAT HE HAS PUT FORTH THAT SOME PEOPLE VIEW AS ANTIDEMOCRATIC,

FOR EXAMPLE, THE DIRECT ELECTION OF JUDGES WHICH PEOPLE

FEEL LIKE MIGHT PUT THE SUPREME COURT INTO A MORE POLITICAL

SPHERE.

JOE: WE JUST HAVE A MINUTE LEFT, I

WONDER, TO WHAT EXTENT THERE WILL BE CONTINUITY DONE WITH

RELATIONS BETWEEN OUR TWO COUNTRIES.

JOE BIDEN IS REPORTEDLY ABOUT TO DROP A NEW EXECUTIVE ACTION

ON THE BORDER TOMORROW. WILL CONVERSATIONS WITH HERS,

DO THEY SOUND LIKE THE SAME HE HAS HAD WITH AMLO? CRAYTON:

SHE MADE A VERY POINTED EFFORT LAST NIGHT TO EMPHASIZE THAT

SHE WANTED GOOD RELATIONS WITH THE U.S..

OBVIOUSLY IT IS MEXICO'S MOST IMPORTANT TRADE PARTNER AND

MEXICO IS THE U.S.'S, AND THERE IS A LOT OF SHARED INTERESTS.

THE MIGRATION PROBLEM IS SOMETHING MEXICO HAS BEEN

WORKING WITH THE U.S. FOR QUITE SOME TIME, SHE HAS

SAID SHE WILL CONTINUE THAT. BUT OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE

ELECTION IN NOVEMBER IN THE U.S., IT WILL BE A PRETTY

HEATED POLITICAL DISCUSSION IN THE NEXT FEW

MONTHS. KAILEY: ALRIGHT, BLOOMBERG'S CRAYTON

HARRISON, LIVE IN MEXICO CITY TONIGHT, THANK

YOU. COMING UP, OTHER ISSUES ABROAD,

INCLUDING ISRAEL'S REACTION TO

>> THE REAL QUESTION RIGHT NOW IS TO HAMAS.

HAMAS HAS THIS PROPOSAL IN FRONT OF THEM AND THEY ARE THE

DECISION-MAKER RIGHT NOW ON WHETHER IT CAN GO FORWARD OR

NOT. THE ROADBLOCK RIGHT NOW TO A

CEASE-FIRE IS NOT ISRAEL, IT IS HAMAS. JOE:

THAT WAS MATTHEW MILLER, STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESPERSON,

EARLIER TODAY TALKING TO REPORTERS, PUTTING THE ONUS ON

HAMAS TO ACCEPT THE LATEST CEASE-FIRE PROPOSAL THAT

BENJAMIN NETANYAHU IS PUSHING BACK ON.

JOINING US IS THE SENIOR FELLOW AT THE LEAD COUNSEL, CARMIEL

ARBIT. PRESIDENT BIDEN'S REMARKS, A

THREE-PHASE PLAN. WE UNDERSTAND NETANYAHU'S

OFFICE APPROVED THE TEXT ON FRIDAY BUT WE ARE HEARING A

DIFFERENT TUNE IN AN INTERVIEW BENJAMIN NETANYAHU HELD, SAYING

THERE WILL BE NO PERMANENT CEASE-FIRE UNTIL HAMAS HAS BEEN

ELIMINATED. IS JOE BIDEN TRYING TO FORCE

THE HAND OF BENJAMIN NETANYAHU PUBLICLY OR IS NETANYAHU GAS

LIGHTING JOE BIDEN? CARMIEL: I THINK IT IS NOT QUITE AS

SIMPLE AS GAS LIGHTING OR FORCING HANDS.

THE ISRAELIS HAVE AGREED TO THE AGREEMENT OVER THE COURSE OF

THE NEGOTIATIONS. WHAT REMAINS A QUESTION FOR

ISRAEL IS WHAT THE TIMELINE WILL LOOK LIKE AND WHAT NEEDS

TO HAPPEN FIRST IN ORDER FOR THE CEASE-FIRE TO TAKE EFFECT.

THE ISRAELIS ARE HOPING TO CONTINUE THEIR OPERATION IN

RAFAH, TO CONTINUE ALL OF THIS AS HAMAS CONSIDERS A DEAL.

WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT IS THEY

DON'T EXPECT HAMAS TO ACCEPT THESE TERMS. WHAT BIDEN IS

DOING, IS HE'S CREATING A NARRATIVE WHEREBY NETANYAHU HAS

AGREED TO A PROPOSAL. HE IS HOLDING HIM ACCOUNTABLE

FOR IT PUBLICLY AND PUTTING A HUGE ABOUT OF PRESSURE ON THE

ISRAELI GOVERNMENT INTERNALLY TO STANDBY IT DESPITE

OPPOSITION FROM RIGHT-WING ACTORS IN BIBI'S GOVERNMENT.

KAILEY: ON THAT POINT, IT WAS STRIKING

TO SEE OVER THE WEEKEND COMPARISONS TO THE THREATS

AGAINST BENJAMIN NETANYAHU IF HE WERE TO AGREE TO THIS TO

ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE EXPERIENCED WITH THE OUSTING OF KEVIN

MCCARTHY EFFECTIVELY. YOU DO THIS, YOU WILL BE KICKED

OUT. HOW REALISTIC IS IT THAT COULD

HAPPEN IN THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT AS A RESULT OF THIS?

CARMIEL: NETANYAHU'S GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN

EXTREMELY FRAGILE, PARTICULARLY AS THE WAR HAS RAGED ON AND WE

HAVE SEEN INCREASING TENSION POINTS.

THOSE TENSIONS HAVE BEEN OVER BOTH HOW THE WAR IS BE

EXECUTED, HOW HUMANITARIAN AID IS BEING DELIVERED, AND WHOSE

BEING RECRUITED TO SERVE IN ISRAEL'S MILITARY.

INDEED, THE FAR RIGHT AND ISRAEL COULD BRING DOWN THE

GOVERNMENT. THE LIKUD PARTY COULD ALSO

BRING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT. FIVE MEMBERS COULD DEFECT AND

BRING IT DOWN. WE ARE SEEING LOTS OF TENSIONS

AND THERE IS THAT CONCERN FOR NETANYAHU WHICH MAKES IT VERY

DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO MAKE CONCESSIONS ON THE

INTERNATIONAL FRONT. HE SAID ARE HUGE ABOUT OF

PRESSURE FROM HOSTAGE FAMILIES TO SECURE THE RELEASE OF

HOSTAGES, BUT IS ALSO A HUGE AMOUNT OF PRESSURE FROM THE FAR

RIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT HAMAS IS OBLITERATED IN GAZA. JOE:

YESTERDAY, JOHN KIRBY WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS AND SHARED

THAT ISRAEL WAS EXPECTED TO SAY YES TO THE UPDATED CEASE-FIRE

PLAN THAT THE PRESIDENT SHARED LAST WEEK. HERE IT IS.

>> WE HAVE EVERY EXPECTATION THAT IF HAMAS AGREES TO THE

PROPOSAL AS WAS TRANSMITTED TO THEM, AN IS REALLY PROPOSAL,

THAT ISRAEL WOULD SAY YES. PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU'S

FOREIGN MINISTER SAID THEY WELCOME THIS ANNOUNCEMENT BY

THE PRESIDENT AND THEY DID AGREE THAT THIS WAS THEIR

PROPOSAL. JOE: YET ON SATURDAY, BENJAMIN

NETANYAHU'S OFFICE SAID "ISRAEL'S CONDITIONS FOR ENDING

THE WAR HAVE NOT CHANGED." SO, IS THE TRUTH SOMEWHERE IN

THE MIDDLE? WE HAVE A SIX-WEEK PAUSE IN

FIGHTING ON THE TABLE. IS THAT WHAT WE SHOULD BE

REACHING FOR NOW? CARMIEL: I THINK THE QUESTION IS HOW

QUICKLY THESE STAGES UNFOLD. THE IDEA THAT A FIRST STAGE

WHICH WOULD INCLUDE A CEASE-FIRE AND WITHDRAWAL OF

ISRAELI FORCES WOULD INCLUDE NEGOTIATIONS FOR A MORE

PERMANENT OUTCOME. WHAT THEY HAVE SET IS A NUMBER

OF HOSTAGES WILL BE RELEASED. ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THE

ISRAELIS HAVE PUT FORWARD THAT THEY BACKED AWAY FROM WAS THAT

WOULD INCLUDE DECEASED BODIES AND LIVING HOSTAGES.

THAT IS A KEY COMPROMISE PROVISION WE HAVE NOT SEEN

EARLIER. AT THE SAME TIME, THE QUESTION

IS WHAT TAKES THIS TO THE NEXT PHASE OF A MORE PERMANENT

CEASE-FIRE AND THE REMOVAL OF HAMAS FROM POWER?

I THINK THAT IS WHERE THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS. KAILEY:

I WONDER HOW MUCH OF THIS WILL BE IRONED OUT IF THIS WILL

ULTIMATELY BE ACCEPTED BY NEXT WEEK, WHEN WE UNDERSTAND

BENJAMIN NETANYAHU WILL BE GIVING A JOINT ADDRESS TO A

JOINT SESSION OF CONGRESS. HOW COMPLICATED WILL THE

POLITICS AROUND THAT ADDRESS BE NOT JUST AT HOME, BUT FOR HIM

AS HE IS ALSO ADDRESSING A DOMESTIC AUDIENCE TOO? CARMIEL:

I WOULD NOT EXPECT HIS ADDRESS TO CONGRESS WILL IN ANY WAY

WEIGH IN THE DECISION-MAKING FACTOR AROUND THE CEASE-FIRE

AGREEMENT. BUT WHEN THEN YAHOO! COMES TO WASHINGTON --

NETANYAHU COMES TO WASHINGTON, HE WILL BE FACING CONSIDERABLE

HEADWAY FROM THE DEMOCRATS. HE'S ALSO GOING TO BE LOOKING

AT U.S. ON THE CUSP OF AN ELECTION.

THE FIRST THING HE WILL HAVE TO DO IS COME FORWARD AND MANY

WAYS HAVE HIS ZIELINSKI MOMENT TO AFFIRM WHY THE U.S.

NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT ISRAEL MILITARILY, PARTICULARLY

AFTER THE HUGE FIGHT WE JUST OVER THE EMERGENCY SUPPLEMENTAL

FUNDING PACKAGE TO ISRAEL. NETANYAHU IS BEING REMINDED HE

CANNOT TAKE THIS RELATIONSHIP FOR GRANTED.

THE SECOND THING HE WILL NEED TO DO IS LAY OUT SOME KIND OF A

VISION FOR THE DAY AFTER GAZA. WHETHER THAT IS AN IMMEDIATE

CEASE-FIRE OR LONG-TERM CEASE-FIRE AND WHAT COMES AFTER

THAT, THAT WILL BE THE MOMENT WHERE THEY WILL TALK ABOUT IT.

JOE: THE PLAN CENTERS AROUND NOT JUST A CEASE-FIRE, BUT THE

RESUMPTION AND INCREASE IN PROVIDING HUMANITARIAN AID TO

GAZA. I WONDER YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS

TEMPORARY PIER WE PUT A LOT OF BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS, AND

TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO BUILDING.

IT'S BEING REPAIRED APPARENTLY AFTER WEATHER DAMAGE.

IS THIS STILL PART OF THE GRAND PLAN THAT THE U.S. IS OFFERING?

CARMIEL: I THINK AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN

THE PAST, HUMANITARIAN NEEDS IN GAZA ARE EXTENSIVE IN EACH

EFFORT TO ADMINISTER AID IS JUST A DROP IN THE BUCKET.

WE KNEW THERE WOULD BE COMPLICATIONS AROUND THE PIER,

NOT JUST THE PIE ITSELFR, BUT MOVING GOODS FROM THAT PIER

THROUGHOUT THE GAZA STRIP TO PEOPLE WHO NEED IT THE MOST.

THAT CHALLENGE WILL CONTINUE UNTIL THERE IS A CEASE-FIRE.

CEASE-FIRE AND CESSATION OF VIOLENCE WILL MAKE TRANSPORTING

GOODS THROUGH THE STRIP EASIER, BUT CHALLENGES WILL REMAIN,

INCLUDING A LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE, DESPERATION AND

OTHER ISSUES. THERE WILL BE NO EASY FIXES TO

THE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS IN GAZA EVEN DURING THE CEASE-FIRE.

KAILEY: IF THERE'S NO EASY FIXES, HOW

WILL WE KNOW WHAT METRICS WE WILL HAVE TO WEIGH WHETHER OR

NOT THE HUMANITARIAN AID ASPECT OF THE CEASE-FIRE DEAL HAS

ACTUALLY BEEN COMPLETED OR THAT ADEQUATE EFFORT HAS BEEN PUT IN?

HOW DO YOU JUDGE THIS? CARMIEL: I THINK AVERTING THE MOST DIRE

OF CIRCUMSTANCES, WHETHER IT IS STARVATION OR ANOTHER HEALTH

CRISIS WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT HAD BEEN BREWING, BUT HAS THUS

FAR BEEN AVERTED IS SOMETHING THAT WILL REALLY HELP SERVE AS

AN INDICATOR. BUT, WE WILL SEE THAT AID MOVE.

WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL BE ENOUGH, AND WHETHER OR NOT IT

WILL MOVE QUICKLY ENOUGH WILL CONTINUE TO BE A CHALLENGE, BUT

I THINK THERE IS THE PROSPECT FOR IMPROVEMENT. KAILEY:

CARMIEL ARBIT, OF THE ATLANTIC COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR JOINING

US. COMING UP, WE WILL TURN TO HER

POLITICAL PANEL AS WE LOOK AT THE RETRIBUTION PLANS THAT

CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS HAVE IN RESPONSE TO THE FELONY

CONVICTION OF DONALD TRUMP LAST WEEK.

MORE NEXT ON "BALANCE OF POWER"

KAILEY: THIS IS BALANCE OF POWER.

FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP AND THE RNC BRAKED IN A MASSIVE

$141 MILLION HAUL IN MAY ACCORDING TO HIS CAMPAIGN WHICH

SAYS 25% OF DONORS LAST MONTH WERE NEW.

TENS OF MILLIONS OF THAT CAME AFTER HIS FELONY CONVICTION

LAST WEEK. JOINING US NOW IS OUR POLITICAL

PANEL.

RICK DAVIS AND JEANNIE SHENZHEN , SENIOR DEMOCRACY FELLOW WITH

THE CENTER FOR STUDY OF THE PRESIDENCY AND CONGRESS.

RICK, OBVIOUSLY, WE WON'T KNOW HOW THIS CHANGES VOTES

REALISTICALLY UNTIL NOVEMBER BUT WE KNOW HOW IT IS CHANGING

THE MOVEMENT OF MONEY. IF 25% OF THE DONORS IN MAY

WERE NEW, THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD SIGN FOR DONALD TRUMP. RICK:

YEAH, THAT IS NEW MONEY COMING INTO YOUR CAMPAIGN, NEW DONORS

IS A VERY HEALTHY SIGN. IT SHOWS THAT VOTERS ARE

LOOKING HIS WAY AND SAYING I AM WILLING TO PLACE A BET.

SOME DONORS, THEY LIKE TO GO AFTER SOMEONE THAT THEY WILL

WIN. SO, THERE'S PROBABLY A LITTLE

OF THAT HE'S GOING TO WIN AND I WANT TO BE IN. IT RHYMES.

I WOULD NOT DISCOUNT THAT, INCLUDING THE BIG DONORS.

SO MANY OF THESE BIG REPUBLICAN DONORS TEND TO SIT ON THE

SIDELINES UNTIL THEY KNOW WHO WILL BE THE NOMINEE OR WHO WILL

WIN THE ELECTION AND THEN THEY START PILING ON.

I THINK YOU ARE SEEING A REAL MOVEMENT IN THAT REGARD.

BIG NUMBERS FOR DONALD TRUMP. IT WILL CHANGE THE NARRATIVE

THIS WEEK BASED ON WHAT WAS A HORRIFIC WEEK LAST WEEK ON THE

LEGAL FRONT. JOE: BIG NUMBERS INDEED.

$141 MILLION FOR TRUMP. $52.8 MILLION WAS THE 24 HOUR

PERIOD FOLLOWING THE VERDICT.

25% NEW DONORS ON THE MONTH, 30% WERE NEW WHEN THAT POCKET

OF TIME FOLLOWING THE VERDICT. WHAT IS THE TAKEAWAY FOR JOE

BIDEN? WHAT IS THE LESSON FOR THE

BIDEN CAMPAIGN?

>> THOSE NUMBERS DON'T EVEN INCLUDE THE SOFT MONEY WHICH

COULD POTENTIALLY BE A LOT OF BIG MONEY.

WE DO KNOW LAST WEEK, DONALD TRUMP EVEN THE NIGHT OF THE

CONVICTION, WENT OUT WITH SOME BIG DONORS FOR DINNER AND HE

DID THAT EVERY NIGHT. HE PROBABLY HAS RATKED IN AN

ENORMOUS AMOUNT. FOR THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN, IT

MEANS THEY HAVE TO KEEP MOVING ALONG WHERE THEY WERE IN TERMS

OF MONEY. THEY WERE DOING FAIRLY WELL

WITH MONEY. THIS IS A RACE THAT WILL BE

FOUGHT IN SIX TO SEVEN SWING STATES SO THE OPERATION ON THE

GROUND IS CRITICAL. THEY HAVE SET UP A NUMBER OF

OFFICES.

WHEN IT PERTAINS TO THE CONVICTION ITSELF, THERE'S A

HUGE DEBATE IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY HOW TOUGH SHOULD JOE

BIDEN GO ON DONALD TRUMP ON THIS. I THINK YOU ARE LOOKING AT

THESE NUMBERS IN TERMS OF THE MONEY, THE POLLS WHICH HAVE NOT

MOVED MUCH SINCE THE CONVICTION ON THURSDAY NIGHT, THAT NOTHING

JOE BIDEN HAS TO BE AGGRESSIVE BECAUSE IF HE IS NOT, THIS

THREATENS TO GET AWAY FROM THEM. SO, I THINK THEY WILL HAVE TO

ENSURE THAT HE AND HIS SURROGATES ARE AGGRESSIVE ON

THE FACT THAT DONALD TRUMP IS A CONVICTED FELON. KAILEY:

JEANNE, YOU SPEAK ABOUT DEBATE OVER THIS WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC

PARTY. IT DOES NOT SEEM LIKE THERE'S

TOO MUCH DEBATE WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

MOSTLY, EVERYBODY IS STICKING TO THE PARTY LINE, HOW THIS IS

RICK FROM THE START AND UNFAIR FOR FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP.

EVEN THOSE THAT ARE VERY ON THE MARGINS TRY TO STRAY AWAY FROM

THAT, INCLUDING LARRY HOGAN, THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF MARYLAND

WHO JUST SAID YOU HAVE TO RESPECT THE VERDICT IN THE WAY

THE JUSTICE SYSTEM PLAYED OUT.

NOW GETTING KIND OF ILLINOIS VILLAINIZED BY THE RNC. JEANNE:

THEY ARE CIRCLING THE WAGONS FOR SURE.

THE LARRY HOGAN INSTANCE WAS QUITE REMARKABLE BECAUSE THE

ASTONISHING THING HE SAID WAS RESPECT THE DECISION BASICALLY.

AND HE WAS HIT BACK BY LARA TRUMP -- THEY ARE CLEARLY

TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO SORT OF ROOM FOR ANY

REPUBLICAN OF NOTE TO TRY TO CRITICIZE DONALD TRUMP ON THIS.

THEY ARE CLEARLY CIRCLING THE WAGONS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT

THIS IS A NEGATIVE FOR ANYBODY RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT TO BE A

CONVICTED FELON. AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO LOOK FAR

TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. THREE DAYS BEFORE THE 2016

CAMPAIGN, DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF SET OF HILLARY CLINTON, A

CONVICTED FELON RUNNING FOR OFFICE OR BEING PRESIDENT WILL

GRIND THIS GOVERNMENT TO A HALT. YOU CANNOT LET IT HAPPEN.

OF COURSE, HE MET IN THE CASE OF HER, AND NOW THAT THE SHOE

WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT AND THEY KNOW THAT AS WELL.

THEY ARE TRYING TO ENSURE THAT REPUBLICANS KNOW THEY HAVE TO

STAY IN LINE ON THIS. JOE: WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF

INTERESTING EXAMPLES OF FALLOUT HERE.

THE LARA TRUMP COMMENT ABOUT LARRY HOGAN IS ONE OF THEM.

WE ARE SEEING THIS MANIFESTED ITSELF IN CAPITOL HILL.

MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE HAS THIS DEFUND NEW YORK MOVEMENT WHICH

I'M GUESSING WE SHOULD NOT PAY TOO MUCH ATTENTION TO.

MIKE LEE HAS A SIGNIFICANT ROADBLOCK IN THE SENATE.

BASICALLY ANYTHING COMING OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE IS DOA,

INCLUDING JUDICIAL NOMINATIONS. WE ARE SHOWING YOU THE LETTER

THAT MICHAEL HE WITH SOME OF

HIS COLLEAGUES -- MIKE LEE COSIGNED WITH SOME OF HIS

COLLEAGUES. THIS IDEA OF REPUBLICAN

RETRIBUTION EQUALS WHAT? RICK: WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THINGS

WILL BE GRINDING TO A HALT ANYWAY.

IT IS NOW ELECTION SEASON. THERE'S NO MUST PASS

LEGISLATION SO EVERYONE WILL BE PLAYING THESE KIND OF MESSAGING

GAMES. OBVIOUSLY, NOT LETTING ANY

FURTHER CONFIRMATIONS OF FEDERAL JUDGES WOULD BE

STANDARD OPERATING PRACTICE. BUT PUTTING IT IN THE CONTEXT

OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT WAS JUST CONVICTED OF 34 FELONIES

IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL. EVERYTHING IS IN THAT LIGHT

THESE DAYS. SO, I THINK IT IS WORTH PAYING

ATTENTION TO. ANYBODY WHO THOUGHT THEY WERE

GOING TO TRY TO FIND SOMETHING TO GET DONE AND CONGRESS

BETWEEN NOW AND ELECTION DAY, FORGET ABOUT IT.

ANYTHING THAT IS A ROADBLOCK IS PROBABLY GOING TO PUT IN THE

LIGHT OF, OH, REPUBLICANS RALLYING AROUND DONALD TRUMP.

BY THE WAY, REPUBLICANS WOULD HAVE EXPECTED TO RALLY AROUND

DONALD TRUMP. WE SAW BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2023

WHEN THE INDICTMENTS STARTED THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS AT HIS

LOWEST. HE WAS LOSING TO RON DESANTIS IN PRIMARY NUMBERS AS

FAR AS POLLING GOES. ALL OF A SUDDEN, ONE

INDICTMENT, RALLY AROUND DONALD TRUMP.

TWO INDICTMENTS, RALLY AROUND DONALD TRUMP.

IT WILL PLAY OUT THE REST OF THE SUMMER.

SUMMER IS KIND OF THE DEAD SPOT IN PRIMARIES RIGHT NOW.

ALL ATTENTION WILL START TO FOCUS ON THIS DEBATE AT THE END

OF JUNE. KAILEY: AT THE END OF THE SUMMER, RICK,

IT IS QUICKLY SEPTEMBER AND SEPTEMBER 30 IS A FUNDING

DEADLINE.

JIM JORDAN, THE CHAIR OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, SUBMITTED

LEGISLATE PROPOSALS TO DEFUND WHAT HE CALLED LAWFARE.

IS THIS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN BATTLE,

WHETHER OR NOT THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OR THOSE LOOKING INTO

TRUMP CAN GET FUNDED? IS THAT THE LEGISLATIVE

CONSEQUENCE? RICK: I DON'T THINK SO.

THIS IS A CONGRESS THAT WILL BE VERY HIGHLY POLITICIZED.

OTHER THAN THE NATIONAL DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION ACT THAT IS

NICELY MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE,

EVERYTHING ELSE IS BASICALLY BEING PUT ON HOLD.

IT IS NOT LIKE ANYTHING ELSE IS RUSHING TO GET TO A DEADLINE.

THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE HAVE NOT MADE A SEPTEMBER SPENDING

DEADLINE IN A DECADE. LET'S NOT HOLD OUR BREATH AND

THINK ANYTHING WILL DERAIL THAT. IT IS ALREADY DERAILED. JOE:

THE FACTOR IS CLOSED. COMING UP, A JURY IS SELECTED

IN HUNTER BIDEN'S GOING TRIAL JUST BEGINNING TODAY.

RICK AND JEANNE WILL BE BACK WITH US TO TALK ABOUT THE

IMPLICATIONS NEXT.

>> I THINK IT IS A STRONG CASE AND NOTHING HUNTER BIDEN'S

GOOSE I S COOKED. DID HE KNOWINGLY BUY A FIREARM

AS AN ABUSER END USER OF A SUBSTANCE?

HE BOUGHT THE GUN IN 2019. HE WAS ALREADY A USER AND

ABUSER, AS CHRONICLED IN HIS BOOK. EVERYONE KNOWS IT. JOE:

THAT WAS ATTORNEY WITH US ON THE EARLY EDITION OF BALANCE OF

POWER TALKING ABOUT THE HUNTER BIDEN GUN CASE.

THE TRIAL UNDERWAY. THE JURY IS SELECTED.

BACK WITH US IS OUR POLITICAL PANEL, RICK AND JEANNE.

GOOD TO SEE YOU BOTH AGAIN.

JEANNE, IT IS NEVER GOOD WHEN DANNY KAREN SAYS ON TV THAT

YOUR GOOSE IS COOKED. WHAT DOES IT MATTER POLITICALLY

FOR JOE BIDEN? JEANNE: IT IS A VERY TOUGH DAY FOR JOE

BIDEN AND I THINK PERSONALLY, THE ENTIRE FAMILY MORE THAN

ANYTHING. WE HAVE SEEN THEM HUGGING

HUNTER BIDEN VERY CLOSE JUST OVER THE LAST WEEKEND, GOING TO

CHURCH TOGETHER, BIKING. THE FIRST LADY IN THE COURTROOM

WITH HIM TODAY. THIS IS VERY TOUGH FOR THEM.

HUNTER BIDEN IS AN ADMITTED ADDICT.

HE WAS IN RECOVERY AT THE TIME OF THIS PURCHASE.

I THINK THE ATTORNEY IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THERE IS PROBABLY A GOOD DEAL OF EVIDENCE FOR THEM TO GET HIM

CONVICTED ON THIS AND I THINK THE PRESIDENT IS FEELING LIKE

ANY PARENT WOULD ABOUT THIS. AS HE SAID, I AM A FATHER, I

LOVE MY SON. I SUPPORT HIM COMPLETELY.

I AM ALSO PRESIDENT. SO, HE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO

WATCH THIS VERY CAREFULLY, BUT I DO BELIEVE HUNTER BIDEN,

UNLESS THE DEFENSE IS ABLE TO FIND A WAY TO SHOW HE DIDN'T

CHECK THAT BOX IS GOING TO PROBABLY BE CONVICTED OF THESE

CHARGES. IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO IMAGINE

THERE'S A WAY AROUND THIS LEGALLY. KAILEY:

OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE SOME DIFFERENCES HERE BETWEEN THIS

TRIAL AND THE TRIAL OF DONALD TRUMP.

ONE BEING THAT HUNTER BIDEN IS NOT RUNNING FOR ANY KIND OF

ELECTED OFFICE. HE'S THE SON OF THE PRESIDENT,

NOT TRYING TO BE ONE HIMSELF, BUT DOES THIS MAKE IT HARDER

FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN TO CAST SO MUCH ATTENTION TOWARDS TRUMP'S

CONVICTION IF HIS SON COULD END UP CONVICTED OF A FELONY AS

WELL? RICK:

I THINK THE TRUMP CONVICTION SWARMS OVER EVERYTHING.

IT IS THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY A FORMER PRESIDENT HAS EVER

BEEN CONVICTED OF A CRIME.

THERE HAVE BEEN ALL KINDS OF SONS, DAUGHTERS, FAMILY NUMBERS

OF PRESIDENTS THAT HAVE DONE BAD THINGS AND NO ONE CARED

ABOUT IT. IN THE LARGER SCHEME OF THINGS,

I THINK THE HUNTER BIDEN THEY WILL BE A DISTRACTION.

IT DOES KIND OF FREEZE UP THINGS.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IT THIS WEEK RIGHT AFTER A MAJOR

CONVICTION OF THE PRESIDENT FOR THESE 34 COUNTS.

SO, IT DOES KIND OF PUT A BLANKET OVER THE CAMPAIGN.

I WOULD SAY THIS IS THE TIME OF YEAR, THE SUMMER WHERE VOTERS

TAKE A BREAK. THEY ARE REALLY NOT PAYING

ATTENTION MUCH TO WHAT'S GOING ON.

IF YOU HAD A TIMETABLE, IF YOU ARE THE DEMOCRATS AND TRUMP

TRYING TO SAY WINDOW I WANT TO GO OUT AND GET CONVICTED OF

SOMETHING, NOW IS THE TIME. THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH DO

PEOPLE REALLY CARE ABOUT IT? I WOULD DOUBT THIS WOULD HAVE A

BIG IMPACT, BUT THIS ELECTION WILL BE ON SUCH SMALL MARGINS.

100,000 PEOPLE, 50,000 PEOPLE, THAT IT DOES NOT TAKE MUCH TO

HAVE AN IMPACT ON THIS ELECTION. JOE: WE JUST HAVE A MINUTE.

JEANNE, YOU MENTIONED THE PERSONAL TRIAL THAT THIS IS FOR

THE BIDEN FAMILY. WE SAW THE FIRST LADY IN THE

COURTROOM TODAY. TO THE EXTENT THAT JOE AND JILL

BIDEN STICK WITH THEIR SON, IS THAT NOT SOMETHING THAT VOTERS

WOULD REWARD? JEANNE: I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL

REWARD IT, BUT I DO THINK THEY WILL SEE JOE BIDEN AND THE

FIRST LADY AS VERY HUMAN. SO MANY OF US KNOW PEOPLE THAT

HAVE STRUGGLED WITH ADDICTION. THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT.

AND JILL BIDEN HAS MADE THAT CASE.

I THINK PEOPLE WILL SAY THE HUMAN SIDE OF HIM. KAILEY:

JEANNE AND RICK, OUR SIGNATURE POLITICAL PANEL, THANK YOU SO

MUCH. FOR MORE COVERAGE OF THE HUNTER

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