What Happens When A TCG Loses Collectors, Investors, and Flippers?

Summary

The video discusses the Bang Dream Girls Band Party premium booster box and trial deck, focusing on the challenges faced by collectors, investors, and flippers. It highlights the limited availability and high prices of certain cards on TCGPlayer. The video also touches on the broader market trends for anime card games, mentioning sets like Chainsaw Man and Spy Family, and advises viewers on strategies for purchasing and collecting cards. The presenter emphasizes the importance of budgeting and making informed decisions to avoid disappointment.

Takeaways

• 📦 The Bang Dream Girls Band Party premium booster box and trial deck are in high demand and have sold out quickly, with some cases fetching prices over $1000.
• 💸 There's a significant price disparity between different types of cards within the Bang Dream set, with SPs like Lisa's selling for $300 and Yukina's just below at $299.99.
• 🚫 Due to limited supply and high demand, some Bang Dream cards are not readily available, leading to a situation where collectors and investors are avoiding the set.
• 🎨 The art and foiling on the Bang Dream cards, especially the bdrs (presumably a type of special card), are highlighted as being particularly appealing and valuable.
• 📉 Some cards, like those from the Guilty Gear set, have seen a significant drop in value, with SPs available for as low as $7.99.
• 🛍️ The speaker advises that for future sets, especially those with uncertain demand like Bang Dream, it may be wise to pre-order a playset to ensure obtaining desired cards.
• 🔥 Other sets mentioned, such as Chainsaw Man and Spy Family, have done well due to a combination of strong IP following and playability, unlike some other sets that struggled.
• 🤔 The script suggests that the days of relying on investors, collectors, and flippers to open sets and sell cards at a loss are over, indicating a shift in the market dynamics.
• 💡 The importance of considering the potential demand and supply of a set before investing in it is emphasized, as some sets like Guilty Gear have underperformed.
• 🎲 The speaker mentions that some cards, especially those with playability, can be expensive due to their utility in the game, not just their collectability.
• 🤝 The video concludes with a reminder to enjoy life and spend within one's budget, suggesting alternative ways to spend money beyond card collecting.

Q & A

What is the main topic discussed in the video script?

The main topic discussed in the video script is the impact on the market and collectors of certain anime card sets, specifically focusing on the Bang Dream Girls Band Party premium booster box and trial deck, and the consequences for investors, collectors, and flippers.

Why does the speaker feel bad about referring to certain IPs as 'dead beats'?

The speaker feels bad because they love Bang Dream, but they use the term 'dead beats' to describe less popular IPs that are not performing well in the market, which might sound harsh or negative.

What is the situation with the Bang Dream premium booster box on TCG Player?

The Bang Dream premium booster box is completely sold out on TCG Player, with some cases having been sold for $1,150, and individual booster boxes listed for $494 with very few listings available.

What is the significance of the SP cards in the Bang Dream set?

The SP (Super Premium) cards in the Bang Dream set are significant because they are highly sought after and have limited availability, which drives up their value and desirability among collectors.

Why does the speaker mention the disparity in prices between different versions of the same card, such as Yuki?

The speaker mentions the disparity in prices to highlight the unpredictable nature of the market and the wide range of values that can be assigned to different versions of the same card, which can be influenced by factors like rarity, demand, and playability.

What is the speaker's opinion on the Bang Dream cards' supply and demand situation?

The speaker believes that the supply of Bang Dream cards is too low to meet the demand, which is causing prices to rise and making it difficult for collectors and players to obtain the cards they want.

What lesson does the speaker suggest for collectors and players regarding new sets?

The speaker suggests that collectors and players should consider pre-ordering play sets when they are interested in a new release to avoid disappointment and high prices due to limited availability.

What is the situation with the Licor Recoil set mentioned in the script?

The Licor Recoil set had a mix of signed and unsigned SSP cards, which led to some collectors and investors avoiding the set to prevent potential losses. This resulted in fewer people opening the set and a higher price for the double rares that were opened.

Why does the speaker compare the Bang Dream situation to other TCG sets like Chainsaw Man and Spy Family?

The speaker compares Bang Dream to other TCG sets to illustrate the differences in market performance and collector interest. Sets like Chainsaw Man, which have a large following and playability, perform better in the market, while others like Spy Family, despite not having as much playability, still manage to sell decently.

What advice does the speaker give for collectors who are disappointed with the current state of certain sets?

The speaker advises collectors to either look for play sets if they are interested in a particular set, consider other sets or TCGs that might be more satisfying, or even take the money they would have spent on cards and use it for other enjoyable experiences.

Outlines

00:00

🎉 Bang Dream Card Market Analysis

The script discusses the state of the market for Bang Dream Girls Band Party cards, specifically the Countdown Collection Premium Booster Box and the trial deck. It highlights the scarcity of these products, with the premium booster box being sold out at a high price of $1150 and individual booster boxes listed for $494 with limited availability. The script also covers the high demand for certain special cards, such as the Lisa SP, which sold for $300, and the Yukina SP at $299.99. The narrator expresses concern for collectors, investors, and flippers due to the limited supply and high prices, suggesting that pre-ordering might be necessary for fans to secure these cards.

05:02

📉 Supply and Demand Dynamics in Trading Card Games

This paragraph delves into the consequences of a low supply and high demand for specific cards within the TCG (Trading Card Game) market. It uses the example of Bang Dream and Licorice Re:coil to illustrate how a lack of available cards can lead to inflated prices, especially for sought-after cards like the Yukina and the triple rares. The script also touches on the reprints and their impact on prices, as well as the importance of pre-ordering to avoid disappointment. It concludes with a discussion on the unpredictability of the market and the risks associated with investing in certain card sets.

10:02

🤔 Reflections on the Trading Card Game Market

The script reflects on the current state of the trading card game market, focusing on the challenges faced by collectors and investors due to low supply and high demand. It mentions specific examples such as the Guilty Gear set, which failed to meet expectations despite its potential, and the Saon set, which had some valuable cards but overall underperformed. The narrator advises on the importance of being cautious with investments in card sets and the need to adapt to market changes, suggesting that the days of relying on investors to drive sales may be over.

15:02

💡 Lessons Learned and Future Considerations for Card Collectors

The final paragraph offers advice and lessons for collectors and investors in the trading card game market. It emphasizes the importance of pre-ordering sets to secure cards and the need to be aware of market trends and the popularity of different sets. The script also suggests considering alternative spending options, such as enjoying time with friends and family, instead of investing in potentially disappointing card sets. It concludes with a reminder to stay within budget and to have fun, whether collecting cards or pursuing other hobbies.

Keywords

💡Bang Dream

Bang Dream is a multimedia project that includes anime, music, and card games. In the script, it refers to a specific card game based on the Bang Dream franchise. The video discusses the impact of the Bang Dream card game on collectors, investors, and players, highlighting how certain card sets have become scarce and valuable, such as the premium booster box selling out at high prices.

💡TCG Player

TCG Player is an online marketplace for trading card games. The script mentions it as a platform where the supply and demand of Bang Dream cards are observed, with some cards having very few listings or being completely sold out, indicating their rarity and value within the market.

💡Premium Booster Box

A premium booster box is a special set of booster packs for a trading card game, often containing rarer cards or special editions. In the context of the video, the Bang Dream premium booster box is mentioned as being sold out and highly sought after, with some cases selling for over $1000.

💡Trial Deck

A trial deck is a pre-constructed deck of cards that is typically used for introductory purposes or for players to try out a new set or theme within a trading card game. The script discusses the Bang Dream trial deck, noting its scarcity and the difficulty for players who did not pre-order it.

💡SPs (Super Promos)

SPs, or Super Promos, are special promotional cards that are often rarer and more valuable than standard cards in a trading card game. The video script highlights the value of certain SPs from the Bang Dream set, such as the Lisa SP being priced at $300, indicating their desirability among collectors.

💡Supply and Demand

Supply and demand is an economic principle where the availability of a product (supply) affects its price and the desire for it (demand). The script discusses the imbalance in supply and demand for Bang Dream cards, with certain cards having very limited supply and high demand, leading to increased prices.

💡Investor

In the context of trading card games, an investor is someone who purchases cards with the intention of selling them at a higher price in the future. The video script mentions the 'death of the investor' in relation to Bang Dream, suggesting that the scarcity of cards has made it unattractive for investors due to the risk of not being able to sell them at a profit.

💡Flipper

A flipper is a term used to describe someone who buys an item and quickly resells it for a profit, often without significant delay. The script talks about the impact of flippers on the market for Bang Dream cards, and how the limited supply has affected their ability to make a profit.

💡RARITY

Rarity in trading card games refers to the frequency at which certain cards appear in booster packs or sets. The script discusses the rarity of Bang Dream cards, noting that some cards seem to have very few copies available, contributing to their high value and collectability.

💡Playability

Playability refers to how useful or viable cards are within the competitive play of a trading card game. The video script mentions that some cards are expensive not only because of their rarity or artwork but also because they are highly playable and sought after by competitive players.

💡Collector

A collector in the context of trading card games is someone who acquires cards for their personal collection, often focusing on completeness or specific themes. The script suggests that the scarcity of certain Bang Dream cards has negatively impacted collectors, as they may not be able to complete their collections due to the limited availability.

Highlights

Discussion on the death of The Collector, investor, and flipper in the context of less popular trading card games.

Bang Dream Girls Band Party premium booster box and trial deck's scarcity and high prices on TCG player.

Individual booster boxes for Bang Dream selling at $494 with limited listings.

Lisa SP card selling for $300, slightly higher than Yukina's $299.99.

Limited supply of SP cards in cases, with only 10 available at most.

Bang Dream's fancy versions (bdrs) featuring foiling and shiny art.

Cards' playability contributes to their high prices in the market.

Wide array of prices for different versions of the same card, like Yuki's normal version and bdr.

Reprint cards like ARA have brought down the price of the original versions.

Kumi's reprint in the premium booster box causing disappointment due to limited availability.

PRS and triple rares from trial decks having limited stock and selling out quickly.

Lack of demand and supply issues for certain sets like Guilty Gear, leading to low SP prices.

Saon set's lack of sales and cards being pulled off TCG player for sale elsewhere.

Advice on learning from bad sets and considering preordering a playset for desired cards.

Comparison of different sets' sales and popularity, like Chainsaw Man and Spy Family.

Recommendation to spend money on experiences rather than disappointing card sets.

Transcripts

welcome back my anime cards loving

people out there today going be talking

about bang Dream Girls Band Party

countdown collection premium booster box

and bang dream M go trial deck that is

really really long today I'm going to be

focusing on the death of The Collector

investor and flipper when it comes to

these dead beat IPS I I feel really bad

for saying that because I love bang

dream it's just how about that instead

of dead be maybe less popular one as you

can see out here on TCG player there's

going to be some amazing things going on

you're going to look at the screen and

be like what the heck is going on with

the supply and there is some very good

reasons for that but if you take a look

the case of the premium booster boack

completely sold out and it sold out for

1150 there was another case on here for

1,400 but the seller pulled it back now

if you take a look here you also see

individual booster boxes for $494

there are only three listings of that

one display for 102 and six listings of

the trial deck that is very sparse out

there good luck to the people that

wanted some of this stuff and didn't

pre-order it it's one of those ones

where maybe you thought there was going

to be a ton of this stuff out there and

there is a bunch of cards that people

wanted and unfortunately they're finding

out that this was not the right play if

you wanted bang dream if you didn't then

this is totally not worth it to you but

if you take a look here on bang dream

the SPs the most amazing part that some

people will see here is Lisa actually

beat out yukina by 1 cent you have Lisa

SP selling for

$300 yukina

$299.99 1 too low unfortunately for un

but congratulations those that love Lisa

the more important part about this if

you just take a look these are the SPs

you got four inside of a case and what

you're going to notice is there's some

of course that's sold out but at the

same time when you take a look through

here there's some that didn't even

actually have any in stock there are

some on here that only have one

available and you think about this the

set came out not too long ago right if I

take a look at Pokemon there's going to

be some wuss out there I don't even want

to say wuss they they're pretty young

and they're people that are saying it

it's kind of weird and disturbing to me

but hey whatever we're looking at anime

cards and people could just say the same

thing about these but you can see Sy

here has three listings only now mocha

over there has none and the cool part

about bang dream if you into this whole

Rarity thing you don't even have to slap

a serial number on here because for the

most part it always seems like there is

only 10 available at most out there in

the world because some are sitting in

warehouses or some just never got

printed moving on though we take a look

at the bdrs these fancy versions if you

have not seen some of the looks of these

cards go out to my ex check it out and

you will see the Arisa and you'll see

the yukina the cool part about them is

they have some foiling on there they're

shiny it looks really cool the art in

this set is really nice and the other

side of it is as people know it is

playable because we got some reprints

inside of here as you could see with

this Arisa as you could see with this

Kumi I mean like a bunch of these CS why

they're expensive is because of their

playability some people bought these

because they love the art but overall if

you take a look through the bdrs the

same story happens right at most I

thought I saw maybe nine nine on a card

that was listed available that just

means a whole lot of cards are either

out there in the world or just don't

exist now flipping over here to this

Yuki now you could see there's a wide

array of prices and all the card art was

the same again this is reason why I hate

premium booster boxes but you can see

the normal version

$111.99 bdr $44 and the SP as mentioned

before currently sits here

$950 with one sold earlier at $299.99 so

kind of wide gap on the pricing there

now flipping over to this ARA as you can

see what happened here we have out of

stock on the normal you have out of

stock on the SP because it never showed

up there I know it was in other places

it was on here briefly it was on here

briefly and you can see the bdr

$539 cents now if you are upset that you

cannot get that card remember that is a

reprint and the original is actually out

there and the reprint um has brought

down the price so you can see right here

$7 for that irritating girl and there's

actually five copies available uh you

you have moderately played lightly

played and then from there goes the near

near mint again but really more

expensive so you have this Kumi here and

this is the lower rate one I would say

because Audrey thinks that this is the

best artwork when you know the original

which was your happy Christmas Kumi look

at that girl holding a spoon singing

winking got a Christmas hat on there is

nothing wrong with that unfortunately

the only thing wrong with that is the

fact that it's $90 and 6091 respectively

based on the Rarity now you have this

reprint that happened in the bang dring

uh premium booster box that is

completely sold out so some people knew

to get it some people were waiting for

it and it is gone so my point here is if

I just click inside of here there wasn't

even that many to be available to begin

with just take a look at this this card

is sold out and there was only ever six

available on TCG

player really sad actually that this is

all taking place and you take a look at

the normal same idea it's just not a lot

of Supply there's some of these cards

that are expensive look at this one

always by your side Lisa and it's

sitting here at $5 plus 122 shipping

will it actually sell maybe maybe not

depends if people really want this card

I know it does see some usage in the

Decks that I looked out there when I

took a look at Encore deck some people

decided to use it and it is a nice

looking card remember this is the high

seller SP

just because to show you that when you

have a set like this where sellers

avoided actually having it available for

sale where uh buyers wanted to wait for

singles where flippers knew not to get

it where investors like heck no I'm not

doing it and

collectors basically almost non-existent

as you see with the popularity of bang

dream you have a recipe for disaster

which is what this is right here

unfortunately um you also have these PRS

which is interesting because it came

inside of the trial decks uh you can see

there's not that many that were

available and the ones that people

wanted were actually sold out as in this

yukina people bought that uh same thing

with these triple rares I'm not going to

keep going over and over again you're

going to hear me repeat the same thing

uh not many available some were bought

some were sold out and some kind of just

sit here but it's just sad that you see

three so I don't want to dwell on bang

dream forever so what I'm going to do is

move on to Licor recoil because what do

we know from lias recoil uh there was

some signatures that happened to be on

the SSP inside of the booster box

everything else was nons signature and

because of that some people knew like

you know what probably not going to buy

this set we're probably not going to do

this um even though there's a premium

booster box coming out we don't know if

this is going to be good or bad but in

the end people chose not to do it

because why take a loss on the set some

people what they were going to do they

were going to just pick up some of the

double rares and what ended up happening

here was because people decided not to

purchase not to open this you ended up

with really expensive double rares you

have that whole game of chicken that I

like to talk about in videos right are

people going to buy it and take the

gamble on making money if other people

don't buy this set or will they just not

do it and in the end they didn't do it

they're just like you know I'm not going

to do do it there was some Arbitrage

opportunity which is why some of these

double rares came down in priced there

was enough Supply out there that people

could open up the booster box that

people could open a case of this but

when you take a look at bang dream you

would think that there's some

opportunity here but at the same time

there's not enough supply of seal to

actually do it and the seal that exist

currently is expensive you know there

you go you have the case being sold out

you have this showing up booster box

wise

$494 you get it it's one of those ones

where unfortunately for the players that

wanted bang dream you should have

ordered a play set I think that's one of

those ones going forward maybe you want

to think about that's the lesson that

needs to be learned here or you just

take the gamble or you just go you know

what these prices are too high I'm on a

budget and I'm not going to buy it I'll

just look forward to another set and not

to be of those people that are just

skewing this heavily to one side I'm

going to show you another one right we

got chainsaw man this set did really

well why because you had a humongous

following to the IP you have huge

playability you have some cards that

were worth a lot of money and with all

those things going for it it did really

well now the funny part is we all know

that a ban will probably happen at some

point we all know uh what that

restriction actually was and you could

see all these t that are finishing up

and all these people are putting up

these cards for sale so interesting to

see we'll see if there's an uptick in

some of the other cards that were moved

on to after the Restriction but moving

forward here you have spy family as well

with spy family there wasn't like this

tremendous amount of play ability right

like you don't see a ton of spy family

in these Trio tournaments but at the

same time I'm not saying it was bad not

saying that at all but

what you have here is uh some signatures

you have some fake signatures and you

have some no signatures on these cards

as well um it did fairly well when you

compare it to chainsaw man not as great

you have cases of this for 889 99 but

you do have some sales right take a look

at this you have uh 1 two 3 four five

six S 8 9 10 11 Cas sales you want to

take a guess at how many chainsaw man

had cuz there was a decent number yes

take a look at that look I could scroll

I got a scrol e bar so that that was

enough to say that chainsaw man sold

more and then you have Guilty Gear good

Lord Guilty Gear uh Guilty Gear one of

the most heated sets from my point of

view uh of it just showed the laziness

the lack of uh real advertising that

went into it just everything that I can

imagine going wrong with an English

release right in here just just focusing

on this page right $7 for an SP actually

it's $8 to click into it but

$7.99 is the lowest s right you have

these other ones at 10 1047 18 25 19

it's just pretty ugly I would have never

guessed I will be honest with you here I

would have never guess that an SP would

get down that low I know back in the day

you had some examples of that but here

you go here's a modern day example of a

799 SP now you have one more example

here we got saon we know this set wasn't

the greatest playability wise you might

not have need all the cards inside of

the booster box but there were you know

a few that you pick up amazing like if I

hit high to low on TCG player so it

takes a look at the

number this green number right here if

you just take a look you have a foil

that's like the highest selling card on

here you have a a foil PR to be exact

you have a PR the second highest you

have the an Sr that's the third highest

right where's the SPs where the sec's

you know like where where are those

because if I remember correctly there

was some that were really expensive and

I'll show you where they are no

sales not one yet and I will tell you

right away I know what happened on here

some of these cards have been pulled off

this TCG player website and sold on

Facebook and other sellers websites okay

I totally understand that but the other

part is is how many how many

TCG sets do you see actually do this

like seriously think about you know let

let me just go through the list here

magic Yu-Gi-Oh Pokemon Disney larana One

Piece Digimon Flesh and Blood uh other y

War sets how many do you see where the

SPs have no sales freaking review

Starlight even had sales but when you

take a look at Pono no I mean you think

about the price of these cards the lack

of signatures the fact that they had

seral numbers on here I know people out

there said seral numbers totally made up

for the lack of signatures I'm like I

don't know man that's not me I don't I

don't really agree to that one maybe if

you're one of the 80 people that pulled

a a serial number from it you feel that

way but anybody else that actually has

these uh no signature versions I don't

know how they feel at this moment well

actually I can probably guess you know

they they probably were slightly happy

but you know disappointed deep down

inside especially if they attempted to

sell this thing it was not one of those

ones where uh you could get these prices

the funny part is TCG player had a sale

not too long ago or not a sale a promo

credit and if you discount the current

price with that promo credit and people

still didn't buy it that just shows you

how much the lack of demand and the fact

that people have to take these cards off

of TCG player and sell it somewhere else

like you literally don't have a natural

sale that happened on this website for a

site that sells cards is pretty bad I

think we can all agree to that so in

conclusion

here what do I say I think what you need

to learn from this is there's going to

be bad sits out there when it comes to

ybs and the days of sitting here hoping

that investor collector flipper are

going to open it and sell cars because

they're too stupid that they open this

set and going to lose buttloads of money

are over right like you you you have

some of these examples out here that you

know what they're not going to do that

and you're going to be the one that's

going to be disappointed when you

realize there's not enough cards out

there to satisfy you your friends and

everybody else that wants these cards so

you're going to have to look to order a

playset and you think about that one the

opportunity that actually is there

remember back then with the backpack

Sellers and all that I do I remember the

hate for like certain backpack sellers

out there on Facebook Global but at this

point you think about it and it's like

those people help bring the price down

but now that they're gone I think some

people are wishing that they're back so

you go forward and take a look at some

of these sets Boi The Rock Premium

booster box like every other Set uh you

have these Chronicle sets that don't

matter you have aashi triangle I guess I

should read it let me just read it I I

know I hate premium booster boxes I

didn't even want to say the name but you

have Ruby shaa love live you got some

ambassadors set for hollow live aashi

triangle you have next we got premium

booster box hollow live collection OSI

noo right when it comes to something

like OSI noo you know that's going to

turn out somewhat in between you know

like you could say chainsaw man maybe

spy family depending on uh uh where you

land on all that but you have premium

booster box JoJo you have Marvel that

doesn't matter and premium wait no not

premium you have thei Buko it feels like

it's premium because it's got two trial

decks and a booster box but there you

are what are you going to do in these

situations you're going to take a look

at these right you're going to see is

this going to be popular is it going to

be a trap are people going to end up

buying it and will I have enough carts

out there to do that and if the answer

is no you should probably start looking

for play sets if you want the single

cards if you cannot afford play sets

maybe you just go you know what it

wasn't meant to be and there's a million

other sets that are coming or you just

say screw it to W Wars and look towards

one piece or Union Arena wherever you

want to go uh there's just uh many

places to spend your money or you just

take your

money and you go out there you call up

your family your friends and say you

know what let's go out to eat tonight

because instead of buying some new card

set and being upset about the price let

me actually have some fun with you and

enjoy my time and my life and with that

as always have fun be happy don't spend

anything outside your budget if you need

anything from me feel free to contact me

here I'll check you all later