Far Right Christian Jayda Fransen is Right About Christianity and Zionism...

The Muslim Metaphysician
22 May 202414:04

Summary

TLDRThe video script discusses the concept of Christian Zionism and its historical context, highlighting that it is a relatively modern development within Christianity. The speaker reviews a clip from an interview with Jada Fransen, a right-wing British Christian nationalist, who criticizes Christian Zionism as a heresy and an oxymoron. The video outlines the historical perspective that Christians did not traditionally support Zionism and that the modern form of the movement has been influenced by the Scofield Reference Bible, which was funded by Zionist Jews and promoted a Zionist interpretation of biblical verses. The speaker also contrasts the views of modern Protestant Evangelicals, who tend to support Zionism, with those of the Catholic and Orthodox Christians, who traditionally have not. The video concludes by emphasizing the importance of understanding the origins and implications of Christian Zionism and encourages viewers to share the content for educational purposes.

Takeaways

  • 📚 The speaker is reviewing a clip from the Five Pillars program featuring an interview with Jada Fransen, a right-wing British Christian nationalist.
  • 🎥 The video discusses the topic of Christian Zionism and its roots, arguing that it is a modern and heretical branch of Christianity.
  • 🕌 The speaker emphasizes that historically, Christianity and Islam both believe that the Jews rejected Jesus as the promised Messiah.
  • 🗝️ The concept of dispensationalism and Christian Zionism is presented as having been introduced and funded by certain groups, notably through the Scofield Reference Bible.
  • 🌏 It is highlighted that the idea of a geographical Israel ended in 70 AD with the dispersion of the Israelite people and the destruction of the temple.
  • 🔍 The video points out that Christian Zionism is a contradiction because Christians believe that they, not the Jews, are the spiritual Israel.
  • 👥 Jada Fransen is quoted as saying that Christian Zionism is an oxymoron and a heresy that takes one out of the Christian faith.
  • 📜 Historical evidence is provided, with the example of Pope Pius X rejecting Theodore Herzl's Zionist movement in 1904.
  • 💡 The video suggests that the shift towards Christian Zionism is largely due to the influence of the Scofield Reference Bible and modern Protestant Evangelical movements.
  • 🕊️ The speaker hopes to educate viewers on the origins of Christian Zionism and to challenge the misconceptions about traditional Christian beliefs regarding Israel.
  • 📢 The video concludes with a call to action for viewers to share the content and support the channel for more informative and educational videos.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of the video script?

    -The main topic of the video script is the critique of Christian Zionism, its origins, and its divergence from traditional Christian beliefs, as discussed in an interview with Jada Fransen.

  • Who is Jada Fransen and what is her stance on Christian Zionism?

    -Jada Fransen is a right-wing British Christian nationalist. She believes that Christian Zionism is an oxymoron and a heresy, stating that it contradicts the teachings of Christianity.

  • What is dispensationalism and how does it relate to Christian Zionism?

    -Dispensationalism is a theological belief system that interprets the Bible as having different 'dispensations' or periods of God's dealing with humanity. It is related to Christian Zionism as it often supports the idea of a literal, physical homeland for Jews in Israel, which is a belief held by some Christian Zionists.

  • What does the speaker claim about the origins of dispensationalism?

    -The speaker claims that dispensationalism was created by Jesuit monks and later came to prominence in England and America, being used to support the Zionist movement.

  • How does the speaker describe the historical Christian position on the identity of Israel?

    -The speaker describes the historical Christian position as one where Christians believed that they, as part of the church, were the new Israel, and that there was no national geographical location called Israel according to the Bible after the dispersion of the people in 70 AD.

  • What was the role of the Scofield Reference Bible in promoting Christian Zionism?

    -The Scofield Reference Bible played a significant role in promoting Christian Zionism by providing a Zionist spin on Bible verses in its footnotes and explanations, thus influencing the interpretation of the Bible towards a dispensationalist eschatology.

  • What did Pope Pius X say to Theodore Herzl when asked for support for the Zionist movement in 1904?

    -Pope Pius X told Theodore Herzl that the Catholic Church could not give approval to the Zionist movement because the Jews had not recognized Jesus Christ as the Lord. He also stated that if Jews settled in Palestine, the Church would be ready to baptize them.

  • How does the speaker describe the shift in Christian attitudes towards Jews and Zionism over time?

    -The speaker describes a historical shift from Christians not being Zionists and often being anti-Semitic in the sense of persecuting Jews, to the modern Protestant Evangelical movement that tends to strongly support Zionism.

  • What is the speaker's view on the current situation regarding Christian support for Zionism?

    -The speaker believes that the current support for Zionism among some Protestant Evangelical Christians is misguided and a result of modern influences, such as the Scofield Reference Bible, rather than traditional Christian beliefs.

  • What does the speaker suggest as a way to counteract the influence of Christian Zionism?

    -The speaker suggests educating Christians about the historical and theological roots of their faith, highlighting that traditional Christian beliefs do not support Zionism and that the modern support for it is a deviation from these roots.

Outlines

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📚 Discussing Dispensationalism and Christian Zionism

This paragraph introduces a critique of dispensationalism and Christian Zionism. The speaker plans to review a clip from the Five Pillars program featuring an interview with Jada Fransen, a right-wing British Christian nationalist. The speaker argues that Christianity has been distorted to align with the Zionist movement, which is a modern development not rooted in traditional Christian beliefs. The paragraph emphasizes that the idea of a physical Israel is not supported by the Bible, as the true Israel is the Church, and the historical Israelite people were dispersed in 70 AD. The speaker also mentions the influence of the Scofield Reference Bible in promoting Christian Zionism, which is seen as a heresy by some, including Jada Franson.

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🎥 Historical Christian Views on Zionism

The speaker continues the discussion by focusing on the historical context of Christian views on Zionism. It is highlighted that early Christians, including Catholics and Orthodox, were not Zionists and did not believe that Jews retained the blessings and promises from the Old Testament. The paragraph provides an account of Theodore Herzl's attempt to gain support for Zionism from Pope Pius X in 1904, which was rejected on the grounds that the Jews had not recognized Jesus Christ as the Messiah. The Pope's response is used to illustrate the traditional Christian stance against Zionism and the intention to convert Jews to Christianity if they settled in Palestine.

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🔄 Shift in Modern Christian Attitudes Towards Zionism

In this paragraph, the speaker discusses the shift in modern Christian attitudes, particularly among Protestant Evangelicals, towards support for Zionism. It is suggested that this shift is largely due to the influence of the Scofield Reference Bible and the Protestant Evangelical movement in the West. The speaker contrasts this with the views of the Catholic Church and many Eastern Orthodox Churches, which have traditionally not supported Zionism. The paragraph also mentions contemporary figures like Pope Francis, who do not outwardly support Zionism, and it highlights the divergence between historical Christian beliefs and the modern Evangelical support for the Zionist state.

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Keywords

💡Five Pillars program

The Five Pillars program appears to be the name of the show or series from which the clip being reviewed in the video is taken. It is likely a reference to a framework or set of principles, possibly related to religious or ideological discussions, given the context of the video content.

💡Imran Hussein

Imran Hussein is mentioned as a person involved in a previous video, suggesting he is a figure of discussion or controversy within the video's theme. His beliefs or statements are likely central to the debate or analysis presented in the video.

💡Jada Fransen

Jada Fransen is identified as a right-wing British Christian nationalist who is interviewed in the clip. Her views on Christian Zionism and the historical stance of Christians on Zionism are central to the video's exploration of the topic.

💡Dispensationalism

Dispensationalism is described as a belief system created by Jesuit monks and later prominent in England and America. It is related to the interpretation of the Bible and the identity of Israel. The video suggests that dispensationalism has been used to support the Zionist movement, which the video argues is contrary to traditional Christian beliefs.

💡Christian Zionism

Christian Zionism is a term used in the video to describe a belief system that supports the establishment of Israel as a Jewish homeland. The video argues that it is a heresy and an oxymoron, suggesting that traditional Christian beliefs do not align with the Zionist movement.

💡Covenant Breakers

The term 'Covenant Breakers' is used to refer to those who rejected the Messiah, in this context, likely the Jews who did not accept Jesus Christ. This concept is tied to the discussion of who holds the promises to Israel and the debate over the identity of modern Israel.

💡Scofield Reference Bible

The Scofield Reference Bible is mentioned as a source that has been used to promote dispensationalism and Christian Zionism. It is described as having been funded by Zionist Jews and as having influenced the interpretation of biblical verses to support a Zionist narrative.

💡Theodore Herzel

Theodore Herzel is recognized as the father of modern Zionism. The video discusses his attempts to gain support for the Zionist movement from Christian figures, specifically Pope Pius X, highlighting the historical opposition of mainstream Christians to Zionism.

💡Pope Pius X

Pope Pius X is mentioned in the context of his response to Theodore Herzel's request for support for Zionism. His rejection of the Zionist movement and his statement about the Catholic Church's position on the Jews and their relationship to Jesus Christ is used to illustrate the historical stance of the Church against Zionism.

💡Orthodox Christians

Orthodox Christians are mentioned in the video as not traditionally being Zionists. The video suggests that their beliefs align more with the rejection of the idea that Jews still hold the promises to Israel, which is a central point of contention in the debate over Christian Zionism.

💡Evangelical Christians

Evangelical Christians are identified in the video as a group that has been influenced by the Scofield Reference Bible and modern Protestantism to support Zionism. The video contrasts this with the historical stance of Orthodox and Catholic Christians, suggesting a shift in belief within certain Protestant circles.

Highlights

Review of a clip from the Five Pillars program featuring an interview with Jada Fransen, a right-wing British Christian nationalist.

Discussion on the bastardization of Christianity and its ties with the Zionist movement through dispensationalism.

Dispensationalism was created by Jesuit monks and later came to prominence in England and America.

The Bible is clear on Israel; Christ is Israel, and the church is Israel, with no national geographical location called Israel.

People of Israel were dispersed in 70 AD, marking the end of Israel as a geographical entity.

Christian Zionism is considered a heresy and an oxymoron by some Christians, including Jada Franson.

Historically, Christians did not believe that Jews still had the blessings and promises to Israel from the Old Testament.

Christians traditionally believed the church replaced the Jews in a spiritual sense.

Theodore Herzel sought support for Zionism from Christians in the early 20th century.

Pope Pius X's rejection of Zionism in 1904, stating the Catholic Church could not support the movement.

Christians were not always Zionists, and many were historically anti-Semitic, persecuting Jews.

The shift in Christian attitudes towards Zionism is attributed to the influence of the Scofield Reference Bible.

The Scofield Reference Bible, funded by Zionist Jews, promoted a Zionist interpretation of the Bible.

Many modern Protestant Evangelical Christians in the US are strong supporters of Zionism.

Some Protestants, like Jada Franson, reject Christian Zionism and dispensationalism.

The video emphasizes the importance of understanding the historical context of Christian views on Zionism.

Call to action for viewers to subscribe, engage, and share the video for educational purposes.

Transcripts

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in today's episode guys I'm going to

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review another clip from the Five

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Pillars program but it's going to be an

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entirely different interview so you guys

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who had enough with the previous video

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with Imran Hussein no problem whatsoever

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if you still disagree with me well

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that's pretty strange you might want to

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check your Islam as well if you don't

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consider someone who believes that

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Orthodox Christians are not kufar then

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you probably got to problem uh with your

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own Dean I'm going to play a clip here

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from a totally different interview um

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which was with a woman that Dilly had a

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conversation in interview with for

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people who don't know her her name is

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Jada fransen she's basically a

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right-wing uh British Christian

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nationalist um I'm not saying that to

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degrade her or misrepresent her that

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came out very clearly in their I think

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it was like two or three hour interview

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but there was a small section from the

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interview that I wanted to play and

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highlight and briefly offer my own

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thoughts uh regarding what she had to

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say because again there's this whole

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bastardization of Christianity which

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ties in with the Zionist movement at the

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moment this dispensationalism which was

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um created was actually um something

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that was created by Jesuit monks and

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then um it came to prominence in England

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and there was a guy in Scotland Irving

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and then there was a another chat in

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England and the Plymouth revering and

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they took it to America it's

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dispensationalism the the Bible is clear

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on Israel the ident if anybody's

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questioning the identity of Israel

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Christ is Israel I am Israel as part of

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the church church is Israel there is no

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National geographical location called

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Israel according to the Bible those

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people were dispersed in 70 AD the

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temple came down Jerusalem was destroyed

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and the people were scattered throughout

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the Earth and so was the end of Israel

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the Israelite people people the Covenant

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Breakers those who rejected the Messiah

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gone finish done this is a man-made

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structure and it's infiltrated the

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church through this um this these these

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Jews that funded the scoffield reference

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Bible and that's why we've got this

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heretical branch of Christianity

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dispensationalism Christian Zionism

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Christian Zionism total oxymoron

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absolute oxymoron but and there are some

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things that we can disagree on like as a

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reformed Christian I am a um a ped

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Baptist this woman Jada fransen uh very

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clearly said that Christian Zionism is

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an oxymoron it's a heresy it's something

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that's

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non-negotiable uh she basically sees it

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as something that would uh essentially

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take you out of the faith of

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Christianity you cannot actually be a

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Christian Zionist and she explains very

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briefly and correctly that Christians

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weren't always zionists right the

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Catholics and the Orthodox

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um and even early Protestants were not

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zionists they were not people who

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believed that the Jews were still had

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the blessings and

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Promises uh to Israel from the Old

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Testament they believed that the church

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or the Christians basically replaced the

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Jews in a way and as she said that's

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because from their perspective the Jews

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rejected Jesus as the promised Messiah

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which both Christianity and Islam except

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now we believe indifference to the

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Christians they that they went too far

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by worshiping and idolizing the Messiah

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in ways that were not appropriate by

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saying that he was the second person in

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the Trinity and God In the Flesh and he

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died for our sins and all this kind of

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business we don't believe that that's

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not our concept of Jesus as the Messiah

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nevertheless she's Ro right to point out

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that historically speaking the

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Christians did not believe that the Jews

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were still having the Covenant with God

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and the promises to Israel were to the

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Jews and they need to establish a

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literal physical Homeland in so-called

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Israel that's not been traditionally the

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Christian position in fact when Theodore

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Herzel in the early 20th century was

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actually looking for uh support he was

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trying to find Christians that would

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support him now I just want to read to

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you guys to to as a quick demonstration

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of what I mean that even up to the early

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20th century that mainstream Christians

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were not zionists they didn't believe in

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the Zionist movement they weren't

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dispensationalists which is a form of uh

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eschatology and that Jada Franson is

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right to point out that a lot of this

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was due to What's called the scoffield

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reference Bible which was a Bible that

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in the um in the footnotes and in the

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sort of Tere or explanation of different

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verses in the Bible it gave a Zionist

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spin it gave a dispensationalist

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eschatology and claiming that all these

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promises to Israel were supposed to be

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fulfilled and you know creating the

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modern state of Israel and all these

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kind of things it gave basically a

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Zionist spin on verses in the Bible that

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had not traditionally been interpreted

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that way and one example or proof of

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this is that when Theodore Herzel would

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of course Zionism in terms of its modern

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form started from people like Theodore

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Herzel who was a secularist who was not

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an orthodox uh Jew who didn't believe

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strictly speaking in God and the Bible

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but nevertheless he was looking for

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support in his early attempts at uh

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starting this movement and he went to

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very popular prominent Christian figures

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now one of those figures that he went to

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was Pope Pas I 10th and this is in 1904

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and we still have the records of this so

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Theodore Herzel went to go visit Pope

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piest I 10th and to try to Garner

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support from him because of course the

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pope is the head of the Catholic church

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has a lot of power and especially during

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back in those times uh both politically

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and financially and all of those kind of

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things and of course if the pope is

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supporting um the zionists and the state

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of Israel then of course many Catholics

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would as well who make up over 50% of

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Christians today now what does Pope Pi

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the 10th say to in response to Theodore

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Herzel when he tries to get him to

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support the Zionist movement this is

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what he said he said we cannot give

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approval to this Movement we can't give

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approval to Zionism very clearly right

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out from the get we cannot give approval

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to this Movement we cannot prevent the

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Jews from going to Jerusalem because at

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the time they didn't control it right

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but we could never sanction it meaning

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we're not going to get behind you and

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try to kick out the Palestinians and the

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Muslims and even the Christian

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Palestinians who are leaving there

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living there at the time we can't get

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behind this Zionist movement we can

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never sanction it the soil of Jerusalem

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if it was not always sacred has been

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Sanctified by the life of Jesus Christ

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as the head of the church I cannot tell

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you anything different this is what the

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pope is telling to Theodore Herzel the

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father of the modern Zionist movement

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the Jews have not recognized our Lord

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therefore we cannot recog recognize the

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Jewish people and so if you come to

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Palestine remember he said we can't stop

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you but if you do come to Palestine and

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settle your people there we shall have

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churches and Priests ready to baptize

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all of you so he said look first of all

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we don't support your Zionist movement

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why because you guys rejected Jesus

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Christ as the Messiah we can't stop you

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from coming there because we don't

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control that territory but if you do

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come there we plan on having priests and

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churches there ready and Priests ready

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to baptize you to become Christians now

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does that sound like somebody who is a

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Zionist does that sound like a Christian

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who is supporting Zionism of course not

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so when Jada Franson says that Christian

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Zionism is basically a contradiction in

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terms because we can't support these

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zionists they don't have the promises of

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Israel from the Old Testament the

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Christians believe that Jesus and the

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modern Christians are the ones who are

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fulfilling that role not the zionists

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not the Jews who rejected Jesus who

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rejected him as the Messiah no so just

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like Jada Franson said in that interview

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the pope said back in 1904 in response

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to Theodore Herzel when he was trying to

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get support from the pope he said we do

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not support you and if you show up we're

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going to be ready to baptize you and put

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you guys in the churches now obviously I

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don't support that at all as a Muslim

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but that's just to show that tradition

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and historically Christians were not

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zionists and in fact it can even be

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argued that many Christians were

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actually anti-semites not in the way

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that the zionists call anybody who

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supports doesn't support Zionism as an

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anti-semite but in reality of actually

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persecuting Jews actually uh killing

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them many many terrible things that

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especially the Catholic um States at the

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time and Catholic Empires at the time

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Roman Empire actually persecuted the

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Jews in which they fled and went to

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Muslim lands because uh Muslim lands

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were more protecting and um basically

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more open to the Jews being there rather

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than the Christian so not only were they

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not zionists they were completely

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anti-zionists and could even be argued

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many times historically that they were

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anti-semites now today that's completely

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shifted uh not actually I shouldn't say

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completely because just like the Pope in

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19 04 even Pope Francis today is at

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least outwardly not um accepting of

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Zionism and what's happening in

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Palestine so even the Catholic church

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and many Eastern Orthodox Orthodox that

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we you know uh Imran Hussein wrongly

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thinks are not kufar but that's you know

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from the previous video nevertheless uh

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Orthodox and Catholics for the most part

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today are still not zionists unless

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they're just misinformed and don't

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understand their actual religion and

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their Pope and what their religious

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figures are even saying today but it's

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this Protestant Evangelical movement

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that started in the west through things

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like the scoffield Bible that was funded

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by zionists right Jewish Bankers funded

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this project and this you can look this

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up and unfortunately they spread that

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through the churches and through Western

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Protestant academic circles and it wound

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up being preached and unfortunately

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that's why many in the US these

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Protestant Evangelical Christians tend

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to be zionists to the point where

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they're even breeding cows for these

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Zionist Jews to fulfill what they think

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are uh and they need to sacrifice these

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special red heers in Israel in order to

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establish you know the second coming of

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Christ and the Third Temple and all

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these other wacky ideas it's mostly all

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these Protestant Evangelical types who

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are just out of their minds in support

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of the modern Zionist state but anyway I

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thought that was important to highlight

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there were many things of course in the

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interview that Muslims would not agree

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with Jada fransen but I thought this was

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an important point to highlight to show

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that look where did this movement come

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from Modern protestantism scoffield

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Bible supported by the Zionist Jews it's

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not a conspiracy theory many Christians

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have opened up and admitted this I've

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been did a video on James White where he

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came out very strongly criticizing the

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modern Zionist State and the fact that

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he doesn't believe in this

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dispensationalism and this idea that um

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the Jews are actually those who are

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going to uh receive all the promises and

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blessings on that talk that are talked

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about with respect to Israel in the Old

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Testament no he doesn't believe that so

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there are some Protestants even that are

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rejecting this like Jada Franson who is

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a Protestant uh but historically the

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Orthodox and the Catholics did not

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believe in this uh Zionist nonsense and

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even uh the Protestants but

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unfortunately through the modern

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Protestant movement in the 20th century

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you had things like the Scofield bible

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that were promoting Zionist ideas which

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eventually eventually crept into the

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Evangelical mindset but that being said

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is at the GoFundMe link which is pinned

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at the top of the description of this

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video as well as my other video but

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until next time guys inshallah

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