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Clownfish TV
5 May 202412:40

Summary

TLDRDans cette vidéo de Clownish TV, l'animateur Neon et sa co-animateur Sparkles discutent de l'intégration croissante de l'IA dans Photoshop, un sujet controversé parmi les artistes numériques. Ils abordent les réactions négatives des artistes à cette évolution, qui remet en question l'authenticité et la créativité de leur travail. La discussion met en lumière les défis de la reconnaissance des artistes face à l'utilisation de l'IA, et les implications pour les outils de création tels que Clip Studio Paint et d'autres alternatives. L'épisode soulève des questions sur l'avenir de la création artistique et le rôle de l'IA dans le processus créatif.

Takeaways

  • 🎨 Adobe Photoshop ajoute des outils AI pour créer de l'art, suscitant des réactions mitigées parmi les artistes.
  • 🤔 Les artistes s'interrogent sur l'impact de l'IA sur leur travail et leur créativité.
  • 🔧 Les outils AI de Photoshop permettent de retoucher et d'étendre des images de manière plus rapide et efficace.
  • 🚫 Certains artistes voient cette évolution comme une menace pour leur métier et leur créativité.
  • 👨‍🎨 L'IA est incorporée dans Photoshop, un outil utilisé par la majorité des artistes pour l'art numérique.
  • 🤖 Les artistes s'inquiètent de ne plus être reconnus pour leur travail, étant donné que l'IA peut créer des œuvres similaires.
  • 🖼️ Photoshop propose de nouvelles fonctionnalités telles que la suppression automatique d'arrière-plans qui économise du temps pour les créateurs.
  • 📉 La réaction négative à l'intégration de l'IA dans Photoshop pourrait menacer la base d'utilisateurs d'Adobe.
  • 📱 D'autres logiciels concurrents comme Clip Studio Paint et Procreate sont mentionnés comme alternatives à Photoshop.
  • 💬 Les utilisateurs prônent le piratage des produits Adobe en réaction au développement de l'IA dans Photoshop.
  • 🔄 L'évolution rapide de l'IA dans le domaine artistique soulève des questions sur les droits des artistes et la propriété intellectuelle.

Q & A

  • Quel est le sujet principal abordé dans le script de la vidéo ?

    -Le sujet principal du script est l'intégration de l'IA dans Photoshop et son impact sur les artistes et les utilisateurs de Photoshop.

  • Quels outils d'IA Adobe a-t-elle ajouté à Photoshop ?

    -Adobe a ajouté des outils d'IA tels que le remplissage génératif AI et des filtres neuronaux, ainsi que de nouvelles fonctionnalités pour créer de l'art entièrement à partir de prompts.

  • Quels sont les sentiments des artistes numériques à l'égard de l'IA intégrée dans Photoshop ?

    -Les sentiments sont mitigés, avec certains artistes étant contre l'utilisation de l'IA car ils pensent que cela nuit à leur travail et à leur capacité à gagner leur vie.

  • Pourquoi les utilisateurs de Photoshop pourraient-ils avoir des difficultés à prouver l'originalité de leur travail ?

    -Comme l'IA a été formée sur des œuvres d'art préexistantes, il peut être difficile de prouver que le travail est original si l'exportation se fait simplement en tant que fichier Photoshop.

  • Quels sont les avantages que l'IA apporte à Photoshop, selon le script ?

    -L'IA peut être utile pour ajuster des images, améliorer des photos, éliminer automatiquement les fonds et accélérer certaines tâches fastidieuses, économisant ainsi du temps pour les artistes.

  • Quel est l'argument de l'hôte de la vidéo contre l'utilisation excessive de l'IA dans la création artistique ?

    -L'argument est que l'IA est en train de prendre le contrôle de la création artistique, rendant les artistes redondants et menaçant leur capacité à gagner leur vie.

  • Quels sont les outils de remplacement pour Photoshop mentionnés dans le script ?

    -Clip Studio Paint et GIMP sont mentionnés comme alternatives à Photoshop, offrant des fonctionnalités similaires sans l'IA intégrée.

  • Quelle est la position de l'hôte sur le modèle de abonnement mensuel pour Photoshop ?

    -L'hôte est critique à l'égard du modèle de abonnement mensuel, car cela oblige les utilisateurs à accepter les décisions d'Adobe, même si elles sont impopulaires.

  • Quels sont les commentaires des utilisateurs sur Twitter à l'égard des fonctionnalités d'IA de Photoshop ?

    -Les commentaires sont largement négatifs, avec des utilisateurs exprimant leur inquiétude et leur désapprobation de l'IA qui fait du travail à la place des artistes.

  • Quelle est la suggestion finale de l'hôte pour les artistes à propos de Photoshop ?

    -L'hôte suggère que les artistes devraient chercher des alternatives à Photoshop, car l'intégration de l'IA pourrait signifier la fin de la nécessité d'avoir des artistes créatifs.

Outlines

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🎨 L'intégration de l'IA dans Photoshop

Dans ce paragraphe, les animateurs de Clownish TV abordent l'ajout de nouvelles fonctionnalités d'IA dans Photoshop. Ils discutent de la réticence de l'animateur 'Sparkles' à participer à l'épisode en raison de son manque de connaissances sur l'art et la technologie. L'animateur 'neon' mentionne que Photoshop a intégré des outils d'IA tels que l'AI génératif et les filtres neuronaux, et que la dernière version va jusqu'à permettre la création d'œuvres d'art à partir de simples invites. Cette évolution suscite un mécontentement chez les artistes qui utilisent Photoshop pour la peinture numérique et les bandes dessinées. Les participants débattent sur les implications de l'IA dans la création artistique et la difficulté future à différencier entre l'art créé par un humain et celui généré par l'IA.

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🤖 Les réactions des artistes face à l'IA

Dans ce paragraphe, les réactions des artistes à l'intégration de l'IA dans Photoshop sont présentées. Beaucoup d'entre eux sont contre l'utilisation de l'art généré par l'IA et se sentent trahis par Adobe qui favorise l'IA sur les artistes. Les commentaires sur les réseaux sociaux montrent une grande insatisfaction, avec des appels à chercher des alternatives à Photoshop. Certains artistes s'inquiètent de la façon dont l'IA est formée, questionnant si les artistes sont payés pour que leur travail soit utilisé comme outil d'apprentissage pour l'IA. D'autres expriment leur dégoût face à cette évolution, tandis que d'autres encore envisagent de passer à d'autres logiciels comme Clip Studio Paint.

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🛑 L'impact de l'IA sur la créativité des artistes

Le troisième paragraphe poursuit le sujet de l'impact de l'IA sur la créativité et la carrière des artistes. Les animateurs discutent de la difficulté à différencier entre l'art créé par un humain et celui généré par l'IA, soulignant que les artistes pourraient devoir prouver qu'ils ont créé leur travail en direct. Ils mentionnent également d'autres logiciels de création graphique, tels que Clip Studio Paint et les alternatives open source, qui pourraient ne pas être aussi avancés dans l'intégration de l'IA, offrant ainsi une échappatoire aux artistes. L'épisode se termine sur une note critique envers Adobe, qui est accusé de ne pas comprendre les besoins de sa clientèle d'artistes créatifs et de compromettre leur avenir professionnel en favorisant l'IA.

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Keywords

💡AI

AI fait référence à l'Intelligence Artificielle, un domaine de l'informatique qui vise à créer des machines capables de réaliser des tâches qui nécessitent normalement l'intelligence humaine, comme la reconnaissance de la parole, la reconnaissance d'image ou la résolution de problèmes. Dans le script, l'AI est discutée comme un outil intégré à Photoshop, permettant de créer de l'art ou de retoucher des photos de manière automatisée, ce qui suscite des controverses parmi les artistes.

💡Photoshop

Photoshop est un logiciel de retouche d'images développé par Adobe. Il est largement utilisé par les artistes et les professionnels du graphisme pour modifier, améliorer ou créer des images numériques. Dans le script, Photoshop est mentionné comme étant en train d'intégrer des outils d'IA, ce qui est critiqué par certains utilisateurs pour sa capacité à créer de l'art de manière automatique.

💡Générique AI

Le générique AI fait référence à des fonctionnalités de remplissage ou de création d'images basées sur l'intelligence artificielle. Dans le script, il est mentionné que Photoshop a commencé à inclure des outils de génération d'IA, ce qui a conduit à des débats sur l'impact de cette technologie sur la créativité et le travail des artistes.

💡Neural Filters

Les Neural Filters sont des filtres de traitement d'image basés sur l'apprentissage profond, un type d'IA. Ils permettent d'appliquer des transformations complexes sur les images de manière automatisée. Dans le contexte du script, ils sont utilisés pour souligner l'évolution de Photoshop vers une utilisation plus avancée de l'IA.

💡Rétroaction négative

La rétroaction négative fait référence aux commentaires ou aux réactions défavorables à une idée, une politique ou un produit. Dans le script, la rétroaction négative est évoquée en ce qui concerne la réaction des artistes à l'ajout d'IA dans Photoshop, qui considèrent que cela nuit à leur travail et à leur créativité.

💡Création d'images

La création d'images implique le processus de conception et de production d'images originales, souvent par des artistes ou des concepteurs graphiques. Dans le script, la capacité de Photoshop à créer des images à partir de simples prompts est critiquée comme étant une menace pour les artistes qui créent des œuvres d'art originales.

💡Artistes numériques

Les artistes numériques sont des créateurs qui utilisent des outils numériques et des logiciels pour concevoir et produire des œuvres d'art. Dans le script, ces artistes sont préoccupés par l'impact de l'IA sur leur capacité à créer et à se démarquer dans un marché où l'art peut être facilement généré par des algorithmes.

💡Bande-annonce

Une bande-annonce est une vidéo courte utilisée pour promouvoir un produit ou une idée, souvent en montrant des extraits ou des fonctionnalités clés. Dans le script, l'amélioration de la fonctionnalité de suppression de fond automatique dans Photoshop est présentée comme une nouvelle bande-annonce pour les vidéos.

💡Piratage de logiciels

Le piratage de logiciels est l'acte illégal d'utiliser, de copier ou de distribuer des logiciels sans autorisation ou sans payer les frais de licence. Dans le script, il est ironiquement suggéré que le piratage pourrait être une alternative aux abonnements mensuels d'Adobe, bien que ce ne soit pas une option morale ou légale.

💡Alternatives à Photoshop

Les alternatives à Photoshop sont d'autres logiciels de graphisme et de retouche d'images qui peuvent être utilisés à la place de Photoshop. Dans le script, des alternatives comme Clip Studio Paint sont mentionnées comme des options pour les artistes qui cherchent à s'éloigner de Photoshop en raison de l'ajout d'IA.

Highlights

Introduction to the discussion on art and technology with a focus on AI tools in Photoshop.

Neon's reluctance to participate in the discussion due to limited knowledge of AI in Photoshop.

Geeks' distinction between traditional art tools and digital tools like Photoshop.

Adobe's integration of AI tools in Photoshop, starting with generative AI fill and neural filters.

The new feature in Photoshop that allows creating artwork from prompts, raising concerns among artists.

Backlash from artists against AI, fearing it undermines their work and skills.

The challenge of distinguishing between AI-generated and original artwork.

The convenience of AI in Photoshop for tasks like background removal and image tweaking.

Neon's appreciation for AI's ability to save time on mundane tasks in digital art.

The Twitter reaction to Adobe's promotion of AI features in Photoshop, with artists expressing their disapproval.

Concerns about AI replacing artists and the ethical implications of using AI in art creation.

Discussion on whether AI in Photoshop is a helpful tool or a threat to artists' originality.

The potential for AI to monitor and learn from artists' techniques, raising privacy concerns.

The impact of Adobe's subscription model on customer loyalty and the ability to switch to alternatives.

Calls for alternatives to Photoshop as a response to the integration of AI features.

The debate on the value of AI in art and whether it enhances or diminishes the artist's role.

Predictions that AI will be incorporated into other art software, changing the landscape of digital art creation.

The conclusion of the discussion, emphasizing the controversy surrounding AI in Photoshop and its future implications.

Transcripts

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hey guys welcome back to clownish TV

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this is neon I am here with geeky

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Sparkles hello and we're going to talk

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about one of her favorite things uh art

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technology oh yeah so excited she was

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even like right before we recorded this

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she's like I don't know if I want to be

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in this one I didn't want to be but he

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made me cuz it's more interesting when

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you're here well I don't know if this

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one will be cuz I don't know enough much

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about it but any you can you can chime

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in cuz I I use actual real tools like

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pain paper I don't usually use Photoshop

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I'm a real artist not a poser I just

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don't use Photoshop that much I mean I

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can I just don't we're going to we're

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going to talk about this CU um this is

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not going well for Adobe Adobe has been

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adding more and more AI tools to

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photoshop in particular and at first it

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was just like oh uh you know the um

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generative AI fill and oh we've got some

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filters that are neural filters I

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noticed that in the new version of photo

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sh well now they're just like you know

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what yeah why just retouch photos and

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artwork when we can just create it whole

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cloth we'll just make the make it all up

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from prompts oh boy and it's not going

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well considering the backlash against AI

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from a lot of artists that use photosop

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to do digital painting and the Color

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comic books and to do all other stuff

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they're like yeah this is a [ __ ] take

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but I you know this goes back to what

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we've been saying like you don't have to

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agree with AI you don't have to like AI

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but it's obviously not going anywhere

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when it's being built into Photoshop and

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like pretty much everybody who does

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digital art uses Photoshop for something

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it's it's kind of here to stay but uh I

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don't think now would have been a good

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time to make such a big deal about this

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you know cuz now it's going to be harder

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to tell too cuz if you export it as as

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like a Photoshop your original you're

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quotequote original as a Photoshop file

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and you're a digital painter and you

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spent like 20 hours doing painting and

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somebody's like yeah it's just AI

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because you can't really that's true

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because everybody's just going to assume

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that was just AI yes yeah yeah so it's

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it's getting out of hand the AI stuff is

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getting way out of hand it is I think

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the the uh uh cart is getting away from

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the horse I think it's helpful in in

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some ways um I actually do appreciate

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the uh like you can have it go in and

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tweak images or backgrounds but my my

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favorite new thing now especially for

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thumbnails with Photoshop is the ability

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to just knock out the back ground

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automatically so if you get an image of

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a character or something you're talking

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about in the video you can just knock

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the background out using AI yeah

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remember you do the last oh my God yeah

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and then you never got all the pixels

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and you never now it's not 100% perfect

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but it's pretty damn close and if the

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background especially is kind of blurred

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out or it's all white or whatever it's

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it's perfect it's like just boom remove

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background I'm like oh there it is okay

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that that's like 20 to 30 minutes of my

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time that's saved uh so it that kind of

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stuff I think is fine uh tweaking damage

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photos you know going in or or extending

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photos that kind of stuff I think is

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fine this this is not going to go well

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we're going to talk about it not a lot

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of people are talking about it I just

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happen to see it yesterday because I

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follow a lot of artists but people are

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like yeah you don't know your audience

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very well it doesn't seem like a lot of

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people are retweeting it or com I mean I

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don't know if people know about it I

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don't think they do but they're going to

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after this video so we're going to talk

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about it before we get into it any

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further police subscribe for more pop

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culture news views and rants if you do

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you'll get a woohoo woohoo uh I need to

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be replaced with AI was a joke we're

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going to start aiing this cuz I I I keep

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making mistakes I'm like if I were a

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computer I wouldn't make the mistakes I

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just would talk in

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nonsensical fashion about things like I

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I do already um anyway this is the uh

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the photosop Twitter account and I

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noticed it because I think Ben temples

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Smith actually who's a comic book

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professional he retweeted it uh they

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said yeah text to image is Magic guys be

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sure to try out the new feature in the

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latest Photoshop beta version little

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fingers like oh we're so so nervous how

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it's going to going to go so yeah you

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literally can just a fairy with green

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Wings well who the hell wants to spend

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20 hours painting a fairy with green

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Wings when Photoshop can just do it for

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you like this is where we're at right

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and that's better than I could do and

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the thing is is you're not you're not

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going to know the difference in a lot of

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cases because let's be honest Hest a lot

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of stuff was initially I don't know if

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it's still the case now but initially it

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was trained on pre-existing artartwork

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so and if you've got that you know

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you're like oh here's my Photoshop

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original so now like for people to be

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able to tell that you actually did it

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you're probably going to have to show

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yourself drawing in real time like do a

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capture of you drawing something or

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people aren't going to believe it or

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just deliberately [ __ ] it up so people

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are like oh yeah it was clearly a

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human clearly a human just make sure the

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the right number of of fingers are on it

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they've actually gotten that right too I

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say I think they fixed that haven't they

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they fixed that so here are some of the

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responses we'll got to the retweets but

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they've been really pushing this and I I

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feel like not enough people are talking

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about because you know again when you've

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got all these artists that are like you

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know we're against uh Wizards of the

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Coast using AI art we're against anybody

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even using AI art in obvious AI art and

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advertising or any of that stuff in any

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capacity but Photoshop itself the tool

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95% of these people are using has it

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built in right now it is going to make

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it so hard to

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tell um you know what is what is going

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on here so yeah uh Ben temples Smith how

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destroy your user base in one easy tweet

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Pilgrim says this kind of feels like a

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kick to kick in the nuts to all those

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insanely talented artists who use

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Photoshop for concept art yeah promoting

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this over actual artists is weird why

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would they why wouldn't they they switch

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to procreate oh just wait it's coming to

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everything guys you're not going to be

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able to avoid it no clip studio uh which

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is what I use for line art for Comics

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clip studio now the new version of it

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has some now it's not as extensive as

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this it's not like just whole cloth

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creating stuff but they do have some new

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tools that they're using like

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perspective correction I think is one

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and you can just like lay down some

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color strokes and it'll kind of guess

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how you want to color stuff so it might

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speed up flatting that kind of stuff I'm

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down with cuz I'm like this is just kind

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of like time consuming drudgery but like

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we're talking Photoshop now is going to

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paint everything for

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you uh and how is the AI trained do you

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pay the artist for having their art used

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as a training tool for the AI wouldn't

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it be devious if since Photoshop has

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been connected to the internet for so

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long that they're just watching all

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these artists paint they're just taking

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note of how you do this how you draw

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that like oh yeah yeah that's how you do

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how do I cancel my subscription this is

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probably AI answering him beep boop bop

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hi there we're really sorry for this

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frustrating experience would you mind

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dming us uh so we can take a look at

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your account and see what we can do

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happy to help thank

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you um could you like not turn a

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legitimately bad thing in the memes it's

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a bot response yeah it probably is

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actually most of the customer service

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tweets I've seen lately are AI generated

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I'm starting to think the entire company

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is just run by Bots now or at least soon

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it will be promote the artist not the AI

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wow [ __ ] you this is Massie makes Comics

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I think they make comics I think they do

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uh and I pay for this you have to this

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is the thing like Adobe took away the

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ability I believe to buy just a

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standalone copy of the software years

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ago and I remember a lot of people were

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upset they're like wait I have to pay a

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monthly subscription I'm like yeah this

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is exactly why you have to pay a monthly

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subscription so when they make unpopular

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decisions guess what you're stuck with

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it cuz that's how have to switch to

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something else you have to switch to

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something else to you realize who your

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customers are customers and customers

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customers well at least we know it's not

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AI horrible marketing job uh how can I

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cancel my edging subscription would you

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mind dming us the exact same thing yes

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we're here to help so users have lost

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all their creativity can't make anything

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and the AI has to do it for them and

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answer you know you know questions on

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Twitter disgusting disgusting disgusting

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disgusting um here's a free alternative

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to photoshop so yeah don't forget

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Torrance um people are actually calling

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for people are calling for Alternatives

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and they're they're showing you what the

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alternatives are this could actually be

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the end of Photoshop because I know a

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lot of people were pissed off that they

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went to the subscription model and

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they're they're rationale for that at

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the time it's been like 10 or 12 years

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since they pretty much forced you to to

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go with uh the Adobe Creative Cloud or

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whatever the hell they call it now this

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subscription was that so many people

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were pirating the

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software that like one person was

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basically play paying for like 200

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people to to have Photoshop which is

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they're like that's why it's so

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expensive guys that's why Photoshop cost

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like at the time it was like $300 to

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$700 or whatever it was for a copy of

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Photoshop like cuz you're paying for

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everybody else who uses it for free that

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was like well you know so we're going to

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start charging individuals and it was

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like well this way we keep you updated

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they always have a reason for why you

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have to pay monthly for Photoshop and

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they keep you know creeping the price up

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and now it's like yeah just Photoshop

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just does it for you I like too how they

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break it down by where you can actually

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use it on like you know iOS Windows

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Apple you know a lot of people already

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have jumped to uh you know [ __ ] and I

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know like I said with with uh drawing i

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i a long time ago actually switched to

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clip Studio because I do mostly comic

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art and it was it's better for comic art

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because you can actually you know lay

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Pages outlay books out in one clip no

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pun intended but does animation Stu I

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animation people lot of people use TB

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bber blender yeah yeah but all these all

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these things eventually I hate to be

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that guy eventually they're going to

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incorporate some degree of AI but again

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I feel there's a difference

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between helpful uh I guess you I guess

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what they call it ethical AI usage

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ethical AI usage which is it helps

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people make stuff it doesn't do it for

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them you're getting a tutor to help you

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with your homework so you understand

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your homework you're not having them do

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it for you you're not paying for the

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answers or whatever but even now like

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kids are totally doing it right um You

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can always pirate Adobe products it's

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always morally

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correct um Tada D without a d feature a

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dumb feature like that dorley dorley hey

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Adobe beyond the fact that you're

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selling out your loyal paying customers

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for the sole purpose of chasing growth

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the thing your AI made sucks [ __ ] it's

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bad not only are you trying to kill your

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customer's chance to earn a living but

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you suck at doing it stop

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it uh here are Photoshop art uh artworks

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made with Photoshop tools like intended

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clip St yeah here we go clip Studio

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paint is a really good piece of software

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by the way I make all my art Commercial

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Art included in clip Studio I agree with

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you I like clip Studio quite a bit it is

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a little dated I mean it's it's it's

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very much it would take a lot it would

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take a lot to update it to AI then it

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would so you're more likely to not be

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you know outed by AI anytime soon yeah

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so people are pissed I don't understand

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the logic in this

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um yeah Adobe isn't paying artist for

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their are don't pay for Adobe yeah

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they're all telling people pirate Adobe

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I think this is this is going to be a

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huge huge blow because artists and

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creatives were the the the biggest user

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base for Adobe products they're

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basically like yeah we don't even need

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the artist anymore we can just we can

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just paint [ __ ] without you yeah you can

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just put some prompts in anybody can be

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a they didn't read the room they didn't

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read the room guys uh it's not a good

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look not a good look all the all the

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tropes we're going to wrap this up yeah

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