AMD Sound Wave ARM APU Leak: Built to KILL Apple M4 & Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite!

Moore's Law Is Dead
17 May 202412:01

Summary

TLDR视频脚本透露了AMD正在开发一款名为Soundwave的新型ARM架构APU,这款产品旨在与Nvidia和苹果竞争,并可能在2026年发布。AMD的这一举措被看作是对移动市场的一次大胆进攻,同时也反映了业界对ARM Windows PC潜力的看好。尽管ARM在低功耗领域具有优势,但AMD的这一决策被一些业内人士视为冒险之举,可能会分散其在x86市场的注意力。此外,脚本还暗示了Intel可能再次错失市场机遇,因为它在智能手机、平板电脑和GPU市场上的失误。

Takeaways

  • 😲 视频作者三个月前泄露了关于Nintendo Switch 2的规格和性能信息,这些信息后来得到了其他渠道的确认。
  • 🔍 作者还讨论了AMD在为Switch 2开发APU时与Nvidia的竞争,以及AMD为何最终未能赢得合同。
  • 🤔 作者曾怀疑AMD可能在为需要ARM架构而非x86的客户设计APU,这可能与K12项目有关。
  • 📢 现在,作者透露AMD正在开发一个名为Soundwave的新型APU,它将使用ARM架构。
  • 🗓️ Soundwave APU预计在2026年发布,但确切日期尚未确定,可能会推迟到2027年。
  • 💪 该APU的NPU(神经处理单元)非常强大,目的是从高通手中赢得微软Surface的订单。
  • 👀 AMD的高级管理层对Soundwave项目非常关注,以确保项目能够快速有效地进展。
  • 🔄 作者通过多个渠道确认了AMD正在开发ARM APU的信息,并得到了一些有趣的反馈。
  • 💡 一些消息来源认为,AMD开发ARM APU可能是为了在未来10年内主导移动市场。
  • 🚀 如果AMD的ARM APU成功,可能会对Intel和Nvidia构成新的挑战,尤其是在移动和低功耗市场。
  • 🤝 一位AMD合作伙伴表示,ARM Windows PC可能会变得非常流行,AMD和Intel之前忽视ARM可能是因为它与Windows的兼容性不佳。

Q & A

  • 什么是Switch 2,它与任天堂的下一代游戏机有什么关系?

    -Switch 2是任天堂下一代游戏机的非官方名称。在视频中提到,Switch 2将使用基于ARM的APU,而不是x86架构,这与AMD和Nvidia之间的竞标有关,AMD在竞标中输给了Nvidia。

  • AMD为什么会在Switch 2的APU竞标中输给Nvidia?

    -视频中提到AMD和Nvidia都参与了Switch 2 APU的竞标,AMD最终输掉了竞标。具体原因没有详细说明,但暗示了与ARM架构和向后兼容性的重要性有关。

  • AMD的K12项目是什么,它与Switch 2有什么关系?

    -K12是AMD的一个项目,它在Jim Keller离开AMD后被指控被公司取消。视频中提到,尽管Jim离开了AMD,K12项目可能仍然在某种程度上以某种形式继续存在,这可能与Switch 2的APU设计有关。

  • Soundwave是什么,它与AMD有什么关系?

    -Soundwave是AMD正在开发的一款基于ARM的APU。视频中提到,Soundwave可能是AMD为满足使用ARM而不是x86架构的客户而设计的现代ARM架构APU。

  • AMD的Soundwave APU的主要特点是什么?

    -根据视频,Soundwave APU的主要特点是它使用ARM架构,并且它的NPU(神经处理单元)非常强大,专为赢得微软Surface市场而设计,目标是与高通竞争。

  • Soundwave APU预计何时发布?

    -视频中提到,Soundwave APU的发布日期预计在2026年,但这是一个松散的目标,也有可能推迟到2027年。

  • AMD的高级管理层对Soundwave项目的态度如何?

    -视频中指出,AMD的高级管理层对Soundwave项目给予了极大的关注,他们希望项目能够快速而有效地进展,如果项目开始落后于计划,他们甚至愿意终止项目。

  • 为什么AMD可能会进入ARM APU市场?

    -视频中提到,AMD可能认为时机对于Soundwave的成功至关重要,并且他们可能希望通过进入ARM APU市场来扩大其在移动市场的份额。

  • 视频中提到的其他公司对ARM APU市场有什么看法?

    -视频中引用了AMD合作伙伴和英特尔员工的观点,他们对ARM Windows PC的潜力持乐观态度,认为ARM市场正在迅速增长,AMD的进入可能会对市场产生重大影响。

  • 为什么英特尔可能错过了智能手机和平板电脑市场?

    -视频中提到,英特尔错过了智能手机和平板电脑市场,因为他们没有及时推出与这些设备相匹配的产品,并且在GPU和AI产品方面也落后于市场。

Outlines

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😲 任天堂Switch 2与AMD的传闻

视频开头提到了三个月前泄露的关于任天堂Switch 2的规格和性能信息,这些信息在网上引起了广泛关注。随后在直播中,详细讨论了AMD与Nvidia竞争Switch 2 APU的失败原因,以及AMD对ARM架构的重视。视频还提到了AMD的Soundwave APU,这是基于ARM架构的新产品,可能与之前AMD为Switch 2设计的APU有关。Soundwave APU被认为将具有强大的NPU,旨在与高通竞争微软Surface市场,并计划在2026年发布。视频还强调了AMD高层对这个项目的关注,以及他们对项目进展的严格要求。

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🤔 AMD ARM APU的未来及对行业的影响

视频的第二段讨论了AMD正在开发的ARM APU及其对行业未来的影响。视频中提到了来自AMD合作伙伴的看法,他们认为ARM Windows PC将会非常流行,AMD和Intel之前忽视ARM主要是因为它与Windows的兼容性不佳,但现在情况正在迅速改变。视频还引用了一位Intel人士的观点,他们对AMD开发ARM APU的想法感到惊讶,但同时也对AMD的创新精神表示尊重。此外,视频还提到了AMD正在积极收集ARM系统的bug报告,并与合作伙伴一起解决这些问题,这表明AMD可能在为ARM APU的开发做准备。

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🚀 英特尔的落后与AMD的领先

视频的最后一段探讨了英特尔在智能手机、平板电脑、GPU市场以及AI领域的落后,以及AMD在这些领域的领先地位。视频中提到了Nvidia也在开发ARM APU,暗示了一个新的市场正在形成,而英特尔似乎又一次错过了这个市场的发展。视频以对英特尔可能再次错过市场的担忧结束,同时强调了AMD在ARM APU领域的积极布局和对未来市场潜力的看好。

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Keywords

💡Switch 2

Switch 2指的是任天堂即将推出的游戏机,即Nintendo Switch的继任者。在视频中,Switch 2与AMD和Nvidia之间的竞标联系在一起,暗示AMD可能为这款游戏机设计了基于ARM架构的APU(加速处理单元)。

💡AMD

AMD是一家知名的半导体公司,主要生产中央处理器(CPU)和图形处理器(GPU)。视频中提到AMD与Nvidia竞争Switch 2的APU设计,并且AMD正在开发名为Soundwave的基于ARM的新APU。

💡Nvidia

Nvidia是一家主要生产GPU和AI平台的科技公司。在视频中,Nvidia赢得了为Switch 2设计APU的竞标,击败了AMD。

💡ARM

ARM是一种微处理器架构,广泛应用于移动设备中。ARM架构以其能效比而闻名。视频中提到,AMD可能为Switch 2设计了基于ARM的APU,并且正在开发新的基于ARM的APU,名为Soundwave。

💡APU

APU(加速处理单元)是一种集成了CPU和GPU的处理器,旨在提高计算效率和性能。视频中提到AMD为Switch 2设计了APU,并且正在开发新的APU,名为Soundwave。

💡Soundwave

Soundwave是AMD正在开发的一款基于ARM的APU。视频中提到,这款APU将具有强大的NPU(神经处理单元),并且是为与高通竞争微软Surface市场而设计的。

💡NPU

NPU(神经处理单元)是一种专门设计用于执行机器学习任务的处理器。视频中提到,AMD的Soundwave APU将包含一个非常强大的NPU,这表明它可能被用于高性能的AI计算任务。

💡高通

高通是一家主要生产移动通信和无线技术产品的公司。在视频中,AMD的Soundwave APU被描述为旨在与高通竞争微软Surface市场,这表明AMD可能在移动计算领域寻求新的增长点。

💡微软Surface

微软Surface是微软公司推出的一系列平板电脑和笔记本电脑。视频中提到AMD的Soundwave APU被设计用来与高通竞争这一市场,这可能意味着AMD希望在移动设备领域扩大其影响力。

💡2026年发布

视频中提到AMD的Soundwave APU预计将在2026年发布。这个时间点表明AMD正在为未来市场的需求和技术趋势做准备。

💡Intel

Intel是一家主要生产CPU的科技公司。虽然在视频中Intel并没有直接参与到Switch 2的APU竞标,但视频最后提到Intel可能错过了智能手机、平板电脑和GPU市场的增长,暗示Intel可能需要关注ARM架构的市场潜力。

Highlights

三个月前,有关Nintendo Switch 2的泄露信息在网上引起了轰动,因为这些信息基本上确认了这款备受期待的任天堂下一代游戏机的通用规格和性能。

AMD与Nvidia竞标Switch 2的APU(加速处理单元),但最终AMD惜败。

Switch 2使用ARM架构,而向后兼容性对任天堂非常重要,因此推测AMD可能在为使用ARM而非x86的客户设计早期的APU。

AMD可能在Jim Keller离开公司后继续了K12项目,尽管他声称AMD取消了K12项目。

AMD正在开发一个名为Soundwave的APU,它将使用ARM架构。

Soundwave APU首次被泄露是因为一名AMD员工在其LinkedIn个人资料上列出了它。

Soundwave可能是AMD一系列基于ARM的APU的开始,这些APU将采用“Wave”命名方式。

Soundwave APU的NPU(神经处理单元)将非常强大,专门为从高通手中赢得微软Surface而设计。

Soundwave APU预计将在2026年发布,但这是一个松散的目标,可能会推迟到2027年。

AMD的高级管理层对Soundwave项目非常关注,并希望它能够快速且有效地进展。

AMD正在积极收集有关ARM系统的bug报告,以帮助解决ARM系统中的CPU相关崩溃问题。

AMD可能正在准备在未来10年内完全占领移动市场。

有传言称Nvidia也在开发基于ARM的APU,这表明市场可能正在向ARM架构转移。

Intel可能再次错失了市场机会,因为他们错过了智能手机、平板电脑、GPU繁荣和AI繁荣。

ARM架构可能被过度炒作,但如果ARM Windows PC市场即使只有预期的一半大,也意味着有大量的利润可赚。

AMD的APU项目是其当前最高优先级的项目之一,但没有人讨论它将如何与Intel竞争,因为AMD不再关注Intel。

Transcripts

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almost 3 months ago I put out a leak

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about the switch 2 that really did make

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some waves online due to confirming

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basically everything you needed to know

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about the general specs and performance

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of the much anticipated nextg outing

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from Nintendo and then just a day later

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in a live stream I leaked more specific

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details about the specs details that now

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been independently confirmed in other

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outlets by the way so you can take them

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to the bank but then I I also elaborated

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on why AMD lost the bid against Nvidia

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for the console and I actually suspect

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that that's something that many people

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have forgotten was included in those

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leaks AMD bid against Nvidia to make the

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switch 2 Apu and they barely lost but

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they did bid against Nvidia and the

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switch uses arm and backwards

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compatibility is very important to

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Nintendo so I think it's incredibly

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plausible and logical to have assumed

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that if AMD was bidding for the switch 2

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they were probably at least doing some

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early design work for an APU that might

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use Arm not x86 and heck it might even

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be plausible to suggest that the K12

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project or some vestage of it zombied on

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after Jim Keller left the company and

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accused AMD of killing K12 I mean heck

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it was still in leaked road maps after

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Jim left AMD so yeah with all of that in

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mind I'm really not sure why I didn't

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consider back then that AMD was possibly

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already working on a modern arm

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architecture for an APU for customers

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that demanded to use Arm instead of

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x86 I don't know why I didn't think

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about that back then but what I can say

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now is this they are at least one of

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those apus is going to use arm and it is

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called Soundwave now Soundwave I believe

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was first leaked when some AMD employee

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listed it on their LinkedIn profile and

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I do have to point out that it should

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have stuck out like a sore thumb back

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then with its entirely Divergent naming

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scheme with a wave not a point or

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something in its name and I would

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actually infer that this is likely the

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start of an entire family of generations

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of arm AMD apus that will take the wave

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moner not the point or Halo moniker but

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I don't know that for sure so do take

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that as speculation

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that AMD would be planning to make

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multiple Generations have this whole

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thing planned out but I would infer that

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from seeing the Muse wave instead of

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point and now I want to tell you what's

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not speculation what I can 100% or at

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least very likely confirm about amd's

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Soundwave Apu let's not waste time let's

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put that quote slide right on screen

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about Soundwave and yes this is an early

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leak I have limited information at this

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point but I think it's big enough that

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it was worth putting out now because it

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is just such a big deal I feel that AMD

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is considering releasing an APU with a

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CPU that utilizes arm instead of x86 now

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besides that though I can also confirm

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that the npu is supposed to be very

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powerful in this thing and that it is

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being purpose-built to win Microsoft

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Surface from Qualcomm I can also tell

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you that it is supposed to have a 2026

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release date but this is really just a

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loose Target here what what I can say is

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that it's a near 0% chance that

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Soundwave launches next year and that it

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could slip to 2027 but this thing is far

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enough out that I really can't give you

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anything more specific than probably

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launching in 2026 but then I can also

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tell you with a high confidence that

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there's a lot of attention being paid to

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this project by Senior Management and

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from that me and a couple of my sources

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infer that it seems like leadership's

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insisting on it progressing competently

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and quickly so that it doesn't end up

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like stricks which of course I have

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already leaked numerous times required

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delays for design changes and really had

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a lot of problems so I I suspect that

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AMD believes timing will be extra

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important for Soundwave to be a success

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and so they aren't afraid to kill the

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project if it starts fa falling behind

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schedule and they don't want it to so

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they're keeping close tabs on it and

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making sure the people working on it are

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the people they feel are the best people

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for the job and so yeah that's most of

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what I can confirm about Soundwave right

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now that information comes from a couple

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of of key AMD sources that usually know

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about things before anybody else does

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even if those other people work at AMD

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these are people that usually know it

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before even other people at AMD but of

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course I did reach out to a dozen other

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sources to see if you know anyone else

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knew anything like asking vague

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questions like what do you think about

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if AMD made an rapu and then see what

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their reaction was see if they could

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independently say Soundwave or something

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and I didn't get something like that but

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I did get one of my other sources to say

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something that entirely backs up that

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AMD is working on an rapu and I also got

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some really interesting feedback about

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what this might mean for the future of

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so when I took that initial Soundwave

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information to my other sources most

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people either loved or hated the idea of

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AMD making an arm Apu but besides that

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they knew pretty much nothing however a

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handful of sources did have some really

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interesting stuff to say and I do think

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it's worth sharing with you all so

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without further Ado let me also put

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these reaction quotes uh on screen from

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someone my sources now the first one

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here is an AMD partner who said that

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honestly I think arm Windows PCS are

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going to be huge I really suspect that

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the main reason AMD and Intel were

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ignoring arm for so long is simply

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because it didn't work well with Windows

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but I do think that is rapidly changing

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I do think there is some truth to that

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and not just that it doesn't need to

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improve anymore I still think you know

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making arm efficiently work with the

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Windows operating system does still need

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a lot of work but I feel like Microsoft

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is telegra cing that they are going to

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keep putting in the work and I don't

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feel like they really proved they were a

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decade ago but now they are now a Second

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Source here this person from Intel that

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I thought would be interesting to get

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their uh reactions from said that their

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initial reaction about AMD making an arm

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Apu was that it sounded silly AMD is on

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top of x86 right now and at least

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internally at Intel they don't think

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that arm really gives you an efficiency

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advantage unless you are operating below

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9 to 15 watts especially if you're

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running Windows having said that though

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this person said that if Amy really is

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doing this that they have immense

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respect for their Spirit of innovation

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that this would be a risky play that

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could backfire you know you're spending

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all this money to make a product that's

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kind of like opening up a new front in a

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war where you're already fighting two

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other fronts against powerful

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competitors like Intel and Nvidia do you

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really want to have something where Now

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like Apple and Qualcomm is being

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directly compared to you and taking you

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more seriously there instead of just

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cementing other segments but the person

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also said that they could argue that

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maybe AMD is just preparing to try and

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completely take the mobile market over

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the next 10 years and that dang they

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really hope inel hasn't missed the boat

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on something again now moving on to the

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final Source here which is really the

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most important one on this slide this

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person said that it's funny that I asked

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about an arm Apu lately amd's been

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asking them to submit to them as many

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bug reports as they can even if they're

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from arm systems they said that they

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even have some arm radon test systems

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that they were helping them troubleshoot

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which I guess is something retailers do

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they get these kind of like prototype or

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base laptops and then they like use them

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and say hey this thing crashed for this

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reason they said that AMD is always

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really interested in what causes crashes

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especially if it's CPU related crashes

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in arm systems and so there you go I

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have to say that final Source there I

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took that while I was putting together

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these notes as an additional Source

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outside of AMD that is seemingly backing

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up that AMD is up to something when it

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comes to making an arm Apu and you can

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bet that last source's quote is

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something that pushed me over the edge

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and being extra confident that it was

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worth leaking this bombshell information

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today but you know I actually want to

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close on not that last Source but the

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middle one the Intel one something that

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that Intel Source touched on is Intel

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missing the boat again because Intel

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missed smartphones they missed tablets

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they missed the GPU boom and then

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launched gpus when they should have been

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launching AI products so they've

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effectively missed the I AI boom and

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then when you look at rumors of Nvidia

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also working on arm apus I don't know it

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just feels like once again everybody is

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designing products for this new market

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that's supposed to expand a lot in the

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coming years besides Intel and I don't

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know maybe arm is overhyped in fact I

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actually kind of think that it is

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overhyped uh maybe it won't be as big

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you know arm Windows PCS as Microsoft

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and Qualcomm are hoping it will be but

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what if it is what if it's even half as

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big as they're saying that's still a lot

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of money to be made can Intel really

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afford to miss out on this and as I was

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writing that line there that I just said

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and wrapping up the notes for this video

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before I started recording I actually

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had a surreal feeling upon realizing

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that I really didn't have a big section

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in an AMD Apu video leak that would go

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into how Intel will respond and that's

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because Intel just wasn't brought up by

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my AMD sources for this one and in fact

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Intel rarely came up in conversation

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with any of the other sources that I

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talked to everyone just said why it

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would make sense for AMD and why they

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might want to compete with apple or

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Qualcomm and it's just crazy to think

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that one of amd's highest priority

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projects going on right now is being

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made and no one's talking about how it

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will perform against Intel because they

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don't really care who's in the rear view

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mirror now Pat

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