我那覇真子のインタビューを受けた‼️ @masakoganaha [BLM、移民、日本文化など]

BrooklynTokyo
15 May 202441:17

Summary

TLDRこのインタビューでは、保守派の日本人ジャーナリストであるガハナ・マサコさんとの対話を中心に展開されています。2年前に出会い、最近はブロークリン東京チャンネルでそのインタビューを公開する機会を得ました。対話では、アメリカと日本の文化、政治、そしてブラック・ライブズ・マター運動に関する見解が共有されています。ゲストはアメリカの社会における分裂や文化的な問題、そして日本における同様の問題に対する政治的目覚めの重要性を語っています。また、日本への愛着と、日本文化への尊敬、そしてアメリカと日本の相互理解を深めるためにの情報交換の必要性についても触れています。

Takeaways

  • 🤝 主講者が2年前、日本の保守派ジャーナリストのMasako Ganaと出会い、その経験が非常に印象的であったと述べています。
  • 📽 2022年に行われたMasako Ganaによるインタビューが、Brooklyn Tokyoチャンネルで公開され、当時と比べて見た目が変わっているものの、議論の内容は依然としてrelevantであるとされています。
  • 🌏 主講者はYouTubeチャンネル「Brooklyn Tokyo」を運営しており、日本の音楽、コメディ、政治など多岐にわたるコンテンツに反応動画を投稿しています。
  • 😂 主講者は日本のコメディアンShimokitazawaの喜劇を称賛し、その作品が文化的なものであり、政治的な正確性とは関係ないという意見を共有しています。
  • 🚫 主講者はcomedyが最も自由なエンターテイメントの形であり、コントロールされるべきではないと語ります。
  • ⚫️ ブラック・ライブズ・マター運動について、主講者はその背景にマルクス主義と共産主義があると指摘し、社会変革を目論む政治的議程があると見ています。
  • 🗣️ 日本における人種差別やBLM運動に関する議論で、主講者は日本が閉鎖的な国であり、外国人への無知が差別と誤解されるが、本当は人種差別ではないと説明しています。
  • 🧐 主講者は自身がかつて白人を嫌っていたが、后来にその考えを変え、様々な政治評論家や哲学的な研究を通じて目覚めたと語ります。
  • 🇺🇸 主講者はアメリカの多様性と共通の信念を持つことの重要性を強調し、現在の社会の分断を懸念しています。
  • 🌱 主講者は政治的認知を深めることで、人種や文化の枠組みを超えた個人としての成長を遂げたと述べています。
  • 🤔 主講者は意見を伝える際には、論争を避け、真実を追求する姿勢で人々と対話すべきだとアドバイスしています。

Q & A

  • 2年前に会った日本の記者、Gahana Masakoさんとのインタビューで印象に残ったことは何ですか?

    -Gahana Masakoさんとのインタビューは、非常に有意義で、お互いに深く話し合えた経験でした。彼女は素晴らしい人であり、インタビュー後も素晴らしいディスカッションを続けることができました。

  • 「Brooklyn Tokyo」チャンネルでどのような種類のコンテンツを扱っていますか?

    -「Brooklyn Tokyo」では、日本の音楽、コメディ、感動的なコンテンツ、時には政治など多岐にわたるスタイルのコンテンツに反応する動画を投稿しています。

  • ブラック・ライブズ・マター運動についてどのように考えていますか?

    -ブラック・ライブズ・マター運動は、マルクス主義者によって始まり、共産主義の教えを推進していると見ています。アメリカの影響力から、世界中の他の国々が同じ敘事を受け入れ始めたと考えていますが、その敘事が常に現地の人々とは関連しているとは限りません。

  • 日本のブラック・ライブズ・マター運動に関してどう思われますか?

    -日本にはブラック・ライブズ・マター運動があるが、それが実際に問題であるとは思えません。むしろ人々を分断しようとしているように見えます。

  • 日本の人々にブラック・ライブズ・マター運動について説明するときに、どのようなアドバイスを与えるでしょうか?

    -日本の人々がディスクリミネーションの経験について語るときに、彼らが実際に差別を受けていると信じていますが、日本の状況を理解することが重要です。日本は人種差別的な国ではないと考えていますが、外国人に対する無知があるかもしれません。

  • あなたはなぜアメリカの保守派として活動していますか?

    -私は家族の影響を受け、プロブラックの思想に育てられましたが、自分自身がフリーシンカーであるため、人種や文化に関係なく人々を好む傾向がありました。しかし、ブラック・ライブズ・マター運動の影響で、白人に対する反感を持ち始め、自分自身が問題であることに気づきました。その後、神父と話して、またBen Shapiroなどの政治評論家を通じて、より多くの情報を学び、政治的に目覚めるプロセスを経てきました。

  • アメリカの文化について教えてください。

    -アメリカは多様な人種と文化を持っており、共通の信念システムの下で統一されている必要があります。信念に基づいて人々が分かれると、社会的に分断が生じます。アメリカの強さは、異なる文化を持つ人々がハーモニーを保ちながら共存できる「溶炉」として機能することにかかっています。

  • あなたが日本の人々に対してアドバイスを与えるとしたら、何を推奨しますか?

    -日本の人々は、政治的問題に無頓着である傾向がありますが、国の方向性や政治家について研究し、理解を持つ必要があります。また、教育を重視し、政府のしくみや社会の機能を理解することが重要です。

  • あなたはなぜ日本を愛していますか?

    -アニメーションを通じて日本への興味を持ち、さらにその文化と社会構造について研究することで、より深く愛着を感じるようになりました。また、実際に訪れた際にも、非常に親切で心の暖かい経験をしました。

  • 日本の人々が目覚める必要があると感じる理由は何ですか?

    -日本の人々が政治的問題に無頓着であると感じていますが、国の方向性について知らずにいると、国の未来が変えられるリスクがあります。教育と情報収集を通じて、国民は国の状況を理解し、適切な政治的選択を下すことができます。

  • 日本の人々に対してメッセージを送るにあたり、何を伝えたいですか?

    -私のYouTubeチャンネル「Brooklyn Tokyo」でコンテンツを共有しており、日本の人々がフォローしてくだされば嬉しいです。また、メッセージを送ってもすぐに返信しますので、連絡してください。

Outlines

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😀 過去のインタビューを共有

2年前に conservaティブな日本のジャーナリストのMasako Gahanaと出会い、そのインタビューをBrooklyn Tokyoチャンネルで公開することを許可されました。当時の私が登場し、幅広いトピックに触れていますが、現在もなお関連性があります。

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😕 ブラック・ライブズ・マター運動について

日本のBLM組織について語り合い、その背後にある思想と政治的議論。アメリカの影響力から世界各国が同じ敍事を採用していると見ていますが、それが実際に住む人々とは関係がない場合もあります。また、BLMが人々の分断を促進していると述べています。

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🤔 政治的議論と個人的な変化

政治的議論が嫌われることと、個人的な変化について語ります。以前は白人を憎んでいたが、家族の影響とBLM運動の影響で変わりました。また、Ben Shapiroの影響を受け、政治的に目覚めたと述べています。

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🌐 アメリカの多様性と結束

アメリカの多様性と、それがもたらす課題について語ります。信念の一致が社会を結束させると述べ、共通の価値観を持つことが重要だと主張しています。また、現在のアメリカの状況について懸念を表明しています。

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😠 アメリカの変化と個人的な経験

アメリカが変化しており、内部から崩壊していると感じています。文化的な分断や家族の崩壊、性別役割の変化などについて述べており、アメリカの敵が社会構造を攻撃していると見ています。また、個人的な経験として、ハワイでの講演が脅威によって中止された経験を語ります。

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👥 ブラックコミュニティ内での経験

ブラックコミュニティ内での経験と、保守派であることの難しさについて語ります。ブラックアイデンティティの問題と、それがもたらす挑戦について述べています。また、自分の経験に基づいて、人々が異なる見解を持つことを許容し、理解を深めるよう促しています。

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😍 日本への愛着

アニメから始まり、日本の文化や社会に興味を持ち、2014年と2015年に訪れた際の経験について語ります。日本の影響力と、それがアジアに与える影響についても述べており、日本の人々が政治的議論を避けがちであると感じています。また、日本の人々が目覚める必要があると述べています。

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📢 日本人へのメッセージ

日本の人々に向けたメッセージとして、研究を深めて政治的議論に積極的に参加するよう促しています。また、教育の重要性和、国の方向性について知ることが肝要だと強調しています。さらに、日本の政治家について研究し、自分の声を上げることが求められています。

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🤝 国際的な協力の重要性

国際的な協力の重要性について語り合い、アメリカと日本の保守派が互いに助け合うべきだと述べています。また、BLM運動についても、実際にアメリカで起きていることを理解することが重要だと強調しています。最後に、YouTubeチャンネルBrooklyn Tokyoへのフォローを呼びかけています。

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Keywords

💡ブラック・ライブズ・マター

ブラック・ライブズ・マター(Black Lives Matter、BLM)は、アメリカで始まった社会運動で、特に黒人の命の尊さを主張しています。動画では、BLMがアメリカの影響力から世界各国に広がっていると述べ、それが実際に問題ではない国々にも適用されることに疑問を持っています。また、BLMの背景にある共産主義的な思想と、それが社会変革を目指す運動であるとの結論に至ります。

💡政治正確さ

政治正確さとは、社会的少数派や弱い立場を持つ人々に対して配慮し、差別的な表現を避けるための言語使用の原則です。動画では、過去の喜劇が政治正確さに合わない内容であったが、それが文化の一部として欣賞されていたと説明しています。また、現代ではメディアがそのようなコンテンツを問題視し、それが問題になるようになっています。

💡喜劇

喜劇は、ユーモアや讽刺を通じて娯楽や批判を提供する芸術形式です。動画では、喜劇が最も自由なエンターテイメントの形として、社会を風刺し、問題提起する自由を保障していると述べています。しかし、comedyがコントロールされることで、社会に問題が生じるとの見方が示されています。

💡文化

文化とは、一つの社会が持つ集団的な信念、習慣、芸術、言語などの総体です。動画では、日本の文化が外国の人々を外国人と単純に見なしていると述べていますが、それが差別的な態度ではなく、文化や社会的ルールに対する無知によるものであると主張しています。

💡アメリカ

アメリカは、多様性と自由の象徴として世界中で知られています。動画では、アメリカが持つ建国的原理や信念について触れており、アメリカが世界超国の地位を失う可能性があると述べています。また、アメリカが分裂すると、世界に影響を与えると警告しています。

💡保守主義

保守主義は、政治思想の一形態で、伝統的な価値観や制度を守り、急激な変化に懐疑的な立場を持つ思想です。動画の主人公は、自分自身を黒人の保守主義者と位置づけており、アメリカの文化的な分裂や家族の崩壊について懸念しています。また、主人公は自分の政治的な目覚めと、それが周囲の人々との間に摩擦を引き起こしたと語っています。

💡社会変革

社会変革とは、社会構造や文化、制度を根本から変革することです。動画では、BLMが後ろ盾に共産主義的な思想を持っているとされており、それが社会変革を目指しているとの見解が示されています。また、アメリカがその社会構造を攻撃され、崩壊の道を進んでいると述べています。

💡メディア

メディアとは、情報やメッセージを大衆に伝える手段であり、新聞、テレビ、インターネットなどが該当します。動画では、メディアが過去の喜劇作品を政治正確さの観点から問題視し、それが社会問題になるようにしていると指摘しています。また、アメリカの政治的状況を伝える際にも、メディアの偏りや誤解を懸念しています。

💡人種差別

人種差別は、人種に基づく不公平な扱いまたは見解です。動画では、主人公がかつて白人に対して持っていた反感が、社会的な圧力や周囲の影響によって形づけられたと語ります。また、アメリカのBLM運動が人種差別の問題を提起し、社会を分断する原因となり得るとの見方が示されています。

💡情報教育

情報教育とは、政治的、社会的情勢を理解し、判断するための教育です。動画では、日本の人々が政治に無頓着で、それが国への影響を与えると警告しています。また、人々が情報を集め、国の方向性や政治家の真実を知ることが重要だと強調しています。

💡自由

自由とは、人々の意志に基づいて行動し、選択することができる状態です。動画では、アメリカが自由の象徴として知られており、しかし現在はその自由が脅かされていると述べています。また、自由が脅かされることで、社会の分裂や陰謀が広がるとの見方が示されています。

Highlights

2年前、保守派の日本人ジャーナリスト・甘羽正子と出会い、その経験が非常に印象的でした。

彼女とは素晴らしいディスカッションがあり、2022年に再び連絡を取り、ブローoklyn Tokyoチャンネルでインタビューを公開することになりました。

ブローoklyn Tokyoチャンネルは、友人と共に運営し、日本の音楽、コメディ、政治など多岐にわたるコンテンツに対してリアクションビデオを投稿しています。

Shamの喜劇は、タイミングの良さと脚本の構成が素晴らしいと述べています。

喜劇は文化の一部であり、傷つける意図ではなく、楽しむためのものだと語りました。

BLM(Black Lives Matter)の背景にはマルクス主義が存在し、社会変革を目指していると分析しています。

アメリカの影響力により、BLMが世界に広がったが、日本の状況とは異なると語りました。

日本は外国人に対する無知而非難によると見なされ、BLMの議論は日本の文化的な理解を深める必要があると指摘しています。

自身がかつては白人に対する嫌悪感を持っていたが、神の教えとファクトに基づく考え方に目覚めたと告白しています。

アメリカは多くの異なる文化を持つが、共通の信念体系の下で統一されている必要があると強調しています。

アメリカが世界に与える影響について懸念を表明し、国内の分裂が国際社会にも影響を及ぼすと警告しています。

アメリカが250年のサイクルに達していると見なされており、世界超大国としての地位が変わる可能性があると述べています。

黒人保守派として、コミュニティから排斥され、侮辱される経験を語りました。

人々が異なる見解を持つことを恐れず、真実を追求するよう促しています。

日本に対しての愛着と、日本文化への興味を説明し、アメリカと日本の相互理解を深めることを目指していると述べています。

日本には政治的自觉が必要ですが、アメリカと同様に、社会の基礎的な価値観に挑戦がかかっていると警告しています。

日本人が積極的に政治に関心を持つべきであり、国の方向性について理解する必要があるとアドバイスしています。

アメリカと日本の人々が協力し、相互に支援し合うことが重要であると強調しています。

ブローlyn Tokyoチャンネルへのフォローとメッセージへの返信、そして日本の人々へのメッセージを述べています。

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minan KES so about 2 years ago I met

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with the conservative Japanese reporter

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masako gahana which was honestly one of

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my favorite experiences I've had in that

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year she is a wonderful Soul uh we had a

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great discussion even after the

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interview and it was honestly amazing

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yes uh I actually was interviewed by her

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in 2022 recently I got in contact with

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her again and she gave me the clearance

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uh to post that interview on the

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Brooklyn Tokyo Channel mind you I do

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look very different I was a lot skinnier

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and different two years ago however I

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believe the discussion is still relevant

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that we had and I wanted to give an

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opportunity for those who may have not

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seen it to actually check it out and

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watch the interview so I thank you guys

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for the support and yes here is my

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interview with masako Gana please enjoy

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hi nice to meet you

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hi you could you do the first uh uh

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greeting when you do in your video oh

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yes okay so um I've watched your um

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videos and it was very interesting and

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you I'm happy that that you reached out

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to me to uh make this happen thank you

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very much oh thank you it's a pleasure

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being here so thank you for the

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opportunity thank you you very much and

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I really love Florida and very beautiful

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Lake yeah it's very beautiful with a lot

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of bugs and insects yeah that's just

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part of the whole welcome

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package yes I see many iguanas and

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probably uh alligators right yeah a lot

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of swamp and Wildlife yeah yeah very

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much so okay this is part of our

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experience yes okay so today uh I I

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really want to ask you uh about uh

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actually I think you already talked in

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your YouTube video and many Japanese

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people I think watched your YouTube is

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mainly focused for Japanese people right

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and I'm so glad because um I I'm doing

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this my YouTube channel one of the

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reason I'm here is to connect uh conser

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people or people with common sense to

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connect people internationally because

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we have many issues similar happening in

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our my country and your country and

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you're doing the same thing and it's

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very uh effective and it's very funny

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that's what I like about your videos so

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uh could you please introduce yourself a

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little bit

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okay uh I run a YouTube channel called

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Brooklyn Tokyo with of my best friend

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which we do reaction videos to many

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styles of Japanese content whether

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that's music comedy anything emotional

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or sometimes politics uh but we do touch

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on politics every so often um when a

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certain topic comes up or sometimes

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people want us to discuss about a

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certain topic so anything relating to

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Japan we talk about or react to yeah yes

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and uh recently I watched

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shim it was very funny I remember I used

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to watch The Comedy when I was little m

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i was uh not allowed to watch TVs

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because TV brainwashes us but shim

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comedy was one of the few that I was

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allowed to actually watch right he's

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very funny he's very funny um I'm rest

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in peace to him but like uh his comedy

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is like it's not too much it's just like

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perfect timing his just how he firm

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forms his scripts and his actor is

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amazing I love it I love it yeah and uh

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look back to those old comedies they are

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far from political correctness yes it's

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still funny and it's like a part of

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culture and we say but not to just hurt

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people but it's like a part of how

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should I explain it's just a part of

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culture you know and we are not to

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offend anybody and it was okay but media

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started to pick up those things so it

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kind of became problem that's what I I

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think right and I believe the more of

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this like uh the left narrative or more

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of the Socialist Communist they try to

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infiltrate every style of Industry so

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anything that's I guess free from

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criticism or control they try to control

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and comedy if if a country or culture

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controls comedy then you know

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something's wrong because that's one of

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the most freest forms of entertainment

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you know you can say whatever you want

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do whatever you want CU people don't

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understand it's a joke so when you see

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there's a certain uh people trying to

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control it they you understand okay

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something's wrong because it's supposed

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to be taking funny it's not supposed to

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be taking literally or you know most

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people are smart enough to know okay he

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doesn't really mean that it's just for a

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joke you know so yes yeah yeah yeah uh

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so um I would like to move on to the

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things that you actually I was very much

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should I say okay uh I was surprised to

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find out that in Japan there are couple

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organizations uh claiming that black

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lives matter in Japan you know uh yeah

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and if you look uh look into Twitter

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there are many BLM accounts in Japan

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and I was surprised and I kind of

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noticed that they are trying to uh make

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it something that's not really a problem

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but to divide people you know could you

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please explaining in your thought what's

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happening in regards to those movement

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like what happened last year or you said

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like 2014 2015 that's why even you

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noticed the movement right yes yes yes

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um what I I found with this organization

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BLM uh its Founders admitted that

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they're marxists and they they they

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teach uh uh Marxist doctrines and

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communism they want communism socialism

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so behind it is a A system that once

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tried to take over the world before you

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know Soviet Russia or communist China um

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and I believe it's a way to change

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society to put in a new regime or a new

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kind of government so with BLM I think

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because America is so influential a lot

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of our problems we actually influence

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the rest of the world with so with uh

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BLM because America was screaming BLM so

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much uh I think other countries started

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to adopt that same narrative even if

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that narrative may not necessarily uh

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relate to the people living there

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because you know BLM I mean black Liv

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matter has nothing to do with Japan at

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all but I do believe because of its

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origin its background Communist Regime

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to change society I believe there are

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people in power like uh you know certain

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governments or or organizations they

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want to use this movement to install new

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laws or you uh style of you know just a

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living so I think it's basically it's

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not really about black lives matter but

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more about the agenda behind it however

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I do believe black lives matter has

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helped to uh divide more people I think

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in America it's made Americans a more

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aware of race even though there were

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polls saying that originally before

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Americans thought that racism was

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actually leaving the country but since

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black lives matter and George Floyd and

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everything that's happened since then

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it's causing more Division and more uh

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stir more hate to towards people but I

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think it's more of just a way to promote

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uh propaganda to divide people and to

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conquer people so I believe black lives

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matter does do destruction but I think

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it's more of the the the people behind

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it running it yeah if that makes any

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sense yeah what would you how would you

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explain to Japanese people uh because

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Japanese people like when we if we were

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told like we are we are being very um

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discriminatory against black people like

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Japanese would say oh you know we like

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to say s

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right have not done anything you know

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like we just wanted to apologize that

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makes it even more difficult to

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understand what's really happening

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because media will cut those parts yes

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and then use it actually something

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happened uh what would you see what

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would you see uh that's happening the

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people who claim that they have they

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were

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they had experience

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being discriminated against in Japan

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like what what do you see those people

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MH do I believe those people are being

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discriminated against yeah yeah yeah but

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what do you think in what's happened in

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Japan because you've been to Japan too

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right so this um one thing I will say I

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don't think Japan is a racist country at

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all I think because of Japan's history

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uh they're very isolated from the rest

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of the world and um they made maybe just

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more ignorant to maybe outside issues

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cuz Japan seems to be a very boxed in

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country um so I don't believe Japan is

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racist you know I think for Japanese

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they mainly see foreigners as G kokuin

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you know it's not hakuin or kokuin it's

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more you just not Japanese um so when

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they get accused of racism um I think

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it's because it's less I I think it's

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more because they may not know it's it's

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not because oh I hate black people that

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I'm going to do this it's more of okay

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we don't like foreigners cuz either

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foreigners don't know Japanese and I

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know many Japanese are if you don't know

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Japanese it's very nervous for them to

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communicate with you you know just part

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of the culture of communication you may

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not know the cultural uh rules and the

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societal rules so dealing with a

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foreigner may be a little bit more

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troubling I don't see that as racist I

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just see that as you know that's just

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natural people do things that are not

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familiar to you you're not really going

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to try to connect with this much uh

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however when it comes to you know BLM

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accusing Japan of racism um I I don't

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think

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I don't think uh you know Japan has any

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kind of thing against black people I

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think it's more of like when it comes to

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politics I know Japan really doesn't

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like typically the Japanese person

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doesn't like talking about politics it's

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a very decisive subject and I know a

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common thing with Japan is to keep the

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harmony with people um I think if Japan

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wants to clear its image up it needs to

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address these topics and understand that

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running away are not talking about it is

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going to worsen affect them or their

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image because it'll give the narrative

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that they are racist and they're like oh

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Su am I say I'm so sorry we don't mean

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to be that but it's like you're

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admitting to being racist when you're

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actually not it's just that it's more

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it's different than America where we had

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a a racist background we had tension

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between whites and blacks in Japan is

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more of just you're not a foreigner I

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mean you're not Japanese so I don't

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think the BLM narrative that there is

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some kind of system trying to hurt black

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people I don't think it's the same in

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Japan at

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all um I I think they are looking for a

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chance to

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uh make it more B bigger movement yes

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and they have not seen this opportunity

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yet in Japan I I that's what I what I

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see actually I live in Okinawa and so

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I'm originally from okwa and I still

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live in Okinawa and there are American

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bases so many local girls like American

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people yes and especially actually there

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are many girls who goes after black

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people yes like they are you know like

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they like hip hop they have

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a lot of ok ok yep y date

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so opposite you

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know so like it it's what what is really

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happening and what being told by media

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it's so different you know it's

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like so and um one of the thing I was

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wanted to I wanted to ask you more about

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was that uh in your video you were

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talking about you used to hate white

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people right and you kind of had

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opportunity to change yes your view yes

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could you explain like what

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happened uh why you hated white people

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right and then why you are not you don't

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hate white people now right uh so

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basically what happened was that uh I

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come from a very Pro black family um my

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dad at the time and a lot of my family

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members were either part of the Nation

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of Islam or rosarian and those religious

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faiths have very anti-white sentiments

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so religion is something Rel related to

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Pro blacks right um a lot of pro blacks

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are either uh they believe in uh black

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his uh black Israelites I believe that's

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the name of the organization uh the 5%

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nation or the Nation of Islam or

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rastafarianism which are basically a lot

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of fa face that a lot of black Americans

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believe or black Caribbeans believe and

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they have very anti-white sentiments in

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in what they believe in but U my family

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mainly was Christian but a lot of those

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talking points were throughout my family

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how you know white men are evil they

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done so much damage to the world and all

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of that stuff uh and for me growing up

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thankfully I've always been like a free

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thinker you know and I've always you

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know I I liked everybody it didn't

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matter if you were a white black Asian

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to me if you were cool I I I liked you

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but during 200 15 when the Black lives

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matter movement started uh coming up a

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lot of those black talking points were

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being hammered on everybody on social

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media from my family how white people

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were evil and suddenly over time it's

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like you started believing that because

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you see it all over the place do you

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know you know your friends are saying it

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your family saying it social media is

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telling you it so you're like this must

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be true So eventually uh I started

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having like anti-white sentiments I

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started saying like every white person

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is is blessed they have a better life

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than me they think they're better than

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me like I would look at a white person

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and automatically judge them just

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because based on their skin color

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something that Americans were taught not

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to do um during the Civil Rights era and

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basically long story short um it made me

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very bitter inside because I started

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hating people and I'm like this is a

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problem so the first thing I did was

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went to my pastor and I was just telling

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him about it and he basically told me

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that you know it's not good to hate

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anybody God created everyone equal

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everyone has you know messed up or done

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evil you no one's perfect so I I I

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couldn't see myself better than anybody

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and then the second thing that happened

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was actually online Ben Shapiro a big uh

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political commentator I found him online

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and I started watching his debates and

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his uh his uh his podcast show and a lot

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of the talking points he made made sense

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to me because I'm a very I'm very much a

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person that likes belief stuff based on

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facts and not my own opinion so just

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hearing him led me to other political

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voices Like Larry Elder Candace Owens

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Thomas soul I love his books and just

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from reading and just learning the truth

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I'm like man this whole leftist Dogma

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thing is a lie you know so that's kind

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of how I kind of woke up and you know

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became a politically aware as I am now

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so you took red pill red major red pill

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major red pill yeah it was a tough pill

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to swallow first but I I got it down I

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got it down yeah uh for Japanese people

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it's interesting to hear what you're

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saying because when we think about

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America it's like America you know like

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McDonald's hamburger

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right right super me yeah they speak

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English you know like Washington DC New

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York but uh I I've been uh traveling in

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United States for

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like maybe half a year this this uh

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since the election so I I learned that

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it's not just America like there are

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many uh people like Community or it's

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not just black people or white people

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there are many like communities or

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religion or what should I say like they

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have different

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culture you know so I I think what

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you're just explaining how you were

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raised when you were little it's the

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culture one one culture in America it's

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not a whole right uh could you please uh

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teach me a little bit more about like

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Black Culture or it's not a Black

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Culture I know there are many culture

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too and they have different dialect and

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you know could you please if what should

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we know to understand America I think

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America had a lot of founding principles

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that everyone can come here have the

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pursuit of happiness live the life they

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want um but I think with that when you

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have a a a a mixture of so many

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different races and people you need to

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be unified under one belief system

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because it's really about belief you

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know um if we have a whole bunch of

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people who live in the same Community

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who have a different view of the world

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or don't agree on certain principles

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they're going to be division because

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it's not really about skin color it's

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about what you believe in because even

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with black people there's Caribbean

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blacks there's African blacks there's

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American blacks and even in those groups

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we don't even like each other as much

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like a lot of uh Caribbean and and

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African blacks will tell you black

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Americans are lazy or they're ambitious

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or whatever or oh wait so black Amic an

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and Caribbean Americans are different we

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also have different cultures yes oh I so

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I'm I'm American and Caribbean so I know

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a little bit of both but uh just showing

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you that even if you are the same skin

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color like just having a different

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culture people may not like you so for

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example there's of course you know

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there's a beef with different

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conservations with Koreans and Japanese

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um even with whites the Scottish don't

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like the English you know there's always

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been beef between even races themselves

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I think for America what kept us

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together was the same values and the

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same uh World Views on life I think

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right now those World Views are being

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challenged by the radical left and

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that's what's causing more Division and

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of course we know what communism how it

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pretty much it tells a group of people

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you're being oppressed either you're too

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rich you're you're you're male you're

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either gay you're you're straight you're

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you know it's we're divided on those on

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those lines like it's white against

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black it's poor against Rich it's um you

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know you believe in God you don't

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believe in God I was like they're

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constantly trying to divide us and I

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think in America it's great that we are

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able to be the Melting Pot and we can

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have a a a sense of Harmony what we what

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we had so far but I think that uh if we

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don't share at least some core values in

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same world worldviews there's no way we

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can function as a society because we

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need to be on the same uh path or same

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thinking pattern to uh function as a

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society if that makes any sense yeah so

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there are many many like cultur yes but

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they are all United under one

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belief fundamental of of America yeah

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America exactly

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exactly I see and um I during my uh

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coverage last year uh I went to

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Washington DC or Portland OR many

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Dangerous Place Port yes oh yeah oh yes

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yes yes and uh I was kind of shocked how

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uh America is no longer a country of

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Freedom I'm afraid to say so but that's

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what I have experienced too uh in social

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media like I I'm Japanese and I'm seeing

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what's really happening and I just

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report as it is but like YouTube It's

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famous but I'm even me talking in

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Japanese about American politics or

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what's happening I'll be

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cancelled and I have experience in

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Hawaii you was like 5 years ago I was

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invited to talk about what's happening

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in Okinawa because we have huge leftist

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Movement try to get rid of American

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bases because they are pro CCP they want

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to make a good condition for CCP to

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invade Okinawa so the local people in

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Hawaii there are many people migrated

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from Okinawa so they are worried about

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their home country so I was invited to

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to talk but then when um the organizer

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was threatened to cancel my speech

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because according to them I'm a

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racist that's the goto you're racist yes

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yes and when I started to talk on the

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podium there was a women and men

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suddenly stood up and then said you got

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to speak in English because I was uh

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asked to speak in Japanese I was

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speaking in Japanese but they said like

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you're racist you're trying to um speak

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in Japanese because they do you do not

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want uh want us to understand you know

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what I mean like so they because you

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racist the Japanese people yes so they

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were basically saying like me talking in

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Japanese is uh discrim discriminatory

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against them because they

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cannot understand Japanese they want to

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understand me so that they can attack me

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more that was very interesting and

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experience and I I I asked them I

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thought America is a country of

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Freedom like why don't you let me speak

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right when when I started to argue I

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didn't start but the whole crowd was

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saying go out go you know they have to

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they were ow taken outside so it was

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very experience but I that was the when

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I learned something is strange in

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America and here we are now and I'm like

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witnessing America is falling apart and

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I'm very worried because whatever

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happens in America directly affects rest

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of the world especially Japan too yes

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and um as a young opinion leader um what

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would you see happening in your country

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now

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well I I think a lot of people compare

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America to Rome is that Rome wasn't

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defeated by outside power but fell from

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the inside cuz Rome was a powerful

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military State and America is a very

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power powerful military State I think

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the massive division we have culturally

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with different races but not only that

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the cultural breakdown of the family

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what it means to be a man what it means

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to be a woman you know what is the

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duties of of what is the purpose of

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people you

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know uh a a lot of different religious

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beliefs so we don't know what to believe

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and or what is true what is not true so

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the very Foundation the building blocks

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of a society are being attacked I think

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America's enemies know that they can't

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attack us directly so what they would do

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is they help promote propaganda to

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destroy the social Fabric and again once

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you uh attack the founding principles of

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how to make a country run the country is

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already already is is on its way to

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destruction so I would say America right

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now I've also heard there's also common

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theme a theme that the height of a

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country's power lasts about 250 years

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and they say America's either we've

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either reached 250 years or we're about

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to reach it so they say pretty much

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America is about to finish her run as

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the world superpower um but I also like

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you said I believe that whatever affects

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America affects the world and I think

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that many of uh other countries who have

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interest in you know dominating the

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world like China for example seeing

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America fall is a plus for them because

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now that's like one hindrance one big

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hindrance away from them achieving their

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goal so I think that if America Falls

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we'll definitely see a a fight for power

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with other countries but I also think

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that uh we won't be the same country

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again I think we'll be so divided that

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um America will lose her strength but a

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lot of people do uh compare her to Rome

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because that's how Rome fell it was it

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fell from the inside out because a lot

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of the foundations of Rome were being um

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destroyed yeah do what about about your

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friend or your family in black community

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like are you only the one like

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conservative or your friends pretty much

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have the same opinion or what what's um

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for the longest time I was the only

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conservative in my family yes uh even

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with my close friends um recently my

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sister is coming around and she's more

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conservative in interviews and we we

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agree a lot more on things now my older

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sister but uh since I was uh since I

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became politically we red pilled or

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conservative how many years ago or when

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was it it was

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2017 so this is about 5 years ago now

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about 5 years ago uh I was the only I

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was the only conservative and it was

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hard it was hard because being a black

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conservative as seen as like a oxymoron

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you're not supposed to exist you're

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either a black liberal yeah you're not

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supposed to exist you're either a black

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liberal leftist or you're nothing at all

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so you will be treated badly in the

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community yes oh I think a a I'm I

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believe this is common for any group of

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people but uh specifically for black

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Americans we have a thing called the

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black identity which means that if you

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don't act talk or believe a certain way

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you're not really considered black so

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for black conservatives we're not

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considered real black people because we

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don't think a certain way so yes so you

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know I think whites Asians and Latinos

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have more leverage in what they want to

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believe and they're still considered

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part of the group but as far as like

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black conservative you don't support BLM

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or the the racist narrative or the white

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supremist narrative then you're not

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considered really black so um and that's

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how they insult you they either call you

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Uncle Tom you're a bootlicking you know

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black guy you like you sucking up to

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white people all kind of really bad

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names but I think that's because a lot

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of the um white liberals and so-called

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black leaders have taken a narrative

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that unless you think a certain way you

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cannot be a black American so sadly they

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have robbed that image of black people

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so it's it's been rough yeah you do get

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a I get a lot actually I've gotten a lot

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more Hate by minorities and black people

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for being conservative than I have

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whites and part of the reason why I also

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became conservative because most of the

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struggles I face were actually from my

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own group because we have a very much a

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crab and EM Barrel mentality what uh

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crabing in a barrel in a barrel

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basically when a crab tries to leave a

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barrel the other crabs will grab it and

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drag it back down so if a black person

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is trying to improve their life speak

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proper English get a good education get

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a good job you're seeing as oh you think

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you're better than us you know so it's a

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uh other in politics too yes oh it's

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politics and and culture but they you

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know politics is Downstream from culture

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you know so but um but yeah even if

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you're not if you don't think the same

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or you're trying to better your life

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there's always trying to pull you back

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pretty much so you're not black enough

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you're not you're not really down with

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the brown as what they would say but

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yeah but yeah I fa I've had a lot more

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difficulty with my own people for my my

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viewer My Views yeah wow so then for you

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to speak

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up uh and make YouTube videos and talk

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about your own thoughts belief it's very

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hu huge deal yes yeah yes yes a lot of

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push back a lot of hate a lot of people

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saying I'm deceived and though you know

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I just want to be white and all these

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other kind of stuff yeah yeah why would

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you say to them or how do you overcome

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this

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attacks um me I just try to be as

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patient as possible with people uh I

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understand that you know I used to be in

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that mindset too so I got understand

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they haven't heard another Viewpoint cuz

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when you live your life boxed in like

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that we haven't heard the other side

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it's easy to to want to attack something

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but I would always try to tell people

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try to understand what the person is

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trying to say if you disagree you

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disagree but at least try to understand

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why the person thinks how did they come

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to that conclusion you know um I would

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try to you know be as you know mature as

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I possibly can because also how you

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react to these stuff also affects how

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people receive your message so also

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trying to be as mature try to outline my

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problems as much as poss my my my uh my

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viewpoints as much as possible but at

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the end of the day if they don't you

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know they still hate me whatever just

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just off your shoulders and move on

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there's not much you can do you know so

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I just pray that at least if you don't

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want to at least come to what I what I

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think is true at least consider why we

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we do think that way and try to

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understand people before you try to

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criticize them you know yeah is there

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any advice for people who wanted to

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convince or try to explain try to give

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opportunity to see different view like

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how would you do advice to a person

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trying to convince other people yes yes

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um I was saying do your research um know

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what you're talking about you know read

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books look at commentators because you

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have to know without a shadow of Doubt

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what you believe is true and then when

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people ask you okay where did you get

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this info from you can lead them to your

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sources you know because a lot of

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conservative views are based off facts

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and statistics and stuff like that um

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another thing I would say is don't look

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for B don't go out trying to look for

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battles I think people get too caught up

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in trying to argue with people I don't

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want to argue with anybody I just want

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to discuss have a discussion you know I

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think if we can sit down and have a good

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conversation and exchange ideas I think

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we'll we'll make a lot more progress and

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trying to like win an argument because

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it's less about looking for truth and

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more but I'm trying to beat you in a

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debate you know so I wouldn't go out

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there trying to look for fights but try

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to reason with people um understand that

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people are not going to like you and you

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just have to accept that fact but don't

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also how you respond to the backlash

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also uh uh says a lot about your

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character because if they can't if they

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can't argue your points they're going to

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attack your character so you want to

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make sure that you're walking with

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Integrity you know so carry yourself

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with dignity know what you're talking

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about but also don't look for fights and

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just be as truthful and honest as

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possible and whatever the result you get

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you get but just continue moving on and

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doing your best to you know trying to

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Enlighten people you

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oh okay thank you and uh we have 10 more

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minutes to go and so I want to move on

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to like why you love

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Japan hi because this uh question is

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very important for Japanese right

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because we are in school we are taught

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to hate Japan so when we see people like

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you we suddenly oh really Japan is such

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a good country proud back again right

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and so uh I want why you you love Japan

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so much to decided to make YouTube

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channel for Japanese people MH so I

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think like most westerners uh it starts

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with anime uh a lot of uh How the West

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Was introduced to Japan was through

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animation the Japanese animation and

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especially um I'm from that era of kids

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who grew up with watching anime on our

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local TV and I think over time as

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Internet also uh became more prominent

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in the 2000s we were introduced to more

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like Japanese style of entertainment you

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know music and all that so for me

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specifically the 2000s during my high

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school years when I really started

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getting to anime when I was kind of U in

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a way a nerd you know um and I think

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most people who are into anime are video

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games from Japan they eventually want to

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go to Japan so I wanted to go to Japan

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so I started researching about the

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culture and I just started to fall in

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love with Japan just the way they

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thought how the country came to be the

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societal rules was just so interesting

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to me and I think also with with that I

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also fell in love with just learning

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about other cultures in general but I

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just started getting a huge love for

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Japan and it it gravitated more from

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just liking the entertainment to

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actually studying about the country and

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when I also learned about the country

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like the problems Japan has it made me

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worried as well because Japan is a very

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influential country especially in Asia

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and I think Japan has a huge voice and

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right now when I got politically aware a

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lot of stuff I was learning about

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America I see Japan is kind of going

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through some similar things in a

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different way and for me is that I I

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wanted to make aware of these things are

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happening but also give uh try to get

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solutions to these problems as well so

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it started with anime but it didn't

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transferred to actually lik in the

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country itself especially when I went

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there to visit in 2014 and 15 I just

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it's a weird feeling I just felt like I

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was home it was just I know a lot of

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people say that but I just feel like

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very home not only that I had one of the

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best experiences of My Life um the

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people who hosted me treated me like

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family they washed my own clothes they

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fed me they didn't spend it they didn't

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allow me to spend any money they took me

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everywhere they loved me like they even

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cried when I left so to me to receive

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such Hospitality in my life like it just

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I'm like wow these these people are

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amazing of course not every Japanese

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person is like that but just my

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experience and people I've met you know

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I had I have nothing but love for Japan

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I just I just had a great time and I I

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love the country and I I I hate to see

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her fall you know yeah oh thank

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you and so you were there as an extend

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stud student or you were traveling by

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yourself I just traveling by myself yeah

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originally I wanted to go to school

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there but it never worked out that way

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but uh I met friends who are my friends

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for life who are like family to me and

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now we keep in contact and um one of my

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friends who I actually met online and

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met in Japan he actually helps me run

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the Brooklyn Tokyo Channel I have right

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now Ed danan um is his name um but uh

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yeah I was originally wanted to be a

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student but it didn't work out that way

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but now I just want to just talk about

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you

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yeah yeah I see I see um what what are

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the things that uh you Japanese people

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should be aware of because you said you

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wanted to wake Japanese people up right

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that's uh one of thing that I'm trying

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to do other Japanese too and I realized

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that I actually came here America to

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learn how American conservative people

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are fighting against liberalism but I

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learned that people here are also

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struggling too M and families are

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tearing apart and children are taking

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hostage like in school you you know

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thought brainwashed critical race Theory

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and all these other nonsense horrible

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you know so I I learned many from

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conservative conservative or real

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American people I should say but also I

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realized oh American people needs to

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wake up too yes yes yes yes yes yes it's

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like we see same kind kind of think in a

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different position right right right

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right what do you see Japanese people

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are what should I say not aware of or

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sleeping um I would say similar to

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America until Trump ran for president in

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2015 a lot of Americans were kind of

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ignorant to politics I think that event

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made Americans more aware and I think

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awareness is the first thing I think uh

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I know since World War II I've heard

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that uh America kind of made Japan very

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docile or avoiding politics or anything

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kind of heavy I think the Japanese

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people need to uh start researching

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again and getting into politics and

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understand who's running the country and

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where the country is going because I

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think when people are ignorant to what's

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going on it's a lot easier for people up

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top or different countries to infiltrate

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and change stuff because you don't know

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I think education is the first thing uh

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I would say also you you can't be afraid

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to talk about serious issues because if

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you don't it's kind of like I use the

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example of like cleaning your room your

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mom tells you to clean your room you

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just put all the things under your bed

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and it looks like it's clean but

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actually there's a lot of Filth still in

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there and it could get moldy so I think

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that avoiding these tough conversations

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are not going to help we need to have

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some sort of dialogue and not be afraid

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to talk about hard ideas but not only

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that I think doing your research and

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understanding how government works how

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people function how societies function

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knowing all these fundamentals will help

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you in um doing your research who to

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follow who who to vote for but I think

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that many Japanese should be aware of

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what's going on and understand that

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their country is under attack whether

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they know it or not and I think similar

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to America a lot of Americans are waking

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up now because we're seeing the pro the

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product of being ignorant to allowing

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these you know so-called leaders and

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politicians that take over and mess up

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the country so I think that for Japan my

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message would be you know do your

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research look look into things but don't

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be ignorant to what's going on look and

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uh look up the politicians that are

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running your cities and your in your

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country and do your research and uh get

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your voice out there I would

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say thank you yes and um especially uh

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living in

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Okinawa uh I grow up with some kind of

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like always in my mind CCP is after

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especially Okinawa because it's the

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entrance of the country you know yes and

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they they are claiming that okina is

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their their Island yes you know and our

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local uh Governor like politicians they

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don't fight and for example we it's like

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it happens almost every day uh Chinese

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Coast Guard ship will come closer to our

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Islands but they say they are doing

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Patrol in ja uh water territorial water

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in Japan right but then our governor

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said do we should we should not disturb

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their patrol that's what our

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politician saying so I'm really I'm

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trying to wake Japanese people up but at

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the same time people like you are

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warning Japanese people that's very

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helpful and I really appreciate yes and

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um I think I talked in the beginning um

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I think if even though we live in a

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different countries we have the same

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enemies yes and same phenomenon same

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problem so in order to I would say the

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the CC the CCP buying out our our

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politicians because we're having the

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same problem in America where Joe Biden

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sold out to China so a lot of these

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politicians not going to do anything

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because they're allegiances to China not

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their own country so yeah yeah yeah yes

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yeah so in order to protect Japan or

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United States for you uh it's very

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important to come closer like not only

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me working in Japan protect saying we

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need to protect Japan but we need to

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come closer each country yes and

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Patriots in each country need to come

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closer

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to help each other protect each other

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you know for example in Japan we have

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this BLM potential movement but if you

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could talk to us explaining what is

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really happening then like

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oh you know it's really um easier for

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asked understand rather than me saying

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BLM movement is not fake like I I can

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say that because I saw this in America

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and I talk to many black people too and

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but people like you if you could

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directly talk to Japanese people they'll

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believe me more since I am right I'm

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black so I guess my voice would reach

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them more than vice versa or let's say I

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was talking about Japan hearing it from

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you could probably reach them a lot more

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well depending on the subject but I get

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what you're trying to say right we come

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together to help each other out because

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our voices are needed for for whatever c

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yeah mhm so I really appreciate what you

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do and I hope you will keep doing what

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you're doing and eventually I I really I

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really wanted to invite American

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conservative people to Japan yes yeah I

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would love that I really hope you could

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come like yes because now we have um

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government stupid restriction that no

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foreigners can enter Japan into Japan

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and it's destroying the country so I I

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really hope that Jaan will go back go go

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to what should I say the healthy right

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healthy environment yeah yes and people

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like beneficial people like you would be

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will be able to come to my our country

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thank you yes I appreciate that thank

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you okay uh so lastly could you give

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Japanese people message like you can

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introduce your YouTube channel or like

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any message to anything you want to talk

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to perfect

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uh hello everyone um so if you want to

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follow me on social media I do have a

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guys want to check out our content uh

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you're more than welcome to do so send

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me a DM because I do reply back to

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messages but uh yeah thank you guys for

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the follow thank you guys for the

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support really appreciate you guys and

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uh go to

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Japan okay thank you very much thank you

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thank you for having I hope this

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friendship will start yes yes I do as

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well I can friend yeah thank you yes yes

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thank you very much thank you thank you

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thank you right

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