What are The Best Places to Move if You're Building Wealth?

Offshore Citizen
9 Jul 202122:00

Summary

TLDRIn this insightful video, Michael from Offshore Citizen addresses the question of where individuals should consider moving to build wealth. He emphasizes that while wealth can theoretically be built anywhere, certain locations offer unique advantages for success. Michael suggests that the best places to start are often those with a strong social safety net, like the US or certain European countries, which allow individuals to take risks without severe consequences. As one's business grows, he advises considering a move to locations with a thriving entrepreneurial community, good infrastructure, and a favorable tax environment, such as Dubai, Portugal, or Puerto Rico. Michael also discusses the importance of cultural factors, such as a location's work ethic and lifestyle, which can significantly impact productivity and the ability to build wealth. He concludes by encouraging viewers to consider their personal circumstances and the specific needs of their business when choosing a location to maximize their chances of success.

Takeaways

  • 🌍 Location is crucial for building wealth, with certain 'hotbeds' being more conducive to success in specific industries.
  • 🏦 High tax rates and regulations are less impactful on wealth creation than a supportive ecosystem for growth.
  • 🎬 Success in a particular field often requires being in the right place; for example, Hollywood for movies, Silicon Valley for tech startups.
  • πŸ’Ό The importance of access to capital, talent, social circles, and job opportunities in building wealth.
  • 🧡 Starting a business is easier in places with a strong social safety net, allowing for risk-taking without severe consequences.
  • πŸ“ˆ Wealth generation is not just about low taxes and low regulation; it's also about the enabling structure for success.
  • πŸš€ For early-stage entrepreneurs, first-world countries with established infrastructure and social services can be advantageous.
  • 🌱 As businesses grow, entrepreneurs may relocate to places with a higher concentration of expats, entrepreneurs, and a business-friendly environment.
  • πŸ’° The cultural aspect of a location matters; some cultures foster productivity and hustle, while others may prioritize leisure.
  • ⛱️ Lifestyle benefits of a location should not overshadow the functional aspects needed for building wealth, such as access to health care and low living costs.
  • 🌟 Success stories are more likely to come from places that have exhausted ideas, where bringing innovation can give a competitive edge.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of discussion in the video?

    -The main topic is about identifying the best places for individuals to build wealth, considering various factors such as tax rates, regulation, social safety nets, and the presence of successful ecosystems in different locations.

  • Why does the speaker suggest looking at places where wealth is already being built?

    -The speaker suggests this approach to extrapolate backwards and understand what factors in those places are contributing to wealth creation, which can provide insights into what makes a location conducive to building wealth.

  • What are some of the factors that the speaker mentions as important for building wealth in a location?

    -Factors mentioned include population dynamics, language, tax rates, regulation, social safety net, weather, geographic location, access to capital, talent, social circles, and job opportunities.

  • Why does the speaker believe that the tax rates might not be as significant for someone just starting out?

    -The speaker believes that for someone starting out, who is not making a large income, the impact of taxes is relatively small compared to the benefits of being in an ecosystem that fosters growth and success.

  • What role does the social safety net play in building wealth, according to the speaker?

    -The social safety net allows individuals to take risks and possibly fail without severe consequences, which is important for innovation and wealth creation. It provides a basic level of security that can be crucial when starting out.

  • Why does the speaker suggest that certain high-tax places like Denmark and Sweden produce more successful startups?

    -The speaker suggests that the social safety nets in these countries allow individuals to take risks without the fear of severe financial fallout, which can lead to more innovation and startup success.

  • What does the speaker mean when they talk about 'field-specific advantages'?

    -The speaker refers to the idea that certain locations may offer unique benefits or opportunities that are particularly advantageous to specific industries or fields, such as Hollywood for the movie industry or Silicon Valley for technology startups.

  • Why might someone choose to move their business to a different location as it grows?

    -As businesses grow, they may outgrow the benefits of their original location. Factors such as less favorable laws, higher costs, or the need for a broader talent pool may necessitate a move to a new location that better supports their expansion.

  • What are some of the challenges someone might face when trying to build wealth in a place like Italy or Spain?

    -Challenges might include a culture that is more focused on leisure and less on hustle, oppressive weather conditions that can affect productivity, and potentially less access to capital and entrepreneurial networks.

  • Why does the speaker recommend certain 'first world' countries for individuals starting out?

    -The speaker recommends these locations because they often have a good social safety net, infrastructure, and access to services that can support individuals as they build their wealth and businesses.

  • What is the speaker's view on the importance of cultural fit and lifestyle when choosing a location to build wealth?

    -The speaker believes that cultural fit and lifestyle are important considerations. A location that supports productivity, offers a good quality of life, and aligns with the individual's work ethic and goals can be more conducive to wealth creation.

Outlines

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🌟 Identifying Wealth-Building Locations

Michael discusses the best places for individuals to build wealth, emphasizing that while wealth can theoretically be built anywhere, certain 'hotbeds' are more conducive to success. He invites viewers to comment on the factors they believe are significant for wealth creation in a location, such as population dynamics, language, tax rates, regulation, social safety nets, weather, and geographic location. Michael suggests that understanding the success factors of these places can inform where to build wealth.

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🌱 Stages of Wealth Building and Their Impact

The second paragraph explores how different circumstances impact individuals at various stages of wealth building. Michael uses examples to illustrate that when people struggle with basic necessities, it's challenging to innovate or build wealth. He contrasts this with the situation in countries like Denmark and Sweden, where a strong social safety net allows people to take risks and potentially leads to the creation of high-value startups, or 'unicorns.' He also touches on the idea that taxes are less impactful when one is not making significant income and that cultural factors, such as a focus on productivity versus leisure, can influence wealth creation.

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πŸš€ Starting Wealth Building in First World Countries

In the third paragraph, Michael proposes that starting wealth building in first world countries might be advantageous due to their social safety nets, infrastructure, and services. He suggests that once an individual has some savings, experience, and connections, they can leverage these environments to build momentum. He also discusses the importance of having access to capital, a supportive social circle, and a conducive environment for building a side hustle. Michael contrasts the benefits of starting in a higher-income country with the challenges of starting in a lower-income country, where wages and resources may be more limited.

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🌐 Location Independence and Scaling Wealth

The fourth paragraph focuses on the idea that once an individual has achieved a certain level of success, the choice of location can change. Michael suggests that for online businesses or those with location independence, the choice of location is less critical. However, for those who need to be in a particular geographic area for their business, he recommends places with a high degree of expats, entrepreneurs, good infrastructure, and low taxes. He also discusses the limitations of certain locations in supporting businesses as they scale from six to seven or eight figures and suggests places like Dubai, Puerto Rico, Portugal, and Singapore as potential locations for scaling wealth.

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πŸ™οΈ Industry-Specific Locations for Wealth Building

In the fifth and final paragraph, Michael addresses industry-specific locations for wealth building. He talks about the importance of being in an environment that supports the right deals for industries like real estate. He mentions the benefits of starting in countries with a good safety net and then focusing on specific cities within those countries that have a strong entrepreneurial culture. Michael also discusses the potential of going to locations where there's a shortage of ideas and being the one to bring innovation, which can lead to success in markets that might otherwise be considered less favorable for wealth creation.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Wealth Building

Wealth building refers to the process of accumulating assets and increasing one's net worth over time. In the video, it is the central theme as the speaker discusses various factors that can influence an individual's ability to build wealth in different geographical locations. The concept is explored in the context of both personal financial strategies and the impact of external factors such as tax rates and social safety nets.

πŸ’‘Location Factors

Location factors are the specific characteristics of a geographical area that can influence an individual's or a business's success and wealth creation. The video emphasizes the importance of considering factors like tax rates, regulation, social safety nets, and access to capital when choosing a location to build wealth. For instance, the speaker mentions how certain places like Silicon Valley are hotbeds for tech startups due to a conducive ecosystem.

πŸ’‘Tax Rates

Tax rates are the percentages at which an individual or business is taxed on their income. The video discusses how tax rates can affect wealth building, suggesting that while lower tax rates might seem advantageous, the overall ecosystem for growth is more critical. It contrasts places with low tax rates but less wealth creation to those with higher tax rates but more opportunities for success.

πŸ’‘Regulation

Regulation refers to the rules and laws that govern economic and social activities. In the context of the video, the speaker discusses the impact of regulation on business growth and wealth creation. It is suggested that while lighter regulation might be appealing, the overall support structure for success, which can exist in more heavily regulated areas, is more important.

πŸ’‘Social Safety Net

A social safety net is a collection of government programs designed to protect individuals from hardship due to unemployment, old age, and other risks. The video explores how a strong social safety net can enable individuals to take risks and innovate, as seen in countries like Denmark and Sweden, which have a high number of successful startups.

πŸ’‘Entrepreneurial Culture

Entrepreneurial culture refers to an environment that encourages and supports individuals in starting new businesses and pursuing innovative ideas. The video highlights the importance of an entrepreneurial culture in wealth creation, noting that certain cities like Austin, Texas, and Dubai have strong such cultures that foster success.

πŸ’‘Infrastructure

Infrastructure refers to the basic physical and organizational structures needed for the operation of a society or enterprise, such as transportation, communication, and healthcare facilities. The video discusses the role of good infrastructure in enabling business operations and wealth creation, with the speaker noting that places with well-developed infrastructures are more conducive to success.

πŸ’‘Expatriate Entrepreneurs

Expatriate entrepreneurs are individuals who move to a different country to start a business or work. The video suggests that being around a community of expatriate entrepreneurs can be beneficial for wealth creation, as they often form networks and clusters that contribute to a favorable business environment.

πŸ’‘Cultural Shift

Cultural shift refers to changes in the values, behaviors, and norms of a society. The video touches on the idea that an individual's ability to adapt to a new culture can influence their success in building wealth in a different country. It suggests that those who can make the cultural shift may find success in regions like Asia, where there are large markets and opportunities.

πŸ’‘Economic Mobility

Economic mobility is the ability of individuals to move up or down the income ladder over time. The video discusses how economic mobility is influenced by the starting point of an individual or a region. It contrasts regions where people are struggling with basic necessities and have less economic mobility to those with more opportunities for upward mobility.

πŸ’‘Risk Taking

Risk taking is the willingness to take on risks in the pursuit of greater rewards. In the context of the video, the speaker talks about how a social safety net can enable individuals to take more risks, such as starting a business, because they have a safety net to fall back on if they fail.

Highlights

Wealth can theoretically be built anywhere, but certain 'hotbeds' are more conducive to success.

Identifying factors significant to wealth building in a location rather than personal characteristics is crucial.

Examining places where wealth is currently being built can help extrapolate what leads to wealth creation.

Field-specific advantages are important; for example, Hollywood for movies or Silicon Valley for tech startups.

Tax rates are a small factor relative to an ecosystem that fosters growth.

Access to capital, talent, and social circles are often more critical than tax benefits for building wealth.

Wealth generation is not proportional in all regions, pointing to structural differences affecting success.

The level of personal journey influences the set of circumstances that can aid in wealth creation.

Struggling with basic necessities can hinder innovation and progress.

Denmark and Sweden have a high per capita rate of producing unicorn companies, despite high taxes and regulations.

Social safety nets can enable risk-taking and failure without severe consequences.

Taxes matter less when you're not making significant income; the focus should be on growth and opportunity.

Cultural aspects that foster productivity and action are more important than a relaxed and leisurely environment for wealth building.

Starting a business in locations with a strong entrepreneurial culture and support system is beneficial.

As businesses grow, entrepreneurs often move to locations with better infrastructure and regulations.

Eastern European countries can be good for initial growth, but may not support scaling to higher levels.

Places like Dubai, Puerto Rico, and Portugal are suggested for the next stage of business growth.

For online businesses, Eastern Europe offers low taxes and good infrastructure, but may lack in talent pool for scaling.

Innovative ideas in markets where local innovation is low can provide a competitive edge.

Leaving and then re-entering a market can provide a new perspective and competitive advantage.

Transcripts

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welcome back everyone michael here with

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offshore citizen

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the last few days we had a video on the

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subject of

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where my wealthiest clients are moving

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this was a question that some of our

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people had in the comments and it

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spurred another question

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in the comment which was okay great

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these are you know people have already

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built wealth

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what about for people who are wanting to

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build where are the best places for

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those people to go and today i'm going

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to discuss that now

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of course you know a person in theory

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can build wealth anywhere

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and so you know i think the more

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interesting thing is to say

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all right how do we identify what are

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the

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key hotbeds that are going to be most

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responsible

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for creating some kind of success and

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probably some of the answers are going

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to disappoint you

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that being said hopefully they are

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useful so

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i'm going to start off the conversation

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by asking you this question

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what factors do you believe are most

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significant or most

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important in building wealth

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in other words and i'm talking about

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that from the perspective of

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a location right so we're not talking

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about the personal characteristics that

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somebody has

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we're not talking about you know

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something like that but rather what

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if you were to choose a location what

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factors in that location

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are most significant in someone building

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wealth

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okay and so would love to hear from you

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in the comments let me know and let's uh

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let's kind of explore this

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so i mean we can look at a pretty broad

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range of criteria

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right we can look at okay the population

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dynamics in the country we can look at

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things like language we can look at

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things like tax rates we can look at

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things like regulation

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we can look at things like social safety

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net we can look at things like weather

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we can look at things like geographic

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location

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probably 10 other things right

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i'm going to imply or suggest to you

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that the most objective way to figure

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this out

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is to look at places where wealth is

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being built

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and then extrapolate backwards to say

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okay

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what is it about those places that's

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resulting in that wealth being built

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and i think it's pretty apparent if you

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start thinking about this

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that there is no general answer meaning

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that

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depending on the field you're in there

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are field specific advantages let's use

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a simple historic example

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if you wanted to be a big shot in the

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movie industry you pretty much had to go

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to hollywood

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right that's just kind of that's where

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movies were being made if you were to go

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to

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rural missouri a very low chance that

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you're going to

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you know have big success in the movie

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industry just

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isn't a movie industry there now you

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might say hey well maybe rural missouri

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or let's pick a better example maybe

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wyoming or you know

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nevada or florida or something like this

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the tax rates are better

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right so you know that should be good

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turns out that's a small thing

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the the amount of tax is small as an

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impact

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relative to an ecosystem that fosters

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that growth right

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likewise we can turn around and we can

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say well if you want to be a big shot in

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finance

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where do you go well you probably go to

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new york right

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if you're saying hey you want to be

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successful

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in doing tech startups well you would go

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to silicon valley

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and obviously there's kind of global

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equivalence of this right you have

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places like hong kong and places like

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london and so on and so forth around the

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world but

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in those industries there was this

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microcosm

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that helped to make you successful

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within that space

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that's a super interesting thing to

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think about right what are the elements

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that go into that success

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sometimes it's access to capital

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sometimes it's access to talent

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sometimes it's the social circle that

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you're exposed to

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sometimes it's you know job

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opportunities

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etc etc right interestingly

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these are typically some pretty high tax

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places right so the the bias

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for people watching this channel might

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be hey listen you want to go to the

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lowest tax place with the least

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regulation

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maybe the lowest cost of labor and you

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know that's going to be your success

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point

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the evidence does not really support

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that right we can generally see that

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there's not a lot of wealth

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being generated in africa why not really

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interesting

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right uh there's not a lot of wealth

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being generated

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in latin america proportionally why not

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you know

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something's going on there there's

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not a lot of wealth being built in you

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know southern europe

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relative to northern or western europe

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why not

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right and of course part of that is the

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starting point

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right you say okay well when you're

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starting with very little

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then you're going to be in a different

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situation than when you have a lot

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but there's also just a lot of enabling

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structure

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around creating success and as i thought

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about this

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topic one of the things that came to

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mind is that

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depending on the level that you're at

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personally in your journey

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there's a very different set of

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circumstances that might serve you so

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let's use an example

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if you're struggling to just get by then

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the stress

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of that struggle probably hurts you more

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than most other factors are going to

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help you

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all right so let's use a simple example

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if you're saying hey listen i'm worried

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that i won't be able to pay my bills

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right i'm worried i might lose my job

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and if i lose my job i'm not going to

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you know

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be able to like do anything i'm going to

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be debt ridden etc etc

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well that's probably a negative that's

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pretty hard to counter balance

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right once you move to a point where

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you're like okay great i have

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some savings and i have some experience

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and i have some connections and i've got

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a little bit of momentum

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that's very different than when you're

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at that starting point

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and this probably explains to a large

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extent why

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say africa has a hard time producing a

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lot of wealth right is

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you simply have people who are to a

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large extent

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struggling with the basic necessities

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when you're struggling with basic

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necessities it's hard to be innovative

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it's hard to work on kind of furthering

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things it's also interesting

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if you look statistically more unicorns

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tend to come out of

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unicorns are a company like startups

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that gave a billion dollar valuation

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per capita tend to come out of denmark

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and sweden

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than out of pretty much any other part

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of the world and

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you can say well hang on a minute aren't

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these socialist type countries aren't

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they high tax aren't they high

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regulation

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aren't they you know the wages are high

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etc yeah all that is true

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so what is it about that ecosystem that

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works and i'm going to suggest to you

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that part of it

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is that people are in a position where

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they can take risks and fail because

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they have a social safety net that is

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protecting them

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that doesn't mean that it fosters very

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well as you grow most of those companies

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are typically going to start moving

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out of those countries as they grow past

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a certain point and you've seen examples

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of this with companies like spotify

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that end up deciding to as they build

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further offices locate them outside of

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that region

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because the landlord tenant laws aren't

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good the employment rules

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don't favor that company etc but

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when you're getting started having that

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basic taken care of

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is really important and there's

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different ways that can happen that can

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happen through the state that can happen

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through family

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that can happen at a level where you've

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already got some establishment but it

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would be

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disingenuous not to recognize that

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likewise something like taxes don't

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matter too much when you're not making

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money

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right so whereas if you're making

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a million dollars or two million dollars

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a year the effect on

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compounding of having 50 of that

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go to taxes can be pretty substantial

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right whereas if you're saying hey

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listen

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you're only making i don't know let's

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say let's use

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canada as an example your corporate tax

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rate on the small business level

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which is below 500 000 canadian dollars

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per year

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is depending on the province like 12 so

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you know this isn't so bad right it's

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really once you go above that 500 000

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canadian dollars level that it starts to

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become an issue a lot of places have

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graduated tax rates

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right many many examples like this where

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the tax burden is not so bad on the

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lower end and so what does it matter

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what the top tax bracket is which is the

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one we tend to focus on right

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so in that sense i think it's worth

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considering

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the next thing that i think is worth

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considering is are you in a culture

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which fosters making things happen

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versus are you in a culture

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that fosters kind of relaxation and

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leisure

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and in this sense i think generally

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speaking i just spent a week in italy

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and you know it was great you know you

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go to the italian cafe but i was

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mentioning to my wife you know if i was

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living in italy i would definitely take

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a siesta in the afternoon

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it's july it's hot in italy what are you

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gonna do right it's uh

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it's just hard to be productive i

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remember spending a few months in bali

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a couple years ago and you know we were

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just talking about

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it was hard to get work done because the

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heat and humidity are quite oppressive

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right if you're in that situation it's

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gonna be

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gonna be tougher for you so whereas

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there's things that you may favor from a

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lifestyle standpoint that seem really

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great

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that may not really support you that

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much from a

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functionality building standpoint i have

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some

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good clients friends who you know built

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really successful businesses

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who went to places like albania to build

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and basically they're like hey you know

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i spent the whole time

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pretty much in my apartment i would go

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to the grocery store in the gym and that

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was it

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these three places just work work work

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it was very easy to do that

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in this environment because there wasn't

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a lot of distractions

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the cost of living was low in that

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particular case there were people around

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who spoke some more language to them

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there's

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some advantages like that at the same

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time if you're going to have a lot of

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friction

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in getting basic things done so for

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example you know i'll spend a lot of

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time at a computer typing and it wound

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up hurting my back over time

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well if i can't take care of my basic

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health then

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you know quickly the amount of energy

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that i can dedicate

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to being productive and effective

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decreases

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quite a bit right so what i would

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propose to you

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is that when you're getting started you

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want to start at some place where your

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base level is taken care of which is why

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it's not a terrible idea to start in a

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place like

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london a place like the us uh you know

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whether it's new york or whether it's

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you know san francisco or something like

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that

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uh it's not a bad idea to start in a

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place like netherlands

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right these places when you're kind of a

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solo operator

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and you can gain access to some of these

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services and infrastructure

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and maybe you're somebody who you're

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from there so as a result you have this

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social safety net and you can have a

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part-time job

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that's very different right if you're in

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a situation where it's like

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imagine let's contrast these two

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situations you're in germany

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right and you can have a part-time job

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and then you're building a side hustle

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versus union bulgaria and you can have a

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side hustle well the reality is that

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your wages in bulgaria are probably like

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700 euros a month or something like that

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versus maybe

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what like 3 000 euros a month and your

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costs aren't proportionally higher

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and as a result you're in a situation

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where you're actually better off

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being in say germany which is why lots

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of people leave bulgaria to go to

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germany

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and you have more resources to dedicate

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to this side hustle

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okay which is important right you need

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capital in order to do that

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likewise your circle of friends people

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who can maybe contribute the kind of

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friends and family

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who may throw in money is better

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when you're in an environment where

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people have some extra money versus

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in places where people don't have some

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extra money so that's also important

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so giving that a general idea i'm going

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to say

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if you're getting started i would say

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some of these kind of

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what we call first world countries are

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probably actually better places to start

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in many regards

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as you hit a certain level where you say

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okay i've had some success

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i'm doing you know i've got a six figure

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a year business

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then at that point in time i think

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depending on your business

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if your business is online that's quite

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different than if your business is in

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person

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right but if you're in a situation

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let's assume that you have location

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independence it doesn't matter where you

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are because a lot of businesses still do

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right assuming that they aren't then i

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would say

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places that make sense to go at that

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stage are places where number one have a

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high degree

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of expats entrepreneurs people who are

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doing things builders let's call them

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that they're builders

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who you can be around number two it's

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relatively easy to do business

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and to live right living is the

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convenience of living

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should not be underestimated and number

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three

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it is going to be relatively

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good infrastructure relatively low tax

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basically you're able to throw what it

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is that you have into there and probably

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also not a place that is

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uh very distracting in terms of

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lifestyle so this i think is

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maybe one of the good reasons why a lot

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of in spite of the

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you know on paper some favorable rules

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you don't see a lot of great success

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stories coming out of places like malta

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right

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in that sense what would those places be

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okay

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all right so i would suggest to you

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that some of those places could be some

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of the eastern european countries

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maybe if you've relocated i've seen

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quite a few people

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have their success stories and they kind

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of relocate there but i think that they

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you only grow up to a certain point so i

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think

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it's a good place to go from hey i've

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got some momentum but it's not that

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strong

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to hey listen we you know it's kind of

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like a good place to go from six to

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seven figures so let's call it that

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okay so for example places like bulgaria

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places like ukraine

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ukraine maybe a little bit less because

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there's some advantages to the financial

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infrastructure within the eu

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but you know some some countries like

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that whether it's hungary

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et cetera these countries though tend to

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top out i find

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they don't tend to support you very well

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in going from

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seven figures to eight figures right

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that range there

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maybe you're going to look at places

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more like dubai you may look in the u.s

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at places more like puerto rico there's

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a great social circle of entrepreneurs

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there

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maybe you're going to look at places

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like

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portugal that could be an interesting

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interesting way to go

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maybe you're going to look at places

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like if you can get in there singapore

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if you're doing something that's going

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to require raising capital you're

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talking about

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the us you're talking about london

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you're talking about

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maybe some of the other places i mean

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depending on which market you're

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appealing to

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you could be in a situation where

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singapore's venture capital scene might

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be useful for you

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you might find that china's is useful to

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you again like that's going to be a

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tougher one to access depending on you

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know your familiarity with the region

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and language and you know the different

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players etc but

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could be could be useful those are

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places that i would

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typically look all right and

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yeah i i would tend to go to those

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places would i go to

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places like georgia i think george is a

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little far out

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i don't see people hanging out in

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georgia and very successfully building

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businesses i see them kind of like

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staying at a certain level it's like

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okay you can go there and you can live

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inexpensively and you can keep more of

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your money and you can kind of hang out

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but i don't see people building there i

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see quite a bit building out of malaysia

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although that might be a function of the

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population size and the less to do with

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the percentage of the overall population

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that's having some degree of success

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again i think a lot of people have gone

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to portugal and so i think that

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entrepreneurial community is going to

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foster a lot more growth out of portugal

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than has happened

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historically historically portugal

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wasn't so great similar deal with puerto

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rico

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right a lot of because people have gone

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to puerto rico there's an ecosystem that

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now creates

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uh success that wasn't there in the past

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london obviously is a place that uh kind

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of if you're wanting to do that jump

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from

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seven to eight i would say like uk

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in general has been a pretty pretty good

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place even though

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it's caught a lot of painfulness to it

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let's talk about some other industries

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right if you're talking about something

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like real estate well you know you want

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an environment that supports

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the right deals so i talked to a client

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a while ago who was mentioning

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you know he was in germany for a bunch

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of time and you know it was really

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difficult to make it work

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went to australia and he's like hey it's

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easy to make money in australia

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australia i'm a big critique a big

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critic of the ato

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and you know their rules and all these

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kinds of things but the truth is

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if you're in the real estate game

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australia has been in a boom

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right that's just the way that it goes

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there's easy access to financing

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people understand how to do construction

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and get things done and flip and all of

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this

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stuff that goes into being able to

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carry out successful deal making similar

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for certain parts of the u.s right if

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you want to go and do

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various different real estate deals

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buying flipping et cetera

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there's a big infrastructure for that

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can you do the same thing in italy

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not so much the capital appreciate even

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though you can go and buy properties

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quite cheap

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the capital appreciation isn't there in

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order to be able to do this

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the ability to quickly go in and do

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renovations and flip etc

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not there same thing lots of examples

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like that

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so yeah i would say

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netherlands is an interesting place to

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start uh

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just as in fact like in general these

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countries that have a good safety net i

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think are good places to start

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now within those places i would say that

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there are certain ecosystems for example

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if i was in canada i would focus more on

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toronto than i would

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on any other city and the reason for

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this

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is i noticed that there's more of an

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entrepreneurial culture more of a

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culture of getting things done whereas

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there's more of that leisure culture

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that you get in places like vancouver i

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love vancouver i think it's a great city

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but it's less about hustle it's less

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about

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making things happen it's more about

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lifestyle and when you want to build

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something

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you don't want that distraction okay so

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that would be an idea

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likewise if we were to go and look at

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the us in general i would say that east

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coast

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tends to be more of that than west coast

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i do see quite a bit of success that

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comes out of kind of the austin texas

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area so

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i think that's again a great place to

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maybe

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go in and build things from like the if

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you're american

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you know and you've kind of had some

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success etc you can go and plug into a

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great community there

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and have a bunch of success that's

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probably where i would go if i was

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not if i was living in the u.s or

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something would be somewhere like that

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maybe i would go and check out uh

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someplace like puerto rico just because

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the tax environment is so good but i

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think it makes sense only after you

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reach a certain financial level

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places like florida i think the climate

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just works against you which is

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interestingly

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it's kind of ironic because you know you

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would suggest that the same would be

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true in texas but i think you just built

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this community that's

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more uh again more like getting things

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done

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in there i think that again uae right

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now

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increasingly in particular dubai has

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increasingly a community which is

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really strong in that regard and

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yeah then i would look at if you're able

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to do it online

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then it's useful to go to somewhere in

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eastern europe

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where you can get low taxes low costs

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kind of less distractions

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and just like grind it's not so good

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from the ecosystem standpoint

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but you can get good infrastructure so

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your internet infrastructure is

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fantastic

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your infrastructure for hiring people is

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fantastic so if you need that proximity

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as power get some people in

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it's good for that initial level until

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you start to tap out the talent base

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when you start to tap with the talent

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space then you need to go somewhere

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where you have

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a broader talent pool and that tends to

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be

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maybe you can do some stuff in asia if

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you're able to make

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that cultural shift work for you

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especially if you're somebody from that

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region then you know i see

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lots of success coming out of there or

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alternatively maybe you end up having to

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go to some other country that has a

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larger population that you can tap into

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and build accordingly the last thing i'm

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going to mention

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is there is something to be said for

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going into environments

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where they've exhausted ideas okay

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this was a conversation i was having the

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other night when i was having dinner

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with somebody in italy

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and native italian somebody was building

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business there et cetera

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and was just discussing hey listen like

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there's a shortage of ideas here so if

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you're the person who brings ideas

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that brings opportunity i thought that

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was interesting i don't have personal

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experience with that

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most of the italians that i know have

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left italy but i do know a few people

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who have come in

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and really done phenomenally well in the

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italian market

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in part by being able to be innovative

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and fast moving and

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on top of it and tapping into a pretty

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niche market

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which would normally not be tapped into

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this being said

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in most cases they do that by first

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leaving and then kind of passporting

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back in i've seen the same thing in the

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french market

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people who leave the french market and

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then sell back into the french market

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because there's less competition i've

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seen something similar with people who

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are

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not in the spanish market but they leave

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the spanish market

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in this case it's not just spain we're

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talking about latin america but they're

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able to capitalize on this large market

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using that external

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launch pad so i hope that gives some

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ideas

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makes uh makes things make sense for you

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clearly you know beyond that i've done

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the previous video where i was talking

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about you know

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when you start getting to past a certain

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point i think it's just fairly obvious

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that the value proposition of the

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savings

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uh by being able to you know have an

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environment that's supportive

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of wealth is quite different so anyway i

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