04 Response to a Materialist Objection Why Islam is True with Shaykh Hamza Karamali
Summary
TLDRIn this presentation, the speaker argues for the truth of Islam by asserting that God exists as a necessary being, essential for explaining the contingent nature of the universe. The argument refutes materialist objections that deem the concept of God as arbitrary, emphasizing that both the universe and the Big Bang are contingent and require an explanation beyond themselves. The speaker highlights the fallacy of materialism, which assumes all existence is material, and dismisses the question of 'Who made God?' as invalid. Ultimately, the argument for God's existence stands firm against such objections, reaffirming the rational basis for belief in Islam.
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Q & A
What is the main goal of the presentations discussed in the script?
-The main goal is to demonstrate why Islam is true by evaluating the evidence supporting and opposing the claim.
How does the speaker define the claim 'Islam is true'?
-The speaker defines it as the belief that God created the universe with a purpose and sent messengers to guide humanity toward eternal happiness in the afterlife.
What is the significance of the claim that 'God exists' in the context of the presentations?
-It is the most important subclaim supporting the larger claim that Islam is true, and it serves as the foundation for the subsequent arguments presented.
What is the materialist objection to the claim of God's existence?
-Materialists argue that claiming 'God made everything the way that it is' is an arbitrary solution and question, 'Who made God?'
How does the speaker respond to the materialist objection regarding the arbitrariness of ending the explanation at God?
-The speaker argues that this objection fails to recognize that contingent facts cannot ultimately explain themselves; a necessary being, or God, must exist to account for the existence of contingent facts.
What does the speaker mean by 'contingent' and 'necessary' in the context of existence?
-'Contingent' refers to things that could exist differently or not at all, while 'necessary' refers to a being that must exist and does not depend on anything else for its existence.
What fallacy does the speaker identify in materialist reasoning?
-The speaker identifies the fallacy of materialism, which erroneously concludes that because all observed objects are material, everything that exists must also be material.
Why is the question 'Who made God?' considered a loaded question?
-It presupposes that God needs to be made, which contradicts the argument that God is a necessary being who does not require anything else for existence.
What characteristics of the physical universe do contingent objects share, according to the speaker?
-Contingent objects in the physical universe share characteristics such as location, size, motion, and change, all of which require explanation by a necessary being.
What conclusion does the speaker reach regarding the existence of God?
-The speaker concludes that God is not an arbitrary solution but a reasoned conclusion based on the necessity of a non-contingent, non-material being to explain the existence of contingent facts.
Outlines
π The Truth of Islam and the Existence of God
In this part, the speaker outlines the goal of the presentation series: to demonstrate the truth of Islam by evaluating evidence supporting and opposing its claims. The central assertion is that Islam is true, defined as the belief that God created the universe for a purpose and sent messengers to guide humanity toward eternal happiness. To explore this claim, the speaker breaks it down into smaller claims, focusing first on the existence of God, which he argues is necessary due to the contingent nature of the universe. The speaker summarizes the argument for God's existence, highlighting that everything in the universe is contingent and requires a necessary beingβGodβto explain its existence. He anticipates materialist objections, particularly the assertion that the claim of God's existence is arbitrary, and prepares to address them in the following sections.
π Addressing Materialist Objections to God's Existence
This section addresses materialist objections to the claim that God exists, specifically the assertion that claiming 'God made everything the way it is' is an arbitrary solution. The speaker explains that materialists often suggest that if something must exist to explain contingent facts, one could just as easily stop the explanatory chain at the universe or the Big Bang rather than at God. However, the speaker argues that this line of reasoning is flawed; contingent facts cannot explain other contingent facts without eventually leading to a necessary being. He asserts that the existence of God is not arbitrary but a reasoned conclusion stemming from the contingency of the universe, which necessitates an independent, non-material entityβGod. The speaker further clarifies that the materialist viewpoint stems from a misunderstanding of the nature of existence and the role of necessary beings.
π The Fallacy of Materialism and Its Implications
In this part, the speaker explores the fallacy of materialism, which posits that only material objects exist based on our sensory observations. This perspective leads to misconceptions about God, as people mistakenly consider Him a material object that requires a cause. The speaker emphasizes that God's status as a necessary being fundamentally distinguishes Him from contingent material objects. He argues that materialism ignores evidence of non-material existence, particularly the necessity of a non-contingent being to explain the contingent universe. The conclusion drawn is that God is not subject to the same limitations as material objects, and thus the question 'Who made God?' is based on a flawed premise. This highlights the misunderstanding that leads to the objection regarding God's existence.
π Refuting the Question of God's Causation
The speaker continues to dismantle the objection regarding the necessity of God's existence, specifically the question 'Who made God?'. He categorizes this question as a loaded question, which presupposes that God needs to be caused or made. The speaker argues that this is an invalid question because it contradicts the nature of God as a necessary being who does not require a cause. By establishing that God is fundamentally different from contingent objects, he concludes that the existence of God is a logical necessity derived from the contingent nature of the universe. The speaker reiterates that the argument for God's existence remains robust despite materialist objections, emphasizing that God is the ultimate explanation for the existence of everything contingent.
Mindmap
Keywords
π‘Islam
π‘God
π‘Contingency
π‘Necessary Being
π‘Materialism
π‘Arbitrary Solution
π‘Evidence
π‘Existential Claims
π‘Logical Fallacy
π‘Supernatural
Highlights
The primary goal of the presentation series is to demonstrate the truth of Islam by evaluating supporting and opposing evidence.
Islam is defined as the belief that God created the universe for a purpose and sent messengers to guide humanity towards eternal happiness.
The existence of God is presented as a crucial subclaim in the overarching argument for the truth of Islam.
The argument for God's existence hinges on the contingent nature of the universe, suggesting it requires a necessary being.
The concept of a 'necessary being' is elaborated upon, highlighting its importance in distinguishing God from contingent entities.
The argument is structured simply: the universe exists, and since it could not exist, God must be the creator.
Materialists challenge the argument by labeling it an 'arbitrary solution' and questioning the necessity of God as the final explanation.
The objection 'who made God?' is explored as a common counterargument that needs careful analysis.
The presentation clarifies that contingent facts cannot explain other contingent facts, leading to the necessity of a non-contingent being.
The materialist objection misunderstands the argument by equating God with contingent entities like the universe or the Big Bang.
God is posited as a necessary fact that does not require an explanation, unlike contingent facts that need external justification.
The fallacy of materialism is identified as a reasoning error that assumes all existence is material, limiting the understanding of non-material entities.
The characteristics of the physical universe are contingent, necessitating a non-contingent, independent source for existence.
The loaded question 'who made God?' is discussed as a presupposition that incorrectly assumes God is contingent.
The presentation reaffirms that the existence of God is a reasoned conclusion and counters the fallacious objections raised by materialists.
The conclusion asserts that the objection does not weaken the argument for God's existence, maintaining its validity.
Transcripts
my goal in this series of presentations
is to show why islam is true as i
explained in the first presentation my
approach will be to take the statement
islam is true as a claim
and then to evaluate the evidence that
supports this claim as well as the
evidence that may
uh may argue against this claim
in order to make this evaluation i need
to clearly define what i mean by the
word islam
and i explained in the first
presentation that what i mean when i say
islam is true is that it is true that
god created the universe put us in it
for a great purpose and sent us
messengers to tell us our purpose so
that we might gain eternal happiness in
our life after death
in order to evaluate this large claim i
need to break it up into a series of
smaller claims and the most important
subclaim of this large claim is the
claim that god exists in the second
presentation i showed you
why it is that god must exist and we saw
that the contingent universe requires a
necessary being in order for it to exist
in the next presentation i explained
what i mean by necessary being what the
quran means by necessary being what the
prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam means
meant by necessary being and i showed
that the concept of nest of necessary
existence is the most important concept
um that relates to the concept of god
and it is what distinguishes god from
everything else that exists
now i promised that i would examine the
evidence for the claim islam is true and
also the evidence against the against
that claim
so in this presentation i'm going to
respond to a materialist objection to
the claim god exists
in particular a materialist objection to
the argument that i presented in the
second presentation for the existence of
god
before i present that objection let's
recap the argument in a very in very
simple terms the argument goes like this
the universe exists but it could have
not existed therefore god made it exist
it's night but it could have been day
it's day but it could have been night
therefore god made it night and god made
it today
ships sail but they could have sank
therefore god makes them sail
it is rainy but it could have been sunny
therefore god is making it rain
everything in the universe could have
been other than the way that it is
therefore god made everything the way
that it is it's a very simple and in
fact intuitive presentation uh of the
argument for the existence of god the
objection that materialists
raise against this
argument is that
this is an arbitrary solution they say
that therefore god made everything the
way that it is is an arbitrary solution
and then they ask they say then who made
god before we respond
to this objection which you will hear
very frequently
in
in contemporary debates around the
existence or
around the existence of god
we need to understand what exactly it
means because this objection is often
made and it's not and its meaning is not
carefully analyzed and until we
carefully analyze its meaning
we cannot respond to it and explain why
it is an invalid objection this
objection consists of two parts the
first part is the statement that that is
an arbitrary solution
the second part is the question who made
god
let's start with the first part of this
objection
that is an arbitrary solution what
exactly does this mean
let's do a quick recap of the argument
that i presented in the second
presentation in that presentation i
explained that everything in the
universe is contingent
the fact that ships sail is contingent
the fact that rain falls is contingent
the fact that wind blows is contingent
everything in the universe is contingent
meaning that it could have been other
than the way that it is since it's
contingent it needs something else to
make it true what a scientist does is he
explains one contingent fact in terms of
another contingent fact but that doesn't
solve the problem because the second
contingent fact needs a third contingent
fact to explain it which will then need
another contingent fact to explain it
we saw that i explained that this series
of contingent explanation cannot
continue forever because no contingent
fact really explains anything else
because it remains something that needs
to be explained by something else and
the only way to
explain the existence of the contingent
things in the universe is to end the
chain at a necessary fact which i
explained in
the third presentation is what religious
believers mean
when they refer to the entity called god
so the materialist who is objecting to
this argument is saying that
that
necessary fact is an arbitrary solution
to the problem of contingency
what does he mean by arbitrary what he
means by arbitrary is that there is no
reason why ending the chain at a
necessary fact in other words god
is any better than ending it at a
contingent fact
that is why the materialist will follow
his objection with statements like this
he will say that why do you want to end
it at god why don't you just end the
contingent contingent chain at the
universe or better still end it at the
big bank if you want to end it at
something why choose god rather than the
universe or the big bang in fact ending
it at the universe or the big bang is
better than ending it at god because god
is something that is magical and
unscientific the existence of god can
never be demonstrated through scientific
through the scientific method and so one
should
choose something in the universe and
that would be a better explanation
of the contingent causation if you have
to stop somewhere stop at something that
you can easily touch
smell
grasp with your mind something that has
evidence for ex for its existence rather
than something that has no evidence for
its existence that's how the objection
goes now if you've carefully followed
the argument for god's existence for the
existence of a necessary being
and if you've carefully followed
my explanation of the objection that
that is an arbitrary solution you will
quickly see that this objection
completely misses the point it misses
the point because the whole point of the
argument is that contingent facts cannot
be made true by some other contingent
fact
to say that all of the contingent facts
are made true by the universe or the big
bang
is not
a solution because the universe and the
big bang are both contingent facts and
they need something else to make them
true
when we say that god is the one who made
all of the contingent facts in the
universe true
god does not need to be made true by
anything else that's why he is a
necessary fact
the existence of god is not a fairy tale
that doesn't have any evidence behind it
the existence of god is a reasoned
conclusion
god must exist if you think god must
exist
if you skipped ahead to this
presentation without watching the second
presentation in which i explained the
argument for god's existence more
thoroughly go back right now and listen
to that presentation before continuing
ahead with this presentation
if you did listen to that presentation
then some of you will have grasped why
the objection is an invalid fallacious
objection
some of you however will still not have
grasped this because there is an
underlying problem that exists in the
minds of most of us today that
underlying problem is what i call the
fallacy of materialism the fallacy of
materialism reasons like this
it reasons that
everything that i observe is material
the sun is a material object the moon is
a material object the table in front of
me is a material object
rain
stars wind everything that i touch and
observe is a material object therefore
everything that exists must also be a
material object
it's because of this fallacy that the
objection that we are studying arises
because of this fallacy when we observe
one contingent fact and then we go to
another contingent fact and another
contingent fact reaching the conclusion
that all of these contingent facts must
have been made true by a necessary fact
because of this underlying fallacy in
many of our minds
we
consider the necessary fact god in other
words to be a material object because we
think that everything that exists is a
material object the only difference
between god and the other material
objects in our minds when we have this
fallacy embedded within us is that god
is somehow more powerful than all of the
other material objects
and since god is a material object
albeit more powerful just like all other
material objects this is what leads us
to ask the question
what made god
it is because of this fallacy that the
objection that we are studying arises
since somebody with this fallacy thinks
that everything is material
there appears to be no difference
between ending the chain at god or
ending the chain at some other material
object
but what the argument shows is that the
fallacy of materialism is a hasty
generalization
it's a hasty generalization because it's
a generalization that is not only based
on insufficient evidence
it's actually
based on ignoring evidence to the
contrary we have evidence the argument
is evidence that god is not a material
object
based on evidence we therefore know the
existence of at least one non-material
object and that is the necessary fact
for whose existence we have we have this
argument god is not a material object
and the fact that he is super powerful
is not what makes him god what makes him
god is that he is a necessary fact that
he is not contingent that he is not
material
matter is contingent
god cannot be material this argument
argues from the contingency of the
physical universe the physical universe
is the total of all material objects and
when we look at the
characteristics of the material objects
in the physical universe everything in
the physical universe all of these
characteristics location size motion
matter or energy change time all of
these are contingent characteristics
they need to be made true by something
other than themselves
so the physical universe because it is
composed of material objects is
contingent to say that it's contingent
is the same thing as to say that it's
needy which is the same thing
as to say that it is dependent
and the physical universe the universe
therefore needs a necessary fact and the
necessary fact must be non-contingent
and it can only be non-contingent if it
is non-material
the physical universe from its
contingency from its neediness from its
dependence
points to the existence of a necessary
fact that is necessary which is the same
as to say that it is self-sufficient
which is the same as to say that it is
independent and it's being necessary
self-sufficient and independent can only
be the case if it does not possess any
of the characteristics of material
objects because all of those
characteristics are contingent
and that non-material non-contingent
being
is what we mean when we say god
and so when we say that god is the
solution to the problem of contingency
it is not an arbitrary solution it is
not an arbitrary solution at all
god is non-contingent non-material
completely different than all of the
other material things that we observe
and touch
that is why the question what made god
is an invalid question
we'll return to this question in just a
little bit because this was the second
part of the objection with which we
began
this
presentation what's important at this
point
is to understand
that the necessary fact the
non-contingent non-material fact the
fact of god
is not an arbitrary solution it is a
reasoned conclusion
and the fallacy of materialism that
might lead some of us to imagine that it
is an arbitrary solution is a baseless
hasty generalization that flies in the
face of evidence to the contrary
let's return to where we began this
presentation we began with the
conclusion from the contingency of the
universe that god made everything the
way that it is
the objection that this is an arbitrary
solution then who made god we saw was
composed of two parts
and we've just seen that the first part
is a baseless objection that does not
advance any evidence against the claim
that god exists
now that we understand why the first
part of the objection is
baseless and fallacious we can move on
to see that the second part of the
objection is also fallacious
the second part of the objection commits
a logical fallacy that logicians call
the fallacy of multiple questions or in
in simpler terms it's often called a
loaded question a loaded question is
like the question have you stopped
beating your wife this question
presupposes another question namely were
you beating your wife
if the answer to this
previous question were you beating your
wife is yes
then you can validly ask have you
stopped beating your wife
but if
the question that is presupposed were
you beating your wife the answer to that
question is no
then the question have you stopped
beating your wife is an invalid question
it cannot be posed because it's based on
an unjustified assumption if someone
insists anyway and asks have you stopped
beating your wife knowing that you have
never beaten your wife
then
the proper way to answer this question
is to return it to the question that it
hinges on namely were you beating your
wife and to say that i have never beaten
my wife
i have never beaten my wife and then to
say that therefore your question is an
invalid question it's based on an
unjustified assumption
similarly the question who made god is a
loaded question it presupposes another
question namely does god need to be made
if god needs to be made then one can
validly ask who made god but if god does
not need to be made then the question
who made god is an invalid question if
someone insists on asking anyway who
made god knowing that god does not need
to be made remember that that's the
whole argument that we
that the presentation in lesson two was
dedicated to and that i've explained
several times in this lesson the whole
point of that argument is that god does
not need to be made god is a necessary
fact so the question who made god is an
invalid question if someone asks it the
proper way to answer it is to return it
to the question that it presupposes and
to answer that question by denying
emphatically that god does not need to
be made and your question who made god
is therefore an invalid question it's a
loaded question that is based on an
unjustified assumption
so the second part of the objection is
also salacious
let's return once again to the beginning
of our presentation in which we saw that
everything in the universe is contingent
because it could have been otherwise
this is proof that god is the one who
made everything the way that it is
because god is a necessary being who
does not need to be made the way that he
is by anyone else
the objection that
this is an arbitrary solution
or the question that who made god
this objection is a fallacious objection
it's a baseless objection it is not
based on any evidence and the argument
for the existence of god still stands
just as strong as it stood before this
objection was made
mohammed
[Music]
allah
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