What are the requirements for AUDIT EVIDENCE? Explore ASA/ISA500

AmandaLovesToAudit
11 Oct 201816:45

Summary

TLDRIn this video, Dr. Amanda provides an overview of auditing standard ASA 500, which focuses on audit evidence. She explains the importance of collecting sufficient and appropriate evidence during an audit to form a reasonable opinion. The video covers methods for gathering evidence, such as inspection, observation, recalculation, and inquiry, while emphasizing the need for professional judgment. Dr. Amanda also introduces advanced techniques like mental models, vouching, and tracing to ensure the completeness and reliability of evidence. She concludes with practical tips on designing effective audit procedures.

Takeaways

  • 📄 AS 500 focuses on audit evidence and guides auditors on collecting evidence during the audit of financial reports.
  • 🎯 The objective is to design procedures to gather sufficient and appropriate audit evidence.
  • 🔢 'Sufficiency' refers to the quantity of evidence needed, while 'appropriateness' refers to the quality and relevance of the evidence.
  • 🧠 Auditors can collect evidence through setting a number of items, using checklists, or applying a mental model to assess if the evidence makes sense based on their understanding of the client.
  • 📊 Risk of material misstatements affects how much evidence is considered sufficient.
  • 🔍 Evidence must be relevant and reliable, and auditors must evaluate whether information used from the client is accurate and complete.
  • 👨‍🔬 If using experts, auditors must ensure the experts' work is reliable and unbiased.
  • ⚠️ Inconsistent evidence must be resolved by modifying audit procedures and ensuring conclusions align with available data.
  • 🛠️ Common audit procedures include inspection, observation, confirmation, recalculation, re-performance, analytical procedures, and inquiry.
  • 🔄 Auditors should use correct terminology, be specific, and customize procedures to fit the client’s systems and audit goals.

Q & A

  • What is the main focus of the 500 series of auditing standards?

    -The main focus of the 500 series of auditing standards is audit evidence, which encompasses all aspects related to collecting and evaluating evidence during an audit.

  • What does ASI 500 mean in the context of auditing standards?

    -ASI 500 refers to the overarching standard that guides auditors on what to consider overall when it comes to collecting audit evidence.

  • Why is it important for auditors to have sufficient and appropriate evidence?

    -Having sufficient and appropriate evidence is crucial for auditors to draw reasonable conclusions and form an opinion on the financial statements, as it ensures the reliability and validity of their audit findings.

  • What does 'sufficiency' of evidence refer to in auditing?

    -Sufficiency of evidence refers to the measure of the quantity of evidence needed to draw a conclusion, which can depend on the risks of material misstatements within the client's financial statements.

  • What does 'appropriateness' of evidence mean in the context of auditing?

    -Appropriateness of evidence means that the evidence is of the right quality, relevant, reliable, and is obtained using the right mix of procedures to gather the audit evidence.

  • How can auditors determine if they have collected sufficient and appropriate evidence?

    -Auditors can determine if they have sufficient and appropriate evidence by using professional judgment, which is informed by experience, practice, and understanding of the client's business and financials.

  • What are some methods auditors use to collect evidence?

    -Auditors use methods such as inspection of documents and tangible assets, observation, external confirmation, recalculation, reperformance, analytical procedures, and inquiry to collect evidence.

  • What is the significance of the mental model approach in determining the sufficiency of evidence?

    -The mental model approach is significant because it allows auditors to use their understanding of the client to assess whether they have enough evidence, rather than relying on a set number or checklist, leading to a more contextually appropriate assessment.

  • Why is it important for auditors to consider the risks of material misstatements when collecting evidence?

    -Considering the risks of material misstatements helps auditors to determine the extent of evidence needed, as higher risks may require more evidence to mitigate the possibility of incorrect conclusions in the audit opinion.

  • What should auditors do if they encounter inconsistent evidence during an audit?

    -If auditors encounter inconsistent evidence, they should consider changing their audit procedures to resolve the inconsistency and investigate the cause, as it may indicate issues such as fraud or poor internal controls.

  • How do the four basic rules for audit procedures mentioned in the script contribute to a more effective audit?

    -The four basic rules for audit procedures—using correct audit terms, client names for things, being specific, and ensuring the procedure is fit for purpose—contribute to a more effective audit by ensuring clarity, accuracy, and relevance in the audit process.

Outlines

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📚 Introduction to Audit Evidence

Dr. Amanda introduces the 500 series of auditing standards, focusing on AS 500, which is about audit evidence. She discusses the standard's objective, definitions, and requirements. The video aims to help students understand how to design audit programs by considering audit procedures and the explanatory material provided in the standard. Dr. Amanda also highlights the importance of sufficient and appropriate evidence in forming an auditor's opinion and mentions her PhD research on how auditors determine the sufficiency of evidence.

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🔍 Sufficiency and Appropriateness of Evidence

This section delves into the concepts of sufficiency and appropriateness of audit evidence. Dr. Amanda explains that sufficiency refers to the quantity of evidence needed, which can vary based on the risks of material misstatements. Appropriateness, on the other hand, pertains to the quality of evidence, including its relevance, reliability, and the mix of procedures used to gather it. She emphasizes the role of professional judgment in determining the amount and type of evidence, which comes from experience and practice.

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🔎 Addressing Inconsistencies in Evidence

Dr. Amanda addresses how to handle inconsistencies in audit evidence. If evidence from different sources conflicts or raises doubts about reliability, auditors must consider changing their audit procedures to resolve the inconsistency. She stresses the importance of using a mental model approach to evaluate the sense and fit of evidence with the company's risk profile and inherent risks. The video also briefly mentions various audit methods for collecting evidence, such as inspection, observation, and inquiry.

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📝 Audit Procedures and Best Practices

In the final paragraph, Dr. Amanda discusses audit methods in more detail, including inspection of documents and tangible assets, observation, confirmation, recalculation, reperformance, analytical procedures, and inquiry. She adds vouching and tracing to the list, explaining their purposes in testing for existence and completeness. The video concludes with four basic rules for audit procedures: using correct audit terms, client-specific names, being specific, and ensuring the procedure fits its purpose. Dr. Amanda invites viewers to like, comment, and subscribe for more content on auditing standards.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Audit Evidence

Audit evidence refers to the information collected by auditors to form a basis for their audit opinion. In the video, it is emphasized that collecting sufficient and appropriate audit evidence is critical for auditors to draw reasonable conclusions. Examples of audit evidence can include documents, records, or statements that substantiate financial claims.

💡Sufficiency

Sufficiency in audit evidence relates to the quantity of evidence needed to draw conclusions. The video explains that auditors must determine how much evidence is enough, often through methods like setting numerical targets or using mental models to ensure there are no inconsistencies in the collected data.

💡Appropriateness

Appropriateness refers to the quality of audit evidence. The video discusses how the evidence must be relevant and reliable for the audit purpose. An example is making sure the evidence aligns with the risk profile of the client and the specific financial areas being audited.

💡Audit Procedures

Audit procedures are the methods used to gather audit evidence. The video introduces different types of procedures, such as inspection, observation, external confirmation, recalculation, and analytical procedures. These methods are vital for ensuring that the evidence collected is both sufficient and appropriate.

💡Professional Judgement

Professional judgement is the auditor's ability to make decisions based on experience and knowledge. In the video, it is highlighted that auditors must rely on their professional judgement to determine the sufficiency and appropriateness of evidence, especially when faced with complex or inconsistent information.

💡Internal Controls

Internal controls refer to the processes and systems within a company that ensure the accuracy and reliability of financial reporting. The video emphasizes that auditors need to understand these controls to evaluate the reliability of the information they receive from clients, particularly when controls are weak.

💡Inconsistencies

Inconsistencies in audit evidence occur when two or more pieces of information do not align. The video stresses the importance of resolving such discrepancies, as they may indicate errors, fraud, or gaps in internal controls. Auditors must adjust their procedures to address these inconsistencies.

💡Relevance

Relevance refers to whether the evidence collected is applicable to the audit question at hand. The video explains that auditors must ensure that the evidence they gather is relevant to the financial areas they are auditing, such as ensuring ownership of assets or verifying the occurrence of transactions.

💡Mental Model

A mental model in auditing is an auditor's internal framework for understanding a client’s business and assessing whether the collected evidence makes sense. The video describes how experienced auditors use mental models to decide if they have gathered sufficient and appropriate evidence, particularly by questioning the logic of the evidence.

💡Vouching and Tracing

Vouching and tracing are two specific audit procedures. Vouching involves checking the existence or occurrence of transactions by working backward from the end of the transaction. Tracing, on the other hand, ensures completeness by following a transaction from its initiation to its conclusion. Both are critical in verifying the accuracy of financial records.

Highlights

Introduction to the 500 series of auditing standards focusing on audit evidence.

Explanation of AS 500 as an overarching standard for collecting audit evidence.

The scope of AS 500 and its application to all evidence obtained during an audit.

Definition of audit evidence and the auditor's responsibilities in using it.

Importance of collecting sufficient and appropriate evidence for an auditor's opinion.

Discussion on the sufficiency of evidence and how auditors determine it.

Different methods auditors use to collect evidence, including setting a number or using a checklist.

Mental model approach to determining sufficient evidence based on the auditor's understanding of the client.

The significance of professional judgment in determining the quantity and quality of evidence.

Definition of appropriate evidence in terms of relevance, reliability, and the mix of procedures used.

Requirement for auditors to design and perform audit procedures for obtaining sufficient and appropriate evidence.

Consideration of the relevance and reliability of information when designing audit procedures.

The need to evaluate the work of experts used by management for their reliability.

How to evaluate the reliability of information produced by the entity being audited.

Selection of evidence items that are effective in meeting the purpose of the audit procedure.

Handling of inconsistent or unreliable audit evidence and the need to change audit procedures if necessary.

The role of the mental model approach in making sense of evidence and identifying inconsistencies.

Discussion of audit methods for collecting evidence as outlined in AS 500.

Additional audit procedures of vouching and tracing for testing existence and completeness.

Four basic rules for designing audit procedures.

Link to other videos for more detailed examples of implementing audit procedures.

Transcripts

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hi dr. Amanda here and welcome to Amanda

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loves to audit and our series on audit

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evidence now we start into the 500

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series of auditing standards and

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everything in the 500s is about audit

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evidence and it starts with this

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overarching standard a si 500 about what

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we should think about overall when it

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comes to collecting audit evidence when

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we look at our table of contents nothing

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unusual here we're going to look at the

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objective of the standard the

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definitions and the requirements and as

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usual I'm not going to go through too

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much of the explication or explanatory

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material at the end however I am going

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to talk a little bit about audit

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procedures and what is discussed in the

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explanatory material and how I think

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students can use that to design

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appropriate audit programs as always we

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have our conformity standard so is a 500

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and a sa 500 are internationally aligned

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so if you're studying the ISAs and this

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video will be just as applicable to you

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as to the Australian students looking at

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the ASA's when we dig into the standard

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we start with the scope and the scope is

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always what is this standard about so

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the scope actually says here it's what

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exactly is audit evidence so constitutes

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really means what exactly is ordered

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evidence in the audit of our financial

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report and it talks about what our

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responsibilities are because we have to

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use our audit evidence we have to design

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and perform audit procedures to be able

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to get evidence so that we can draw our

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reasonable conclusions in our auditors

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opinion remember I can't make an opinion

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without some form of evidence or making

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an opinion without any evidence would

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certainly be a contravention of the

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auditing standards so a si 500 is quite

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broad and it applies to all evidence

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obtained

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during the audit we have some very

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specific standards for specific

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circumstances so 305 is about

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understanding the client at the planning

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stage there was going to be a standard

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on solicitors confirmations on

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confirmations on analytical procedures

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but 500 is overarching when we look at

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the objective and I'll just zoom this in

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a tiny bit more I need to design my

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procedures in such a way so that I get

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sufficient and appropriate evidence and

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the question here becomes well what does

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it mean for evidence to be sufficient

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and appropriate how much is sufficient

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and what is appropriate so if we go down

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into our definitions will say that

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sufficiency means the measure of the

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quantity of evidence how much is really

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the key let me add that in here the key

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here is how much evidence do I need to

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collect and this is actually the area of

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my PhD where we looked at there were

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different ways that auditors decided

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whether they had enough evidence I'll

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just move my whiteboard over a bit we'll

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talk a little bit about ways in which

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auditors can collect evidence so from my

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PhD we found that one of the ways that

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auditors used to collect evidence is

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that they set a number they set a number

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of items that they want to collect and

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once they hit that number then they say

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I have sufficient and appropriate

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evidence another option is that they use

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a checklist they have a very specific

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list of things that they might need to

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collect once they've collected

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everything on that checklist and

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remember that checklist may be

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incomplete they say that they've got

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sufficient and appropriate evidence the

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third option and the option that from my

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PhD we found was more appropriate to

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help auditors make sure they had

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sufficient evidence was a mental model

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approach where they used their

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understanding of the client to say do we

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have enough and we ask ourselves well

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does this make sense

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does the evidence make sense with what I

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know about the company and if we have

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something that doesn't make sense so if

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we have inconsistencies or gaps we need

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to search more right and when we

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actually went and we talked to a whole

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lot of different auditors and we looked

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at experts people who are better able to

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implement this approach the mental model

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about making sense and searching for

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inconsistencies and we're not tied to a

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specific number of items 20 or 50 came

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up with much more appropriate sufficient

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and appropriate levels of audit evidence

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now the mental models going to be

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different for everyone so that's really

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quite a tough approach but it's one that

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we see most audit firms implementing in

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their training this real focus on

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understanding the client understanding

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the financials understanding accounting

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so that you know whether you have

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sufficient and appropriate evidence all

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right after that little interlude let's

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go back here so sufficiency is the

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question about how much evidence and

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really that's also the question like how

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long is a piece of string so how much

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will depend on potentially the risks of

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material misstatements that you're

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expecting within the client now the

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standard says sufficient and appropriate

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so what is going to be appropriate

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evidence appropriate evidence means it's

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the right quality it's relevant it's

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reliable it's used using the right mix

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of procedures to gather that audit

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evidence

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so really appropriate comes down to

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designing the right audit procedures and

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that takes experience is one of the

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hardest things for students to get a

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handle on is designing the right audit

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procedures and there's no absolutely

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hundred percent foolproof answer as to

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how much is sufficient and how much is

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appropriate the key for auditors is that

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they have to use

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their professional judgement all right

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and that only comes from experience and

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practice and understanding the

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profession so that's the objective and

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says oh we have to go out and make sure

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we can collect sufficient and

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appropriate evidence and that's

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reinforced here in the requirement so

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the remember the requirements is where

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we start the actual bits of what we have

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to do and the auditor shall design and

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perform audit procedures that are

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appropriate for the circumstances of

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obtaining sufficient and appropriate

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evidence so we have to consider the

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relevance and reliability of information

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where does it come from is it the right

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information for the right question so

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the relevance one I always like to think

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of as use the evidence fit for its

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purpose if you want to check whether a

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company owns a piece of land will that

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piece of evidence actually tell you and

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that comes down to the design of the

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right procedure is that information

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reliable can I rely on it so that I can

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give my opinion now if we do decide to

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use experts we have to consider well is

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that expert appropriate can they make

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the right decision I need to evaluate

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the work if management of use an expert

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I might need to even engage an expert of

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my own and we have a SAS in the 600's

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that tell us about how we need to select

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our experts because we might not want to

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trust the expert of clients management

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because there is the possibility of some

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bias there's definitely the possibility

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that management's expert is telling

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management exactly what they want to

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hear and what they're paying them for if

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we go on to the next part

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when using information produced by the

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entity I shall evaluate whether the

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information is sufficiently reliable

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including the accuracy and the

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completeness of that information and

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whether it's sufficiently precise and

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detailed now how do we do that we're

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going to do that by making sure that we

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understand the systems of internal

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control

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at our clients because the systems of

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internal control are the systems that

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actually collect and capture a lot of

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information used and collected by the

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clients so if we have a situation where

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control risk is high systems are fairly

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poor I try and minimize information that

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I would use just rameen side the company

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I might even want to think about trying

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to correlate that information or confirm

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that information with someone else

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now how do we go about selecting

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evidence well I actually have a standard

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about when designing tests of controls

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and tests of details I should select

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items that are effective in meeting the

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purpose of that audit procedure so that

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really means that when I'm sampling and

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we're going to look at the sampling

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standard a little bit later on I'm

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selecting a sample in an appropriate

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manner and we're going to look at that

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in a SI 530 now what happens if I have

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information that is inconsistent or

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doubts the reliability of audit evidence

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and inconsistency is a key one if you

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find information where you've got two

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pieces of information from within the

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client that tell a different story you

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cannot simply ignore that it exists so

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it says if evidence from one source is a

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inconsistent with evidence we get from

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somewhere else or we think that there's

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doubts over a liability potentially

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because of poor internal controls

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potentially because of some other you

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might have a fraud risk that might mean

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that evidence might be less reliable

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then what I need to get to is consider

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whether I need to change my audit

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procedures to resolve the inconsistency

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and find out the heart of the matter

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because this bit here consider the

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effect and resolve the matter if there's

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inconsistencies why there

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inconsistencies is that because of fraud

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is it because people are trying to hide

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something and that's why we're seeing

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inconsistencies in the evidence when I'm

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talking to my students my key is always

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when you're looking at evidence you ask

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yourself

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does this make sense alright does this

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make sense this is the mental model

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approach and it does this match with

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everything we know about the company how

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does this fit with their risk profile

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and what we found out about them in the

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inherent risks so we have to go collect

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evidence to make sure that we can give

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our audit opinion now I wanted to talk

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briefly about the audit methods the

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methods that are included in a si 500

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about how to collect evidence and these

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are actually from a si 500 but they're

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actually in the explanatory paragraphs a

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7 to a 25 at the back and a 7 and a 23

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to a 25 say we have inspection

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observation external confirmation

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recalculation read performance

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analytical procedures and inquiry and I

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have absolutely no qualms with either of

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these but I always like to give these a

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little bit more depth and detail so when

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I talk to my students I talked about

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inspection in two ways I talked about

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inspection of documents all right and

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then I also talked about inspection of

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tangible assets now you might be

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wondering why I don't just say assets

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because remember we have intangible

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assets so when I talk about inspection I

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break this down further into inspection

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of documents and inspection of tangible

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assets observation is just watching

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people confirmation I'll talk about that

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in a separate standard recalculation is

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simply redoing the maths now Reaper

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formance is an interesting standard

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because reef performance is really only

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only applies to internal controls

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testing because your Reaper forming a

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procedure related to an internal control

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so we tend not to use Reaper formants

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too much unless it's with internal

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controls analytical procedures ratios

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anything we know a lot about that

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inquiry is talking to people but I want

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to add two extra procedures to our list

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those extra procedures are these two

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here vouching and tracing and these are

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really important because vouching is at

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the end of the transaction so you go

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from the end of the transaction to the

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start so you work backwards alright and

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the thing with vouching is that it's a

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great test for existence and occurrence

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then we also have tracing and tracing is

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when you go from the start of the

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transaction to the end and tracing is a

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really great procedure to help us with

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completeness so they have different

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purposes and the reason I include these

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is because they I guess a part of

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inspection but it's a very specific type

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of inspection and so when we voucher

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when we trace we're giving very clear

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instructions on how to do the audit now

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I've talked about in other videos about

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my full rules for audit procedures so I

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thought I'd add these to the very end

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and then I'll link you to some other

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videos where I go about it in more

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detail we have four really simple

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procedures or four really simple rules I

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guess they are rule number one is always

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use the correct audit term this is

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because we're part of a profession right

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we don't say I'll just test stuff which

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I came in a vouch I'm gonna trace I'm

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gonna do an analytical procedure so that

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proves to your Assessor or your marker

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or the person that you're working for

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you know the profession my second point

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is always use the client names for

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things

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client names and terms and this is

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because clients use different names for

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different things

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even in the same industries one company

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might call this a packing slip others

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might call it a bill of lading or a

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shipping document if you don't give

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clients the exact name of what you're

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asking for they won't give it to

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so we don't have that I don't have that

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document so always use the client names

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that's customizing your audit number

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three is be specific all right your

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procedure should be detailed enough for

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someone else to follow this is really

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really critical and then number four the

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procedure needs to be fit for purpose so

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if you are testing an internal control

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you need to make sure the procedure is

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about testing the internal control if

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you're testing the occurrence of sales

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you need to be using vouching and not

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tracing so these are my four basic rules

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a link to some other videos where you

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can find out more and see examples have

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our way of how I implement this so

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thanks for listening I'm glad to be back

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