What is Hezbollah and how powerful is it?

Sky News Daily Podcasts
26 Sept 202419:59

Summary

TLDRSky News Daily host Neil Patterson discusses the escalating conflict between Israel and Hezbollah along the Israel-Lebanon border. The discussion explores Hezbollah's origins, its ties to Iran, and its military capabilities. The Israeli air bombardment aims to weaken Hezbollah, amid fears of a broader conflict involving global powers like the U.S. and U.K. The program also addresses Hezbollah's leadership under Hassan Nasrallah, and the possibility of full-scale war if Israel's strikes escalate. Diplomatic efforts to avoid a larger regional war are also examined.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ”ฅ The Middle East, specifically the border between Israel and Lebanon, is experiencing heightened tensions with Israeli aerial bombardments targeting Hezbollah.
  • ๐ŸŒŽ Israel's ongoing conflict with Hamas continues, with both groups backed by Iran, raising fears of an all-out war that could involve global powers like the U.S. and U.K.
  • ๐Ÿ›๏ธ At the United Nations, diplomatic efforts are underway to prevent an escalation, with a focus on Hezbollah's origins and its transformation from farmers to a formidable militant group.
  • ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ Israel's critics argue that its past invasions and occupations in Lebanon are responsible for the rise of Hezbollah, which claims to protect Lebanon from Israeli aggression.
  • ๐Ÿ”„ Hezbollah, meaning 'Party of God', is both a military and political entity in Lebanon, committed to the Iranian Islamic revolution and opposed to Israel's existence.
  • ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ Hezbollah's leader, Hassan Nasrallah, is a significant figure, having survived numerous assassination attempts and leading from a hidden bunker.
  • ๐Ÿ”„ The potential for all-out war hinges on Iran's strategic use of Hezbollah's missile arsenal as an 'insurance policy' against Israeli attacks on its nuclear facilities.
  • ๐Ÿ–๏ธ Israel's military campaign has been effective against Hezbollah, but the group remains well-equipped and could escalate the conflict if pushed.
  • ๐Ÿšจ The possibility of a ground incursion by Israel raises questions about the potential for a bloody and prolonged conflict, similar to the 2006 Lebanon War.
  • ๐Ÿข The conflict's impact on Israeli politics, particularly for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, is significant, with the military action seen as an attempt to restore deterrence and reputation.

Q & A

  • What is the main focus of the news report?

    -The main focus of the news report is the ongoing tensions and conflict between Israel and Lebanon, specifically the border dispute and the Israeli aerial bombardment targeting the militia group Hezbollah.

  • What is Hezbollah and what is its origin?

    -Hezbollah is a Lebanon-based Shiite militant organization with origins in the 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran. It emerged in the 1980s during Israel's occupation of Southern Lebanon and has grown into a formidable and effective militant organization supported by Iran.

  • How is Hezbollah different from Hamas?

    -Hezbollah is a Lebanese Shiite organization, while Hamas is a Palestinian Islamist organization based in Gaza and active in the West Bank. Both are backed by Iran but operate in different regions and have distinct objectives.

  • What role does Iran play in supporting Hezbollah?

    -Iran supports Hezbollah by providing weapons, funding, and training. Hezbollah serves as a proxy for Iran and is committed to the Iranian Islamic revolution, opposing the existence of Israel.

  • Who is Hassan Nasrallah and what is his significance?

    -Hassan Nasrallah is the leader of Hezbollah. He is a military commander, orator, and preacher. He has been leading the organization since 2006 and is known for his ability to rally support and maintain a strong military presence.

  • What are the diplomatic efforts being made to avoid an all-out war in the region?

    -Diplomatic efforts are underway at the United Nations, with involvement from the United States, the United Kingdom, and regional partners. These efforts aim to de-escalate the conflict and prevent a larger regional war.

  • What would a full-scale war between Israel and Hezbollah look like?

    -A full-scale war could involve extensive aerial bombardments, ground incursions by Israeli forces, and significant use of Hezbollah's missile arsenal. It would likely be bloody and difficult to resolve quickly due to Hezbollah's strength and integration with the local community.

  • How has Israel's campaign against Hamas in Gaza impacted its approach to Hezbollah?

    -Israel's ongoing campaign in Gaza has stretched its military resources, leading to a cautious approach towards Hezbollah to avoid a two-front war. However, there is a desire to restore deterrence and reputation in the region.

  • What is the significance of the Israeli operation against Hezbollah's fighters and commanders?

    -The operation aims to degrade Hezbollah's fighting capabilities by targeting its fighters and commanders, which could weaken its military operations and leadership on the ground.

  • How does the conflict between Israel and Hezbollah affect the Lebanese civilians?

    -The conflict results in a high civilian death toll in Lebanon, with Hezbollah being integrated with the community, making it difficult to separate military targets from civilian areas.

  • What is the potential impact of the conflict on the political situation in Israel?

    -The conflict could influence the political situation in Israel, particularly for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who faces criticism over his handling of the Gaza campaign and the need to demonstrate military strength and effectiveness.

Outlines

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๐ŸŒ Middle East Tensions: Israel-Lebanon Conflict

The script opens with a discussion on the longstanding tensions between Israel and Lebanon, focusing on the Israeli aerial bombardment targeting the Lebanese militia group, Hezbollah. The fear of an all-out war in the region is palpable, with the potential to involve global powers like the United States and the United Kingdom. The script mentions diplomatic efforts to prevent escalation and an upcoming discussion on what such a war might look like, featuring insights from the defense editor, Deborah Haynes, from Tel Aviv.

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๐Ÿ” Origins and Role of Hezbollah

This section delves into the origins of Hezbollah, tracing back to the 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran. It contrasts Hezbollah with Hamas, explaining that while Hamas is a Palestinian Islamist organization based in Gaza, Hezbollah is Lebanese and Shiite. The discussion highlights Hezbollah's transformation from farmers to a formidable militant organization supported by Iran. It also addresses the political role Hezbollah plays in Lebanon and its commitment to the Iranian Islamic revolution, as well as the leadership of Hassan Nasrallah, who has been in hiding since 2006 due to Israeli assassinations of his commanders.

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๐Ÿค Diplomatic Efforts and Iran's Influence

The paragraph discusses the diplomatic efforts underway to resolve the conflict, particularly the role of the United Nations and the involvement of regional partners. It explores the indirect ways in which pressure can be applied to Hezbollah and Iran, through countries that have diplomatic channels with Iran. There's mention of a potential ceasefire and the reactions from different parties, including Israel's desire to press their advantage and the Iranian president's calls for caution to avoid falling into 'traps' set by Israel.

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๐Ÿšจ Assessing Hezbollah's Military Strength and Israeli Strategy

This part of the script assesses the effectiveness of Israel's military operations against Hezbollah, discussing the impact on Hezbollah's fighting force and the potential for further escalation. It highlights the challenges of fighting an unconventional force like Hezbollah, which is well-equipped and trained by Iran, and has a significant arsenal of missiles and rockets. The discussion also touches on the potential consequences of a full-scale war, the difficulties of conducting military operations against an integrated force like Hezbollah, and the political implications for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กMiddle East

The Middle East refers to the region encompassing Western Asia and parts of North Africa. In the context of the video, it is the central focus as it discusses the tensions and conflicts between Israel and Lebanon. The region is historically complex, with a long-standing history of skirmishes and geopolitical interests, as highlighted by the discussion of Israeli aerial bombardment and the involvement of Hezbollah.

๐Ÿ’กIsrael

Israel is a country in the Middle East, and a central player in the discussed conflicts. The video mentions Israeli actions such as aerial bombardment aimed at Hezbollah, indicating its role in ongoing regional tensions. Israel's military operations are a key aspect of the narrative, illustrating the country's efforts to diminish the power of militias it perceives as threats.

๐Ÿ’กLebanon

Lebanon is a country in Western Asia, bordering Israel. The script discusses the border tensions between Lebanon and Israel, particularly focusing on the activities of Hezbollah, a Lebanese organization. Lebanon's role in the script is significant as it serves as the base for Hezbollah, which is a central point of conflict with Israel.

๐Ÿ’กHezbollah

Hezbollah is a Lebanon-based Shiite militant group with political influence. The script describes Hezbollah as a formidable and effective militant organization backed by Iran. The group's origins are traced back to the 1980s, and it has been involved in numerous conflicts and terrorist attacks, as mentioned in the video. Hezbollah's actions and potential retaliations are central to the discussions of a possible escalation in the region.

๐Ÿ’กHamas

Hamas is a Palestinian Sunni-Islamist fundamentalist group, and as mentioned in the script, it is distinct from Hezbollah despite both being Islamist organizations. Hamas is based in Gaza and is involved in conflicts with Israel, particularly noted for its role in the West Bank and its ongoing war with Israel, which is a part of the broader Middle East tensions.

๐Ÿ’กIran

Iran is a country in the Middle East and is discussed in the script as a key supporter of Hezbollah. Iran's backing of Hezbollah includes providing funding, weapons, and influence, which shapes the dynamics of the conflict. The script also mentions Iran's strategic interests and its potential role in escalating or de-escalating the conflict.

๐Ÿ’กDiplomatic efforts

Diplomatic efforts refer to the actions taken by nations and international organizations to resolve disputes peacefully. The script highlights ongoing diplomatic efforts to avoid an all-out war in the Middle East, involving players like the United States and the United Kingdom. These efforts are crucial in the context of the video as they represent attempts to prevent further escalation of violence.

๐Ÿ’กConflict escalation

Conflict escalation refers to an increase in the intensity or severity of a conflict. The video discusses the potential for the situation between Israel and Hezbollah to escalate, with concerns about the use of Hezbollah's missile arsenal. The script explores the possibility of a ground incursion and the challenges it would present, illustrating the delicate balance of the situation.

๐Ÿ’กCivilian casualties

Civilian casualties are non-combatant deaths that occur during conflicts. The script raises concerns about the potential for a high civilian death toll in Lebanon if the conflict escalates. This is a significant issue as it could influence Hezbollah's response and the broader geopolitical implications of the conflict.

๐Ÿ’กUN Security Council

The UN Security Council is a body responsible for maintaining international peace and security. The script mentions the UN Security Council in the context of discussions about the situation in the Middle East, indicating the global significance of the conflict and the role of international diplomacy in addressing it.

๐Ÿ’กBuffer zone

A buffer zone is an area established to keep opposing forces apart and reduce conflict. The script discusses Israel's aim to create a buffer zone along its northern border with Lebanon to push Hezbollah fighters back. This concept is integral to understanding the military strategy and objectives discussed in the video.

Highlights

Tensions and skirmishes between Israel and Lebanon have persisted for many years.

Israel has conducted three days of aerial bombardment targeting the militia group Hezbollah.

Hezbollah is backed by Iran and shares similarities with Hamas, another Islamist organization.

There is a fear of an all-out war in the region that could involve the United States or the United Kingdom.

Diplomatic efforts are underway to avoid conflict, with a focus on the United Nations' role.

Hezbollah originated from the 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran and has grown into a formidable militant organization.

Hezbollah's rise is linked to Israel's invasion and occupation of Lebanon, particularly from 1982 to 2000.

Hezbollah is both a military and political entity within Lebanon, committed to Iranian Islamic revolution principles.

Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, is a significant figure with military, oratory, and leadership skills.

The potential for a larger conflict hinges on Iran's strategic use of Hezbollah's missile arsenal.

Diplomatic efforts are being made indirectly through regional partners to pressure Hezbollah and Iran.

Israel's military actions are effective but face challenges due to Hezbollah's integration with the community.

Hezbollah possesses a large arsenal of missiles, which poses a significant threat to Israel.

The conflict's escalation could lead to a ground incursion by Israel, aiming to create a buffer zone.

A full-scale war between Israel and Hezbollah would be bloody and difficult, with high civilian casualties.

Israel's military actions are linked to internal political issues, including pressure on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

The potential for an all-out war is real, but current assumptions suggest Iran may avoid using Hezbollah's full firepower.

Transcripts

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I'm Neil Patterson Welcome To The Sky

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News Daily today we are focusing very

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much on the Middle East and very

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specifically the border between Israel

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and Lebanon now there have been

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long-standing tensions and skirmishes

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between the two for many many years

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recently though we have seen three days

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of Israeli aial bombardment aimed at

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diminishing the militia group hisbah

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meanwhile of course Israel's war on

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Hamas continues Hamas like Hezbollah

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backed by the Iranian State and the fear

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is pretty obvious allout war in the

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region and one which you could see

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dragging in players like the United

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States or even the United Kingdom

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therefore as you would expect huge

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diplomatic efforts are underway to avoid

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this a little later however we will be

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reflecting on what war might look like

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if it takes place with our defense

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editor Deborah Haynes she'll be speaking

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to us from Tel

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Aviv but let's start in New York at the

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United Nations meeting obvious ly

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discussing the situation in the Middle

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East our International Affairs editor

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Dominic WN joins us uh Dominic really

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good to see you so much mention of

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hisbah at the moment for for obvious

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reasons just explain exactly who they

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are because this is a a lebanon-based

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organization but it has its origins in

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the 1979 Islamic revolution in Iran it

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does you're right yeah I mean it's very

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confusing as always with the Middle East

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and you have the various different

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organizations and it's often confused

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with Hamas so Hamas is the pal inian

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islamist organization based in Gaza but

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also pretty active in the West Bank uh

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the occupied Palestinian territories and

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uh with whom Israel has been fighting

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hisbah is different hisbah is Lebanese

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and Shiite and to go back to its Origins

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really you have to go back to 1982 in

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1982 Israel and the PLO the Palestine

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Liberation Organization that most people

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will will remember was headed by yasa

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Arafat they were exchanging far rather

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similar to what's happening now over

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Israel's northern border the PLO was

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fighting with the Israelis and the

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Israelis then invaded Lebanon all the

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way up to Beirut and fought it out with

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the PLO who then went into Exile and

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fled to uh Tunisia but Israel did not

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withdraw completely from Lebanon in fact

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they stayed occupying Southern Lebanon

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until the year 2000 and in that time

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hisbah emerged and got stronger and

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stronger so up to that point the members

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of hisb were basically farmers in the

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poor south of Lebanon and they were

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transformed to this very what has become

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a formidable uh and very effective uh

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militant organization that is supported

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by Iran and uh supplied weapons by Iran

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and funded by Iran and uh in those years

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uh they have effectively become an

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organization that has carried out any

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number of terrorist attacks against the

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Americans in Beirut one Barracks bombing

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that you'll remember killed more than

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300 uh and they've been blamed for

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attacks around the world as well so

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Israel's critics say they're actually

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sort of responsible for the fact that

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hisbah was created because had they not

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invaded Lebanon had they not occupied it

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for so long hisbah would not have sprung

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up and and set itself up as what it

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claims to be which is a anti-israeli

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occupation originally and then

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anti-israeli now resistance organization

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and what his b say to the Lebanese is

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that they are there to protect Lebanon

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and the Lebanese from Israel and they've

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become a state within a state because

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they are so powerful and so well funded

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Ser serving as they do though as a proxy

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of the Iranian state does does hisbah

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have an ideology to speak of does it

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have a stated set of Ambitions beyond

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the advancement of Iranian strategic uh

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priorities yeah it's a good question

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hisb means party of of God and it is

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both a military organization and a

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terrorist organization it's been

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condemned and prescribed as such by

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America and Britain and other Western

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Nations but it is also a political party

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and it plays a political role uh in the

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politics of Lebanon which is very very

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fractured and uh very dysfunctional

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though it is very much committed to the

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Iranian Islamic revolution that uh

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happened in 1979 and the Iranians are

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committed to spreading their form of

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islamism around the region they are

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opposed to the existence of Israel and

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hisbah is effectively a kind of

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theological arm and sort of branch of

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that Revolution so they I guess they've

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got a kind of

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ideologically they have a sort of dual

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fun

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in terms of how they present themselves

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to the Lebanese but also how they act on

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behalf of their Iranian patrons and to

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an extent I mean and correct me if I'm

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wrong here it does appear to me that

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Hezbollah have have have quite an

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obvious leadership as well in sad Hassan

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nasala I mean how much do we know about

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him yeah so he's someone who was

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actually a military commander in the

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South and he has seen a lot of his

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commanders uh killed and assassinated uh

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in recent days and weeks so he's now

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he's having to replace the chief of

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staff he's having to replace the head of

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the Rockets Brigade because all these

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commanders have been uh killed but he

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does retain that military ability he's

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also an extremely effective orator and

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and leader and and preacher and since

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2006 he's led a Subterranean existence

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he was forced into hiding because

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Israelis would like to kill him so he

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lives in a bunker assumed to be

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somewhere underneath theia that's the

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hisb stronghold in Beirut some people

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think he may have left Beirut for his

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own safety and from that bunker over you

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know over the years he has appeared on

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huge video screens so I went to one

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speech he gave in a big stadium in

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southern Beirut where the faithful are

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gathered in their thousands rather like

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a rockar his sort of His Image appears

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on a very big screen and he delivers a

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lengthy speech which sort of begins

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quite calmly and then he builds up into

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a very fary artion that that gets his

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the masses fired up and I think the big

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question about nasala at the moment is

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is he going to continue doing Iran's

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bidding or or is he going to start using

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this massive arsenal of Firepower that

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the Iranians effectively paid for and

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supplied for hisbah to hide in the hills

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of Southern Lebanon but also in the Bear

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Valley and the conventional wisdom is

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that Iran wants that Arsenal to remain

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as insurance policy for the day when

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Israel attacks its nuclear facilities

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and it does not want to squander that

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even though it's been provoked to the

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extreme by Israel at the moment and I

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think the question now is if Israel

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kills enough Lebanese civilians will

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nasella feel he has to do his duty will

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he have to follow through on the promise

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to the Lebanese to protect them and

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start using much many more of these

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missiles because terrible though it is

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at the moment this exchange of fire as

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effectively a kind of Shadow War pring

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something that could be a lot worse and

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if those missiles are used against

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Israel thousands of them then you could

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see a much bigger Regional uh conflict

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engulf in the Middle East well let's

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talk then about a point tangential to

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the place that you are that the United

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Nations the Diplomatic efforts that will

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be ongoing right now as we speak

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midafternoon British time on on Thursday

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afternoon look is this an organization

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that we can engage with diplomatically

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is this an organization that we have any

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open form of communication with

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countries like the United States the

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United Kingdom institutions like the

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United Nations well it's funny I was I

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was putting that point to an American

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Diplomat yesterday and he was saying

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that they're engaged in a in an intense

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efforts to bring about a diplomatic

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solution to this conflict and I said but

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you can't do that with hisbah directly

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but he says we do have ways of bringing

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pressure to Bear indirectly on both

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hisbah and Iran and that's obviously

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through Regional Partners since so Arab

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countries uh but other countries that

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have diplomatic Channels with Iran who

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are his B's uh patrons so Britain of

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course has an embassy in Iran with a

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pretty checkered history of of being

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surrounded and attacked from time to

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time by the Iranians but it's we still

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have diplomatic relations with Iran and

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what's interesting is over the overnight

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uh in the wake of really dire

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apocalyptic mood in the UN Security

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Council there was a sense of optimism

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the Americans leading the way they and

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G7 Partners in an Arab countries saying

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that they felt a ceasefire was being put

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together and then the Americans went as

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far as saying that it would be

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implemented they believed in the coming

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hours what we've heard from Israel since

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is that that has led to a lot of anger

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amongst the Israelis at the highest

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levels of government as well they

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believe that they've got the advantage

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they've got hisbah where they want them

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and they want to press home that

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advantage and they've said there will be

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no ceasefire for now so look look whilst

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those those those efforts are continuing

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I mean surely all out war in the region

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is in with within the gift of of one

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state that state being the Islamic

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Republic of Iran as of this moment Dom

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in their in terms of their medium to

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long-term Ambitions would allout

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conflict in the region truly serve the

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desires of those running around right

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now now the answer to that is no but you

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know when you look at the Middle East it

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seems a very chaotic place and very

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unpredictable but there are basic rules

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and sort of fundamental assumptions that

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we that we generally use to kind of

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predict where events are going now one

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of those assumptions is that Iran does

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not want to allow this arsenal of

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formidable awesome Firepower of 150 odd

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thousand missiles to be used against

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Israel except for the moment when Israel

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attacks its nuclear alleged nuclear

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weapons program and and ever since

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October the 7th the that that assumption

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has been proven to be true because there

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have been a number of points where the

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Iranians could have allowed that to

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happen they could have allowed hisb to

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get involved

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in a much more hostile way in the fight

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uh with Israel and that hasn't happened

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but I think what could change is a

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number of things one could be that that

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civilian death toll becomes so high that

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Israel kills so many civilians and it is

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going after now that these sort of

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longer range missiles which are buried

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deep in the be Bear Valley away from the

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south of Lebanon as well and all of that

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could increase the risk of a much bigger

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civilian death toll and at some points

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the Iranians may feel and hisb may feel

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that they have no alternative but to

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fight back with a lot more Firepower I

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think the other change in that equation

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could be if Iran believes that the

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insurance policy that is his baller is

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fatally compromised if they think that

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his ball is just going to be completely

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destroyed and dismantled and we're not

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anywhere near that yet but the Israelis

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are certainly having a good go at it

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then the Iranians might believe they've

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got to get get involved to safeguard

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their insurance policy so you know I

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think these assumptions remain true

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until events challenge them and change

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them fundamentally and we're certainly

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moving in that direction yet but I think

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at the moment still Teran the Mullis and

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Teran the AAS they want to hold on to

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that Arsenal they don't want it

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squandered and and I think confirmation

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of that came from the Iranian president

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masu peskin when he gave a more

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consiliary tone he he wasn't urging hisb

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to do its worse when he was speaking to

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reporters here earlier in the week uh

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and he talked about Israel laying traps

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and clearly the Iranians at the moment

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don't want to fall into a trap one of

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those traps would clearly be being so

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provoked that they Unleashed that uh

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arsenal of Firepower uh Israel then

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destroyed it and the Iranians have

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nothing left to fight back if Israel

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then at some point attacks Iran within

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its own borders Dominic thanks very much

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and of course that remains the hope that

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allout conflict can be avoided next

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however we'll speak to our defense

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editor if war is coming what will it

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look like back

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soon welcome back look there can be

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precious few in the region who truly

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want allout conflict but as we have seen

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time and again in the Middle East the

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momentum towards War can sometimes be

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irresistible our defense and security

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editor Deborah Haynes is joining us from

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at Tel Aviv good to see you Deborah look

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before we get into what may well come

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next in fact to to what extent have the

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Israelis already diminished hisbah as a

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as a fighting force well this operation

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which began just over a week ago has

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been from an Israeli perspective

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incredibly effective you'll remember

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with those pager and walkie-talkie

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explosions that were in the hands of a

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lot of Hezbollah members and a Reuters

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report in the last couple of days uh

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claimed that

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1,500 Fighters were actually maimed in

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those explosions now that's not

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confirmed but that is a significant

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number however it's important to

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remember that when you actually look at

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the size of Hezbollah it's it's a huge

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paramilitary force uh exact numbers

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aren't known but uh a report to the US

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Congress put the figure at about 40 to

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50,000 Fighters uh other claims are that

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it's even bigger than that but also with

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this Israeli offensive after the pager

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and walkie-talkie strikes they began the

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the biggest air offensive against

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Hezbollah since the 2006 war and that

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has taken out a number of key commanders

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yes they are being replaced B but when

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it comes to commanding the uh the

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military operation on the ground you

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want to have experience so that seems to

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be the the Israeli tactic to go after

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the commanders too so so their

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capabilities have have definitely been

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degraded but we should make absolutely

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clear hisbah is not some ragtag group of

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mercenaries living out in the desert I

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mean this is an effective Force yes it's

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been armed and equipped by Iran and

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trained as well uh and it is you know

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more powerful than the Lebanese official

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armed forces and in terms of its actual

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weapons Arsenal yes the Israelis have

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been striking against weapons stores

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stockpiles launches but in terms of the

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numbers of short medium and longer range

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missiles and Rockets uh from the Israeli

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side they believe it's you know it's

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over a 100,000 maybe as many as 200,000

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of these missiles so while the numbers

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that they're saying that they've hit

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you know sort of thousands of different

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Munitions taken out there are many many

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more stock piles kept in and place

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across the country and that is why any

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further escalation in this conflict if

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Hezbollah for example were to unleash

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much more of its weapons Arsenal uh then

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it would be very very difficult

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impossible uh actually for Israel to be

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able to defend against all of them so it

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it would pay a price and that's the

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calculation does it believe that that is

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a a price worth playing for escalating

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this conflict even further well let's

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let's just conduct a thought experiment

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and one let's be honest which we really

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hope does not come to fruition if this

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conflict continues to escalate in the

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manner in which we've been seeing what

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would war between Israel and hisbah look

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like we we've seen the air strikes we

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assume a ground defensive would follow

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and and frankly as we have already seen

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in Gaza that can be Inc incredibly

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bloody there's obviously lots of

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different potential scenarios for how a

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fullscale war would unfold and clearly

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that's why you're seeing all these these

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efforts at diplomacy to try to pull both

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sides back from the brink but if if we

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are sort of thinking hypothetically what

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it could look like were the the obvious

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next progression to happen which would

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be some kind of land incursion then it

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really depends upon the scale of that it

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stated that its aim is to create this

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buffer zone along its Border in the

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north um to push Hezbollah Fighters back

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beyond the Lani river which was meant to

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be the line that had been agreed back in

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2006 when there was a un Security

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Council resolution following the last

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war there the supposed to be effectively

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a demilitarized area where there would

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be no weapons no Fighters and then no

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strikes by Hezbollah into Israeli

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territory um if Israel believes that

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that could be achieved just by having a

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limited ground incursion where its

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troops would only enter just slightly

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across the border maybe in limited

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numbers to Target those weapon sites and

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to try to clear that area then you know

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obviously that would that that raises uh

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the risk of further escalation clearly

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there will be fighting on the ground

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you'd expect as Hezbollah tried to push

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them back but it's not clear whether

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either side would be able to achieve

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their goals so then it raises the

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possibility of a much more aggressive

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ground incursion which would involve

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much larger numbers of troops spreading

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out across the country pushing towards

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Beirut but that is what was attempted

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back in 2006 and it did not end well um

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there was not success as the Israelis

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would see it and they were forced to

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push back and so the actual action in

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terms of the offensive on the ground

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would be bloody and very difficult

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because like you were saying Hezbollah

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is a significant fighting force Israel

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too of course it's the most P it has the

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most powerful military in this region

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but it's a military that's been at war

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in Gaza for almost a year now and so its

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troops will be tired and they will have

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limited reserves despite despite their

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forces being pretty tired after a

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year-long campaign in Gaza debor you're

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going to have to explain to me why when

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Israel possesses overwhelming air

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superiority overwhelming ground

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superiority they've certainly got the

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edge when it comes to intelligence this

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is not a conflict that they could win in

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days I mean it just underlines the

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difficulty when you're dealing with an

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unconventional Force this isn't a a

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state on state operation just look at

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what happened in Afghanistan when the

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United States the most powerful military

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in the world was not able to defeat the

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Taliban during more than two decades of

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conflict you know in in this case with

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Hezbollah it's integrated very much with

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the community with um with civilians it

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makes it very very difficult to defeat

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in military means alone and I think that

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is a massive problem here you're already

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seeing growing condemnation of the

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civilian death toll inside Lebanon I'm

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just wondering from your place in Tel

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Aviv in Israel to what extent is

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Israel's military action on his in the

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north of the country directly linked to

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the political problems that Benjamin

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Netanyahu has at the top of this

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government at the moment I mean he's uh

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under huge criticism huge pressure about

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the way that he has led the campaign

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against Hamas in Gaza and the failure to

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secure the release of all of the

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hostages the impact of the October the

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7th attack on Israel can't be

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underestimated ated in terms of

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undermining that impression amongst

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Israeli civilians that they could rely

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on their military and their intelligence

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services to protect them that has

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underpinned everything that's happened

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since there was restraint on the Israeli

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side because they knew just how

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potentially impossible it would be to

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successfully conduct two operations on

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two fronts at a large scale but over

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time there's clearly been in the back of

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the mind of the Israeli military and

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politicians this need to restore

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deterrence to restore their reputation

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as a power that can't be messed with in

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a region where let's face it they're

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surrounded by neighbors who want them to

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be

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obliterated and for the very latest on

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what's happening right now in the Middle

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