Fantasy tv is dying. Here's why.

Man Carrying Thing
25 Sept 202411:04

Summary

TLDRThe video script discusses the decline of high-budget fantasy TV shows, attributing it to the unrealistic expectations set by Game of Thrones' success. It reviews four major contenders attempting to fill the void left by Game of Thrones: Wheel of Time, The Witcher, Rings of Power, and House of the Dragon. Despite their efforts, none have achieved the same level of acclaim. The script suggests that the era of expensive fantasy TV is fading due to streaming services prioritizing profitability over quality, leading to a shift towards cheaper content production.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ“บ The script discusses the decline of high-budget fantasy TV shows and the challenges faced by the industry.
  • ๐Ÿ” It highlights how streaming services are shifting their focus from expensive fantasy productions to more cost-effective content like reality TV.
  • ๐ŸŽญ The script mentions four key contenders that were expected to be the next 'Game of Thrones': 'Wheel of Time', 'The Witcher', 'Rings of Power', and 'House of the Dragon'.
  • ๐Ÿ“‰ 'Wheel of Time' had a mixed reception and was criticized for its pacing and budget issues.
  • ๐Ÿšซ 'The Witcher' faced fan backlash over adaptation choices and saw its lead actor, Henry Cavill, exit the series.
  • ๐Ÿ“ˆ 'Rings of Power' had a high production cost but failed to capture a large audience or maintain viewer interest across seasons.
  • ๐Ÿ‰ 'House of the Dragon' suffered from budget cuts and creative differences, leading to an unfinished feeling in its second season.
  • ๐Ÿ’ธ The script points out that streaming services are no longer profitable and are cutting costs, which impacts the production quality of fantasy shows.
  • ๐Ÿ“š It suggests that the era of TV shows based on fantasy novels might be ending, as the business model returns to normal and fantasy is not as welcome.
  • ๐ŸŽจ The narrator expresses a personal love for the fantasy genre and suggests that animation might be a cost-effective way to adapt fantasy novels for the screen.
  • ๐Ÿ“ธ The script ends with a personal note from the narrator about their interest in photography and a promotion for Skillshare.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of the video script?

    -The main topic of the video script is the decline of high-budget fantasy TV shows and the challenges faced by the industry in replicating the success of 'Game of Thrones'.

  • What does the speaker attribute the decline of fantasy TV shows to?

    -The speaker attributes the decline to high production costs, streaming service models that are not profitable, and a shift in focus towards cheaper to produce content like reality TV.

  • Which four fantasy TV shows does the speaker discuss in the script?

    -The speaker discusses 'The Wheel of Time', 'The Witcher', 'Rings of Power', and 'House of the Dragon'.

  • Why does the speaker believe 'Game of Thrones' was so successful?

    -The speaker suggests 'Game of Thrones' was successful because it was different and fresh at the time, and it benefited from a unique moment in television history.

  • What is the 'reality check era' mentioned in the script?

    -The 'reality check era' refers to the current state of the streaming industry where streamers are raising prices, increasing ads, and focusing on cheaper content production, leading to a decline in high-budget fantasy TV shows.

  • What was the budget for the first season of 'Game of Thrones'?

    -The budget for the first season of 'Game of Thrones' was about 6 million per episode.

  • How does the speaker describe the adaptation of 'The Wheel of Time'?

    -The speaker describes 'The Wheel of Time' as feeling rushed, looking like a CW show, and having a generally good capture of the book's feel despite some mistakes.

  • What issue does the speaker have with 'Rings of Power'?

    -The speaker criticizes 'Rings of Power' for its lackluster reception, huge lore changes, and a storytelling style that leaves both die-hard fans and casual viewers unsatisfied.

  • Why did the second season of 'House of the Dragon' face criticism?

    -The second season of 'House of the Dragon' faced criticism due to its slow pace, repetitive scenes, plot conveniences, and a lack of forward momentum, making it feel like filler.

  • What does the speaker suggest as a potential solution for the high costs of fantasy TV production?

    -The speaker suggests that animation could be a potential solution for making fantasy TV shows cheaper to produce.

  • What hobby does the speaker mention they have been exploring?

    -The speaker mentions they have been exploring photography as a new hobby.

Outlines

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๐Ÿ“บ The Decline of Fantasy TV Shows

The paragraph discusses the fall from grace of fantasy TV shows, particularly in the wake of the highly anticipated but ultimately disappointing final season of 'Game of Thrones'. It highlights the 'fantasy boom' that began with the success of 'Game of Thrones' and how networks and streamers sought to replicate this success with shows like 'Wheel of Time', 'The Witcher', 'Rings of Power', and 'House of the Dragon'. The paragraph also touches on the high expectations set by 'Game of Thrones' and the challenges these shows faced in meeting viewer demands, including budget constraints, rushed production, and a shift in the industry towards more profitable, less ambitious content.

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๐Ÿ“‰ The Struggles of Fantasy Adaptations

This paragraph delves into the specific struggles of the fantasy adaptations mentioned, such as 'Wheel of Time', which improved in its second season but was still criticized for its pace and production quality. 'The Witcher' faced fan backlash and lost its lead actor, while 'Rings of Power' suffered from a lack of audience engagement despite its high budget. 'House of the Dragon' saw a decline in viewership and criticism of its pacing and plot conveniences. The paragraph also discusses the broader industry trends, including the streaming service model's shift towards less expensive content and the impact of budget cuts and corporate decisions on the quality and production of these shows.

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๐Ÿ“ธ Exploring New Creative Outlets

The final paragraph shifts focus from the decline of fantasy TV to the speaker's personal exploration of new hobbies, particularly photography. They discuss their enjoyment of Skillshare, a learning platform for creatives, and mention the various classes available for skills like film, illustration, and animation. The speaker encourages viewers to try Skillshare with a free trial offer and thanks their patrons for their support. The paragraph ends on a personal note, wishing viewers happiness and love in their lives.

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Keywords

๐Ÿ’กFantasy Genre

The fantasy genre is a style of literature, film, television, and video games that commonly uses magic, supernatural elements, and imaginary worlds. In the video, the fantasy genre is discussed as a significant part of television's history, with shows like 'Game of Thrones' leading a boom in the genre. The video explores how various shows have tried to capture the same success, indicating the fantasy genre's impact on the entertainment industry.

๐Ÿ’กGame of Thrones

'Game of Thrones' is a fantasy television series that became a cultural phenomenon. The video uses it as a benchmark for the success of fantasy shows. It discusses how other series have tried to replicate its formula, highlighting the show's influence on the genre and the high bar it set for subsequent fantasy TV series.

๐Ÿ’กStreaming Services

Streaming services are platforms that deliver content over the internet. The video mentions streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime Video, which have been instrumental in the production and distribution of fantasy series. The discussion indicates how these platforms have been searching for the next big fantasy hit, shaping the landscape of fantasy TV shows.

๐Ÿ’กBudget Cuts

Budget cuts refer to the reduction of allocated funds for a project. In the context of the video, budget cuts are mentioned as a reason for the decline in quality and production value of some fantasy shows. The script specifically discusses how HBO had to cut episodes of 'House of the Dragon' due to financial constraints, affecting the narrative and viewer experience.

๐Ÿ’กIP (Intellectual Property)

An Intellectual Property (IP) refers to creations of the mind, such as inventions, literary and artistic works, designs, symbols, names, and images used in commerce. The video discusses various IPs like 'The Wheel of Time' and 'The Lord of the Rings', which have been adapted into TV series. The script uses these IPs to illustrate the high stakes and expectations when adapting well-known fantasy works for television.

๐Ÿ’กViewership

Viewership refers to the number of people watching a particular show or program. The video script mentions a decline in viewership for certain fantasy series, indicating a shift in audience interest and the challenges these shows face in retaining viewers, which is crucial for their success and continuation.

๐Ÿ’กRings of Power

Rings of Power refers to the television series 'The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power', an adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's 'The Lord of the Rings'. The video discusses the series as an example of a high-budget fantasy show that has not met expectations, despite the popularity of the source material, illustrating the challenges of adapting beloved IPs for television.

๐Ÿ’กHouse of the Dragon

'House of the Dragon' is a prequel series to 'Game of Thrones'. The video uses it as an example of a show that started strong but faced issues in subsequent seasons, possibly due to corporate interference and budget cuts. It reflects the impact of external factors on the creative process and the final product of fantasy TV series.

๐Ÿ’กCancellation

Cancellation, in the context of television, refers to the termination of a TV series. The video script mentions the cancellation of shows and the challenges faced by the fantasy genre, indicating a broader trend where shows that do not meet certain benchmarks are discontinued, affecting the genre's presence on TV.

๐Ÿ’กReality Check Era

The term 'Reality Check Era' is used in the video to describe a shift in television programming towards more cost-effective content, such as reality TV, and away from high-budget fantasy series. It signifies a change in the industry's approach to content production, where the focus is on profitability and viewer retention, rather than investing in expensive, ambitious shows.

๐Ÿ’กSkillshare

Skillshare is mentioned in the video as a platform for learning various creative skills, including photography, which the presenter has taken up as a hobby. It serves as an example of how individuals can explore and develop their interests outside of the fantasy TV genre, suggesting alternative avenues for creative fulfillment.

Highlights

The cancellation of the 9th and 10th episodes of House of the Dragon Season 2 is a notable event in the fantasy TV genre.

Shows are being canceled, stars are dropping out, and viewership is plummeting, indicating a shift in the fantasy TV landscape.

The fantasy boom started with the rise of Game of Thrones in 2015, leading to a surge in fantasy genre TV shows.

Streaming services are now hunting for the next big fantasy show after the success of Game of Thrones.

Game of Thrones set a high bar for success, not just in quality but also in viewership and cultural impact.

Wheel of Time was an early contender to be the next big fantasy show, with a high budget and beloved source material.

The Witcher had star appeal and a successful video game adaptation, making it a strong contender.

Amazon's Rings of Power was a massive gamble, with a high price tag and the potential to be the next big hit.

House of the Dragon was HBO's attempt to fill the vacuum left by Game of Thrones, with high expectations.

None of the new fantasy shows have reached the heights of Game of Thrones in terms of critical acclaim or popularity.

The decline of high-budget adult fantasy TV is not just due to the genre but also the changing TV industry.

Streaming services are now focusing on cheaper to produce content, affecting the production of high-budget fantasy shows.

The slow pace and lack of forward momentum in House of the Dragon Season 2 led to a feeling of filler content.

George R.R. Martin disavowed the direction of House of the Dragon in a now-deleted blog post.

Budget cuts and strikes have forced shows to reduce episodes, affecting the quality and storytelling.

The future of fantasy on TV may lie in cheaper production methods, such as animation.

The era of high-budget fantasy TV seems to be ending, with a return to more traditional TV business models.

The author's personal interest in photography and the use of Skillshare for learning new creative skills.

Transcripts

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hi everyone today you're watching man

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carrying fantasy psych it's over it's so

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over bro you like your little stories

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about kings and queens each other too

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bad it's time to eat your government

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mandated Netflix True Crime slop what

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happened how did we get from this to

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this sorry this blank screen is a visual

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representation of the n9th and 10th

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episodes of H of the Dragon season 2 why

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because they don't exist because of

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reasons I will get to later in this

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video that you're watching uh right

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exactly right now shows canceled Stars

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dropping out mean words spoken and

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viewership plummeting I mean it's hard

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to remember that it wasn't always like

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this there once was a beautiful moment

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in television a moment called 2015 if

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you're like me you've been witnessed to

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an exciting time in the fantasy genre

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they're calling it the fantasy boom with

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the unexpected rise of Game of Thrones

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TV networks and streamers got wise to

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the fact that fantasy is an awesome

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genre and that it can work very well in

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serialized form but with every boom

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comes a bust no I said bust thank you

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and while I don't think we're fully at

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that point we're defin on our way there

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is a culprit here and no it isn't that

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Game of Thrones shat the bed in its

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final season a season so bad even I know

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what happens in it I haven't even

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watched the show I just started reading

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the books for this month because I'm

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addicted to showing up late to parties

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point is it's stin and since then

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streaming services have been hunting for

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the next big fantasy show but not just a

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fantasy show oh no no and here's the

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first part of the problem Game of

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Thrones raised the bar a little too high

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not in terms of quality but success

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Network Executives instead of looking

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for a sustainable long-term solution

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wanted the white whale the next Game of

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Thrones we had some early contenders um

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I'd say roughly uh four but not all of

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them could be the chosen one let's go

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through them right now on Who Wants to

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be the next Game of Thrones contestant

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number one in my mind Wheel of Time was

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the fantasy fans adaptation beloved

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Source material long neglected getting

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the high budget Amazon treatment with a

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a genuine movie star there's a million

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books and it is finished part Lord of

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the Rings part Dune and entirely insane

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kind of a logical choice for an unmined

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IP contestant number two The Witcher had

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the star appeel and the Netflix branding

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and also went for game of thrones's dark

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tone and already had a successful video

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game adaptation I always had a sense

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that this had the most going for it

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contestant number three Amazon's massive

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gamble after purchasing the rights to

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the Lord of the Rings for something like

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a hundred billion trillion trillion

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dollars Jeff Bezos was challenging the

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gods with a show almost too big to fail

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it had to work right I mean it cost the

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most but there were promising signs too

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like unknown showrunners who were

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reportedly toen obsessive to me this was

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the riskiest but it had the most

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potential contestant number four finally

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HBO's answer to the vacuum they created

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they had a million George R Martin

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stories in the works but this took

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precedent this was another gamble in a

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way you know betting millions of dollars

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that there was still Goodwill toward

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this IP that's the question huh so there

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they are you know the four contestants

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let's see who the winner is the next

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Game of Thrones

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is I'm drawing this out so much because

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you know the answer everyone knows the

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answer it was rings of

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power just kidding it was none of them

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so no fantasy show has reached the

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critical and popular Heights of Game of

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Thrones but has any show really I mean

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that's the thing not to sound like

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Debbie Downer but in the year 2024 it's

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starting to feel like that era of TV is

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Gone Forever part two to understand the

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broader death of fantasy TV let's look

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back at our contestants and see how they

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fared Wheel of Time wasn't the worst

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case scenario some people really love it

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and it certainly got better in the

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second season I have my own opinions if

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you've got an hour to spare problem with

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dissecting a TV show over something like

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a novel is that so many external factors

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go into the sex or failure of a project

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was it clumsy riding and a rushed Pace

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or did Amazon simply demand fewer

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episodes and crunch the budget people

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underestimate how many useless

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Executives just stand around and make

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dumb decisions all day yeah Wheel of

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Time feels rushed it looks like a CW

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Show and huge mistakes were made but it

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generally captures the feel of the books

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generally then why didn't it reach that

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level of Game of Thrones in Zack Baron's

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GQ article on the making of the show he

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writes for the first season of Thrones

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HBO spent about 6 million in episode a

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number that steadily climbed from there

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Amazon in The Wheel of Time starting at

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Upward of a reported 10 million per

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episode simply put expectations for

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Fantasy have changed this isn't the days

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of Merlin anymore the budget is going to

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affect actor locations each episode

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needs to feel like a movie as a result

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we get shorter and shorter Seasons these

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are Hefty books and to put even one of

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these things into Eight Episodes is

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pushing it the result is a rushed Pace

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convoluted plotting and characters we

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don't have time to care about do you

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guys really think they'd give 14 Seasons

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to cover this 14 book series I'd be

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surprised if we got anything past three

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The Witcher is a show I honestly never

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cared about I mean I'm happy it has fans

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but it seemed like from the start it was

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a mixed bag fans of the book were angry

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over choices in the adaptation and it

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sounds like the angry fans included the

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star of the show Henry caval himself who

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exited the series under mysterious

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circumstances to be replaced by Liam

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Hemsworth for the third and fourth

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season it seems like the star power

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wasn't enough to keep this show popular

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I think it had good numbers for sure but

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it wasn't water cooler TV which brings

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us to rings of powers lackluster

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everything only about half as many US

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households watched the season 2 premiere

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as did the series opener over their

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first 3 days of release the first season

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cost $715 million and even though the

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second season is doing well by Amazon

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standards it isn't capturing viewers

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attention only 37% of viewers in the US

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watched season 1 to completion the fact

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that they're losing viewers in season 2

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is a bad sign you know I could talk a

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lot about why this show doesn't work but

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mainly I want to ask who is this for

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token fans are horrified by the huge

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lore changes and casual fans are bored

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to death by the almost Wikipedia style

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storytelling Amazon can only adapt stuff

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in The Lord of the Rings but everything

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in this show is told in more depth in

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the sarion a property they don't even

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own also Amazon put all their faith into

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virtually untested showrunners who

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themselves admit that making the show

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was a massive learning experience at one

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point the showrunners asked mentor and

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former boss JJ Abrams to call Amazon to

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put in a good word which kind of makes

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sense the show suffers incredibly from a

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storytelling tactic called the mystery

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box which has been been championed by JJ

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Abrams over the years basically you give

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the audience a mystery to be answered

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even if it's something simple and you

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run with it doesn't even matter what the

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mystery is rings of power has quite a

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few mainly is that Sauron is that Sauron

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is that Sauron is that saon you you get

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the point if you want an extensive

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breakdown and a great video about this

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show hello future me has the king of

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them all let's bring it all back home to

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HBO or I guess Max now even though I

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never watched Game of Thrones I've

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become a huge fan of House of the Dragon

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the first season was beautiful and

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tragic and Patty Constantine gave the

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perform perance of a lifetime it seemed

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like it was pretty popular but then

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season 2 arrived and the cracks started

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to show the slow but steady Pace has

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become glacial repetitive scenes plot

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conveniences and a lack of forward

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momentum made for a season that felt

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like filler yeah there were great

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moments but by the end it felt like

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nothing had meaningfully changed on top

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of that George RR Martin disavowed the

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direction of the show on a now deleted

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blog post so what's going on did the

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writers just suddenly lose their talent

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or did the corporate people do something

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yeah yeah it was the corporate people

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Warner Brothers Discovery under the

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reign of David zaslav suffering

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tremendously and is forced to slash

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budgets left and right it's hard

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everyone's suffering except David zaslav

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himself who made $49 Million last year

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because of budget cuts and the actors

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and writer strikes the show was forced

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to cut the last two episodes which would

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have included very climactic battles

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this is why the season feels just kind

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of unfinished but don't worry we'll get

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to see the rest of it very soon in 2026

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let's stop for a second and make some

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conclusions these four shows have been

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interesting case studies to see how an

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industry attempts to recreate an anomaly

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first you get a well-known IP then you

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throw money at it the end the decline of

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high budget adult fantasy TV isn't just

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because of the fantasy genre it's

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because of TV itself the streaming

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service model which revolutionized the

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industry is now killing it here's the

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secret streaming was never profitable it

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was propped up by novelty by big Tech's

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willingness to destroy yet another

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industry with the promise of something

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better only to give you a worse version

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of what you already had it's like uber

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and ride share apps what if we made

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taxis but it's just random independent

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contractors using their own Vehicles

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making next to nothing Uber lost money

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in order to destroy an existing business

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model similarly streaming destroyed a

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profitable business model in order to

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make a worse product how many 22 episode

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series do you see anymore I mean I could

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go on forever about this I made a video

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going deeper into this topic already

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I'll just say that fantasy is in the

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crosshairs in this new era let's call

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this era the reality check era in the

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reality check streamers are raising

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prices increasing ads and focusing on

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cheap to produce content such as reality

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TV basically it's becoming Network TV

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again fantasy never really thrived in

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that landscape fantasy as we've come to

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expect it is expensive as to

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produce if you want movie quality

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dragons don't expect much more than six

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or eight episodes and if these fantasy

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shows aren't bringing Prestige or huge

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viewerships then like what's the point

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from a business perspective you're

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already seeing this attitude shift HBO

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forcing their Flagship series to cut two

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episodes because of budget is crazy

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similarly the witchers ending after its

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fourth season if not sooner in the near

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future only proven IPS will be gracing

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the small screen no matter how needless

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and unwanted wanted uh there's no longer

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the same money or energy to create

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gamechanging fantasy when Game of

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Thrones came out it was different and

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fresh just like many of the shows of

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that Golden Era the business is going

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back to normal and fantasy was never

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really welcome in that time so what do

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we do now I love fantasy as a genre and

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I think TV is a perfect way to adapt

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fantasy novels which are often long as

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hell perhaps we find a way to make

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fantasy cheap to make even though

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animation isn't particularly cheap it's

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cheaper than any of these shows and

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seems like an obvious Avenue if my

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beloved Stormlight Archive got adapted

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as an animated series I would be

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happy moral of the story

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fantasy it's not your fault I love you

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fantasy and if you aren't destined to

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stay on the small screen at least we see

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you on the big one probably and in books

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of course but books are not a visual

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medium what is a visual medium

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photography and what is my new favorite

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hobby photography even though I'm am

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only a novice at photography and I am

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still the master of transitions in

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