Extrusion Quality - Mystery issue resolved !

MirageC
28 Oct 202221:43

Summary

TLDRこの動画スクリプトでは、高品質な3Dプリンティングの理論と実際の課題について解説されています。特に、ハイエンドマシンで表面品質を維持する困難さについて焦点を当てています。スクリプトでは、時間の管理、ノズルの位置、および樹脂の量の排出が表面品質に影響を与える可能性があることが示されています。また、Extruderの精度が重要であることが強調されており、Bowden設置と直接駆動Extruderの違いも検証されています。最後に、改善されたExtruder歯車や平面ベアリングを使用した実験が行われ、それらが表面品質にどのように影響するかが詳細に説明されています。

Takeaways

  • 🔍 品質の良い印刷の理論は、適切な量のプラスチックを適切な場所とタイミングで提供することです。
  • 💡 高級機で高品質の印刷面を実現するのが難しい理由は、多くの要因が関与しているからです。
  • 🌟 照明条件は、3Dプリンティングで作られた部品の外観に大きな影響を与えることができます。
  • 📊 印刷品質の問題は、時序、ノズル位置、Z軸の揺れ、プラスチックの排出量のいずれかの要因による可能性があります。
  • 🔧 時序の問題は、ソフトウェア、エクストラハーサのモーター、XおよびYの動きのタイミングによって管理されます。
  • 🎯 ノズルの位置の問題は、XまたはY軸の位置、安定性、およびZ軸の揺れに関連する可能性があります。
  • 🚀 ボウルデンアダプターを使用したことで、非常に高品質の印刷が得られました。これは、直接駆動エクストラハーサの過剰な直接性を示唆しています。
  • 🔩 エクストラハーサのシステムを分解し、正しい根本原因を正確に特定するために、個々の要素を調査する必要があります。
  • 📐 歯車や軸の精度は、エクストラハーサシステムの印刷品質に直接影響を与えるため、精密な部品が必要です。
  • 🔄 フィラメントの品質と直径の一致も、エクストラハーサシステムの精度に影響を与えるため、品質の高いフィラメントを使用することが重要です。
  • 🛠️ イドラーギアや軸の配置が適切でない場合、フィラメントの位置が変わり、印刷品質に影響を与える可能性があります。

Q & A

  • 高品質の印刷を実現するために必要な要素は何ですか?

    -高品質の印刷を実現するためには、適切な量のプラスチックを正確な場所とタイミングで供給することが重要です。

  • なぜ高級機でも表面品質を向上させることが難しいのですか?

    -高級機でも表面品質を向上させることが難しいのは、印刷機のタイミング、ノズルの位置、Z軸の揺れ、プラスチックの供給量など、多くの要因が関係しているからです。これらの要因を完全にコントロールすることは困難であり、運要素も一定の影響を与えるためです。

  • どのような設定がFDM印刷において最悪の照明条件を作り出しますか?

    -FDM印刷において最悪の照明条件は、頂部から尖锐な光が当たる状況を作り出します。これにより、レイヤーの積み重ね方や不規則な表面が明らかに見えてしまいます。

  • Bowden方式の印刷機がどのような利点を持ちますか?

    -Bowden方式の印刷機は、長いチューブが使用されるため、ノズル内のプラスチックの圧力が安定し、表面品質が向上することが期待できます。しかし、再tractionや圧力の調整が必要なため、調整が難しい場合があります。

  • エクストラダーの精密度が表面品質に与える影響は何ですか?

    -エクストラダーの精密度が表面品質に与える影響は大きいです。エクストラダーの歯車や軸の精度が不足していると、プラスチックの供給量にばらつきが生じ、表面に不規則なパターンが現れる可能性があります。

  • 製造公差がエクストラダーの性能に与える影響は何ですか?

    -製造公差がエクストラダーの性能に大きな影響を与えます。歯車のHub gearの軸へのオフセットやフィラメントの直径の变化など、わずかな公差もレイヤーの厚さや幅に影響を与え、最終的な表面品質に大きな違いをもたらす可能性があります。

  • Z軸の揺れが原因となっている場合、どのような症状が見られますか?

    -Z軸の揺れが原因となっている場合、印刷物の表面に一定の間隔で繰り返し出现的する異常なパターンが見られます。これは、Z軸の揺れがフィラメントの供給位置に影響を与え、連続したレイヤーに同じエラーが現れることを意味します。

  • 3Dプリンタのエクストラダーシステムを改善するためにどのようなアプローチを取ることができますか?

    -エクストラダーシステムを改善するためには、歯車や軸の精度を向上させること、製造公差を緩和すること、またエクストラダーの設計を最適化することが有効です。また、Bowden方式のシステムと比較して、直接駆動のエクストラダーの利点と課題を検討し、適切な方法を選択することも重要です。

  • なぜエクストラダーの歯車や軸が表面品質に影響を与えるのですか?

    -エクストラダーの歯車や軸が表面品質に影響を与えるのは、これらの部品の精度がプラスチックの供給量に直接影響を与えるからです。歯車や軸の歪みや軸の回転中心からのずれが、プラスチックの流量を変動させ、最終的に表面に不規則なパターンを生み出すことがあります。

  • どのようにしてエクストラダーの精度を向上させることができますか?

    -エクストラダーの精度を向上させるためには、高精度な部品を使用することが効果的です。また、エクストラダーの設計を改善し、歯車や軸の一体化、軸の支えを強化することが役立ちます。さらに、製造プロセスを改善して公差を減らすことで、エクストラダーの全体的な精度を向上させることができます。

  • エクストラダーの調整において、PIDチューニングとは何ですか?

    -PIDチューニングは、エクストラダーのホットエンドの温度制御を最適化するプロセスです。PID(比例・積分・微分)コントローラーは、温度エラーを最小限に抑えるために、加热期、保温期、および冷却期の時間を調整します。これにより、プラスチックの熔融状態を安定させ、表面品質を向上させることができます。

  • エクストラダーシステムのトラブルシューティングにおいて、フィラメントの品質はどのよう影響を与えるのですか?

    -エクストラダーシステムのトラブルシューティングにおいて、フィラメントの品質は重要な要素です。フィラメントの直径が均一でない場合や、品質が低い場合は、流量の変化を引き起こし、表面品質に影響を与える可能性があります。したがって、高品質なフィラメントを選択し、管理することで、エクストラダーシステムのトラブルシューティングが容易になります。

Outlines

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🖨️ 印刷品質の謎

高品質な印刷の背後にある理論は単純であり、適切な量のプラスチックを適切な場所に、適切なタイミングで供給することです。しかし、高価な機械でもPrusaやよく調整されたEnder 3と同等の表面品質を実現するのが難しい理由を探ります。FDM印刷のための最悪の照明条件を使用して、層の積み重ねが醜いことを露呈します。高価なプリンターの一部で見られる表面品質の問題の原因を探求し、ソフトウェアのタイミング、ノズルの位置、エクストルーダーの圧力など、可能性のある原因を分析します。バーズモードでの印刷とX、Yガントリーの位置合わせの検証、Z軸のウォブル問題への対処方法など、品質問題の解決に向けた探求を始めます。

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🔍 エクストルーダーシステムの分析

エクストルーダーシステムを細分化して、品質問題の根本原因を特定します。ステッパードライバーからフィラメントを押し出す一連の部品まで、システムの各要素を詳細に検証します。以前のボーデンプリントの成功から、ステッパードライバー、モーター、フィラメント、ホットエンドを問題の原因から除外し、システムの他の部分に焦点を当てます。一つずつ変数を変えながらのテストを通じて、表面品質に影響を与えない要因を排除し、BMGクローンのエクストルーダーギアへの変更が表面テクスチャの向上につながることを発見します。

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🎯 精度問題の特定

ハブギアの軸ずれがエクストルーダーの精度に大きな影響を与えることを発見します。製造公差によってハブギアが軸からずれ、これが押し出されるプラスチックの量に影響を与えることが明らかになりました。ハブギアのわずかな軸ずれでも、押し出されるフィラメントの量に大きな違いが生じ、これが表面品質に影響を与えることをシミュレーションを通じて確認します。この発見は、エクストルーダーの精度が3D印刷の品質に非常に重要であることを示しています。

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🛠️ ソリューションの模索

金属ギアの軸ずれを解決するために、さまざまな改良策を試みますが、問題は依然として残ります。プラスチックギアにも同様の軸ずれがあり、これが品質問題の一因であることに気づきます。Bontechから新しいシャフトを試すものの、依然として問題は解決せず、物理的なギアの精度が根本的な問題であることが明らかになります。新しい、より精密なギアの導入とそのテストを経て、表面品質における改善を観察しますが、完全な解決には至りません。

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🔬 精密なエクストルーダーの重要性

エクストルーダーの精度が3D印刷品質に極めて重要であることを再確認し、フィラメントの製造公差も品質に大きく影響することを指摘します。精密なエクストルーダーシステムを構築するためには、より良いコンポーネントの選択が重要であること、また、精度の高いフィラメントを選択することの重要性を強調します。改良されたダイレクトドライブ構成の下で、Bowden方式に近い品質が得られたと述べ、最終的に、エクストルーダーの精度を向上させることが3D印刷の表面品質を高める鍵であると結論づけます。

Mindmap

Keywords

💡quality printing

Quality printing refers to the process of achieving high-quality surface finishes on 3D printed objects. In the context of the video, it is defined by the precise extrusion of plastic at the right location and time. The video discusses the challenges in achieving consistent surface quality, especially with high-end machines, and explores the factors that can lead to imperfections such as layer stacking and irregular surfaces.

💡layer stacking

Layer stacking is a visual artifact that occurs in 3D printing when the layers of plastic are not properly aligned or fused, leading to a rough or uneven surface appearance. It is a critical issue addressed in the video, as it directly affects the aesthetics and sometimes the structural integrity of the printed parts.

💡pressure advance

Pressure advance is a feature in 3D printing software that helps synchronize the extrusion of filament with the printer's movement. It ensures that the correct amount of plastic is extruded during starts, stops, and cornering. In the video, the speaker discusses how pressure advance might not be the cause of the surface quality issues they are experiencing due to the use of vase mode, which has a continuous and steady extrusion flow.

💡Z wobble

Z wobble refers to the lateral movement or instability of the print bed along the Z-axis during printing. This can cause horizontal artifacts in the printed object and is usually a result of misaligned or crooked lead screws. The video script mentions Z wobble as a potential cause of the irregular surface patterns, but the speaker rules it out based on the behavior of the pattern distance changing with the size of the printed part.

💡extruder system

The extruder system is a critical component of a 3D printer responsible for feeding the filament into the hot end where it is melted and deposited onto the build platform. The video delves deep into the mechanics of the extruder system, discussing its various parts and their impact on print quality. Issues with the extruder system can lead to inconsistencies in the amount of plastic being extruded, affecting the surface finish of the print.

💡Bowden setup

A Bowden setup in 3D printing refers to a configuration where the extruder motor and the filament path are separated from the hot end. This setup often results in smoother prints due to the dampening effect of the longer tube that reduces vibrations and pressure fluctuations. The video highlights the author's positive experience with a Bowden setup and how it led to better print quality compared to direct drive extruders.

💡manufacturing tolerances

Manufacturing tolerances are the allowable variations in the dimensions and specifications of a manufactured part. In the context of 3D printing, tolerances in the extruder system components and the filament can affect the precision of extrusion, leading to variations in layer width and surface quality. The video emphasizes the importance of tight manufacturing tolerances for achieving high-quality prints.

💡flow variation

Flow variation refers to changes in the rate at which filament is extruded by the 3D printer. Inconsistent flow can lead to uneven layers and surface artifacts in the printed object. The video uses the concept of flow variation to explain how slight changes in the extrusion process can significantly impact the print quality.

💡direct drive extruder

A direct drive extruder is a type of extruder where the motor is in direct contact with the filament, driving it directly without the use of a Bowden tube. While this setup can offer certain advantages, the video highlights that it can also make the printer more sensitive to manufacturing defects and variations, as there is no dampening effect to smooth out inconsistencies.

💡radial runout

Radial runout is a term used to describe the deviation of a rotating part from its true rotational center. In 3D printers, radial runout in the extruder gears can lead to inconsistent extrusion, as it causes variations in the amount of plastic being pushed through the hot end. The video emphasizes the importance of minimizing radial runout to achieve consistent and high-quality prints.

💡surface quality

Surface quality refers to the smoothness, uniformity, and overall appearance of the outer surface of a 3D printed object. High surface quality is often desired for aesthetic or functional reasons, and it is greatly influenced by the precision of the extrusion process and the printer's mechanical stability. The entire video is dedicated to exploring the factors that affect surface quality in 3D printing and potential solutions to improve it.

Highlights

The core principle of quality printing is the precise delivery of plastic to the correct location at the right time.

High-end machines sometimes struggle to match the print surface quality of a Prusa or well-tuned Ender 3.

The presenter aims to reveal the truth about high-end printers and the role of luck in achieving good wall surface quality.

The timing of the print is managed by the software, extruder motor, and the synchronization of X and Y movements.

Pressure advance ensures the correct amount of plastic is available during starts, stops, and cornering.

The presenter questions the role of timing in surface quality issues, as it is not the focus of the day's investigation.

Nozzle positioning on the heater bed is crucial and should be carefully aligned and stable to avoid artifacts.

Z-wobble can cause horizontal artifacts but is unlikely to be the cause if the pattern distance varies with part size.

The extruder system is broken down into elements to pinpoint the root cause of surface quality issues.

The stepper driver, motor, and hot end are ruled out as causes due to their consistent performance in a Bowden setup.

A BMG clone extruder gear assembly produced better results, indicating the importance of gear quality.

Manufacturing tolerances can affect the position of the hub gear on its shaft, leading to uneven extrusion.

A simulation is run to demonstrate the impact of gear runout on the extrusion process and print quality.

The extruder should be considered a precision instrument, and better components are needed for direct drive machines.

Filament quality and consistency also play a significant role in the extrusion process and final print quality.

A revised gear assembly that combines the shaft and hub gear as one part is developed to reduce runout.

After testing various components, the idler gear is identified as the likely source of the persistent artifact.

Replacing the idler gear with plane bearings eliminates the artifact, indicating the importance of maintaining proper alignment.

The presenter concludes that a more precise extruder system directly translates to better surface quality.

Transcripts

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the theory behind quality printing is

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fairly simple

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the right amount of plastic to the right

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location at the right time

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this sounds easy

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so tell me why is it that we struggle so

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much with our high-end machines to

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achieve the same print surface quality

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as a prusa or a well-tuned Ender 3.

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every picture or video showcasing

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printed Parts on the internet will make

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use of a soft light coming from the side

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to make your part look good

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very rarely do we see these prints under

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a sharp light coming from the top

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in this video I will be using the worst

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lighting conditions for fdm printing

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ever

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be ready to see some very ugly layer

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stacking

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I think it is one of the biggest Untold

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Truth About a lot of high-end printers

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until now luck has been playing a huge

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role into your printer's ability to

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produce nice wall surface quality

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I may receive rocks for making this

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comment but I can tell you that this was

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the case for my printer as well until

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now

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today we will find the answers to your

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surface quality issues once for good

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what could be the cause of this artifact

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sometimes horizontal or at angle other

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times creating irregular surfaces let's

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try to isolate which of these three

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elements could be responsible

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the timing portion of the print is

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managed via the software extruder motor

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needs to be in perfect sync with X and Y

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movements the pressure Advanced function

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will ensure that the right amount of

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plastic is available for starts stops

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and during cornering

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since I used vase mode for this cylinder

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pressure Advance would not have much

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impact because there is no stop and go

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it is a continuous and steady Extrusion

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flow

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therefore I don't think timing is

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involved in what we're looking for today

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the next probable cause is the

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positioning of the nozzle on the havort

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I took extra care about the location

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alignment and stability of the X and Y

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Gantry during design

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by selected Quality Parts and validated

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the installation at every step

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the typical artifact from a defective X

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or y-axis would repeat itself at the

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same spot for each layer this would

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eventually create a vertical pattern

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that we don't see right here

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and horizontal artifact could be related

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to Z Wubble

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on a core x y z wobbling is usually

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caused by the lateral movement of the

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print bed due to misaligned or crooked

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lead screws

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you can see my previous video on the

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topic right here

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the triple z-mounted on both screws for

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this printer is the part that gave me

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the most challenges

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but I have reached my goal with the

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wobble X isolators

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thanks to my good friend Oleg for coming

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up with this idea

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you will see more on this solution in a

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future video so make sure to subscribe

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and activate the notification button so

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you don't miss any of that

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the issue I'm looking at right now has a

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weird Behavior the pattern distance will

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vary if I change the size of the part

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being printed therefore chances that it

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is the result of z-wobbling are very

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slim

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Z wobbling would be constant no matter

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what I print the same distance between

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each artifact would repeat across the

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print

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so if it is not X or Y

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if it is not Z

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and if it is not the timing

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this leaves us with the amount of

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plastic being extruded

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really

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but you're going to tell me my extruder

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was perfectly calibrated using the 120

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and 100 millimeter technique and then

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with the single wall Cube to calibrate

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the flow multiplying Factor

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I've even performed PID tuning of the

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hot and eater with cooling fan on and

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filament extruding how can this be

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related to extruding system

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I never thought of deep diving into

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extruders until I made a Bowden adapter

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for my printer

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Magic

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the nicest print I ever produced

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appeared in front of my eyes at the

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first use of this Bowden setup

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why is Bowden producing such nice prints

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could it be that our very short path

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direct drives extruders are in fact too

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much Direct

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could the dampening effect of the Bowden

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tube and the filament compression on all

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that length contribute to stabilize the

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pressure inside the nozzle

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I like printing fast and you know it

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but the length of the tube required from

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my printer size made the retraction and

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pressure at best to slow things down by

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a way work

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so slow that I could not live with this

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what could I do to smoothen the extruder

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system without using this long tube so

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let's break the extruder system into

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elements so we can properly pinpoint to

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the right root cause

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it all starts with the stepper driver

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providing inputs to the stepper motor

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with the help of its pinion gear the

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stepper motor will then drive the

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extruder plastic gear that is connected

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to the shaft

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holding the extruder gear itself

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that extruder gear is then providing

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power to The Idler gear via the gear

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teeth at the end

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both gears are then squeezing the

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filament and pushing it downwards into

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the hot end

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this sounds like a very simple system

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but I think we can shorten that list

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even more

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so just remember for my Bowden print

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that looked so good before I was using

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the same filament the same hot end the

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same stepper driver and the same motor

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so let's remove them from the equation

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for now

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with a methodical approach I printed the

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same G-Code while changing only one

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parameter at the time

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this allowed me to eliminate many things

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that had no significant impact on the

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surface quality

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it was not due to microstepping not due

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to motor current not due to the motor

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itself not to backlash between the motor

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pinion and the drive gear not the

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meshing of The Idler gear yeah you

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probably think that this has to do

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something but trust me I even went and

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grinded the teeth off of one of my idler

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gear to test that one

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no impact

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I then swap to another extruder gear

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assembly one that came into a BMG clone

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that I had in stock

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surprise

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the results were much better I still had

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a bit of that artifact but overall the

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texture was way smoother

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we are getting closer I feel

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looking at the BMG gear carefully I

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realized that the Hub gear could get out

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of axis the thing is that the current

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design allows for the manufacturing

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tolerances to affect the position of the

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Hub gear on its shaft

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if tolerances for the gear inside

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diameter are at the maximum and the ones

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for the shaft at the minimum

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the set screw will be able to pull the

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Hub gear out of its rotation Center

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the gear will now be rotating in a

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manner where we get more plastic on half

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of the rotation and less on the other

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half of the rotation

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we could picture the flow variation as a

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sine wave

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you can try printing a 30 millimeter

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single wall cylinder like this one and

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then change the timing of this sine wave

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by increasing the Extrusion flow or

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reducing it as you are printing

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see how the artifact pattern is

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completely changing with flow variation

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on this tube

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to quantify the flow variation I

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measured the amount of run out of the

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Hub gear of my BMG units and noticed a

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slight amount of the aviation

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but how much is too much

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can I run out of three thou of an inch

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create such an artifact

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yeah okay I know inches here in Canada

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we mix both systems

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I drive at 100 kilometers an hour but I

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am six foot one tall

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anyways because 3D printing is using the

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good system

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let's convert that 3000 inch into

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something more meaningful

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three thou of an inch multiplied by 25.4

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millimeter per inch gives us 76.2

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microns that still does not sound like a

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whole lot to me

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but what does that really mean when we

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print

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let's run a little simulation

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our gear has a diameter at the Hub of

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7.2 millimeter if we offset that gear by

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half of that total run out that we

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measured before we are going to shift it

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to one side by 38.1 microns the gear

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assembly will now act as a 7.276

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millimeter Hub gear when that side

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reaches the filament

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then when the opposite side gets to the

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filament

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the effective diameter of our extruder

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becomes

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7.124 millimeter

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so a total oscillation of 152 microns

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now we can start to feel the impact of

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this situation in theory if our gear was

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perfectly Centered for every millimeter

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of extruded filament we would get 2.405

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cubic millimeter of plastic

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but because our gear is tricking us we

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will sometimes get more plastic and

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other times we will get less

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when the Hub gear is shifted towards the

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filament The Hub gear will pretend to

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have a diameter of 7.276 millimeter

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therefore being 1.05 percent bigger than

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the perfect 7.2 we had earlier

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and because of that augmentation we are

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not getting the requested 2.405 cubic

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millimeter of plastic anymore

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we are getting 2.43 cubic millimeter

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on the other hand we are only getting

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2.38 cubic millimeter of plastic when

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the Hub gear is shifted at the opposite

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side of the filament and therefore

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pretending to be only 98.94 of the real

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thing

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between the two scenarios we now have a

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total difference of 0.05 cubic

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millimeter of plastic and this is for

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only a length of one millimeter of

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filament extruded okay I give it to you

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we are back with small numbers again but

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bear with me for a moment if we were to

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take that theoretical 2.405 cubic

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millimeter of plastic from our perfect

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gear and shape it into a 0.5 millimeter

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wide by 0.1 millimeter thick layer

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profile it would have to be 48.1

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millimeter long

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where am I going with this

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remember your mom's cake icing bag or

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that silicone caulking gun you used the

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last time redoing the shower seal

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what would happen if you apply that

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icing or caulking at constant speed

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while maintaining a nice and even layer

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thickness but you keep varying the flow

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you guessed right you're not going to

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push yourself into going faster and

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neither will you go higher only that

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nice Extrusion bead is now going to be

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wider I prepared that little 3D model to

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show the difference between the lean

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layers and the over extruded ones from

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our previous example the under extruded

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lines have now a width of 495 microns

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the over extruded ones on the other hand

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have expanded to 505 microns although

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this is only a variation of 10 microns

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we can clearly see on this model the

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impact on the surface quality

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this is an eye-opener for me the

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extruder should be considered as a

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Precision instrument

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we need better components for our direct

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drive race machines

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the level of precision on the quantity

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of material extruded is also directly

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impacted by the manufacturing tolerances

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of your filament if we use the same

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simulation Model A variation of plus or

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minus 0.05 millimeter on the filament

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diameter could mean a layer width

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varying between 0.47 millimeter wide and

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0.53 millimeter this is huge but usually

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this variation will be spread over a

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greater distance of filament but this is

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something to keep in mind look at this

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weird spiral caused by the poor quality

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from the end of a spool that I had in

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stock

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if you wish to up your print quality

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game it is therefore important that you

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choose a filament manufacturer with

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pretty tight tolerances

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the work involved in making this video

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started back in August a lot of work

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material components and time has been

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invested my patrons were able to read a

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weekly report on my findings during this

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journey dear patrons thank you very much

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you are covering a portion of the costs

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involved at producing these kinds of

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research if you two would like to help

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me out and would like to benefit from

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the detailed insights about my

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experiments I invite you to visit my

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patreon page by clicking on the address

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link here Below in the video description

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over and above the support from my

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patrons I also benefit from a huge moral

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support from my good friend VES 3D

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well perhaps he is not the best to

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provide any kind of moral advice with

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his lack of self-discipline but I do

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appreciate our long scientific

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discussions and his large sense of drama

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I like what Simo does with his visibot

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nah seriously man thank you very much

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for allowing me to bounce ideas on you

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and for keeping me focused when I get

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discouraged thank you brother

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understanding the considerable variation

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that such a radial runout would give I

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approached bontech and explained the

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situation earlier this year they've been

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super responsive from the start and we

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then worked on a revised gear assembly

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that would combine the shaft and the Hub

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gear as one single part therefore

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removing chances of having a hub gear

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out of Center

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after a few months of wait I was very

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excited to try these new gears on

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if this works we will be able to

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maintain our tiny direct drive's

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extruders and get much better quality

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with a little over 5 10 of a thou

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yeah oops sorry inches again

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12.7 microns should I say of run out

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these shafts should be much better

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well nothing in life is easy I am

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getting the same artifact once again a

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little less pronounced but it is

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definitely still there

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just like a ton of brick in the forehead

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it hit me

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what about the plastic gear

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oh my God it was such a downer to

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realize that I was focusing on the metal

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gear while the plastic gear was just as

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bad if not much worse

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in some cases reaching up to 152.4

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microns of run out so I had to try

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pressing on my best plastic gear coming

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from the BMG clone unit that I had onto

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that new shaft from bontec

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ah [ __ ] some days are better than others

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that was not the case for today

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I will sleep on it

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while in bed I started to shop around

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for better drive gears could we get some

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machine gears pressed on should I

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completely change my extruder design

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just as I was ready to close my eyes

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this thing appeared physic just released

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a new improved gear

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better Precision apparently seems to be

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a machined plastic gear oh well let's

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order a few

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four weeks have passed and here we are

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the new gears have arrived

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how precise are they

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well they are not perfect but with just

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under 50 microns of run out this is by

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far the best units I've seen let's try

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to press it on the shaft but this time

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around I will preheat the shaft before

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trying to press it in

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foreign

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[Music]

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there it is

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it looks very good and I was able to

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maintain the initial run out tolerances

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intact for both the plastic gear

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and the hot gear

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and now let's print

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so right now I could teach you a few

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swear words in French Canadian

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because let me tell you I've used a lot

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of them so new shaft more precise New

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Gear more precise

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looks a bit better but it is not what

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I'm expecting

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there is definitely something else going

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on there what is that artifact once

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again changing flow of the extruder

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would change the pattern it is

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definitely related to the extruder

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Could It Be The Idler Hub at this point

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even if I don't have any logical theory

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about it let's try to swap it and

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replace the idler Hub gear for a stack

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of plane bearings I may get less

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traction but at this point I could not

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care less

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oh wow it is gone but why what is going

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on why is that artifact gone

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so The Idler gear seems to hold the

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answers to our questions so here's my

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theory

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if the idler gear shaft is slightly

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tilted

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and it wouldn't take much as we've seen

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earlier with very small numbers having

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noticeable impact on the surface quality

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this tilt could apply a force at angle

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on the filament this means that the

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filament could be pushed forward or

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backward and therefore changing its

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position inside the Hub gear Groove

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changing position in the groove would

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also mean changing the effective

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extruding diameter of the Hub gear using

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our cat simulation model we can see how

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much impact can this condition where the

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filament is Walking In the Groove have

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on the print surface

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it can definitely throw things off by a

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much greater margin than our 76 Micron

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Hub gear run out hand look at that

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incredible

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the design of my tiny extrudort could be

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in cause for not maintaining The Idler

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shaft parallel properly to the drive

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gear the limited amount of actual

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backlash on The Idler might not allow

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for a perfect self-alignment of that Hub

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Group

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print accuracy of the extruder body

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could also play a role many factors need

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to be perfectly under control for an

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extruder gear system like the BMG to

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work properly now that I know the source

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of this annoying artifact I can retest

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properly The Hub gear shaft assemblies I

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have in stock using an idler made from

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bearings the first one on the left was

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done with the bontecht original extruder

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gear shaft assembly

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we can clearly observe the Ripple

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artifact from the extrator gear wobbling

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around its axis

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in the middle comes the new shaft

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assembly that I made from the bontec new

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experimental integrated shaft and the

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plastic gear from physet the repetitive

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Rippling is practically gone although a

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few artifacts are still showing up the

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quality is much better

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and on the right I reprinted a tube

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using my Hamera in Bowden mode to

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compare although it is still the best

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tube from the three I think the results

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obtained with my revised direct drive

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configuration is pretty close to what

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Bowden gives we have to remember that

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this observation is being done with the

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light coming from the top and every

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little variation in flow will show up

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either caused by pid heater pulses

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filament homogeneity filament diameter

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nevertheless it is clear to me that the

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more precise your extruder system will

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be the better surface quality you'll get

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I'm currently having discussions with

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montec for a potential solution to be

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offered that would help those of us with

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a compact direct drive extruder based on

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the BMG internals I'll keep you guys

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posted when something is ready

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in summary the last two months have

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thought me a lot in what is going on

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into the extruders they are probably the

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most important part of a 3D printer

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their impact is also Amplified if you're

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using them into a direct drive extruder

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because we're not benefiting from the

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dampening effect of a Bowden tube every

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single little defect or variation will

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directly be translated to your print and

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as explained today it does not take much

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to create visual artifacts

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I hope this video can help you to

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increase your print quality let me know

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in the comment section below what was

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the mod that had the best impact on your

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print quality

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now that you have seen me naked with all

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my defects let's get dressed let's put

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back on this very nice light dress that

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makes us shine under our best angle for

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the photo

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see you soon happy printing

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