Noam Chomsky - Corporate Personhood
Summary
TLDRProfessor Noam Chomsky discusses the concept of corporate personhood, tracing its origins to the 14th Amendment post-Civil War. He criticizes how it has been misapplied to benefit corporations over individuals, especially with the Citizens United ruling that equates money with speech. Chomsky emphasizes the need for public support and education to amend the Constitution and restore its original intent.
Takeaways
- 📜 Corporate personhood is a legal doctrine that has evolved over time, originally intended to protect freed slaves but now often applied to corporations.
- 🏛️ The 14th Amendment was initially designed to protect the rights of individuals, but its interpretation has been expanded to include corporations.
- 🚫 Over the years, courts have restricted the 14th Amendment's protections for certain individuals, such as undocumented immigrants.
- 💸 The Supreme Court case in the 70s equated money with speech, leading to the Citizens United decision that allows corporations to spend unlimited amounts on elections.
- 🗳️ The Citizens United decision has been criticized for undermining democracy by giving corporations more influence over elections than individual citizens.
- 🌐 The concept of corporate personhood has been used to grant corporations rights that surpass those of natural persons.
- 🛑 There is a need for public support and education to build a movement that could lead to a constitutional amendment to redefine corporate personhood.
- 🔄 Historically, conservatives opposed corporate personhood, viewing it as an attack on classical liberal doctrines that prioritize individual rights.
- 🔄 The current political climate, with its shift towards libertarianism, has complicated the debate around corporate personhood and individual rights.
- 🔄 A constitutional amendment to repeal corporate personhood would require significant organizing and educational efforts to gain public support.
Q & A
What is the main issue discussed in the transcript?
-The main issue discussed is the concept of corporate personhood and its implications on democracy and power dynamics, particularly how it has evolved from the 14th Amendment and its impact on modern society.
Why is corporate personhood considered a scandal by Professor Chomsky?
-Professor Chomsky considers corporate personhood a scandal because it originated from the 14th Amendment, which was intended to protect the rights of freed slaves, but was instead applied to corporations, granting them rights beyond those of natural persons.
How did the concept of corporate personhood evolve historically?
-The concept of corporate personhood evolved from the 14th Amendment post-Civil War, which was initially intended to protect the rights of freed slaves but was later applied to corporations by courts and lawyers, without legislative action.
What role did progressives play in the establishment of corporate personhood?
-Progressives strongly supported the establishment of corporate personhood as part of their belief in organic institutions being more important than individuals, which was a shift from classical liberal doctrines.
How does corporate personhood affect international trade agreements like NAFTA?
-Corporate personhood allows corporations to gain rights under trade agreements that natural persons cannot, such as national treatment, which can lead to the destruction of local businesses and increased immigration.
What is the significance of the Supreme Court case from the 70s mentioned by Professor Chomsky?
-The Supreme Court case determined that money is a form of speech, which has led to rulings like Citizens United that corporations cannot have their free speech rights infringed by limiting their campaign contributions.
How does the concept of money as speech undermine democracy according to Professor Chomsky?
-The concept of money as speech allows corporations to spend unlimited amounts to influence elections, which undermines democracy by giving them disproportionate influence over political outcomes.
What is the role of the ACLU in supporting the concept of corporate personhood?
-The ACLU, along with others, supports the concept of corporate personhood and the idea that money is speech, which contributes to the expansion of corporate rights at the expense of natural persons.
What is the current public sentiment towards corporate personhood according to the transcript?
-There is anti-corporate sentiment in the country, but it is unfocused and confused due to the atomized nature of society, which makes it difficult to mobilize support for change.
What does Professor Chomsky suggest as a solution to the issue of corporate personhood?
-Professor Chomsky suggests that a constitutional amendment or legislation could be a solution, but it requires significant public support, which needs to be built through organizing and education.
What was the conservative objection to corporate personhood in the past?
-In the past, conservatives objected to corporate personhood because it was seen as an attack on classical liberal doctrines that held rights should be for natural persons, not collectivist legal entities.
Outlines
📚 Corporate Personhood and Its Impact
In this paragraph, Professor Chomsky discusses the concept of corporate personhood, which he describes as a 'real scandal'. He traces the origin of this concept back to the 14th Amendment post-Civil War, which was intended to protect the rights of freed slaves but was instead applied to corporations. Over time, corporate personhood has been expanded, granting corporations rights beyond those of natural persons. He cites examples like General Motors receiving national treatment in Mexico, which undermines local businesses. Chomsky also touches on how the 14th Amendment has been restricted in ways that exclude undocumented immigrants from rights, highlighting a dual standard. He concludes by discussing the Supreme Court case that equated money with speech, leading to the Citizens United decision, which allows corporations to spend unlimited money in elections, thereby undermining democracy.
🗳️ The Challenge of Constitutional Amendment
In this paragraph, Chomsky addresses the idea of a constitutional amendment to repeal corporate personhood and define persons as natural persons only. He acknowledges the importance of such an amendment but points out the challenge of gaining substantial public support. He suggests that there needs to be significant organizing and educational efforts to build a groundswell of support for restoring the 14th Amendment. Chomsky also reflects on historical opposition to corporate personhood from classical liberals and conservatives, contrasting it with the current lack of focus and confusion among the public. He emphasizes the need for work to build popular support for legislative changes that could challenge the current corporate influence on democracy.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Corporate Personhood
💡14th Amendment
💡Neoliberalism
💡Citizens United
💡Free Trade Agreements
💡National Treatment
💡Public Trust
💡Constitutional Amendment
💡Classical Liberalism
💡Libertarianism
Highlights
Corporate personhood is described as a real scandal, highlighting the expansion of corporate rights beyond those of natural persons.
The 14th Amendment, originally intended to protect freed slaves, was used primarily to benefit corporations.
Corporate personhood was not firmly established by legislation but through court rulings and the influence of lawyers over the years.
Progressives, including figures like Woodrow Wilson, supported corporate personhood, seeing corporations as 'organic institutions' more important than individuals.
Corporations have gained rights far beyond natural persons, as seen in free trade agreements like NAFTA, which grants corporations privileges not extended to individuals.
NAFTA contributed to the destruction of Mexican business and agriculture, leading to increased immigration to the U.S., a situation anticipated by the Clinton administration.
The militarization of the U.S.-Mexico border began in 1994, right after the passage of NAFTA, to manage expected migration due to economic displacement.
Courts have both expanded corporate rights and restricted the rights of natural persons, such as undocumented immigrants who are denied the same protections under the 14th Amendment.
A Supreme Court ruling in the 1970s determined that money is equivalent to speech, further amplifying corporate influence in politics.
The Citizens United decision extended corporate free speech rights, allowing corporations to spend unlimited amounts of money on elections.
Justice Kennedy’s argument in Citizens United compared the free speech rights of corporations like General Electric to those of media corporations like CBS and The New York Times.
The expansion of corporate personhood represents a significant threat to the foundations of democracy by undermining the influence of the electorate in favor of corporate power.
Election costs have skyrocketed due to the influence of corporate spending, which was exacerbated by Citizens United.
A constitutional amendment to repeal corporate personhood would require substantial public support, necessitating widespread organizing and education.
There has been historical opposition to corporate personhood from classical liberals and conservatives, who viewed it as an attack on the doctrine that rights should be inherent in natural persons.
Transcripts
professor chomsky i traveled from
jackson michigan to hear you speak
tonight and it's an honor to be able to
ask you a question
um thank you in uh
chris hedge's book the death of the
liberal class
you're quoting as you're quoted as
saying there's a substantial shift
in global power quoting from the global
workforce to transnational capital
and it's been sharply escalating during
the neoliberal years
my question is how significant do you
think a constitutional amendment to
repeal corporate personhood
to define persons as natural persons
only
would be in slowing down or hopefully
even reversing the shift in power
well you know corporate personhood is a
real
uh scandal a corporate person has it's
an interesting doctrine i mean it
you know it goes back to the 14th
amendment which is
very i'm sorry to bring up too much
history but this stuff is really
enlightening you go back to the 14th
amendment right after the civil war
uh its core principle is that no
person can be deprived of rights
without due process of law actually
there's something like that in the fifth
amendment but this expanded it
and the intention of course was freed
slaves event freed slaves cannot be
deprived of their rights
well it was never applied to freed
slaves
almost entirely it was applied to
corporations
uh they're not to be deprived of their
rights without
due process of law over the years
the concept of corporate personhood
became elaborated
it wasn't really established firmly
until about a century ago
and it was not done by legislation it
was courts and
lawyers and incidentally progressives
were behind it
the progressives strongly supported it
part of their support for
what are called organic institutions
over more important than individuals
uh so woodrow wilson and the rest uh but
uh what it means is that
the the meaning of the 14th amendment
was
expanded so that person included
corporations and over the years
corporations have gotten rights that are
way beyond those of persons of flesh and
blood
so if you go say to clinton's uh free
trading or so-called free trade
agreement with mexico it's nothing to do
with free trade
that's what it's called it grants
corporations rights that human beings
can't even dream of
like for example if general motors
invests in mexico
they have to be given national treatment
meaning treated like a mexican business
that's one of the ways to make sure that
mexican business is destroyed and you
get big
immigration here incidentally the
clinton administration understood that
they knew they were going to wipe out
the agricultural system and business in
mexico and in fact in 1994
when nafta was passed clinton started
militarizing the border
it had been an open border before but
they started militarizing it for obvious
reasons
well that's the expansion of course if a
mexican
human being appears in new york and
demands national treatment
let's talk about it but uh but
corporations have
these are among the rights that go way
beyond
persons at the same time the 14th
amendment was
restricted this concept that no
person can be deprived of rights if you
take it common sense interpretation
it means that an undocumented alien
can't be deprived of rights
well we can't have that so the courts in
their wisdom over the years
have defined person so it doesn't
include uh creatures of flesh and blood
who don't have the right documents
okay so it's both the concepts both been
expanded and restricted
and that proceeds without any complaint
from the
originalists and so on and so forth
well what about something added to that
what was added to that was in a supreme
court case in the
in the 70s which determined that
money is speech okay
so money is a form of speech all of this
stuff is incidentally supported by the
aclu and others i should say this
free speech ad that could support this
but what it means you combine all of
this you get the citizens of united
a year two ago which says that you can't
infringe
on the right of these persons like say
general electric
to speak freely by spending as much
money as they want to buy an election
i mean that's the conclusion it was
quite interesting to read the reasoning
so justice kennedy is the swing vote in
citizens united
his argument was well look we give
other corporations the right of freedom
of speech like cbs or the new york times
so why should we deny it to say general
electric
and citigroup that's an interesting
concept that means
of course the reason why cbs and the new
york times were granted
these rights is because they're supposed
to fulfill a public trust
you know they're supposed to provide
honest objective
informed analysis won't talk about how
it's done but that's the reason why they
get this right
but that's gone you know if kennedy's
swing argument just dismissed that if
they get the right
why shouldn't general electric get it uh
so
here you get a really serious blow at
the foundations of democracy and that's
part of the reason why
election costs are sure already
ridiculous are going
to the sky so what about a
constitutional amendment well
there's a problem with that the
constitutional amendment requires public
support
substantial public support and that
doesn't come by
you know going like that
you got to work on it so there has to be
a lot of
organizing and educational work to build
up a
major groundswell of support which will
call for restoring the 14th amendment to
what the words say
you know i should say that
back a century ago when corporate
personhood was being established by
courts and lawyers there was a lot of
objection to it
and the objection came from
conservatives the term
conservative still exists but not the
category
uh back in those days conservatives
classical liberals
were people who believed in classical
liberal doctrines
uh now people talk about them but they
don't believe in them
and the idea that a corporation should
be given personal rights is a major
attack on
classical liberal doctrines which held
that rights in here in
persons persons of flesh and blood not
collectivist legal entities established
by state power
but nowadays what are called
conservatives have you know shifted
now they're called libertarians i don't
know why it's nothing to do with that
so so there is a conservative objection
to it
and i think there's plenty of
anti-corporate feeling in the country
but it's unfocused it's uh you know
confused
like almost everything in a very
atomized society so yeah a
constitutional amendment would be a
great idea i think
or maybe just legislation but it takes
worked an enormous amount of work to
build up the popular support for it
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