Tien vs Bleach is Totally Unfair!

Summary

The video compares Tien from Dragon Ball Z with characters from the Bleach anime, analyzing their power levels and abilities. It discusses Tien's strength, including his Tri-beam attack, and how it compares to high-tier Bleach characters. The script explores misconceptions about spiritual pressure and the potential outcomes of Tien facing off against the Bleach universe, concluding that Tien's raw power and speed would likely overpower most characters.

Takeaways

• 🌟 Tien is introduced as a powerful threat in Dragon Ball Z, with a power level of 180 during the 22nd Budokai.
• 💥 Tien's Tribeam is confirmed to have greater destructive power than Master Roshi's Kamehameha, capable of at least moon-busting damage.
• 🚀 During the Saiyan Saga, Tien's power level increases to 1,830, making him the second strongest on Earth after Piccolo.
• 🌌 In the anime continuity, Tien's power grows over 20 times stronger, capable of fighting Ginyu Force members with power levels of 40 to 50,000.
• 💪 Tien's Neo Tribeam in Dragon Ball Super is shown to damage Semi-Perfect Cell, outperforming the Androids and Frieza Saga characters.
• 🌀 Tien's speed is incredibly fast, potentially faster than light, and his attacks are powerful enough to reach multiversal levels.
• 🔮 Bleach characters are often spiritual in nature, which might make them intangible to non-spiritual attacks, but Tien's high perception allows him to sense and attack them.
• 🌍 The highest tiers of Bleach characters are not clearly defined in terms of power, with feats ranging from multi-continental to possibly universal.
• 💫 Bleach's speed scaling is inconsistent, with some attacks moving at light speed but no solid multipliers to confirm this across the board.
• 🤔 The video concludes that Tien's raw power, speed, and durability give him a significant advantage over most Bleach characters, even when considering their unique abilities.

Q & A

Who are the main characters compared in the script?

The script compares Krillin versus One Piece, Yamcha versus Naruto, and Tien versus Bleach.

What is the significance of Tien's Tribeam attack?

Tien's Tribeam is significant because it has greater destructive power than Master Roshi's Kamehameha, making it at least a moon-busting attack.

How does Tien's power level change from his introduction to the Saiyan Saga?

Tien's power level increases significantly from his introduction with a power level of 180 to 1,830 during the Saiyan Saga, making him the second strongest person on Earth at that time.

What is the Mafuba technique that Tien learns?

The Mafuba is a powerful sealing technique that Tien learns, which allows him to trap and seal powerful opponents.

How does Tien's power level compare to the Ginyu Force members during the Frieza Saga?

Tien's power level during the Frieza Saga is at least large planetary, if not reaching dwarf star levels, which is significantly stronger than the Ginyu Force members with power levels of 40 to 50,000.

What is the significance of Tien's performance in the Tournament of Power in Dragon Ball Super?

In the Tournament of Power, Tien demonstrates a rapid increase in power, being able to survive attacks from a sniper with strong enough tacks to blow off both of Piccolo's arms and overpower him with the Tribeam.

What misconception about Bleach characters is addressed in the script?

The script addresses the misconception that Bleach characters are invisible and intangible to attacks from other verses due to their spiritual nature.

How does Tien's perception ability help him in combat against Bleach characters?

Tien's high level of perception allows him to sense the spiritual energy radiating off Bleach characters, even if he cannot see them outright, which helps him target them effectively.

What is the primary question to consider when gauging the powers of the high tier of the Bleach verse?

The primary question is how big is Soul Society and what level of power is required to destroy it and the other dimensions it's connected to.

What is the range of attack potency for high-tier Bleach characters?

The attack potency for high-tier Bleach characters ranges from multicontinental to potentially universal, depending on the interpretation of their abilities and feats.

How does Tien's speed compare to characters in the Bleach verse?

Tien's speed is significantly faster than characters in the Bleach verse, with feats suggesting he is faster than light by quadrillions of times.

Outlines

00:00

🌌 Dragon Ball's Tien vs. Bleach Universe

The video script discusses a hypothetical battle between Tien, a character from Dragon Ball Z, and characters from the Bleach universe. It starts by comparing Tien's power level to other characters and noting the difficulty in scaling power in the Bleach universe. Tien is introduced as a formidable opponent with a power level of 180 during the 22nd Budokai, and his signature move, the Tri-beam, is said to have greater destructive power than Master Roshi's Kamehameha, capable of at least moon-busting damage. The script also covers Tien's power progression through the series, including his training and the development of his abilities like the Mafuba technique. It highlights his power level increase to 1,830 during the Saiyan Saga, making him the second strongest on Earth at that time, and his struggle against the much stronger Napa. The script also discusses Tien's growth in power during the Frieza Saga and his ability to fight members of the Ginyu Force, as well as his feats in Dragon Ball Super, where he demonstrates the ability to withstand and overpower powerful attacks with his Multiform technique and Tri-beam.

05:02

🚀 Tien's Power Scaling and Comparison to Bleach Characters

This section of the script delves into Tien's power scaling and compares it to characters from the Bleach universe. It mentions that Tien could be comparable to base form Saans and possibly reach blue level with his Tri-beam, which is a significant power level considering Gohan's ability to fight blue Goku. The script also discusses Tien's speed, which is incredibly fast, possibly faster than light, and his hacking abilities as a Dragon Ball character. It addresses the misconception of spiritual pressure in Bleach, arguing that Tien's high level of perception would allow him to sense and attack spiritual beings. The script then compares the attack power of Bleach characters to Tien's scaling, noting that even high-tier Bleach characters are significantly weaker than Tien. It also explores the scaling of Soul Society and the destruction of dimensions, questioning the true extent of the power of characters like Yamamoto and UA, and how it compares to Tien's capabilities.

10:04

🌪️ Tien's Dominance Over Bleach and Conclusion

The final paragraph of the script concludes that Tien would likely dominate over the Bleach universe. It discusses the speed and attack power of Bleach characters and how they compare to Tien, suggesting that Tien's speed and power would make it difficult for Bleach characters to react or counterattack. The script also addresses the potential use of hacks and abilities by Bleach characters, such as UA's future choice ability and hypnosis, but points out that these require conscious use and perception, which Tien could potentially outpace. It mentions the possibility of characters with immortality like Gerard or Hogyoku Eisen, but suggests that Tien's power could overcome these as well. The script concludes by stating that Tien's raw strength, speed, and power would likely be too much for the Bleach universe, and the video ends with a thank you to viewers and channel members for their support.

Keywords

💡Tien

Tien, also known as Tien Shinhan, is a character from the Dragon Ball series. He is a human martial artist and a member of the Z Fighters. In the script, Tien is described as the strongest human on Earth at one point and is noted for his unique abilities such as the Tri-beam attack. His power level and feats are used to compare his strength against characters from the Bleach universe.

💡Bleach

Bleach is a popular anime and manga series that focuses on the adventures of Ichigo Kurosaki, a teenager with the power to see ghosts who becomes a Soul Reaper. The script discusses the difficulty of comparing the power levels of characters from Bleach to those from Dragon Ball, due to the complex nature of spiritual powers in Bleach.

💡Power Level

Power Level is a term used in the Dragon Ball series to quantify a character's strength or energy output. The script uses power levels to compare Tien's strength to other characters, with his power level given as 180 during the 22nd Budokai and increasing to 1,830 during the Saiyan Saga.

💡Tri-beam

The Tri-beam is a powerful attack used by Tien in the Dragon Ball series. It is described as having greater destructive power than Master Roshi's Kamehameha, capable of at least moon-busting damage. The script uses the Tri-beam as a benchmark for Tien's strength when comparing him to characters from Bleach.

💡Saiyan Saga

The Saiyan Saga is an arc in the Dragon Ball series where Earth is invaded by the Saiyan aliens Vegeta and Nappa. In the script, it is mentioned as a period when Tien's power level significantly increases, making him one of the strongest humans on Earth at that time.

💡Mafuba

Mafuba, also known as the Devil's Banishment Wave, is a sealing technique learned by Tien in Dragon Ball. The script mentions it as a powerful ability that Tien uses to further develop his skills, showcasing his versatility as a fighter.

💡Ginyu Force

The Ginyu Force is a group of elite Saiyan soldiers in the Dragon Ball series. The script refers to Tien's ability to fight against members of the Ginyu Force in the anime continuity, indicating his growth in power over the series.

💡Frieza

Frieza is a major antagonist in the Dragon Ball series, known for his immense power. In the script, Frieza's power level is used as a reference point to show that Tien, despite his growth, still faces challenges against such formidable opponents.

💡Dragon Ball Super

Dragon Ball Super is a sequel series to Dragon Ball Z. The script discusses Tien's role in the Tournament of Power, highlighting his rapid growth in power and his ability to use the Multiform technique and the Tri-beam effectively.

💡Soul Society

Soul Society is the realm where souls go in the Bleach universe. The script explores the difficulty in determining the power levels of characters who can destroy Soul Society, which is central to comparing the strength of Bleach characters to Tien.

💡Spiritual Pressure

Spiritual Pressure in Bleach refers to the aura or presence that Soul Reapers and Hollows emit. The script addresses a misconception that Bleach characters might be immune to attacks from other universes due to their spiritual nature, suggesting that Tien's high level of perception would allow him to sense and combat spiritual beings.

Highlights

Comparison of Krillin versus One Piece and Yamcha versus Naruto, with Tien versus Bleach completing the trilogy.

Bleach's power scaling is more challenging due to the variety of abilities and the impact of hacks.

Tien Shaolin is considered one of the most unique human Z fighters in Dragon Ball Z.

Tien's power level at his introduction is 180, indicating a significant threat.

Tien's Tri-beam is said to have greater destructive power than Master Roshi's Kamehameha.

Tien's power level increases to 1,830 during the Saiyan Saga, making him the second strongest on Earth.

Tien's Tri-beam is ineffective against Napa but is not considered a failure on Tien's part.

In Dragon Ball Super, Tien's power level rapidly grows, showing the ability to fight against the Ginyu Force.

Tien's Neo Tri-beam is able to damage Semi-Perfect Cell, outperforming the Androids and Saans.

Tien's speed is incredibly fast, surpassing light speed by quadrillions of times.

Tien's Neo Tri-beam is no longer life-threatening to him, allowing him to use it without fatigue.

The majority of Bleach characters are outmatched by Tien, even at his early power levels.

Spiritual pressure in Bleach is a misconception; Tien's high perception allows him to sense spiritual energy.

High-tier Bleach characters' power levels are capped far below Tien's.

The size of Soul Society in Bleach is a point of contention, with varying interpretations of its scale.

Yamamoto's 15 million-degree Bonai implies Soul Society is at most a planet-sized entity.

Aizen's ability to destroy the human world and Soul Society is not through direct attack but by disrupting the balance of souls.

Squad Zero's power to shake heaven and earth suggests multi-solar system levels of power.

Bleach's speed scaling is inconsistent, with attacks referred to as spiritual light but no solid multipliers.

Tien's overwhelming strength and speed make him a formidable opponent for Bleach characters.

Aizen's future vision and hypnosis abilities require conscious use and perception to activate.

Characters with immortality in Bleach may not survive attacks much stronger than they are.

Tien's high spiritual pressure could cancel out the powers and abilities of his opponents.

The video concludes that Tien's raw power, speed, and strength would likely overcome Bleach's abilities.

Transcripts

it started with Krillin versus one piece

we then did Yamcha versus Naruto and

today we complete the trilogy with Tien

versus Bleach of the big three I think

it's pretty obvious that the bleach

verse is the most difficult to

concretely power scale in the same way

you can for the others while some

characters are clearly more powerful

than others actual differences in

strength and the impact of the bleach

versus insane hacks makes things a lot

more challenging to concretely quantify

still a verse with such a wide array of

complex hack abilities is a perfect

match for probably the most unique of

the human Z fighters in Dragon Ball Z

Tenn will the army of Soul Reapers

Quincy in a spot be too much for the

triclops or will he be burying the verse

in a square hole let's find out if you

do like this kind of stuff please make

sure to like And subscribe and let's

Jump Right In as is customary at this

point we'll begin with the scaling of

the Dragon Ball character before

comparing him to the verse in the big

three unlike the other human Z Fighters

Tien is introduced as a truly powerful

threat and is the final opponent of the

Ry first appears in being the 22nd

Budokai thankfully guide books directly

tell us that at this point tian's power

level is 180 as we know power levels in

early Dragon Ball are not linear at all

with even small increases multiplying

one's power level multiple times over as

kid Goku's power level increased by a

small percent after training with Corin

but his strength still multiplied

several times over so a power level of

180 does not mean Tien is only a couple

dozen times stronger than Goku was in

the first chapter most importantly for

this version of Tien though we are told

directly that his tribeam has greater

destructive power than even Master

Roshi's Kamehameha at bare minimum this

makes the tribeam a moon busting attack

as it would scale over Roshi's Moon

destroying max power Kamehameha but as a

highball according to the guide book El

manga legendario the Kamehameha at this

point might arguably have already been a

planet destroying technique meaning the

tribeam was even stronger than that of

course ten continues to train throughout

Dragon Ball though he's quickly left in

the Dust by Goku and both Piccolo still

at this time he learns the mafuba a

powerful sealing technique and further

develops his other abilities still

though it's clear that Tien is the

strongest human on earth at this time

entering the San Saga Tien continues to

retain this title after preparing for

the arrival of Napa and Vegeta tien's

power level skyrockets to

1,830 making him the second strongest

person currently on earth besides

Piccolo and technically Gohan when he's

angry of course things don't go too well

for him when he goes up against Napa who

is roughly twice as strong as he is even

his tribeam is ultimately ineffective

against the Sayan though this isn't

really an L on tien's part as even Goku

with a power level of 8,000 thought Napa

was exceedingly durable of course over

the next Arc Tien then spends his entire

time on King Kai's planet and in the

anime continuity of events he grows over

20 times stronger as he's able to fight

against the members of the ginu force

with power levels of 40 to 50,000 now

just to be clear when talking about the

anime version of tenen these Feats are

valid the anime is a completely separate

cannon from the manga and the non-manga

events that occur are completely

approved by Toriyama either way at this

point he would at least be large

planetary if not reaching the dwarf star

levels of power and Beyond of course

once he comes back to life the likes of

Frieza and the Androids are clearly

still too much for Tien to handle as he

gets easily manhandled by them however

once again the tribeam is a different

tier of power entirely anyone who knows

Dragon Ball knows tien's neot tribeam is

able to somewhat damage and outright pin

down semi-perfect cell which is better

than anything the Androids or saans

could do up to this point until Super

Vegeta arrives while Tien does show up

in the bu Saga and participates more

than the other humans it doesn't really

change his scaling all he does is stop a

single keyi Blast from banks that was

meant to kill Hercule and dende with a

second blast making him instantly say

he's useless so his scaling doesn't

change here Tien does not scale too in

any way shape or form moving on to

Dragon Ball super though Tien really

doesn't get any more scaling until the

tournament of power in the leadup to the

tournament Tien is pretty consistently

portrayed as the weakest guy on the team

barely being able to keep up with base

Goku while fighting Gohan however as is

the nature of Dragon Ball super it seems

like TI rapidly grew in power between

this training and the actual top in

episode 106 Universe 7 is fighting this

random sniper guy whose name I don't

remember but whose tacks are strong

enough to blow off both of Piccolo's

arms at once and be a threat to ultimate

Gohan Goku and Vegeta Tien then using

his multiform technique that splits his

power into quarters is able to both

survive shots from this sniper without

any visible damage and also overpower

him with the tribeam I understand how

that seems ridiculous compared to tien's

Performance even a day prior but what

happened happened you can't like this

has happened in Dragon Ball super before

regardless this means at worst that Tien

is comparable to the likes of base form

saans though he could be as high as blue

level at best with the tribeam given

that Gohan was threatened by these same

attacks and Gohan was able to fight blue

Goku so again a Nerf Tien surviving the

same attack is really impressive at the

bare minimum Tien would then be a

universe Buster and attack potency with

the tribeam though at the high end he's

many many multiples of power beyond

Universal and enters into that

multiversal tier by definition this

would put Tenn speed into the bare

minimum insanely high-end faster than

light substantially slower and weaker

characters have Feats of crossing the

universe in incredibly short periods of

time it's really up to you which Feats

you want but we're talking about the

speed on the scale well beyond

quadrillions of times faster than light

there isn't really much to say about

hacks as most of them are pretty

self-evident as a dragon ball character

and any relevant hacks interactions will

be brought up later it's important to

note that the neot tribeam now is not

life-threatening to Tien anymore as he

can pop them without literally any

fatigue in the torment of power that

being said will the champion of the

crane school be enough to handle the

bleach verse let's get into it firstly

just like any anime verse a grand

majority of characters are getting

destroyed by Tien even with just his

Saiyan Saga scaling I don't think anyone

would disagree that aside from the high

tiers a grand majority of people in the

bleach verse are getting folded by Tien

like this

Tri

beam firstly before we get into the

scaling of the high tiers we do need to

cover a primary misconception and that's

spiritual pressure it's argued that

Bleach characters are essentially

invisible and intangible to the attacks

of most characters from other verses due

to the fact that they're spiritual in

nature even within bleach though

characters like Chad before they unlock

any abilities can damage and smack

around Hollows they can't even perceive

with normal physical objects not only do

Dragon Ball characters have higher

levels of perception than Chad at this

point but tien's is especially high in

comparison to the average Z fighter

furthermore one of the main components

of key is literally the spirit and soul

therefore tan would be able to sense the

spiritual energy raiding off the Bleach

characters even if he cannot see them

outright this also means that Tien is

not getting his soul crushed by passive

spiritual pressure as his soul is

relative to his actual attack potency

and power but out of the way let's go to

bleach's attack pocy for this video we

will be focusing on mostly Manga and

Anime content for Bleach as to be honest

the canonicity of the movies is its own

can of worms that I don't have time to

talk about today like I mentioned before

even pretty high tier characters are

capped at levels of power drastically

below Tenn for example the strongest

members of the asata like olora display

Continental to multi-continental feeds

at their high end both from explosions

they generate and statements that they

can destroy massive structures like Los

nochas either way this wouldn't get them

past even Tien in his first appearance

in the manga who again already has Moon

busting scaling at the bare minimum so

ultimately when it comes to scaling

bleach there is really only one question

that matters when it comes to actually

gauging the powers of the high tier of

the verse how big is soul Society who

can actually destroy it and the other

dimensions it's connected to and how are

they destroying it you see in Bleach

it's pretty unclear and definitely

inconsistent what characters are talking

about when they say the word Soul

Society so the question becomes are they

talking about just the giant City are

they talking about the city and the

planet around it or are they talking

about the entire Dimension containing

everything data books imply that the

world of Soul Society is just the ser

and the Ron Kai and nothing else outside

it meaning it is still impressively a

countrysize city however we know for a

fact that things exist outside the city

and not only is it clearly on a planet

with a curvature but it has a sun and

stars in the sky at night however based

on statements we can help narrow this

down for example Yamamoto says his 15

million degree bonai will burn the

entirety of Soul Society this implies to

me that at best soul Society is just the

planet given that 15 million degrees

would not be sufficient in destroying

Stars given that they can exceed 100

million degrees still Yamamoto isn't the

picle of the verse as the likes of UA

the soul King Squad zero blood War eizen

and Ichigo among others should all be

stronger than this problem is that aside

from using higher Feats it's impossible

to quantify how much stronger they

actually are now notoriously UA was

going to destroy the human world fundo

and the Soul Society with his power

after absorbing the soul King again

depending on the size of these

Dimensions this ranges anywhere from

multiplanetary to Universal three times

over giving him the extreme benefit of

the doubt that he's referencing to the

universes that contain each of these

spaces but there is a major issue and

it's that it's very unlikely UA is doing

this through his own direct AP you see

the main job of the Soul King is to keep

a balance of souls between the human

world and soul Society we told

repeatedly that undoing this balance

will destroy both universes entirely we

know this balance can be disrupted

pretty easily as just Quincy's existing

and eradicating souls instead in letting

them pass on was nearly enough to cause

this to happen so when UA absorbs the

power of the guy who's keeping that

balance seems pretty clear that he

wasn't just going to one-hot any of

these Realms with a blast of energy or

something and instead just let them

collapse in on each other so being

unable to use that feat for a highend

there are statements in the anime for

Squad zero being able to shake heaven

and earth of the three universes with

their power this would grant them multi-

solar system levels of power as shaking

something requires far less energy than

destroying it to be absolutely Fair

though what we see from the fee is just

the planet Earth and the Soul Society

City being shaken rather than the entire

universe or hco mudo at all so for AP

bleach sits between multicon to

planetary with high-end interpretations

of multi- solar system to an extreme

high end of universal speed the is weird

there are a bunch of attacks and bleach

referred to as spiritual light but

proving this works as the same as real

life or moves at the same speed is

essentially impossible it's even

established they can move at different

speeds so it becomes entirely arbitrary

to assign one of these attacks as being

the first one that's actually light

speed furthermore bleach doesn't

actually have any solid multipliers to

scale speed that way bonai are not like

superian forms that multiply all stats

in the same way every time as it simply

increases the vague term of combat

ability by 5 to 10 times we see this

fully when ichigo's bonai really only

increases his speed still there are Cals

getting characters to a couple dozen

times faster than light with anyone

stronger being just

unquantified above most scales for the

bleach firste even if attack potency is

similar Tien is embarrassingly faster

than everyone in the verse if we take

highend interpretations of bleach the

main problem is that most characters

don't scale to that level of power and

granting Tien the same benefit of Doubt

means once again drastically outscaling

anything bleach has ever done again

second form freie a universal statement

understanding that Tien is so much

stronger and faster means that bleach is

in a really tough spot even with the

versus hacks everyone there is pretty

much instantly getting blasted with an

attack before they can react that splits

them apart by their very atoms spiritual

or otherwise while UA's ability to

choose between futures or is and

hypnosis are both very powerful

abilities both of them require conscious

use and perception to activate we see

very clearly that UA is not always

looking into the future at all times and

clearly does not see every possibility

play out so to say he can choose

timelines where he somehow survives

getting killed by Tien requires him to

actually be able to react to Tien which

he pretty much can't do now there are

some characters in Bleach who arguably

have degrees of immortality like Gerard

or hogyoku Eisen ignoring the fact that

they've never survived or adapted to

attacks practically infinitely stronger

than they are worse comes to worse tan

has the mafuba and given that they are

drastically weaker than him he would

have no issue putting them inside of a

rice cooker also for the sake of

argument and assuming that a character

can land a hit on tenen because for some

reason he lets them there's a solid

chance that it doesn't even work on him

at all because he's too powerful it's

clearly established that having a high

enough spiritual pressure outright

cancels out the powers and abilities of

your opponent and the same thing

essentially Happ happens in Dragon Ball

as well it's likely that if anyone swung

on Tien their sword would have just be

stopped by his barrier of key and not

even reach his body as we've established

that both his physical and spiritual

power are linked so yeah call me bias to

Dragon Ball if you want but Tien slams

as dumb as it sounds being big strong

and fast is going to beat hack abilities

99% of the time that being said though

please no one ask me to do something

like yajirobe versus JoJo next made it

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