Fmr. MI6 Agent REVEALS: Netanyahu's DESTRUCTIVE Plans. Ukraine's Last Desperate Moves

The Strategist
21 Sept 202421:29

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses the potential dismissal of Israel's defense minister and the ramifications of Israel's security strategy. Prime Minister Netanyahu is contemplating military action against Hezbollah, which could shift defense leadership. Factors like political tensions, the urgency of military deadlines due to weather, and the prospect of further conflicts with Gaza and Lebanon are highlighted. The transcript also touches on international reactions, including skepticism from the U.S., and outlines Israel's broader ambitions in Gaza and the West Bank. It concludes with reflections on Netanyahu's leadership and the radical goals of some factions in his government.

Takeaways

  • ⚔️ Netanyahu is considering sacking Defense Minister Galant and replacing him with either Gideon Sa'ar or Israel Katz, due to disagreements over military actions against Hezbollah.
  • 📅 A critical factor influencing Israeli military decisions is the weather, as the Israeli Air Force cannot operate effectively in bad weather, limiting potential action to the next 2-3 weeks.
  • 🇱🇧 Gideon Sa'ar has stated that he would only join the cabinet if there is a military attack on Lebanon, believing that countries attacking Israel should lose territory.
  • 💥 Galant has opposed military action against Hezbollah, causing tension within the Israeli cabinet as Netanyahu pushes for a more aggressive approach.
  • 💣 Both Gideon Sa'ar and Israel Katz support military action against Hezbollah, further escalating the potential for conflict in Lebanon.
  • 🕊️ There is a growing recognition in Israel and the U.S. that no significant deal with Gaza or Hezbollah is likely to materialize in the near future.
  • 🌍 International confusion surrounds Netanyahu’s strategy, with U.S. officials reportedly bewildered by Israel’s ongoing conflicts with Hamas and Lebanon.
  • 🏠 Netanyahu’s government sees annexation of parts of Gaza and the West Bank as a strategic victory, advancing the radical agenda of expanding Israeli territory.
  • 💬 European intelligence has reported that a Hezbollah attack on an Israeli base resulted in casualties, contradicting early reports of no damage.
  • ⏳ Netanyahu faces political deadlines, including his return to court over corruption charges in December, which may impact the longevity of his government.

Q & A

  • What is the primary topic discussed in the security cabinet meeting mentioned in the script?

    -The primary topic discussed in the security cabinet meeting is the potential replacement of the defense minister, Gantz, by Netanyahu, as well as the possibility of a military attack on Lebanon. Netanyahu is considering either Gideon Sa'ar or the current foreign minister, Israel Katz, as potential replacements for Gantz.

  • Why is Netanyahu considering sacking Defense Minister Gantz?

    -Netanyahu is considering sacking Defense Minister Gantz because Gantz has been opposing a potential military action against Hezbollah in Lebanon, which Netanyahu and others in his cabinet are pushing for. This opposition is seen as a hindrance to Netanyahu’s plans.

  • What condition has Gideon Sa'ar set for joining the cabinet as defense minister?

    -Gideon Sa'ar has stated that he would only join the cabinet as defense minister if there is a military attack on Lebanon. He believes that anyone attacking Israel must lose territory, which reflects his stance on taking a strong military approach.

  • What are the potential ramifications of removing Defense Minister Gantz?

    -The removal of Defense Minister Gantz could have both political and popular ramifications. Gantz is seen as an advocate for the release of hostages, and his removal may cause disquiet among the public. Additionally, it could influence the military's stance, as Gantz has been a key figure opposing an immediate attack on Hezbollah.

  • Why is the timing of a potential military action against Hezbollah limited?

    -The timing for a potential military action against Hezbollah is limited by weather conditions. The Israeli Air Force cannot conduct close support operations in Lebanon during bad weather, and winter is approaching. This means any action would need to take place within the next two or three weeks before weather conditions worsen.

  • What is the general perception in Washington regarding Netanyahu’s actions?

    -There is bemusement in Washington regarding Netanyahu's actions, with confusion over why he is engaging in what are seen as ‘pointless wars’ against Hamas and Lebanon. They do not understand why Netanyahu does not offer a political solution to the Palestinians and are puzzled by his strategy.

  • What is the view of the radical faction within Netanyahu’s government regarding territorial gains?

    -The radical faction within Netanyahu's government sees the current situation as a victory, as they believe they are advancing their goal of expanding Israeli territory. They aim to annex parts of Gaza and the West Bank and believe that their tactics will lead to the expansion of Israel without relinquishing any territory.

  • What challenges is the Palestinian Authority facing in the West Bank?

    -The Palestinian Authority is facing severe financial and administrative challenges in the West Bank. There is a significant economic squeeze on Palestinians, with restrictions on work in Israel, and efforts to bankrupt the Palestinian Authority. This is creating tensions and could lead to an explosion of unrest or increased emigration.

  • What is the significance of the potential action against Hezbollah for Netanyahu’s government?

    -A potential action against Hezbollah is seen as a decisive move for Netanyahu’s government. Success in such an action could strengthen Netanyahu’s position and prolong his government's tenure, especially as he faces legal challenges related to corruption in the coming months.

  • How does the international community perceive Netanyahu's actions, according to Amos Yadlin?

    -According to Amos Yadlin, a former head of Israeli intelligence assessments, the international community, particularly in Washington, is bewildered by Netanyahu’s actions. They do not understand the purpose of the ongoing conflicts and are concerned that Netanyahu’s government is not offering any political horizon to the Palestinians, which could help in de-escalating the situation.

Outlines

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⚖️ Political Ramifications and Possible Ministerial Changes

This paragraph discusses the potential sacking of Defense Minister Gant by Prime Minister Netanyahu, considering replacing him with either Gideon Sa or Foreign Minister Katz. It highlights ongoing discussions surrounding a military attack on Lebanon, which Gideon Sa supports, insisting on territorial losses for any attacker of Israel. The paragraph also touches on internal military opposition, concerns about overstretched forces, and the broader recognition that diplomatic deals with Gaza or Hezbollah are unlikely.

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🗺️ Failed Diplomacy and Regional Impasse

This section focuses on diplomatic failures involving Hezbollah and Lebanon. U.S. efforts, led by Amos Hin, have not succeeded in resolving the conflict, as Hezbollah remains entrenched in southern Lebanon. The French, too, are seen more as vying for leverage with Israel than finding a real solution. A recent missile strike, possibly hypersonic, evaded Israeli defense systems and raised concerns, as Israeli press reports reveal conflicting details about the attack’s effectiveness. Escalations from Yemen and Hezbollah are also addressed.

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🔥 Escalating Conflict and Political Confusion

The third paragraph examines the confusion in Washington regarding Netanyahu's military strategies, particularly with seemingly aimless conflicts against Hamas and Lebanon. U.S. officials reportedly do not understand why Netanyahu isn't offering a political horizon, such as a two-state solution, to avoid continuous wars. On the other hand, some Israeli factions, seeking to annex parts of Gaza and push Palestinians south, see these military operations as strategic victories. Meanwhile, tensions escalate in the West Bank, with the Palestinian Authority facing economic and political collapse.

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🌧️ Weather and Political Timelines: Constraints on Israeli Action

This section analyzes looming deadlines for Israeli military action, with weather conditions and Netanyahu's upcoming court case influencing decisions. Israel may have a limited window to act militarily in Lebanon due to adverse weather in winter. If Netanyahu can replace Defense Minister Galant, his government’s lifespan might extend. The paragraph also references a broader ideological push by certain Israeli groups aiming for territorial expansion and their sense of urgency.

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💼 International Repercussions and the Role of NATO

This final paragraph delves into international responses, focusing on how Ukraine's war has drained NATO resources. Some in Washington are questioning NATO's effectiveness and relevance. Putin's remarks about Ukraine's diminishing military capabilities are noted, suggesting the war may soon favor Russia. The paragraph also reflects on the ideological alignment in Europe regarding Ukraine, with voices warning about the consequences of dissenting from the pro-Ukraine stance. The narrative underscores growing disillusionment with the conflict's progress and cost.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Netanyahu

Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, plays a central role in the security cabinet meeting. He is contemplating significant military and political actions, including the dismissal of Defense Minister Galant and potential military attacks on Lebanon. Netanyahu’s decisions are crucial to the ongoing conflicts with Gaza, Hezbollah, and broader regional security concerns.

💡Galant

Yoav Galant is the Israeli Defense Minister whom Netanyahu is considering dismissing. Galant has opposed military action against Hezbollah, which contrasts with the more aggressive positions of others in the Israeli cabinet. His removal could have political and military consequences, especially regarding the release of hostages and Israel's broader military strategy.

💡Hezbollah

Hezbollah is a Lebanon-based militant group that poses a significant threat to Israel. The Israeli government is debating whether to launch a military strike against Hezbollah to neutralize this threat. The group’s recent attacks, such as drone strikes, have raised tensions, and military action against it is seen as necessary by some within the Israeli government.

💡Gaza

Gaza is a focal point of Israel's military operations, with Netanyahu’s government engaging in conflict with Hamas. However, it is widely understood that a diplomatic deal in Gaza is unlikely, leading the Israeli leadership to consider military alternatives. Hostage situations and military engagements in Gaza are contributing to the broader tensions in the region.

💡Gideon Sa'ar

Gideon Sa'ar is a political figure who has been considered for the position of Defense Minister, replacing Galant. Sa'ar has stated that his condition for joining the cabinet is a military attack on Lebanon, reflecting his hardline stance. His involvement would signal a more aggressive Israeli military posture, particularly towards Hezbollah.

💡Hostages

The issue of hostages, particularly those held in Gaza, is a significant aspect of the debate within the Israeli government. Galant has been seen as an advocate for their release, and his potential dismissal could shift the government's focus away from diplomatic solutions toward more aggressive military actions.

💡Lebanon

Lebanon, specifically southern Lebanon, is the potential target of Israeli military action due to the presence of Hezbollah. The weather and seasonal changes are also critical factors in the timing of any potential strikes, as the Israeli Air Force cannot conduct close support operations in bad weather.

💡Amos Yadlin

Amos Yadlin, a former head of Israeli intelligence, provides critical insights into the views from Washington regarding Netanyahu’s actions. His reports highlight confusion in the U.S. over why Israel continues to engage in what are seen as attritional wars against Hamas and Hezbollah without a clear political resolution, such as a two-state solution.

💡Jabotinsky

Jabotinsky refers to the ideological faction within Israel that advocates for an expanded Israeli state, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, without Palestinian presence. This radical view is motivating certain segments of Netanyahu’s government, influencing their aggressive military and territorial strategies, particularly in Gaza and the West Bank.

💡West Bank

The West Bank is another area of Israeli focus, where increased pressure is being placed on Palestinians by Israeli settlers and the government. Smotrich, an Israeli politician, is administering economic policies that squeeze the Palestinian Authority and its people, contributing to the broader strategy of territorial expansion and weakening Palestinian presence.

Highlights

Netanyahu plans to sack defense minister Gant and replace him with Gideon Sa or foreign minister Katz.

Gideon Sa is willing to join the cabinet only if Israel conducts a military attack on Lebanon.

Netanyahu has expressed interest in attacking Hezbollah, but Galant has opposed it.

There is a growing understanding in both Israeli and American circles that a deal in Gaza is unlikely to happen.

Israel's military is worried about overstretching its resources if it engages in a conflict with Hezbollah.

The Israeli Air Force would not be able to operate in Lebanon in bad weather, giving a two-to-three-week window for potential action.

Gideon Sa emphasized that any entity attacking Israel should lose territory as a price.

Israel faces internal political pressure, with growing unrest about the release of hostages in Gaza.

The French government is seen as trying to gain leverage with Israel rather than seeking a real solution to the conflict.

Yemen launched a hypersonic missile that evaded Israeli defense systems, causing an escalation in tensions.

A Hezbollah drone attack on an Israeli intelligence base in Tel Aviv resulted in significant casualties, undermining Israeli defense capabilities.

Washington is bewildered by Netanyahu's multiple ongoing wars, questioning their purpose.

Netanyahu's government is pushing for a new expulsion of Palestinians, aiming to annex the northern part of Gaza.

The radical right-wing Israeli factions see this annexation of Gaza as a major victory, believing they are expanding territory.

Pressure is mounting on the Palestinian Authority, especially in the West Bank, due to Israel’s economic and administrative policies.

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security cabinet meeting a cabinet

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meeting taking place really I think

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still as we're speaking and at the

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cabinet meeting uh Netanyahu has made

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plain in advance of the meeting uh and

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it is reflected across the um Hebrew

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press anyway that um he plans or he's

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thinking uh of sacking the defense

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minister uh Gant and replacing him

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either with Gideon sa who this

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discussions been taking place with

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Gideon s to come in as defense minister

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or possibly even the foreign minister

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cats um but that is ongoing at the

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moment uh and there are ramifications

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from it because Gideon s has own

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said um to journalists um but reflecting

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his talks with the Prime Minister that

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he'll only join the cabinet uh provided

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there is an attack on Lebanon a military

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attack and he said and he explained that

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in saying anyone that attacks Israel

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must lose territory that is the price to

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pay um and Katz also is in favor of an

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attack netan who's for some time been

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saying he wants to move against um he

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wants to move against Hezbollah but that

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Galant has been opposing it um and it's

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um blocking trying to block um the

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military from taking the necessary

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action I think first of all um the

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ramifications of removing Galant um

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there would be um political I mean uh

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popular that is sort of ground disire

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about it because he's seen as an

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advocate for the re release of hostages

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but now I think widely understood across

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I mean the Israeli establishment as well

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as the American establishment um that a

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Gaza deal is just not going to happen uh

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I think it's widely understood now um

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that a deal on Hezbollah a Lebanon deal

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by uh Amos hin is not going to happen

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both of this is now being sort of uh

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understood and assimilated and so I

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think that um uh from that although

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there will be some disqui about the host

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ages and and even today there's news

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that more hostages were killed um in in

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in Gaza um that it is becoming much more

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broadly accepted amongst the Army who

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have been opposed because they're

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overstretched and they worry about being

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overstretched and they're worried about

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going to war in Hezbollah whether they

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will be able to manage this um but it's

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becoming accepted that really um what

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are the Alternatives Israel doesn't have

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many Alternatives either a deal in Gaza

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that will bring qu and maybe bring qu to

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the to the southern Lebanon or or else

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they have to take uh action against

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Hezbollah and if you like destroy the

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the threat and then return um if you

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like people uh to the north so this is

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really the the the the situation there's

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another thing that I think I should

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mention because it's important there are

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a number of deadlines around that face

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Netanyahu um but one of those deadlines

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that is a general one is the weather um

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the Israeli Air Force cannot do close

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support operations in uh Lebanon um in

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bad weather so we have about 2 or three

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weeks until the weather turns and winter

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begins a and then Israel will not go to

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war uh against uh Lebanon in December or

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even November it's just but certainly is

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not possible so if action doesn't take

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place in this next two or three weeks

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which we have to wait and see what is

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decided at this cabinet meeting but if

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uh action does not take place then they

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will have to wait till next year uh in

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order to take some sort of action that

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might hope to return um the displaced

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residents to their homes quite a long

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quite a long period uh I think in some

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ways uh emmer Hawkin has actually played

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it in the sense that um he's acted on

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behalf of Israel in these negotiations

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not on behalf of the United States

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incidentally he's removed himself from

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state department at the outset and most

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of the state department experts in the

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were removed and he he's a oneman band

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operating out of the White House with a

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secretary and that is about all uh and

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he hasn't really there's no real

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correspondence with the um at all with

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the French who are acting there but the

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French are reallyi again trying to gain

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leverage with Israel more than they're

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trying to find a solution um but he's

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not succeeded at allus hin has not got

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any sort of solution

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uh to the question indeed I don't think

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there is a solution in the terms in

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which he's looking for one uh it's

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inconceivable that uh Hezbollah would

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remove themselves from the the South

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they've been there 500 years they're not

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going to suddenly disappear to the north

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of the lon so no he has not he has not

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produced and that I think is now

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understood and I think uh equally um

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it's understood uh whatever they may be

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saying in sort of optimistic terms that

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there is no deal coming from uh if you

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like in Gaza that would change uh the

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situation dramatically so what is the

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way out I mean you know the attrition

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continues uh we had only over this

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weekend last night the yenes were firing

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a missile uh which they said um was a

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Hypersonic missile I don't know whether

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it was Hypersonic or whether it was new

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technology there's no certainty of what

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it was was um but now um it evaded andom

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it evaded um the Israeli defense systems

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and landed at an

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unmentioned or an undescribed location

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close to borian airport and the airport

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was shut uh for a period the Israeli

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press initially the Israeli press came

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out and said um oh well it had landed an

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empty uh empty field and there was no

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problem now the Israeli press are saying

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it hit the target as intended and evaded

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all of the Israeli defense systems much

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as you remember you remember I was on

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the program and we were talking about

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hezbollah's attack on guot base um This

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was um their response to the killing of

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wukar in in bout the

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assassination H and uh initially it was

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said there was first of all all

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censorship imposed and said there was no

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no effect nothing was happened they

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there was no

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destruction now European intelligence

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service have been reporting um to their

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context quite widely and it's been

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confirmed by others that in fact in giot

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in that

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8200 um base in the uh mosad base just

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near herzelia um in Tel Aviv um that

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there were 22 kills and 74 injured with

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the attack drones that were fired by his

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buah and more details are supposed to be

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uh coming out shortly so I mean there is

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a a real sense and there's have

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been much uh talk in in in Israel at the

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moment and saying you know the we can't

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allow this to stand um Yemen is a

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declared war on us we it's attack

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attacked us in in a vital area and we

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had no defense to it or the defenses did

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not work and so they have two major sort

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of um escalations taking place uh at the

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same time it's been very interesting

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we've had a a report back from a very

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credible Israeli he was the head of

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intelligence assessments Amos yadlin a

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very a professional not a political

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person at all and he been doing the runs

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in Washington

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and he said you know the the in

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Washington and he's speaking generally

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doesn't name names in it but it's very

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detailed and that was put out on channel

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12 and he said um uh in Washington

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there's complete um uh bemusement what

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is Netanyahu doing why are we having all

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of these wars why are we having these

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wars taking place these sort of um

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pointless Wars um attritional Wars

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against Hamas and against Lebanon and we

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don't understand what is the point and

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we don't understand why Netanyahu just

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doesn't give a

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political Horizon to the Palestinians I

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either the two- State solution and they

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see him uh as pursuing it and they

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suggest everything was wait on the

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elections nothing must be done to harm

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um the candidates prospects in this

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election that's coming up in the United

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States um but after that Netanyahu be

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told stop the wars stop the wars um I I

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don't think they have any understanding

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of something that I just you know just

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want to say very briefly that from the

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prospects of from the perspective of of

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the right of if you like this um of the

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group that is Seeking a new nakba in um

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that is a new expulsion of the

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Palestinians from their perspective

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they're winning I know that sounds like

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double dutch to many people listening

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sure but they think they are going to be

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able to um take back the um northern end

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of

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Gaza exclude the Palestinians move them

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South starve out the ones that are North

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Annex the north of Gaza the northern

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portion of Gaza Annex it and then put

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settlers into it and for them this is

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huge Victory because For the First Time

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in 50 years Israel will be adding

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territory and not relinquishing it now I

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know it means nothing to people um in

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the United States but in terms of the

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thinking and understanding of this what

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I call the radical

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jabotinsky people who are looking for a

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state from the from the river to the sea

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with no um Palestinians in it um this is

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a huge Victory to be again as I said to

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you Gideon sa just said you know every

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state must lose territory but this is

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Israel thinking and at the same time

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there's been little understanding of how

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far they are advancing the project in

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West Bank not so much and you see people

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disappearing and leaving and going off

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to the West Bank yet

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but a huge squeeze is being imposed they

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are going to bankrupt the Palestinian

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Authority they are putting a squeeze on

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all Palestinians who can't normally work

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in in Israel and are getting very little

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income at all uh and more importantly

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schri who is if you like

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administers um uh the West Bank um in a

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different way as uh both Finance

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Minister and is also he has a deputy he

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Deputy defense minister um The Squeeze

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is on in the West Bank and we will start

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to see either an explosion there or

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people starting to leave with the

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settlers putting them under pressure uh

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in the north so from the perspective of

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Netanyahu and part of his

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cabinet this is a winning hand and

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what's more they feel you know this is

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our l chance at it we're really going to

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be able to you know create the land of

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Israel W with our tactics but we have to

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deal with Hezbollah and that's on the

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agenda too and as I say there are

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certain deadlines coming up one of them

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is the weather will deteriorate soon in

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Autumn the other is by um December um

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Netanyahu will go before the courts

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again his his his process will return to

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the courts um if you recall it's a

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corruption process a legal process that

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been suspended um but that will come

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before the course if he's able to get

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rid of Galant point it then probably the

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the government's life will

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be the government's life will be

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extended and will will will continue so

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um you know these are the uh the

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unstated and it's not seemingly under

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stood in in in the reports coming back

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from Amos yadlin um who's as I say a

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former head of intelligence of isra and

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he says this is how they see it he

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doesn't comment on it he just says this

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is how they see it they're beused

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they're bewildered what's Netanyahu

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playing at they do not understand the

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sort of

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eschatological if you like the the

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radical element of those who want to

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pursue um a a jabotinsky outcome uh in

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uh in in Israel and to restore the land

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of Israel um they just see it as a

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pointless attrition why is he fighting

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these wars I mean why doesn't he just

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give the

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Palestinians some sort of some sort of

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horizon for um uh for peace um well no

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one in Israel is prepared to give the

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Palestinians a State and in fact smrd

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unseen by most of us but in stealth in

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the last 20 months has been

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extinguishing it legally it's no longer

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occupied territory under the legal form

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it has become if you like a part of the

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administration his administration which

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he administers through the police and

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the security forces I think there are

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two halves to that I think uh vladis

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bosto

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um uh President Putin made it very clear

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that he said he said in very confident

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and clear statement uh that the

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Ukrainian armed forces are almost at the

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point of being combat incapable they can

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no longer sustain combat um as a as an

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entity as a military force that they're

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near incapable of maintaining combat the

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Ukrainian Armed Forces as a whole and he

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says which was the whole

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purpose and I think that implies that he

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believes that um with the the fall of

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this crucial Hub um pesque which is just

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seemingly uh a being surrounded from the

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south and probably there will be a

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strike soon um that uh there will be the

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collapse of the capability to maintain

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Army and although it won't happen

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immediately and no doubt there will be

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efforts to sustain it through to the

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American election although that is true

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um at the same time ultimately um the

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political structures in KF the political

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apparatus will start unraveling because

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they are based they are levered simply

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on the capability to provide combat

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against Russia they have no political

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legitimacy indeed they have no

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constitutional legitimacy as things

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stand so I I expect that du Co I I

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should imagine President Putin um would

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see it in the same way that that will

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unravel and at that point that it

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unravels that uh there will be uh the

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prospect of coming of a new team coming

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into KF and that it will be

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possible I don't think Moscow will need

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an intermediate

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even for that I mean it will be just a

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straightforward discussion this is the

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last desperate play he's got if his army

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is going to soon going to be incapable

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of sustaining combat the only thing he

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can hope for um is that the West will

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take the bait and um agree to fire

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longer range sto Storm Shadow by the way

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is not longer long longer range the

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attacks is about 300 km but the Storm

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Shadow is only about 150 so it won't be

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a big change with Storm Shadow but it's

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not the point the point that um Putin is

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objecting to is the is the prospect that

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as a matter of policy the West is ready

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to see weapons fired throughout the

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extent of if you like uh 1914 Russia

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that it is accepting that and for him as

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he made very here in his statement that

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is a declaration of war and there will

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be consequences and I think his very

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clear and precise statement will have

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unnerved many uh Britain and America I'm

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not sure about Britain but certainly the

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US is is looking very carefully uh at at

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what he said because he was very clear

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and said this is a red line quite a lot

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of the other red lines were red lines

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that were invented by the west and said

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ah you see he doesn't stick with his red

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lines they weren't ever enunciated by

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Russia they were enunciated by the West

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saying imputing a red line when

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sometimes they didn't exist not a

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benefit but an absolute drain on NATO

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just as it's been all this time it's

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emptied uh NATO of most of its weapons

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of its shells of its missiles and air

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defenses all have been destroyed so it's

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an absolute drain on NATO and it's not

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surprising that um there are voices in

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in Washington that are questioning you

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know the cost benefit of NATO I mean is

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NATO really I mean Trump said it maybe

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we can just do without NATO and you know

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the Europeans can deal with Russia as

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they choose I mean maybe that's a you

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know where where we're going and that's

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the direction of of traveling and I

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think I mean what we're seeing with um

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Boris Johnson making statements like

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this is is is really again what I say is

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you know this is the attempt to keep the

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sort of ideological alignment across

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Europe and across everyone must pay a

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bance to support for Ukraine or be

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described as an extremist or a purveyor

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of disinformation and therefore should

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be uh you know worry about their job in

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their future because if you're regarded

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uh as a supplier of disinformation then

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sanctions will be brought against you

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and perhaps your employer will no one

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longer wish to employ you or your bank

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provide Financial Services to this is I

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mean this is really the the land we're

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in where we're being obliged to pretend

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something that is just evidently not

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true that Ukraine can win that Ukraine

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is a benefit to Nato um that we need to

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support Ukraine that Ukraine is

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naturally part of Europe it's not

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naturally part of Europe even the West

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apart from a few parts of it are slav

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just like Russians are slav um and they

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speak a dialect of Russian it's not

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something the the claim that they

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somehow descend from the Vikings um and

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that they speak a special sort of

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ancient language has been debunked uh

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long ago they're all of the same stalk

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it's a sort of Civil War it is not

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actually a a war of the r say

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