The Uber worker status / gig economy decision explained - by the barrister for the lead Claimants

Daniel Barnett, Barrister
21 Feb 202105:34

Summary

TLDRThe UK Supreme Court recently ruled that Uber drivers are classified as 'workers' rather than self-employed, impacting their rights to minimum wage and holiday pay. This landmark decision sets a precedent for future employment tribunal cases. Jason Galbraith Martin, QC, who represented the drivers, highlights the implications for Uber's business model, including potential cost increases. He also discusses the complexities of drivers working for multiple gig economy platforms simultaneously. The case was supported by a dedicated legal team working pro bono, emphasizing the significance of the issue for gig workers' rights.

Takeaways

  • ⚖️ The Supreme Court of the UK ruled that Uber drivers are classified as workers, not self-employed contractors.
  • 🚗 This decision benefits the claimants in the case, but it sets a precedent that could apply to other Uber drivers.
  • 📉 Uber's business model may be impacted as they could have to pay drivers minimum wage and provide additional rights, potentially affecting profits or increasing consumer prices.
  • 📅 Uber argues that the ruling only applies to a small group of drivers from 2016, but other drivers with similar claims are likely to receive the same outcome.
  • 💼 The decision impacts drivers' rights to claims such as holiday pay and national minimum wage.
  • 🤑 Uber's share price dropped by a significant amount following the judgment, reflecting concerns about its financial impact.
  • 🔄 There is uncertainty regarding whether Uber will automatically apply the ruling to all drivers or wait for more legal action.
  • 📲 The issue of multi-app drivers, those working for several gig economy companies at once, was not fully resolved by the court but may need addressing in future cases.
  • 🤝 A large legal team, working pro bono, successfully represented the drivers in this case due to the belief in the principle being argued.
  • 🛡️ The lead claimants showed courage by bringing the case forward, setting a precedent that may benefit many other drivers in the gig economy.

Q & A

  • What was the central issue in the Uber case decided by the UK Supreme Court?

    -The central issue was whether Uber drivers should be classified as workers or self-employed contractors. The court ruled that Uber drivers are workers, not self-employed individuals.

  • How does the Supreme Court's decision benefit Uber drivers?

    -The decision benefits Uber drivers by classifying them as workers, which grants them employment rights like minimum wage, holiday pay, and protection under working time regulations. While the ruling directly affects the drivers involved in the case, it sets a precedent for other Uber drivers to make similar claims.

  • What was Uber's official response to the Supreme Court's ruling?

    -Uber's official response was that the ruling only applies to a small group of drivers from 2016. However, the barrister in the case, Jason Galbraith Martin, emphasized that the ruling will affect other Uber drivers bringing similar claims.

  • How might the ruling impact Uber's business model?

    -The ruling could lead to increased costs for Uber as it will have to comply with minimum wage laws and other worker protections. This could affect its profits, and Uber may have to pass these costs on to consumers to maintain its competitive pricing.

  • What is the significance of the precedent set by the Supreme Court in the Uber case?

    -The precedent means that other employment tribunals will be bound by the Supreme Court’s decision. This means that any Uber driver who brings a similar claim will likely receive the same outcome as the claimants in this case.

  • What is the issue of ‘multi-apping,’ and how does it relate to the case?

    -‘Multi-apping’ refers to drivers using multiple gig economy apps simultaneously (e.g., Uber, Addison Lee, Deliveroo). Although this issue wasn't fully resolved by the court, Jason Galbraith Martin suggested that drivers could work for multiple companies without a problem, similar to holding multiple jobs.

  • Why did the legal team work pro bono on the case?

    -The legal team, including Jason Galbraith Martin and junior counsel, worked pro bono because they believed in the principle of establishing the drivers' rights as workers. They wanted to ensure that the drivers had access to justice regardless of financial barriers.

  • What challenges do drivers face when bringing claims against companies like Uber?

    -Drivers face challenges such as the complexity of the law, the perceived expense of legal action, and fear of potential consequences if they lead a claim. These factors often discourage individuals from coming forward.

  • What was the impact of the Supreme Court’s ruling on Uber’s stock price?

    -After the Supreme Court’s ruling, Uber’s stock price reportedly dropped, and it was estimated that the company lost around $2 billion in market value due to concerns over the financial impact of having to comply with worker regulations.

  • Who were the key individuals involved in the Uber case?

    -The key individuals included the lead claimants, James Farrar and Yaseen Aslam, and the legal team led by Jason Galbraith Martin QC, along with junior counsel Shirin O'Meary, and Paul Jennings and Rachel Madison from Bates Wells Braithwaite.

Outlines

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⚖️ Supreme Court Decision on Uber Drivers' Employment Status

The UK Supreme Court ruled that Uber drivers are classified as workers, not self-employed contractors, a decision that significantly affects their employment rights. Jason Galbraith Martin QC, the barrister representing the claimants, explains that this precedent will influence other cases and obligate Uber to comply with minimum wage and holiday pay laws. While Uber claims the ruling only applies to a small number of drivers from 2016, Martin clarifies that any driver bringing a similar case would likely receive the same outcome.

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💼 Potential Business Impact on Uber and Gig Economy

The court's decision could have substantial financial implications for Uber, as it may need to adjust its business model by either absorbing the costs of paying drivers according to legal standards or passing those costs onto consumers. The discussion also touches on the broader gig economy and how drivers using multiple apps at once might affect legal interpretations of their employment status, though the court has not yet ruled definitively on this point.

👩‍⚖️ Team Effort Behind the Legal Battle

Jason Galbraith Martin QC emphasizes the collaborative effort behind the Uber case, highlighting the contributions of junior counsel and other legal team members. The legal team worked pro bono, driven by a belief in the principle at stake. Martin also commends the lead claimants, James Farrar and Yaseen Aslam, for their courage in bringing the case forward, as many workers fear the complexity, cost, or repercussions of standing up for their rights.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Employment Law

Employment law refers to the legal framework governing the relationship between employers and employees, covering rights such as wages, working hours, and conditions. In the script, this term is central as it explores how different classifications (employee, worker, contractor) impact the legal rights of Uber drivers.

💡Supreme Court

The Supreme Court is the highest judicial authority in the UK, whose decisions set legal precedents. In the video, it ruled that Uber drivers are classified as 'workers,' not self-employed contractors, significantly impacting their employment rights.

💡Workers

Workers, as defined in UK law, have fewer rights than employees but are still entitled to certain protections such as the minimum wage and holiday pay. The Supreme Court decision classified Uber drivers as workers, extending these protections to them.

💡Self-employed Contractor

A self-employed contractor is an individual who works independently, not bound by employment protections such as holiday pay or minimum wage. Uber had argued its drivers were self-employed, which the court rejected, highlighting the core dispute in the case.

💡Precedent

A precedent is a legal principle established in a previous court ruling that must be followed in future similar cases. The Supreme Court's decision serves as a precedent, meaning other Uber drivers can use it to claim their rights in employment tribunals.

💡Minimum Wage

The minimum wage is the legal minimum hourly pay an employer must offer a worker. The ruling obliges Uber to ensure its drivers receive at least the national minimum wage, raising concerns about Uber's business model.

💡Gig Economy

The gig economy refers to a labor market characterized by short-term contracts or freelance work, as opposed to permanent jobs. Companies like Uber operate in the gig economy, and the court's ruling challenges the flexibility that companies claim defines this sector.

💡Multi-app

Multi-app refers to the practice where drivers use several gig economy apps simultaneously (e.g., Uber, Deliveroo, Addison Lee). The video mentions that the court did not resolve how this practice affects employment status, but it's a growing trend among gig workers.

💡Pro Bono

Pro bono refers to legal work performed voluntarily and without payment. In the case, Jason Galbraith Martin and his team worked pro bono, driven by a belief in the importance of establishing legal protections for Uber drivers.

💡Claimant

A claimant is an individual who brings a legal case against another party. In the video, James Farrar and Yaseen Aslam were the lead claimants, representing Uber drivers in their case to be classified as workers and secure their employment rights.

Highlights

The Supreme Court in the UK ruled that Uber drivers are classified as workers, not self-employed contractors.

This ruling sets a precedent that will be applied to other similar cases, binding on employment tribunals.

Uber's business model may face challenges as they might have to pay more to drivers to meet minimum wage and other worker protections.

Uber's official response claimed that the ruling only applies to a small number of drivers from 2016.

Despite Uber's statement, it's clear that any other Uber driver bringing a similar claim will likely receive the same outcome.

Uber's share price fell significantly after the Supreme Court ruling, reflecting market concerns over the impact on its business.

The decision could lead to either reduced profits for Uber or increased costs for consumers, as Uber maintains its pricing strategy.

The issue of drivers working for multiple gig economy companies simultaneously remains unresolved by the Supreme Court.

The barrister argues that drivers should be able to work for more than one company at the same time without legal issues.

The case highlighted how gig economy workers might have to bring individual claims to enforce their rights.

A significant part of the legal team worked pro bono, driven by a belief in the principle they were defending.

The case demonstrated the challenges workers face in bringing claims due to the complexity and perceived expense of the legal process.

The Supreme Court's decision is a major victory for gig economy workers seeking recognition of their rights.

The decision may influence other gig economy companies and how they classify their workers.

The barrister praised the lead claimants for their courage in pursuing the case, which benefits other Uber drivers.

Transcripts

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a crucial issue in employment law

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is whether you're an employee a worker

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or a self-employed contractor the answer

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has a massive impact on your employment

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rights

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on friday the supreme court which is the

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highest court in the uk

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gave its decision in the well-known uber

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case

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and ruled that uber drivers are

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classified as workers

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and not self-employed individuals as

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uber had been arguing

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i'm joined now by jason galbraith martin

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qc the barrister who successfully

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represented

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the lead claimants in the uber case uh

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jason how does

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how does the supreme court's decision

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benefit uber drivers good evening

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evening daniel uh nice to talk to you

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thanks for having me on the show

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um so in in a very narrow sense it

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benefits those people that were

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claimants in the case so my clients

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uh james farrar yes in islam but as you

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know

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and you just mentioned supreme court

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being the highest court in the land

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it sets a precedent and that precedent

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means what the

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court had to say in that case will be

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applied

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in other cases and it will be binding on

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employment tribunals

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so that if any other uber driver brings

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a similar claim

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working time claim claim for pay uh

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holiday pay or for

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national minimum wage um the decision of

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the supreme court will effectively

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determine the outcome

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in that employment tribunal case an

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interesting question

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actually is whether uber will will wait

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to be sued by uber drivers

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or whether it will apply the supreme

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court's decision to its drivers

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generally

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and the indications are at the moment

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from what they've said that they're

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they might not apply automatically and

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other uber drivers may have to think

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about bringing a claim but that's not

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clear yet

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that'll play out over the next few weeks

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well the official response that i've

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heard from uber

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uh in their press releases is that the

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supreme court decision only applies to a

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small number of drivers from 2016.

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is that right yeah well it technically

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it does because it it's a judgment

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in the case that was brought by those

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drivers in 2016.

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so technically they're right to say that

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but i'm very clear

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any other uber driver who brings a claim

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relying on virtually the same

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facts will get the same outcome so what

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impact do you think the case has on

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uber's business model going forward

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interesting um someone pointed out to me

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that on friday when the judgment came

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out the share price of uber

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fell by a certain percentage and they'd

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calculated that it was about two billion

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dollars

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um in terms of its impact obviously if

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uber now

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has to pay more money to its drivers in

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order to meet minimum wage legislation

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and

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to give them the protection so for

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example the working time rigs give them

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it's going to cost you more money that's

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either going to eat into its profits or

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that cost is going to be passed along to

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the consumer

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um obviously it sells itself on being

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a cheap mode of private transport

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cheaper than they say for example black

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cabs they'll want to keep it that way in

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order to maintain their market share

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they'll need to

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to maintain a price differential um

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which means in theory that will come out

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of their profits but

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um we'll see might the position be

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different jason gabriel martin for

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drivers who work for multiple

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gig economy businesses simultaneously so

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one day they work for uber

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the next day they work for deliveroo the

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day after that they work for addison lee

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so um probably not in the in that exact

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example not the day after they might

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work for addison lee a really

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interesting question that arose during

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the course of the case

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was what happens where someone has

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multiple apps on not one day after the

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other but at the same time

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they're sitting in their cab and they've

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got the captain app on and the addison

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leon

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and they've got uber on and they accept

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a ride from whichever company

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sends them sends them the first chip

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request

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the court didn't have to finally resolve

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that problem

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partly because back in 2016 when this

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case started

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there weren't so many apps around and

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neither of my clients did

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multi-app as it's known they essentially

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just worked for uber things have moved

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on

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and now as i understand it people are

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able to have more than one app on at the

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same

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time so the supreme court hasn't finally

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resolved that issue

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i personally don't think it's a problem

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i really don't

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i think you can have more than one boss

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you can you can work for

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lbc at night and be a barrister during

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the day daniel as you well know

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um so you can have more than one job and

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and you can have more than one employer

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so why can't drivers be employed by

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addison lee and uber

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you were the person at the front um

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jason arguing the case before seven

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supreme court judges but presumably

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there was a big team

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working with you it was a huge team um

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so i absolutely couldn't have done it

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without junior council shirin o'meary

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who worked very closely with me

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um paul jennings and rachel madison in

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particular at bates wells and

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braithwaite

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was sort of the legal team i'm not sure

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if it's widely known we were all working

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pro bono essentially that means we were

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doing it for free

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we were doing that because we believed

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in the principle that we were

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establishing

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all the way up from from the employment

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tribunal up to the supreme court

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and of course it's down to the drivers

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themselves

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people often struggle to to bring claims

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either because

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the law's complicated it's perceived as

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being very expensive

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or they're just very worried about about

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the consequences if they put their head

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above the parapet if they're the lead

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claimant

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so so to james and yasin um a big shout

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to them for for having the courage to

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put themselves forward on behalf of

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other uber drivers

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that was jason galbraith martin qc the

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barrister at cloisters who represented

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the drivers

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in the uber case

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